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#and i'm like. shit take and you are spreading this nonsense everywhere including shitting on my faves w your bad takes
lord-squiggletits · 9 months
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Something I keep seeing when I speak to others about MTMTE Megatron is basically the idea that he's going on a personal journey to become a better person, that the point isn't for him to be "redeemed" but for him to get a chance to do good and die as a person he can live with again. That MTMTE presents a unique take on this because being away from Cybertron gives Megatron a chance to be a person rather than a political figure and this is how it gives him more depth as a character. Or just generally pointing out in a narrative sense that Megatron being in MTMTE limits his story options so of course his story is going to be more focused on a personal journey than on politics of him dealing with the Decepticons/Earth/etc and that just because JRO made a choice to take that path with Megatron doesn't mean that it's inherently bad.
And I'm just, mmm like I understand all of those points and acknowledge that they all contributed to the MTMTE Megatron we got. I even think that without JRO writing Megatron we wouldn't have had his lore be as fleshed out and 3D as it ended up becoming.
(Post starts out as a sort of meta analysis or at least me giving a reasoned explanation for my interpretation of the story, ends up being petty bitching in the last 1-2 paragraphs)
I just..... I just personally don't agree with the "he's becoming a better person by getting a chance to relax and experience happiness and trust after a life of trauma" as being the best choice for his character? Because the problem is that maybe if he were a random Decepticon foot soldier that would be appropriate, but he was literally the leader of the Decepticons that made them Like That and has political/cultural/societal responsibility for why things are the way they are? To be completely frank, I don't care about him going on a personal journey for self-peace, I think that he should become a better person by helping to un-fuck all the things he actually screwed up???
Like idc about the debate of whether he can be "redeemed" or if he should've been killed/imprisoned/etc at the ending. It just comes down to the fact that for me personally, I feel that since Megatron's wrongdoings were at a social level, him "being a better person" would've been better shown by him engaging with those people who he wronged instead of just going on a frigging personal journey for his legacy and self-peace???
Especially since in other series (exRID, possibly Windblade) we literally got plots like "the neutrals hate Autobots but they hate Decepticons even more" and "the Decepticons have been taken over by Galvatron and are now invading earth 2 electric boogaloo" and "yeah the Decepticons are literally living in slums because people hate them so much and won't give them any work." It just leaves me wondering why in the hell people are like, "oh Megatron got to be happy and have a chance to be a normal person." I don't want him to be normal! I want him to repay his debts to the people he actually wronged! Like if you want to cast Megatron as a hero of the people so badly (which so many of his stans do as if he actually cared about the Cons) then how do you reconcile the fact that Megatron just fucked off and left the Decepticons to suffer on Cybertron? Including some of them attacking during his trial and getting killed and Megatron is basically like "sorry, I'm not coming with you and this isn't going to work." And then Megatron complains about "toxic Decepticon loyalty" as if he didn't literally make them that way? Like I get that MTMTE Megatron is still an asshole but if you've read something besides MTMTE and know what the Decepticons are going through, it just ends up being really grating.
I just don't see Megatron as being a particularly good hero or having a particularly fulfilling story if he's completely isolated from all the bad things he did on Cybertron/the way the Decepticons are suffering until LL#25 where it's like "ah damn I'm going to trial now, well this is what I deserve so it's fine." Why could we not have seen something like Megatron trying to deradicalize the Decepticons or change their public image so they could integrate into normal Cybertron again? They were living in SLUMS and getting gunned down by Starscream's badgeless enforcers!
The best we got was the Functionist Universe but like.... I'm sorry, but JRO inventing a whole alternate universe for Megatron to save doesn't do jack shit to save or fix the people he left behind in this one. It was especially grating to read because JRO literally wrote in someone saying "you saved billions of lives from the Functionists" as if he was trying really hard to show how good Megatron is because he saved people (and also if not for Megatron existing Cybertron would be even worse and half of your faves would be enslaved or dead, also the Functionist Council was going to genocide organics too so technically they're WORSE than Megatron since they hate organics AND want to enslave their own race).
