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#In book 4 of TBC they say that it was all Ash all along and that's what they've stuck with into ASC
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As a big sibling with a lil sib with epilepsy, when they read TBC they Honestly thought if they got struck with lightning reciting the lord's prayer they'd be cured like Shadowsight is from their epilepsy. I had a discussion with them on how that's not how it works, but ge was so upset they took it away from Shadowsight that he hasn't picked the books back up and has stated that 'he hopes Ashfur wins and starts a new religion.,'
I do not even know how to respond to this besides saying that your little sibling is 100% right to be pissed and I now also hope Ashfur wins and starts a new religion.
#Legit I did not know that Shadow's epilepsy being taken away was so deeply upsetting to SO MANY people#I put it back because putting it back was just the right thing to do (even asked the small following I had at the time what type to portray#(they picked the full tonic-clonics. I would have just done localized or absence if they'd asked me to)#And I did all that research for one single anon who asked for an epilepsy herb guide#So holy cow I didn't know that SO MANY people were snubbed and upset by canon's choice to do that. I'm so sorry#Your little sib isn't missing anything btw they do just go on to confirm that Shadow no longer has seizures.#In book 4 of TBC they say that it was all Ash all along and that's what they've stuck with into ASC#I'm sitting on an essay about... That plot thread. The Ashfur Grooming one#But it's in my drafts because I was a bit afraid of controversy#because i think it was written poorly. Even on top of Book 4's pivot to retcon away Shadow's seizures#I know a lot of people like and are invested in the grooming subplot of TBC. But. I think it was executed AWFULLY#and its really telling that THIS is the plot they tout as grooming *by name* in-canon.--#--and that Shadow has to 'pay' for what he 'did' in some way as if there was ever a choice in the books they wrote--#--But seemingly didn't even seem to clock that what was happening in Spotted's H was grooming until there was intense backlash#and a big part of my contention is the way that Book 4 suddenly tries to retcon that Shadow was groomed from the time he was a child#when it was actually part of book 1 that Shadow was able to personally tell the difference between a real vision and Ash's suggestions--#--BECAUSE he didn't have an accompanying seizure#So like... just know it's also NOT just 'you' if you connected to the character that was epileptic. It WAS there. It was a BIG part of him#Book 4 retconned it so that his epilepsy was part of a long scheme when before that point it was part of him#''ohh ur destiny is to see into the shadows'' BULL SHIT!!#bone babble
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coco-dreamland · 6 years
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Witch’s Heart: Observations and Theories (SPOILERS)
Warning: SPOILERS! Also, super long post.
I just went through a long binge playing Witch’s Heart (and jeez the game is long), and GOD ITS SO ENGROSSING! I couldn’t stop til I finished, and there’s still more to come! One last ‘bonus scenario’, apparently, along with characters’ pasts (though I already have a few theories).
Throughout though, I couldn’t help but wonder about certain things (and can you blame me?! There’s still so much we don’t know!). And notice other things. For simplicity’s sake, I’ll call each scenario from the order they are presented: 1 (Ashe’s), 2 (Wilardo’s), 3 (Sirius’), 4 (Noel’s).
Observations
Continuity
At first, I was under the impression that each ‘To be continued’ at the end of each scenario led to a separate continuity. However, in 4, we learn that they all take place within the same chronology:
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So, it’s entirely possible that the TBC at the end of Ashe’s scenario refers to Wilardo’s scenario, and TBC at the end of Wilardo’s to Sirius’, and so on... Perhaps the last scenario will take place directly after Noel’s scenario? We’ll see! Also, Rouge is the one initiating the timeloops at Noel’s request. Speaking of which, she seems much more helpful (and nicer?) than the other demons who all seem to be out to sabotage Noel (particularly the two haters, and Lime in general). I wonder why?
