#yikes we do not want that no no

[inkskinned]

one of the things that i think we should pay attention to, socially, about the disney v. desantis thing is that it is really highlighting the importance of remembering nuance.

in a purely neutral sense, if you engage in something problematic, that does not mean you are necessarily agreeing with what makes it problematic. and i am worried that we have become... so afraid of any form of nuance.

disney isn't my friend, they're a corporate monopoly that bastardized copyright laws for their own benefit, ruin the environment, and abuse their workers (... and many other things). this isn't a hypothetical for me - i grew up in florida. i also worked for the actual Walt Disney World; like, in the parks. i am keenly aware of the ways they hurt people, because they hurt me. i fully believe that part of the reason florida is so conservative is because it's been an "open secret" for years now that disney lobbies the government to keep minimum wage down, and i know they worked hard to keep the parks unmasked and open during the worst parts of Covid. they purposefully keep their employees in poverty. they are in part responsible for the way the floridian government works.

desantis is still, by a margin that is frankly daunting, way worse. the alternative here isn't just "republicans win", it's actual fascism.

in a case like this, where the alternative is to allow actual fascism into united states legislation - where, if desantis wins, there are huge and legal ramifications - it's tempting to minimize the harm disney is also doing, because... well, it's not fascism. but disney isn't the good guy, either, which means republicans are having a field day asking activists oh, so you think their treatment of their employees is okay?

we have been trained there is a right answer. you're right! you're in the good group, and you're winning at having an opinion.

except i have the Internet Prophecy that in 2-3 months, even left-wing people will be ripping apart activists for having "taken disney's side". aren't i an anti-capitalist? aren't i pro-union? aren't i one of the good ones? removed from context and nuance (that in this particular situation i am forced to side with disney, until an other option reveals itself), my act of being like "i hope they have goofy rip his throat out onstage, shaking his lifeless body like a dog toy" - how quickly does that seem like i actually do support disney?

and what about you! at home, reading this. are you experiencing the Thought Crime of... actually liking some of the things disney has made? your memories of days at the parks, or of good movies, or of your favorite show growing up. maybe you are also evil, if you ever enjoyed anything, ever, at all.

to some degree, the binary idealization/vilification of individual motive and meaning already exists in the desantis case. i have seen people saying not to go to the disney pride events because they're cash grabs (they are). i've seen people saying you have to go because they're a way to protest. there isn't a lot of internet understanding of nuance. instead it's just "good show of support" or "evil bootlicking."

this binary understanding is how you can become radicalized. when we fear nuance and disorder, we're allowing ourselves the safety of assuming that the world must exist in binary - good or bad, problematic or "not" problematic. and unfortunately, bigots want you to see the world in this binary ideal. they want you to get mad at me because "disney is taking a risk for our community but you won't sing their praises" and they want me to get mad at you for not respecting the legit personal trauma that disney forced me through.

in a grander scheme outside of disney: what happens is a horrific splintering within activist groups. we bicker with each other about minimal-harm minimal-impact ideologies, like which depiction of bisexuality is the most-true. we gratuitously analyze the personal lives of activists for any sign they might be "problematic". we get spooked because someone was in a dog collar at pride. we wring our hands about setting an empty shopping mall on fire. we tell each other what words we may identify ourselves by. we get fuckin steven universe disk horse when in reality it is a waste of our collective time.

the bigots want you to spend all your time focusing on how pristine and pretty you and your interests are. they want us at each other's throats instead of hand in hand. they want to say see? nothing is ever fucking good enough for these people.

and they want their followers to think in binary as well - a binary that's much easier to follow. see, in our spaces, we attack each other over "proper" behavior. but in bigoted groups? they attack outwards. they have someone they hate, and it is us. they hate you, specifically, and you are why they have problems - not the other people in their group. and that's a part of how they fucking keep winning.

