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It's bayverse!anon again. Again, thank you for the long reply. I've been thinking about opening a tumblr account just to write longer messages to you because I appreciate your insight. I'm not sure if I should though, I only ever look on tumblr for Transformers... But back to the important stuff: if the Allspark animates the metal, then the Cybertronians don't have to or don't reproduce at all. They just need a plate or two of metal and use the Allspark. Part 1/2

Part 2/2: That would explain why they were so desperately looking for it in TF1 - without the Allspark they are doomed. But that can’t be, right? if it was then their extinction would already be a done deal, no matter which side wins. I haven’t seen TF2 and 3 in a while, but I rewatched the 1st one recently and from what I understood they can’t return to their world, because it’s dead(?) but there was no mention of their extinction being a done deal. Mind you, I haven’t read any comics or novels

As far as the lore stands at this time, the Transformers are are only a few more casualties away from being declared extinct.

Think of it like this: if Transformers were placed on the List of Endangered and Threatened Wildlife they would be classified as❛ Threatened ❜—the last stage before a species is declared extinct.

Personally, it always saddens me when the media for some of the TF continuities downplays how desperate their fight is to survive. But before I get to that…

The Tyran series came before Transformers Prime, and TFP took a lot from Tyran and other continuities. It is the flagship media of the Aligned continuity, which was intended to be a better amalgamation of previous continuities than any other. It was intended from the beginning to take influence from its predecessors. But now we can see that Tyran will be taking some cues from TFP.

Going back to the matter of how critically ignored the plot points of how critical endangered the Transformers are in the franchise’s media:

In Transformers Prime they had no AllSpark for the majority of it, and their world was dead. Without both a world and the AllSpark they have no Well, and without a Well they have no new lives. In the Covenant of Primus it is finally clarified that the AllSpark is a sentient singularity that has feelings and intent; it can be sad or please, and it can also pick a side in a war. It is also not an unlimited source of energy. As the Cybertronians began to colonize other worlds they took with them pieces of the AllSpark, carrying it forward like a torch to light their way. With this piece they cyberformed worlds and made miniature Wells so the colonies may begin to have natives of their own. What they did not know was how they were weakening the AllSpark, ultimately diminishing its capacity to flourish in the hard times to follow after the spacebridge network was destroyed all to protect Cybertron from the rust plague that had already taken entire colonies. It was after this time that Cybertron entered the Age of Rust—they were a stagnant population too small to support their planet, and for the so-call good the caste system had metastasized malignancy. When the war reached its zenith and Megatron set his eyes on the AllSpark—it was for no other reason than an intention to force the AllSpark to make entire generations of new Decepticons for his army. The irony is that the last generation the AllSpark made comprised entirely of Autobots. One of those Autobots was Bumblebee, who later played a crucial role in aiding Optimus’ mission to send the AllSpark into deep space. So yeah, the AllSpark may have had something like a swan song towards the end of Cybertron, but it chose its side and the AllSpark chose the Autobots.

I could go on, but my point is how the species has been marching towards its extinction long before Optimus launched the AllSpark into space—which was done in both Tyran && TFP.

We see very few bots joining in on Earth in Tyran. Sir Burton may describe it as a score coming to Earth, but in the grand scheme of population science it is a fragile amount. Every spark matters, which is why Optimus is so worn out by each one. His desperation is growing and his options are shrinking.

Sadly, the writers choose to throw the extinction plot point under the rug until it is a convenient flippant remark. However, Tyran and Aligned are actually both tragedies for the Transformers. In the conclusion of TFP we’re left with the hope that Cybertron may recover and flourish. In Tyran? Nope. Their world is still dead, now conjoined with Earth, and literally falling apart. The sight of the Transformer’s homeworld breaking apart at their tectonic seams, held together by the planetary vines, well it is nothing less than tragic.

So, you’re right: no matter who won the war the species was already doomed. There was a small bit of hope in TF1 that they could defeat Megatron and take the AllSpark back with them. But, buckets are buckets and Megatron didn’t stop long enough to think that maybe this wasn’t a good idea. Optimus’ primary mission in TF1 was not to save his species; he knew they were doomed unless a miracle happened. He did it to protect Earth. This is a case of not allowing the sins of our elders be passed down unto us and now we are damned by their sins. This is the same reason Optimus sacrificed the Omega Lock in Transformers Prime. In both Tyran and TFP, Optimus had to weigh the lives of a small handful of his people against the billions of lives here on Earth.

This is the kind of shit that even Shakespeare would go, ❝ Woah, I think this is a bit much, dude. ❞

Personally, I love exploring their threat of extinction. Obviously I think primarily from the standpoint of Optimus. But I imagine scenarios where he never landed on Cybertron, but continued to float through deep space for hundreds of years later. Found by a spacefaring race Optimus wakes up to a future where he is last Transformer in all the universe.

On Reproduction—

You said, ❛ They just need a plate or two of metal and use the Allspark. ❜

Unfortunately it isn’t that simple. AOE specifies that they have a unique metal that humans stupidly called Transformium. Now, in the previous movies we saw AllSpark radiation zapping our everyday machines and bam, some crazy juicer on the loose firing missiles just because Cybertronians are naturally assholes.

But, we never see anything lasting come out of these bots. We never see them transform into anything else but the original machine they were sparked from. I theorize that without the Transformium they are stuck with only two modes and can never changed like Optimus or the rest. I doubt these bots would be accepted by natural Cybertronians. On the flip-side maybe direct expose to the AllSpark’s radiation transforms metal into Transformium? This is also a possibility.

In TF2 we see the concept of hatchlings that the Decepticons failed to sustain because of a lack of energon. How did they form the hatchlings? We don’t know. We know their natural metal (Transformium) is regenerating. So maybe that same process allows for a hatchling to develop into an adulthood and quite literally grow metal as some form of a biological process. The hatchling plot was dropped quickly and left to only speculation. I wouldn’t guess any of the hatchlings survived into adulthood.

Primus is real because in TLK we got the baby Dinobots. Sadly, with no explaination and left with only speculation. But a primary question is once again: are they made from Transformium or some ‘inferior’ metal?

This line of thought reminds me of the KSI-made Decepticons, which were made from Transformium. The KSI Transformers are not explicitly discussed in TLK, but we know Megatron was original one.

Side note: I think Megatron in TLK got his new body from Quintessa, so this more recent resurrection probably gives him a higher degree of pedigree than he had as one of KSI’s creations.

In the social hierarchy this is a logical order: first natural Transformers born on Cybertron or one of their possible colonies, Earth-born hatchlings (if any survived), followed by the manmade ones, and lastly the ones made from simple machines. So yeah! More bigotry out of the Transformers.

Of course, we could go and argue the question about whether the so-called natural Transformer are natural at all—are they born or are they made? Lockdown and Quintessa and a few things to say on that subject.

SO yeah, it isn’t as simple as taking two pieces of metal. There needs to be circuitry involved, the a specific and rare metal, and I couldn’t begin to fathom the rest from there.

—Hope to hear from you again, soon! ❤︎ Opi

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