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viola-ohanlon · 3 months

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Controversial opinion:

Sex is YA isn't a bad thing.

YA means Young Adult, and as a teenager, it is not for teens. If a teen reads YA, that is their choice, and they should be aware that as the genre is called Young ADULT, it is meant for adults.

#ya #ya genre #young adult #young adult genre #teen reader #reading #reader

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xipe-slayground · 4 months

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Reading about YA author drama on TikTok and Goodreads feels like when I read a forum thread derail about professional wrestling. I'm sort of interested but at the same time I have absolutely no idea what's going on.

#young adult genre #ya fiction #booktok #tiktok #goodreads #I have absolutely no idea what's going on #I think I'm old now

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jinglebellrockstars · 1 year

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dystopian ya novel in the vein of divergent/the hunger games/etc except the hero is a milf

#izzy.txt #young adult genre #writing #idea

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plaguedocboi · 1 year

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I am more and more seeing people call YA a genre and I think we really gotta stop that. It’s an age range and the books marketed to that age range include a huge amount of subjects that are wildly different from each other. I get that 15-20 year olds are on booktok and instagram and are getting flooded with shallow badly-written romance novels set in a vaguely dystopian society that’s based entirely in Aesthetics and clear-cut morality but that is not the only type of books marketed to young adults. Lumping everything that’s for teenagers into a genre that you believe is The Decline of Literature is perhaps not good for anyone.

#like the hunger games is nothing like the fault in our stars despite both being for young adults #we gotta start separating things into genres that make sense again please

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haveyoureadthispoll · 2 months

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When fifteen-year-old Clary Fray heads out to the Pandemonium Club in New York City, she hardly expects to witness a murder― much less a murder committed by three teenagers covered with strange tattoos and brandishing bizarre weapons. Then the body disappears into thin air. It's hard to call the police when the murderers are invisible to everyone else and when there is nothing―not even a smear of blood―to show that a boy has died. Or was he a boy? This is Clary's first meeting with the Shadowhunters, warriors dedicated to ridding the earth of demons. It's also her first encounter with Jace, a Shadowhunter who looks a little like an angel and acts a lot like a jerk. Within twenty-four hours Clary is pulled into Jace's world with a vengeance when her mother disappears and Clary herself is attacked by a demon. But why would demons be interested in ordinary mundanes like Clary and her mother? And how did Clary suddenly get the Sight? The Shadowhunters would like to know...

#book: city of bones #book: the mortal instruments #author: cassandra clare #genre: fantasy #genre: urban fantasy #genre: young adult #year: 2000s

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smute · 7 months

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honestly the problem with booktok (and bookstagram) is not YA lit. it's not about people enjoying books that some might consider "low-brow" or whatever.

imo booktok is the culmination of several problems:

firstly, there's the homogeneity of algorithmic recommendations and the enormous influence those recommendations have on the publishing market. booktok recs tend to be of a very similar style and subject matter. they're easily digestible, easily bingeable titles that arent overly complex. booktok favors stories written by white women, often featuring characters with traumatic backstories and focusing on themes like overcoming adversity and the pursuit of romantic love. they are also usually very anglo-/americentric. none of this is necessarily bad, and none of it is by design, but it's not a coincidence either. it's the result of the constraints of short-form content on the one hand, and on the other, of an algorithm that amplifies, in broad strokes, the preferences of the core demographic of any given group of users.

secondly, it's about the commodification, not of reading, but of being Someone Who Reads Books (TM), which i think is just a particularly obvious symptom of online peer pressure and social-media-driven self-presentation. booktok doesn't encourage you to read, for example, sally rooney. it encourages the cultivation of one's own identity as someone who reads sally rooney. the problem here is not that sally rooney is a shit writer whose work has nothing of note to say. quite the opposite. sally rooney's work is relevant and interesting. in fact, it's being studied by scholars, and even if it wasn't, people can and should be allowed to enjoy some light reading, and yes, even Problematic (TM) fictional characters.

the real problem is the fact that the very nature of how booktok works actively discourages the critical discussion of the stories that it circulates. the problem is not millions of teenagers reading colleen hoover's slop (i love me some slop) – it's millions of teenagers encouraging each other to read and internalize – UNCRITICALLY – hoover's particularly romanticized depiction of abuse. tiktok's algorithm does not foster diversity of opinion. it doesn't foster diversity PERIOD. it doesn't foster slow, in-depth discussion. its only function is *make line go up* – line go up = clicks, views, engagement, money.