some of the things that are beloved to you have a backbone in something terrible. the music industry is a wasteland. the publishing industry is a bastion of white supremacy. video games run off of unpaid labor and abuse.

the point of activism was always to bring to light that abuse and try to stop it from happening, not to condemn those who engage in the content that comes from those industries. "there is no ethical consumption under late capitalism" also applies to media. your childhood (and maybe current!) love of the little mermaid isn't something you should now flinch from, worried you'll be a "disney adult". wanting the music industry to change for the better does not require that you reject all popular music until that change occurs. you can acknowledge the harm something might cause - and celebrate the love that it has brought into your life.

we must detach an acknowledgment of nuance from a sense of shame and disgust. we must. punishing individual people for their harmless passions is not doing good work. encouraging more thoughtful, empathetic consumption does not mean people should feel ashamed of their basic human capacities and desires. it should never have even been about the individual when the corporation is so obviously the actual evil. this sense that we must live in shame and dread of our personal nuances - it just makes people bitter and hopeless. do you have any idea how scared i am to post this? to just acknowledge the idea of nuance? that i might like something nuanced, and engage in it joyfully? and, at the same time, that i'm brutally aware of the harm that they're doing?

"so what do i do?" ... well, often there isn't a right answer. i mean in this case, i hope mickey chops off ron's head and then does a little giggle. but truth be told, often our opinions on nuanced subjects will differ. you might be able to engage in things that i can't because the nuance doesn't sit right with me. i might think taylor swift is a great performer and a lot of fun, and you might be like "raquel, the jet fuel emissions". we are both correct; neither of us have any actual sway in this. and i think it's important to remember that - the actual scope of individual responsibility. like, i also love going to the parks. Thunder Mountain is so fun. you (just a person) are not responsible for the harm that Disney (the billion dollar corporation) caused me. i don't know. i think it's possible to both enjoy your memories and interrogate the current state of their employment policies.

there is no right way to interrogate or engage with nuance - i just hope you embrace it readily.

#does this make sense #to do be deleted probably yikes #(takes a swing at a wasp's nest) #like i think ppl have started to just be really quiet when they like something 'problematic' #and im like... u can be like - #girl tswift NEEDS to just TAKE A BUS . LIKE????????????????????? #while also being like. #''she's a lot of fun'' #if ur personal policy is that u don't support her for that reason that's great #but it's like. eating meat??? #like yeah some people won't bc the environment. but the fact i eat meat doesn't mean i hate the earth #like i can say that i think the meat industry is HORRIFIC and also downright cruel to its employees #but like. still enjoy a chicken nugget.... #there are people who choose otherwise. it's okay . we are people. i make like no money. u probably don't either #us fighting about whether or not it's Right To Eat The Chicken Tender just distracts from like. #actually turning your ire on the corporation #i hope it's clear what i'm saying here is like. when we fight each other for Purity Reasons #we are just doing the work of corporations . for free. like they WANT us to be doing this lol #it's the fucking DREAM of the upperclass that now ALL forms of responsibility fall on the individual

[pocketramblr]

What about an AU where Manual replaces Aizawa as the 1-A homeroom teacher?

Oh boy we can fit SO MUCH projection into this one

1- Manual only applied to UA because he was applying a bunch of hero schools, and he didn't think he'd get UA but why not try, at worst it's extra interview practice before he really tries at Ketsubutsu. And then he got only got a job at UA and no other school, somehow. And he can't technically complain because UA pays the best and it's a job he signed up for, but how???

2. He also didn't apply as a homeroom teacher, but they offered it to him anyway and he uh doesn't really say no. He figured he could change positions after a few years already if he wanted to, and planned on it, but then realized he liked this position much better and so kept it instead

3. Actually you know what sure all the projection. His third year he ended up being freshman homeroom team lead, which he's pretty sure isn't supposed to happen- Vlad had more experience but said he wanted a break this year from it and no one else applied so....