I read Barber's, JRO's, and MScott's series concurrently using the omnibus + a release order list for phase 3, and after all that I'm kind of puzzled why the fandom seems to ardently love MTMTE Megatron and think he's so well written but then also shit on Optimus for things that he did during the same points in the story? Because, and I know this is a blazing hot take, I honestly think that Optimus makes a better hero of his story than Megatron does for his, and Optimus' personal journey combines his personal and political identities into a narrative that's a lot more gruelling and questioning of his goodness than we got for Megatron in MTMTE. Which is fucking saying something considering Megatron committed crimes against sapient species and Optimus is the guy who tried to stop him from doing that and has always been pro-equal rights for all beings. But people pretty much just cherrypick things like Optimus annexing Earth or beating up Prowl and go "he's bad" and I'm like no??? IDW OP isn't a bad person or a bad character??? It's just that unlike MTMTE Megatron he's placed in a narrative that actually suits the nature of his actions and has themes that match. To the point that IMO sometimes Barber's narrative shits on Optimus excessively or paints him mainly in the most unflattering ways.
But like. It's just funny to me because Optimus spent his entire part of the story doing things like trying to stop Earth from being invaded/colonized yet again. Grappling with his identity as Prime and dealing with the fact that people literally worship him vs. the fact that his upbringing made him see the Primacy as nothing more than a facade of authority/leadership. Having people get mad at him for prioritizing politics over friendship/relationships with other people. Even getting shit on for being a cop a decent amount so people can STFU about IDW OP being "copaganda" or "not held responsible for his actions". The problems that Optimus dealt with were personal because they had to do with his self-doubt, culpability for the war as a leader of one of the armies, distance from his soldiers, etc. But all of these are also POLITICAL struggles. Because Optimus gave up on the chance to just be a normal person having personal struggles when he chose to become a LEADER, which also means that he's held to extremely high standards that he regularly fails at in the eyes of others.
That's why, to me, MTMTE Megatron falls flat in comparison and really as a "hero" or heel-face character in general? Because he also made a decision to be a leader, and IMO once you do things like become the commander of an army and start your own galactic empire, you lose the right to prioritize your personal problems and instead are obligated by the power you've chosen to wield to focus on your POLITICAL problems. If Megatron's power, influence, and crimes are of a social-political nature, then his heel-face turn arc and ways of showing that he's a better person/helping to heal what little damage he possibly can should have been shown with actions that help on a social-political LEVEL. That's why I'm not particularly impressed with his character arc and feel as if it was overhyped by other people in this fandom: sure, the extra character depth and emotion is nice, but I'm not really going to see him as extraordinary or even particularly good when the extent of him "becoming a better person" happens entirely on a random road trip to fuck-off nowhere. Especially not when the ending of LL tried to sell me a "they lived happily ever after" ending while basically leaving the freaking MUTINY as just Rodimus going "oh it's okay you're forgiven, we're all together again" and I guess everyone was fine with Megatron and wanted to spend an eternity on a ship with him just because Getaway died.
This is why I like (the concept/themes of) exRID/OP and the way Optimus' character arc was handled a lot more. Because for Optimus, the personal and the political were as one. He was held accountable for his actions towards others and the disruptive effects they had on a social level, sometimes to a ridiculous extent (the fucking "oh Megatron is an Autobot so now that makes the Autobots colonizers" plot and that stupid colonist screaming about how Optimus is "literally fascist" my beloathed). Even his very personal issues like his relationship with Zeta were still cast in a wider lens of, yeah this is a personal struggle that Orion faced, but he was still part of a Society TM and his actions were sometimes ill-informed or harmful to others. Even if I had a lot of problems with the way Optimus' story was written by Barber (plot holes, little meaningful character interaction, forced conflicts), at least the BASELINE of it was way better than Megatron's in MTMTE. Especially since Optimus' struggle was explictly about things like struggling with responsibility and how he feels he HAS to intervene in political affairs because has to save people/make up for his past mistakes. That's something that a good leader/good person actually does, so I found Optimus to be a better hero (even if his actions weren't all "good") because he was trying to be a good person by actually getting involved with Cybertron/Earth and subjecting himself to something he hates (leadership, war) and dealing with a shitload of criticism instead of just going on a fuckin "personal journey" lksdlkfsd.
