#and hardcore j0ppers are cute when they say how dare you base your opinion of hopper on s3 that's like three days in his entire life WELL

[maddy-ferguson]

i don't like j0pper either but when people say joyce should've stayed with bob they always lose me because i have a hard time believing she even liked the man

#like hardcore twitter j0ppers have a point i fear she wasn't amused by his antics #and narratively he's very much her el and her steve the normal she can't go back to after the upside down stuff (like him wanting them to #move to maine) #something else about joyce and hopper. when someone said i don't think hopper's homophobic for saying like is he in s1 (i don't think he #would be based on that alone like it's not a convincing argument to me at all) someone else said you're crazy to think joyce would get #with a man who could be homophobic she would never do that to will when like. wasn't murray's whole thing in s3 that joyce didn't #like that hopper was a brute but that she also kinda liked it. now why they would choose to highlight that instead of continuing on the #path of s1-s2 j0pper idk but just. it's funny that they'd immediately go joyce would never do that to will when like. yeah. #i do think bob was the better choice...for will's stepdad lol. for joyce idk. #for jonathan...no idea #and hardcore j0ppers are cute when they say how dare you base your opinion of hopper on s3 that's like three days in his entire life WELL #we only spend one week a year with these characters blame the duffers for giving us this side of hopper and for leaving us with that for 3 #years. but i can also find stuff i don't like about him in other seasons so we're fine #and like i say: brf slt