4. His third year is also when he gets our beloved class 1A! They do not get expulsion threats, and go to orientation. Then Manual tells them they have an essay due at the end of the week, about why they want to be heroes and what their current plan is, to be completed before any combat training. Several students pitch a fit about writing when they want to learn how to fight, but Manual points out that as part of their training, they'll have to do a lot of unpleasant things. Will they put effort into the record keeping they need to learn as pros if they aren't willing to write a paper? Will they be able to communicate in team exercises if they can't even put what they want as a hero into words? How patient can they be for slow moving cases? The class can see his point even if it's not exciting.

The second day of school, two students hand him papers. Bakugou asks if he can start fight training sooner now since he did the whole dumb essay. Midoriya asks him to look over the first draft if he doesn't mind, because he just had a lot of ideas where to take it and wants it to be really good.

By the start of homeroom the second day, these two are no longer sitting in desks right by each other.

5. On the fourth day of school, while Manual has his class looking over their costumes and getting peer feedback, he realizes that Vlad usually would be sending bragging pictures of his class in rescue training right about now, to see if Manual could get his kids to beat them next week when they went to USJ. He sends a message. It doesn't go through.

He thinks "huh, that's weird" right before robot sentry alarms go off about vines erupting from USJ's roof and throwing students out frantically. Manual grabs the closest non combat adult in the hall to watch his class and runs to help figure out what's going on.

#Manual using his excellent Vibe Check at the start of the school year: yeah ok we are gonna have to do some patience lessons early... #all might needs to figure out how to get his kid to stop breaking his bones... #oh yikes Todoroki....... Nedzu let's get a move on those dorms #but also Manual would not let ANY student within a hundred miles of hosu for internship #especially not iida #only reason he lets Izuku get as close as Torino is if because All Might brought the letter in himself #and he was like 'yes or no. that mentor will help him not break his bones on the quirk i just weirdly feel he has not had long enough' #all might is like 'ah ha what do you mean not had-' #'yes or no stop giving me more info i do not have the clearance for it i do not want the clearance for it' #'... yes?' #'ok fine ' #starredmoth #pocket talks to people #ask game

[pacificgasandelectric]

Current Events in Silm fandom rlly reinforce my feeling that, despite claiming an ethos of acceptance/tolerance of anything that doesn't hurt ppl, a lot of ppl in the section of Silm fandom I frequent do follow a set of socially-agreed-upon mores about what concepts are "not acceptable" to discuss or propose (or the ways in which certain topics must be discussed to be acceptable), that you all seem to have agreed on despite the things those mores restrict not being harmful to anyone.

And when someone does say smth that violates those mores, the response is disproportionate to the amount of harm done (which is typically none, imo). I know it's tempting to say "but we just want people to be comfortable and safe", but treating ppl badly for the sin of sharing thoughts you dislike is NOT the same as preventing people from doing things that are harmful. The former is much more of a harmful behavior than the sharing of the thoughts that sets it off. Fannish etiquette, people: you shouldn’t act like someone’s meta makes them morally suspect just because you disagree with it; save the “this is morally bad” for things that are ACTUALLY harmful. We're all stuck on this website together & if you want to have any sort of community, you need to ACT like you're in a community, and that means letting other people say things you dislike. Block them if you need to! I block people all the time because i know it's better for me AND for them if we can both blog in peace.

I am not particularly comfortable with the young-queer-on-tumblr silm fandom rn due to this tendency to rebuke things that are uncomfortable rather than harmful. Maybe that's fine with you. But if your goal is to make all fans feel comfortable and accepted, you need to actually do that. If your goal is to make people who share your unwritten rules comfortable in your space, you need to admit that, and write those rules down, and curate your space so it follows them.

Edited 8:10am PST to clarify the specifics of the behavior I find concerning.

