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utilitycaster · 3 years

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Thats interesting to read. Idk to me Vax is always a big sulking asshole and i really didnt like how he treated Vex and Keyleth sometimes and kind is definitely not a word id use for him. I admit that Liam's play style isnt really my thing and im not a fan of either of his pcs and maybe my annoyance at the fans of both Vax and Caleb makes me judge them more harshly than others. But the next time i rewatch i'll look for what you're saying. I still dont think i would describe him as kind though.

Yeah...I've talked about this before and I'm not maintagging this because I'm happy to field good-faith questions but I'm not interested in hardcore discourse but while I do think Liam has this weird polarized following that is unhinged on both ends, and while I also think it's totally valid to have negative feelings about something because the fans are very annoying, one still must actually look at canon and be like "okay I don't like this but is it true".

There are definitely choices made by Vax I don't love, but I really can't think of a time when he treated Vex or Keyleth unkindly. The harshest moment I can think of with Vex is him telling her he doesn't feel comfortable talking about Keyleth with her, and she was being pretty aggressive to start with. For that matter, even when I haven't liked Liam's acting or playstyle choices I've generally found him to be a pretty strong advocate for the women of the cast; one thing that always stands out to me is Liam and Sam telling anyone who was attempting to interrupt the cupcake scene that there was literally no reason to do so and to let Laura continue finishing out what she was trying to do, or Liam using Lieve'tel to explicitly state in-game that Vex and Keyleth would live full lives without Vax there, or making a concerted effort to have scenes with Ashley to get her back into the swing of things and incorporate Yasha into the group.

I mean I think I've been particularly vocal about how badly the fandom treated Jester w/r/t Caleb, and I feel the same thing happened with Vex and Keyleth w/r/t Vax, but I think I've also been equally vocal that it was purely within the fandom and never in canon (and, indeed comes from the same exact place of letting love of a character lead them away from the literal events).

Basically I find myself in an awkward middle regarding something that as said is really polarized, where I'm like "people who loudly proclaim how they are sobbing each time Vax's name is mentioned and argue that the Mighty Nein should have abandoned all their individual goals and desires to focus solely on Caleb can fuck off, but also people who ignore the entirety of canon because they've decided to direct their bile towards just some guy from New Jersey instead of at a Republican politician or something can fuck off". And in the end, it's two loud tiny minorities and a lot of people who I suspect feel roughly as I do but the internet does not reward boring measured opinions and also a lot of people understandably do not have my personality trait of "well someone's gotta hit the wasp's nest with a bat."

tl;dr it's totally cool if an actor's style does not work for you and to be irritated at segments of the fandom to the point that it shifts your opinions on characters/ships/whatever, but I do feel it's absolutely crucial to step back and look at what actually happened on the show, otherwise one runs the risk of becoming only against things rather than enjoying one's self.

#someone's gotta hit the wasp's net with a bat #that's going to be my discourse tag i think

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