Death Tallies
Ever notice that regardless of the scenario, who dies and who lives (though Wilardo’s status is debatable) are always the same? In every scenario, both Sirius and Claire die. Ashe, regardless of whether or not he obtains the Witch’s Heart, lives. For Wilardo, it would depend on whether or not his wish is granted (see below for what his wish might be). Even then, he’s never marked dead in the credits. Noel, naturally, never dies.
Misc.
Did ya know Wilardo is actually the shortest (5′6′’, 169cm) guy of ‘em all?? xD Considering the tallest (Noel at 5′11′’, 182cm), he’s practically a chibi! Bwahahahaha! And here I thought he’d be the tall and intimidating kind of guy...
Theories
Bad End: How’d it happen?
If we choose to trade rooms with Ashe, Sirius ends up killing Ashe in Claire’s original room. However, according to Sirius, Ashe attacked him first. At first, I thought that Sirius was simply lying, but what if he’s actually telling the truth? Ashe did attack Sirius for some reason, but why?
If we choose not to trade rooms, we later see Sirius come to Claire’s room to retrieve the diary.
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We can assume in the bad end, Sirius does the same thing as well. Except, he finds Ashe there instead, who attacks him, and Sirius ends up killing him (oh the irony)
In Ashe’s scenario, Ashe does eventually comes to browse the books in Claire’s room. He asks about the space where the diary used to be, but doesn’t make much of a fuss. Nothing notable happens.
As far as I can see, the only difference in Claire’s room is the presence of the diary. In the bad end, Ashe could have read the diary, and more importantly, seen this photo:
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In Ashe’s scenario, we can see that when they are telling ghost stories and Sirius attacks him for insulting Dorothy, Ashe is remarkably spiteful.
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Yes, yes... if you’ve completed the game, we all know he can be quite heartless (particularly in murdering poor Claire), but this is still quite unusual behaviour from him. It feels as if - dare say - he has a grudge against Dorothy. (I wonder if it’s related to his family?)
If he did read the diary, he would have realised that Sirius was related to Dorothy (even if he did not know how). So, when Sirius came in, he attacked him. Out of paranoia, or maybe even revenge, perhaps?
Ashe’s Wish
In the scenarios where Ashe obtains the Witch’s Heart, he never gets his wish. This implies it is a positive wish. It’s not really specified what can be counted as “positive”, but we know from the ending of Ashe’s scenario that bringing someone back to life is positive. And at the end of Noel’s scenario, he does say this:
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And at the end of Wilardo’s scenario, Wilardo finds this photo on Ashe:
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Alright, it might just be a coincidence that all the faces except for Ashe’s are covered by blood. But what if it’s a hint? What if Ashe’s family is actually dead, and his wish is bring them back to life? It’s just too bad that the demons will never grant such a wish.
(Also, are those even his real parents? Ashe and his sister share the same hair color but his parents do not. It’s more clear in the monochrome version:
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...uh, maybe they are adopted?)
Wilardo’s Wish
At the beginning of Wilardo’s route, he mentions being cursed with “a curse worse than death”.
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...You know what that sounds like?  Yeah, Wilardo’s immortal. And we can see that later, when Ashe kills (or tries to) Wilardo. He bashes his head in, shoots him repeatedly... and then he gets up like it’s nothing. Wilardo can’t die, even if he wants to. His wish is to die, and in the endings where he gets the Witch’s Heart, it is granted (wishing for death is definitely negative), as all that’s left is sand:
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...though the sand does make me wonder how long has he been alive. That turning-into-sand kind of thing’s usually only reserved for really, really long lives...
Well, there’s still a lot of stuff I have questions about, and so many more theories! Of course, I’d like to hear ‘em if you have any yourself!
...I admit, where it ended left me quite unsatisfied! Though what left me most unsatisfied is Ashe... Geez! I know lots of people hate on him, but I just can’t, dangit. He’s still my favourite character after Claire. All this theorizing is actually somewhat therapeutic... til the day I can finally write some fanfiction (likely never :c).
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