#mine #if there had been Actual Harm done i'd feel differently #but when ppl are this worked up over 'what if [female character] was Also a bad person in a way that's reprehensible to our current morals' #and start going ‘hm this person is morally suspect for their Taste In Fiction’ im like. yikes! and you do this in the War Crimes Fandom?! #and like listen i Get that esp in this fandom there's a high incidence of like. ppl who are genuinely bigoted and stuff #and it can be stressful to see stuff that reminds you of that bigotry and the way those ppl use the work to justify their own worldview #but that STILL doesn't give anyone the right to police stuff that Isn't Bigoted. that's just not how this works. #and then in terms of 'well it's not policing it's just disagreeing' i have to say. that's where Etiquette comes in and i'm frankly #unhappy & annoyed that so many ppl in my age group seem to care more about being Right than being comfortable to share a fannish space with #but again whatever maybe they don't want me in their space. that's fine! i don't want to be in your space if it doesn't want me. #but i wish they'd fucking ADMIT THAT instead of going 'ooooh we accept everyone' and then turning around #and censuring ppl whose ideas they find icky. you can't have it both ways is all i'm saying. pick one and actually do it. for all our sakes #haha i might regret this tomorrow but i'm sooooo sleep-deprived and so annoyed #sorry to my non-silm followers it's just that i'm right and i should say it

[hailsatanacab]

new chapter new chapter new chapter!!!!! (finally)

#dpxdc #batpham #dp x dc crossover #dc crossover #dcxdp #here we are babeeyyy!!!! birthday update wahey #i'm so tired #let me sleep the covid away i feel like that's all i've been doing and it's barely working #seriously though i've been so eepy this time #anyway!!! enjoy this chapter!!! man i wanna share a choice meme that craftybookworms made for this chap #perhaps i'll post it in the morning #there were so many different versions of this chapter guys #one of them had a very heartfelt apology between danny and damian and it cleared the air and it was lovely #i decided i did not want that to happen #asASKDLJSLGKJ i just typo'd that as happy - i did not want that to be happy - which like. fair. #that's the vibe so far #yikes #you'll be glad to know that i did cut out several more danny damian fights so that's good news! #there'll be more of a united front going forward maybe i promise maybe #we'll see haha #anyway - enjoy the chapter!!! i'm now going to bed #love you all and goodnight!!!!

[visionkept]

If the pyro archon turns out to be fully white, I better not see people mocking those who get angry about it, especially if you are NOT from the culture natlan is based on. If you know NOTHING from such culture THEN refrain yourself from saying "told you so" or "you should have seen it coming". Indigenous mesoamericans and their myths get barely ANY representation in the media, so for a game as popular as genshin to show some of it, we of course got our HOPES AND EXPECTATIONS. Respect people's wishes and the hope to finally see some of their culture being represented CORRECTLY in a game that people from all around the world play.

#if it gets leaked and i see comments like 'idk why people get mad' or 'it's dumb get mad about it' - i'll hardblock #barely no one knows aztec or maya myths cause the media doesn't talk about it #if u dont care then fine. but WE do and we really want it to be done correctly. #'but it's hoyo' yeah then they can add a tan to the characters like xinyan or kaeya. #I KNOW IT'S NOT ENOUGH but an aztec based god being fully white is just . ... YIKES considering colonization and shit #︾╼╼ █ █ ║˚ ▹ PSA.▕🗲

[johnslittlespoon]

also my inbox is fr a warzone rn i'm SO behind on like ~50 asks </3 itching to get back, just been trying to focus on actual fic writing when i get in a rare productive swing instead of hrs of drabbling and brainrot lmfaooo but i'll clear up a whole evening eventually to sit down and go thru a ton of them!