Which just makes me extra salty that people hold up MTMTE Megatron as the pinnacle of Megatrons and literally the best Transformers writing evar! while turning up their nose and ignoring or outright despising IDW Optimus. Like okay. I guess since Megatron got handled with silk gloves on while Optimus got put through the wringer of being shit on by every other person in the story, it's easier for you to pretend that Megatron is a poor uwu boy who just needs friendship and love while Optimus is literally the worst bastard to ever exist. Or maybe it's just that since Optimus' story involves him sometimes fucking up, being criticized, or making things worse, that makes him morally bad. As opposed to Megatron who disrupted a lot of other characters' stories in MTMTE, had to have an entire alternate universe invented so that he could "save lives," and got to sail off on a quantum Lost Light happily ever after, so since he's happy and the story says he saved people that means he's a good hero.
#squiggposting#it started out sort of analytical but ended up bitchy#i also feel like for some reason my understanding of what a redemption arc is is different from others?#when i talk to people about it they keep saying 'well M can't make up for what he did'#and i'm like. no that's not what i mean by redemption arc#to me redemption arc literally just means 'a character goes from bad to good over the course of a story'#whether they're forgiven or if they can 'make up for it' objectively is irrelevant like#redemption arc is literally a common label used for the general trope so idk where this confusion is coming from?#also hot take when i say a character should be redeemed i'm literally not talking about wether they're forgiven or pardoned in universe#i just mean. as a reader. do i read their story arc and see them go from bad to good and progress in meaningful ways#do they do something. anything. to address or apologize or fix what they did#is there some sort of symbolic or literal sacrifice or act of service or any Good Thing even if it's only one single moment#then to me they've been redeemed in a narrative sense. it has nothing to do with whether they can literally compensate for hteir crimes#anyways. the tldr of this is that i don't hate mt/mte at all and i also don't hate idw M. i love them in fact#it's just i feel like i was severely let down by how much this fandom hyped and continues to hype mt/mte meg#(peg/gy the pirate spongebob meme voice) that's it? that's the M redemption arc?#that's just a guy going on a space road trip and being emo#mfs tried to tell me it was one of the best tf stories ever written and i'm like. yeah thanks but no#worse still ppl came out of m/tmte going 'actually M was right about everything'#and i'm like. shit take and you are spreading this nonsense everywhere including shitting on my faves w your bad takes#mfs wanna call M a hero of the ppl who at least cared about the cons when he literally left them for broke on cybertron#i don't think idw M had a good heel-face turn arc bc he didn't really like do anything meaningful in the wider scope of things#what if idw M achieved inner peace by protecting the cons and making sure they had rights post war. how about that#i mean for various reasons the story would've been more complicated than that due to editorial and company mandate bullshit#i just feel as if talking about the story narrative itself IDW M's redemption arc is far from remarkable#except for the fact that JRO dared to do it at all perhaps#(vine voice) that's my OPINION!!!!!
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benito-cereno · 7 years
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Hey, Benito! If I remember correctly, you live in Lexington, right? I'm moving there in a couple of months and I was wondering if you had any Secret Insider Tips I could have. (Places to go, places to not to go, any local events or festivals to not miss) I live in East Tennessee now, so it shouldn't be too different from what I'm accustomed to. Anyway, any advice you have would be greatly appreciated. PS; the pooping log comic you did with Nedroid is a Christmas classic.
What’s up my dude
I do indeed live in the greatest city on Earth. This city is full of rad people and dope things to do and I hope you will love it as much as I do (impossible).
I actually put together a Google Map for friends of mine who were coming to visit for the Lexington Comic Con. Maybe you will find it useful. It is not exhaustive, and really shows my personal priorities (food, comics, books, music, movies, public art), but it should give you a bit of a place to start.
If you’re looking for somewhere to buy comics, go either to Collectibles Etc or A+ Comics. There are other options, but these are the two best ones.