due to tiktok's popularity, booktok also has an enormous influence on marketing-related and (apparently, to some extent) editorial decision-making in the publishing industry. this is not just the fault of booktok, goodreads is part of the same problem. i mean, booktok has managed to turn colleen hoover's 'it ends with us' into a bestseller FIVE YEARS after it was originally published. it has also led to publishers dropping authors or DELAYING THE RELEASE of new titles after booktokers flooded the goodreads pages of unpublished books with one star reviews.

as i said, the underlying issue here is not unique to booktok. it's the same homogenization that plagues the movie industry, the tv industry, streaming services, etc. the publishing industry is just particularly vulnerable to such manipulations of public opinion. in the end, tiktok is not a social media app. it's an entertainment app and its content is focused on brevity. the biggest booktokers aren't simply avid readers. they don't post actual reviews of books they enjoyed. they're influencers who receive boxes of books from publishing houses to show off in haul videos like "have you guys heard of squarespace?" and that's it. the level of engagement with the texts themselves is like reading a blurb on the dustjacket, and unfortunately that is reflected in the selection of titles that become popular. if it can't be sold to you in 3 sentences, the algorithm will bury it.

#and that dear children is why we hate booktok #and before you respond: THINK!#is it TRUE? is it HELPFUL? is it INSPIRING? is it HELPFUL? is it KIND?#<- that spells thihk but you know what i mean lmfkxkdkg #again: NOT about young adult fiction #im a staunch defender of the YA genre #a lot of hate towards YA books is just thinly veiled misogyny #this is not about that #this is about tiktok in particular and how it encourages superficial engagement with simple stories #how it *prohibits* deeper engagement with more complex texts #and about the chokehold it has on the book industry #&#oh also #booktok single-handedly destroyed z-lib

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tallymali · 5 months

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i have such a morbid fascination with those weird reddit dudes who rate their attraction to a woman by working out the ratios and proportions of her features. i want to know if it has ever occurred to them that this is not how other people experience attraction

#ik theyre awful misogynists but a part of me really feels bad for them #there’s definitely a chunk of them who do it bc they resent beautiful women #and kinda self-soothe by ‘proving with numbers’ that these women arent ACTUALLY attractive and they dont want them anyway #but i always wonder how many of them truly just dont feel attraction when looking at women #so they use the numbers as some sort of proxy #bc We Live In A Society that kinda tells boys that if ur not pursuing and getting women then ur not a real man or whatever #im not saying theyre right but i can follow the lines of thought of that second genre of guy #where ur pushed the idea of Getting With A Woman so much but you dont actually want to get with a woman #so you end up with resentment towards women #idk.#anyway this all mostly applies to the very young ones #i have little time for grown adults who use society as an excuse to continue making society suck

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writtenroses1813 · 19 days

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Just putting this out here cause I had to explain it to my mom, but here are the types of fiction (sorry if I leave out any)

Urban fantasy aka “I live in a modern society but turns out the creatures of old live in the forest” Ex: The Raven Boys by Maggie Stiefvater

Paranormal (Romance) aka “My sexy neighbor is secretly a werewolf/vampire and I’m a human teenage girl” Ex: Twilight by Stephanie Meyer

Epic Fantasy aka “This is a crazy quest isn’t it my dear found family” Ex: Six of Crows by Leigh Bardugo

High Fantasy aka “This is a crazy quest of prophecy isn’t it my dear found family oh look a dragon” Ex: The Lord of the Rings by J R R Tolkien

Dystopian aka “This future world is apocalyptic and quite obviously favors the rich” Ex: The Hunger Games by Suzanne Collins

Utopian aka “This future world seems peaceful on the outside but that just covers all the absolutely insane problems only this 16-year-old can fix” Ex: The Lunar Chronicles by Marissa Meyer

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comradekatara · 27 days

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sorry this is not atla related, but have you ever read animorphs? i think you might enjoy it, it also has themes of children trying to navigate war on a huge scale and the ways they have to change themselves (and each other) to cope and hopefully change things. which is not to say it doesn’t have its issues obviously lol it was very much written in the 90s but it’s full of deeply compelling characters and moral issues and such

it's funny that you say that because my friend once spent upwards of 3 hours explaining the plot of animorphs to me as he remembered it from his childhood. so no, i have not actually read those books (i didn't really read children's books as a child, which i know is ironic coming a blog dedicated to a nickelodeon cartoon) but i basically feel like i have. this friend has since watched atla (i mentioned him here) and we've also talked about it at length (for at least a combined total of 3 hours, but probably far more); i definitely remember asking him at some point which series he preferred, and he said atla without a shadow of a doubt lmfao. but he's also the most sokkacoded person i've ever met in my life, so i think he might be biased.