#or maybe i'll secretly do that one evening and queue up a shit ton of drabble responses to go up every 30 min teehee #who knows it's always a guessing game w my focus levels #speaking of not to irl–post but i am 2 weeks into new adhd meds and feeling FRIED and it's affecting my writing productivity #so that's my disclaimer/excuse for my lack of posts tbh bc i feel like everything i am writing lately is so lackluster/uninspired #so i don't wanna put out half–assed drabbles when i have so many Thoughts and Feelings about each ask that i wanna put into proper words!! #i'm saving them for when little bursts of inspo break thru the new med brain fog u feel me #and aside from that. slowly slowly working my way thru the (now confirmed: chaptered yikes) dog coded fic <3 slowly but surely anyway ^-^ #point is: i am so eager to respond/brainrot to all the ideas in my inbox i don't want u askers to think i am overwhelmed or ignoring asks #just fighting thru tha brain fog such is life we move #johnslittlespoon yaps

[gingerhastoomanyobsessions]

for a webbed site that claims to love rehabilitative justice tumblr sure has a love of vengeance huh. somehow we’ve created a digital atmosphere where literal murder is less bad than (checks notes) not emerging from the womb with a perfectly calibrated moral compass and the Correct Political Opinions

I’ve seen people on here say that, not only can people Not Change, but that people who try to change are a) lying b) manipulative and c) undeserving of the chance to change. besties…becoming a better person isn’t about whether or not you deserve to become a better person, it’s not even about becoming 100% perfect, it’s about doing damage control after you realize you fucked up. like yeah people you’ve hurt aren’t obligated to like you/forgive you/interact with you, but tumblrites seem to think that anyone who’s ever made a serious mistake should be exiled from society and/or guillotined. we’ve gone from reasonable and correct takes about how people change (ex. “it’s not my responsibility to teach you”— yes! of course it shouldn’t be up to underprivileged random people on the internet to educate the uninformed!) to utterly deranged ones (ex. “nobody with privilege will ever realize that they’re doing harm and the ones who claim to be in the process of learning are just virtue signaling and should be punished for it”— a take I’ve seen applied to men learning about feminism, cishets becoming allies, white people learning about antiracism, relatives of shooters who go on to advocate for gun control, etc)

you do realize that people can genuinely change for the better, right? I’ve seen my parents un-transphobia themselves firsthand, going from thinking that my sibling came out “for attention” to wholeheartedly believing in trans rights. my grandma’s father was every kind of asshole imaginable and she grew up indoctrinated, but as an adult she broke away from him and has spent the rest of her life working on unlearning stuff. my cousin grew up in the rural south and parroted his rural southern dad’s opinions until he was thirteen and started actually thinking for himself, at which point he did a total 180 and is now studying history with a focus on the evolution of the rights of the underprivileged

so when I see people on here say that people shouldn’t change because they don’t deserve to change it rubs me the wrong way. cause at that point it sounds like you’d rather have that person stay harmful so you can stay mad at them, instead of letting them change and gaining yourself an ally. again, you don’t need to interact with them, but. at this point it kind of feels like you care more about hating The Oppressors than about protecting The Oppressed.

#also for the love of god this is about politics not fandom. #TO BE CLEAR I do also believe in rehabilitative justice for literal murder whenever possible as well. #i think that the vast majority of humans would be ok people if not for circumstances #(ex indoctrination trauma desperation externalized-self-hatred ignorance etc) #and that rehabilitation/change isn’t about whether or not you ‘deserve it’ but about whether or not you’re making an effort #because either we punish people for ever and ever Or we gain allies. and one option is more tangibly beneficial than the other #standard disclaimer: I am white and therefore probably verbalizing some of this in a wrong or questionable way and/or have holes in my logi #because I have blind spots due to privilege. I know. Nobody’s obligated to tell me where they are or how to fix them #but I don’t hold it against you if you read this and think ‘yikes. (x) sentiment is kind of questionable’ and inform me if you so choose #so long as you don’t literally want me exiled and/or dead it’s chill. to be clear. calling people out/pointing out bias is one thing #calling for their head on a platter is another