Shop at the Kentucky Fun Mall (either online or at their brick and mortar location on Brian Ave) and load up on sweet Kentucky gear. Real Kentuckians love our commonwealth and are not shy about showing it.
You should bookmark New Circle Circular or like their page on Facebook. It’s The Onion, but for Lexington. It’ll take a second to get a lot of the jokes, but a) when you do, it’s fucking hilarious, and b) it helps you get a taste for the city.
Don’t be afraid to go to local events. There is always rad shit happening, especially downtown. There was just a barbecue festival there, Pride is coming up, Fourth of July parade, etc. If you hang out in front of the courthouse long enough, someone will eventually set up a kettle corn stand and some kind of event, parade, or demonstration will start up any second. If you can only make it to one thing, DO NOT MISS the Thriller parade, where thousands of zombies recreate the classic music video all the way down Main Street. Lexington has the largest parade of this type in the world. (It’s at Halloween, naturally.)
Find out where the March Madness Marching Band is performing and go there. That’s where the party is at.
Look into the local music scene. There’s lots of cool stuff. Go see shows at Cosmic Charlie’s, The Burl, The Green Lantern, Al’s Bar, Broomwagon, etc. My favorite local band is Ford Theatre Reunion, but your tastes may vary. Maybe you’d like Big Fresh or Damned African Descendants or Non-Compliant or Them God Damn Bangs?
Hopping districts include North Lime, the Distillery District, and National Ave. Big shopping areas include Nicholasville Road and Hamburg. There is a new complex of shops and restaurants called The Summit at Fritz Farm. It is overall pretty bougie, but there’s a Shake Shack in it and my dude Dan Wu is about to open a ramen spot there.
I apologize in advance about the huge pit in the middle of our city. We all hate it, too. It’s been there a long time, with no end in sight. It’s some fucking capitalist nonsense.
If you look at my Google map and look at the murals layer, that will show you the various works of public art created as part of our annual PRHBTN festival, where muralists from around the world come and paint cool things to beautify the city. If you just go from mural to mural, you will see a lot of cool spots in some of the most vibrant areas of the city.
If you drink soda, start drinking Ale-8 as soon as you get here. It is delicious and will help you blend in. A cocktail made from Ale-8 and bourbon is called either a Kentucky Gentleman or a Kentucky Motherfucker, depending on who you ask.
Similarly, if you do dairy, look into getting some beer cheese when you get here. Make sure it’s from somewhere local. Dad’s Favorites would be fine to start. [edit: I have been corrected. Dad’s makes lots of cheese spreads, but none of them are actually beer cheese. You could buy some good beer cheese at the deli at the Save A Lot on Southland Drive. It’s good, and you can also get the best fried chicken in town while you’re there.] Lots of places will have it. Real Kentucky beer cheese is not hot queso made with beer like some chain restaurants have started selling. Real beer cheese is served cold and has a similar consistency to whipped cream cheese.
See a movie at the Kentucky Theater. See a midnight movie, or one of the summer movie classics, if you’re here in time.
If you like art, check out the Gallery Hop schedule to get a taste of the local art scene. There are free snacks everywhere at these things, btw.
See a play at Summerfest.
Go see a Legends game, even if baseball isn’t your thing. It’s pretty fun.
Go to Keeneland, the best horse track in the world (Churchill Downs is overrated; don’t @ me).
We got parks everywhere! Go see the Horse Park! Bike the Legacy Trail! Go to the Ashland estate and pay homage to Henry Clay, the Great Compromiser!
Watch WKYT, that’s the best for local news. Listen to WRFL.
Buy flowers at Michler’s, get your hair cut at Fleet Street, buy books at Joseph-Beth, and you might as well get the Rod Hatfield Chevrolet jingle stuck in your head now. And you might as well get into UK basketball, because you can’t escape it and there’s actually a pretty good sense of civic pride that comes along with it. If, coming from east TN, you are a UT fan, dump all your orange shit in the trash where it belongs. ;)
All right, that should be enough to get you started, I think! Feel free to hit me up at any time if you have any other questions.
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