#garagevermin #asks #by sokkacoded i mean that purely as a compliment btw #like if sokka was a well-adjusted mentally stable human being (an oxymoron i know)#anyway. that's my only real knowledge of animorphs #and no i don't plan on reading it #i generally don't really enjoy reading young adult genre fiction #the atla novels are an exception simply because katara irrevocably altered the chemicals in my brain as a child #but mostly i read like. dostoevsky.

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im-goin-mad · 11 months

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what business did like 12 y/o me have reading a kinky alice in wonderland au

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hsandersen · 1 month

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#fantasy books #booktok #fantasybooktok #fantasy #booksbooksbooks #bookaholic #bookstagram #new books #book quotes #monsters #love triangle #book genres #young adult #young author #new author #ya books #indie books

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taylorsabrina · 8 months

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swiftie and carpenter friends, what books are you reaading????

#*carly chats #taylor swift #sabrina carpenter #book recommendations #i'm always looking for something new to add to my library 🥰#i'll read anything from self help/fantasy/period pieces/young adult/romance/mystery/smut #the one genre i'm really picky about is biography's and memoirs #can't get into those really #and don't you dare recommend me anything collen hoover or any tiktok book/author #i will never read icebreaker or it ends with us or book lovers or literally anything ever

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girlbob-boypants · 5 months

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I feel like "fantasy that isn't YA and isn't straight" is a really fucking niche genre but that might just be my perception as someone who doesn't read nearly as much as she used to in ye olden times (middle school)

#girlbob.txt #have i made this post before? probably #it may also have to do with how uhhhh #Young (TM) the booktok genres usually are even when they're for adults #or perhaps i am simply projecting my 'i miss reading books' feelings onto the world who knows i sure don't

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maddie-grove · 1 year

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I think that YA has ironically become more infantile (on average) as it’s become more popular with adults. And I think it’s because adult YA readers (subconsciously or not) generally expect YA to be less challenging than books for adults (as in easier to read stylistically, but also simpler thematically and light on sexual or upsetting content), while the target audience expects YA to be specifically interesting to young adults (which largely translates to having young adult protagonists whose experiences are taken seriously, and without the ironic or nostalgic or therapeutic distance of an adult perspective).

#I mean yeah ya’s usually easier to read #but if you’re a young adult who reads a lot #you’re probably perfectly capable of reading and enjoying a lot of genre and literary fiction for adults

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haveyoureadthispoll · 27 days

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Simon Snow is the worst Chosen One who's ever been chosen. That's what his roommate, Baz, says. And Baz might be evil and a vampire and a complete git, but he's probably right. Half the time, Simon can't even make his wand work, and the other half, he starts something on fire. His mentor's avoiding him, his girlfriend broke up with him, and there's a magic-eating monster running around, wearing Simon's face. Baz would be having a field day with all this, if he were here — it's their last year at the Watford School of Magicks, and Simon's infuriating nemesis didn't even bother to show up.

#book: carry on #author: rainbow rowell #genre: young adult #genre: fantasy #genre: romance #genre: lgbt #year: 2010s

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heathercauthor · 22 days

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One of my favourite moments of book 2 ;~;

The series is called Earth Sucks! A queer apocalypse tale similar to TLOU that brings Humans Are Space Orcs to life!

book info:

Mercenary Feng is both the hunter and the hunted, searching for his missing family while hunted by the alien intruders who are trying to get him to stop blowing their shit up.

It's the apocalypse, and Feng has a knack for pissing people off.

Life gets worse when he must befriend one of the alien creatures to survive. She grew up on stories of humans, and Feng’s about to upend everything she's ever known—if they don't get each other killed first.

"Readers may appreciate the many twists and betrayals..." —Kirkus Reviews

"Action-packed, fast-paced sci-fi story bursting with psychological games and manipulations..." —Readers' Favorite

If you like the Last Of Us, the 100, or unlikely allies in the slightest, check out Earth Sucks On Amazon, Kobo or Barnes and Noble!

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