#Like fuck me! I've got Monarda sp. growing absolutely apeshit in my garden right now!

[miraphoenix]

This is such a weird gripe, but I hate posts like this where there's some (invariably unsourced) claim that a given list of plants is invasive across a wide geographic area.

Because yes, sure, the majority of those plants are in fact invasive across the USA. English ivy is a scourge in my area, and knotweed is worse.

But Concord grape? Is a North American east coast native cultivar; it's one of the many cultivars of Vitis labrusca. If you're east of the Mississippi, and you've got grapevines up your trees, up your shed? There's about a 95% chance that's a native species! It's aggressive as all fuck (source: I have pulled 45ft of V. labrusca out of trees before), but aggressive growth doesn't make something invasive!

So like. If the screenshotted person's in the west coast? Sure, the claim that everything there is invasive has more ground. But calling V. labrusca invasive across the whole USA when that's the native fucking grape you're talking about makes me irrationally pissed off.

#phoenix sounds #Something being vigorous and aggressive doesn't make it invasive! Holy shit! #V. labrusca grows like the dickens east of the Mississippi because it is supposed to be here! Holy fucking shit! #Like fuck me! I've got Monarda sp. growing absolutely apeshit in my garden right now! #That I can't see the soil doesn't make it invasive though because I'm in the USA and there are minimum 3 species of it native to my area! #It's growing abundantly because it's literally supposed to be here! #And yeah I do have an ongoing job of making sure the V. labrusca vines don't pull the screens off my house! #But holy shit! Cutting vines back and restructuring them is how you generally work with grapes! #Just because it's vigorous as fuck here doesn't make it invasive! It definitionally cannot be invasive in half the fucking USA! Fuck!