[autumnwoodsdreamer]

that was not fun to wake up to, dudes…

#the mandalorian movie #the mandalorian #I mean. they can do whatever they want (and they will) but. yikes. #and I can’t help but think by putting ‘grogu’ in the title but ‘mandalorian’ instead of ‘din djarin’ #… you realize. you REALIZE they’re just gonna pull that ‘well the mandalorian can be anyone’ gag again right?!? #that scene they keep showing? I have a bad feeling it’s gonna be the only instance of din and grogu together. #the rest will be you know who #and ‘apprentice’? what? we allergic to father and son now are we? #they’re preparing us. there’s gonna be a funeral

[daisywords]

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#my life could be so much more healthy and well-balanced if I didn't have roommates #and it's not their fault!!!! they are nice girls!!! we are chill!!! friends even!!! #and yet #I was so optimistic like. hm when I move I will simply stop letting this prevent me from doing what I want #stop letting my weird complexes win #but...that is easier said than done I guess #but I'm so serious right now if I lived alone it would be so much easier for me to eat well and exercise #maintain habits. meal plan. keep things clean #y'all imagine if I could use more than a six inch x six inch square of freezer space #I would have brought my violin here with me but I knew I would never play when anyone else might be in the house #so pretty much never #I would do floor exercises in my room but I'm scared to bc the floor creaks #I would go do it in the basement but I don't want anyone to wonder what I'm doing in the basement #NOT THAT ANYONE CARES #IT'S JUST ME I'M THE WEIRD ONE! I'M THE PROBLEM #look I am mostly normal and enjoy other people's company #I just need no one to perceive or acknowledge me ever when I'm doing my little tasks #yikes yikes yikes #anyway I'm going to be brave and go do dinner now

[ssaalexblake]

Twissy wasn’t a redemptive story, it never was, it was a tragedy the whole time. Missy was not redeemed, Missy wasn’t trying to make up for past wrongs, she was trying to be the doctor’s friend again. The doctor who was, the whole time, saying that being rewarded for goodness voids the action. So if missy is trying to be good for him, to be his friend, then it doesn’t count because of his rules. 

The story was a tragedy the whole time, it wasn’t a redemption arc because Missy’s trying to be his friend, being a better person is a consequence of that, it is not the active motivation in her arc. She even tells him, quite bitingly, that her idea of goodness is very much contrary to his, which tells us that in following his lead she is genuinely not trying to be a good person, merely his friend. 

The doctor did in fact shoot himself in the foot here with his arrogant and short-sighted views on virtue, true,  but nothing can ruin Missy’s redemption because she never once got redeemed and even she’d agree with me on that one, imo. 

#dw shit #not to say she didn't improve as a person but it was still a consequence!!! of her separate goal! #not her actual goal! #if it were her goal to genuinely be a better person #she'd act against him #and we know that bc she tells us so #being sad at something you once did is not redemption #it just means you feel regret #basically if the show wanted me to view it as a redemption arc they should have written one #and not what they did #Mostly i'm sick of the shortsightedness of fandom being??? surprised??? they didn't stop the master being a villain #like... did you Honestly think they'd do that? or did you honestly think they'd killed them off for good? #that's some doctor level self deception. the master is a fan favourite. them being capable of goodness #makes it interesting bc it's not a foregone conclusion they will be evil #All the time #keeps it from being boring #but the master ending as missy would be the. Worst. the Worst. ending for the character yikes #dw meta

[chandralia]

we’ve actually slowed down just a bit :’)

#which means if we want ch285 to be a cliffhanger on ep 9 then ep 8 needs to adapt 4 chapters— or episode 9 does….. #LIKE it’s really not a big deal shdkdhsjhd BUT STILL #I keep rereading them and honestly I feel like they could do 4 chapters next episode… 😭😭 #maybe they could tack a bit of 282 onto the end of episode 8 and the rest onto the beginning of episode 9????? #if not then ummmmm YIKES ! #because this is all based around wanting ch285 being the END of an episode but they might not even do that #they could stretch it out to episode 10 to where Bakugo jumps in front of Deku (commercial break) #THEN we immediately go into Deku’s rampage which… would still give the illusion that Bakugo’s dead for anime-onlys #but I REALLY want them to think he’s gone for A WHOLE WEEK like we did 😭😭 #which is why having that shot of Bakugo getting pierced is the perfect cliffhanger—LET ME INTO THE STUDIO DHFKSGDJ #they were on a perfect roll of adapting 3 chapters per episode WHAT HAPPENED #bkdk #dkbk #bakudeku #dekubaku #:’)

[fastfists]

Honestly, as someone who owns a lot of the Archie comics (one day I'll go through them and sort them proper), anytime Pender wrote for any character was yikes. The ladies especially.

#I'm Just Warming Up {OOC} #Mun Menu {Post} #He also has this odd fixation on Knuckles/the Echidnas; I joke about the character needing a restraining order from him #Dude literally thought SEGA stole his ideas for the Master Emerald and later about the Chronicle series... #And even later in the movies when we saw Knuckles Dad; he stated they stole his ideas again...because apparently Knuckles can't have a dad? #Like fan's joked it was Locke BUT that was a joke; it wasn't #So yeah; most characters when out of Pender's clutches were better written at times...and it shows #I actually liked Julie-Su when anyone BUT Pender wrote for her #...also not even mention the weird shit with Charmy he did...like WOW #Thank heavens that some of his ideas were vetoed HARD by the team...like what he wanted to do with Sally and Geoffrey #If you know than you know...and it was YIKES

[ask-ursa-tonypeter]

[fic: DB] Tony, how challenging has it been to dismantle all of your evil self’s carefully laid plans? Also, have you reached out to your old friends (Rhodey, Pepper, Happy)? How do you explain to them what happened?

I'm working on it. Backing out means giving a lot of dangerous people a lot of reasons to be very mad at me, so it's a delicate thing. And "delicate" isn't exactly my forte.

…Reaching out is… Peter needs someone other than me around, but I don't want anyone else to get tangled up in what I've been doing. ...Or what I might have to keep doing in the meantime.

So that's on pause until I have a better plan.

#fic: double blind #double blind: tony #ursa interlude: #this is such a good question because it's honestly why I ended the fic where I did #slash do not have much motivation for a sequel #BECAUSE #as interesting as I find the idea of exploring their relationship in the aftermath #when it comes to the “how optimistic are we that cured!tony would be able to back out of this without Consequences” question #I am actually on the more-pessimistic-than-not side #and that just does not gel with the semi-hopeful circumstances I wanted to end on skdfjlsdjk #I do want them to have a happy ending here but yikes I sure fucked 'em up on multiple fronts!!!

[felinenthusiast]

sigh. realising an understanding about one of my favourite characters of all time has just greatly shifted. i need to reconfigure my entire brain because this character has changed sexual orientation to me lol

#rambles #i wanted him to be. bisexual. like me. and it was the obvious choice considering the fact he's literally been married to women. twice. #but i just... his first marriage canonically just 'happened' to him before he knew it based on societal expectations #like we dont know much other than it's described as just. occurring before he knew it. in a very passive way. #so i like to think they WERE friends and it was a nice relationship. but um. i truly do not believe there was any romance there. #his second marriage was literally a political marriage to keep him tethered to a company... he canonically feels no love towards her. #(also. im deeply defensive of female characters who are hit with the 'abusive' accusation out of nowhere it happens too much and is levelle #very incorrectly i'd say like. 60% of the time. but this woman IS genuinely abusive to him. first emotionally. then she beats him later :| #so great marriage that one was! yikes!) #then his (MALE) coworker corners him in the bathroom and he immediately interprets it gayly and can respond like #'this was going to happen sooner or later' <- real quote. #and he's nervous but down for the gay scenario he's constructed in his head (it's not actually gay.) #and then also. he goes on to have Even More intense homoeroticism with a completely different man. #like Oh. babygirl you are a deeply closeted gay man. i understand now. #im sorry mr osawa. #Sorry im rambling about things no o e cares about also. #im obvs thinking of a specific character but also like. im sure others have had this experience #when you're the ceo of a character (me and my partner are largely cus he doesn't have any other big fans lol) and your understanding shifts

[dxringred]

i still don’t understand the claim that robin didn’t ramble around vickie because she likes her and wanted to listen to her and/or likes her enough that she feels comfortable around her. for one thing, if A. was the case, why is that not what happened at the rally? and if B. was the case, how come she still had a slight tendency to ramble around nancy even after spending more time with her than she ever did vickie? 

like... this is only the second time she’s been around vickie? (third if you really want to count the scene where vickie’s sucking face with her boyfriend, but i’d call that reaching.) am i really supposed to believe robin is completely chill and comfortable with her crush that quickly? because i don’t.

and the argument about robin not doing it because she wants to listen feels really... disrespectful? rude? (i don’t know the adjective i’m looking for) with regards to real people who have a tendency to ramble, either due to having a crush or because they’re autistic etc. because rambling isn’t always something you can control? like, it just happens lol, and sometimes you don’t even realize you’re doing it until someone stops you. 

so to be like, “oh, robin didn’t ramble because she cares and wanted to listen,” almost sounds like, “oh, if you ramble, that means you don’t care and don’t want to listen.” at least, to me, anyway. also she literally still rambles around steve lmao, and i think you’ll be hard-pressed to convince most people that robin doesn’t care about him.

anyway, all this to say that i personally got the vibe that she realized vickie isn’t the one for her and/or isn’t the person she thought she was, as is often the case when people get to know their crushes. seeing her snogging her boyfriend put things into perspective for robin, and listening to her at the charity drive (or w/e) kind of solidified for her that, okay, vickie’s nice, but it turns out she isn’t actually what i’m looking for. 

#stranger things #ronance #(kind of?) #i mean i'll throw it in that tag because y'all get me #no hate to ro/ckie shippers #if that's the interpretation you want to go with #since i'm out here interpreting the shit out of #robin and nancy's behavior around each other #but i just do not see it #and think the arguments are pretty weak #as someone who is autistic #(which robin is heavily coded as) #and regularly rambles to/around her girlfriend #the idea that if you ramble means you don't care or want to listen is kind of #big yikes #i think robin was more affected by that kiss #than she (or the show) wants to admit #and oblivious vickie doesn't even realize #and spends most of the time talking about her boyfriend anyway #i mean we all know where the show is gonna go with it #but the way it was acted? #this is the vibe i got

[abnerkrill]

well you see it establishes the show's absurdly satirical tone and the cruelty of the lengths magicians and con artists will go to in order to shock and dupe you because you're vulnerable when you're in a state of revulsion and disgust. and it establishes the protagonist's cynical and blase outlook on extreme violence and her capability and resourcefulness when faced with shocking situations and it also peels back a layer and gets you 'in' on the meta story the show is telling by introducing you right off the bat to an absurdly violent situation that is in fact a farce. and it also turns the entire situation back on the viewer to ask why we ourselves are invested in The Narrative when The Narrative is itself a work of emotional manipulation. but yeah what could it possibly add.........

#this is about mrs davis but i ain't tagging anyone #this is a show about The Narrative wiley has a whole great scene commenting metatextually about the cliches of a scene #simone is so overtly aware of the way she's become a Chosen One figure because the AI has made her one #and the AI wants to make her the Chosen One! and both the AI and wiley manipulate everyone around them to force Simone into that role #this is a story about stories!!! the chosen one the hero's journey the everything #the ren faire episode especially made me go oh yikes i definitely fall prey to the simple fantasy #when reality and life do not work like that and we have to get out of childish black and white thinking #anyway...... watch mrs. davis #will tag #spoilers #just in case. but yeah. watch mrs davis pleeeease