Why does aziraphale tells crowley he forgives him??? I literally just finished it and its driving me insane
hello anon! hope you're doing okay after that ending!
that's a hell of a question. there are a few different answers, and i think a lot was going on in aziraphale's head at that particular moment, but this is what I took from it:
-this is a dance aziraphale and crowley have been doing for a long time.
there's some sort of moral conflict. aziraphale repeats heaven's party line. crowley asks a bunch of uncomfortable questions. aziraphale doubles down. crowley calls him an idiot. aziraphale forgives him. crowley storms away. pretty much half of their relationship is built on these kinds of destructive patterns at this point--of course they'd fall back into it during the worst fight they've ever had.
-aziraphale is angry.
he's heartbroken, and he doesn't understand why crowley has decided to abandon him in what should be (from his perspective) the happiest moment of their lives since the fall. he's lashing out, and intentionally hurting crowley in the same way he's been hurt. he's not stupid, no matter how much miscommunication is happening in this scene--telling someone "i forgive you" after they've kissed you is going to hurt, and he knows that.
this reading comes mostly from michael's performance. several people have noted that in the moments immediately after the kiss, aziraphale says "I l--" and then cuts himself off. then he goes on a Michael Sheen Face Journey TM and ends up angry, and that's when we get "I forgive you." whatever else is going on with aziraphale in this moment, he's pissed.
-forgiveness is what aziraphale does.
in aziraphale's very first (modern day) scene of the season, we learn that forgiveness is "one of his favorite things." he forgives maggie's rent, and he forgives gabriel enough to shelter him from heaven and hell while he's vulnerable. it's an instinct for aziraphale, for better or worse, whether it's because it's something he thinks he SHOULD do or something intrinsic to him as a person who desperately wants to do good. occasionally, it's even something he does for his own gain. (see: forgiving maggie was a kind action, but he himself admits that part of his motivation was that she always knows how to find his music.) it makes sense that he would fall back on forgiveness as a framework for understanding a mess of complicated and painful emotions. it makes him feel better, forgiving people, and he needs the comfort of that here.
-he means it.
he forgives crowley for saying no. he forgives crowley for breaking his heart. he forgives crowley for always asking 'damn fool' questions. he forgives crowley for kissing him at the worst possible time. he forgives crowley for falling. he forgives crowley for making him doubt. he forgives crowley for being kind, and clever, and ridiculous, and special, and someone he couldn't help but fall in love with, no matter how much it hurts them both.
and unfortunately, forgiveness is the one thing that will always make crowley walk away.
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Dudeeee I can’t get over that mesa/desert segment. In 3rd Life, Scar leads Grian to the desert based on Grian’s guilt after a joke gone long, and the desert becomes their home. Here, they’re together on a camel, heading for a similar but different biome. They discover the desert together and crack jokes about another desert so long ago, Scar taking the cactus before Grian can grab it but ultimately gives it to him and both of their voices are so fond?? They part ways, but there’s no bitterness or resentment. There are no comments on the hurt between them in past seasons. Both Scar and Grian have silently forgiven the other, and this tiny desert tucked away in the mesa serves as both a blank slate and the ability to look to the past without drowning in it. Whether or not they team this season, they’ll be okay.
And I am on the floor, sobbing (positive)
IT MAKES ME SO ILL LIKE ????? WHAT THE HELL ARE THE CHANCES OF THAT.
they’re on a camel (one grian WILLINGLY jumps on). first it’s the red sand. and then it goes into regular sand. and there’s cacti. and grian and scar are just giggling together. they’re laughing and making jokes. and they reference the past but it’s good.
AND THE MOST INTERESTING THING!
neither of them have joined any groups. they’ve both ended with their own base. their own location.
and it just… really sticks out to me. I hope they fall into some kind of alliance. I hope they end up working together and things are good.
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Even post-reveal, there will be anxieties left
@naffeclipse Hi sorry I've neglected the boys in the hurt/comfort, I've come to deliver <3 So normal about all of them being so so touch-starved, and how Sun/Moon may hold back (to their own detriment) in fear of scaring their little hunter once they all know (about Y/N's history, about Sun/Moon's identity)
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kana and ruby are both characters who have been abandoned, whether it was unintentional or intentional, so kana deciding to take this heartbreaking step all to help ruby by appearing to abandon her knowing the devastation she is about to wreak because she's experienced it herself but doing it anyway because kana arima has never been more important than other peoples dreams and goals has always been the one to be sacrifice she does it again because she will be fine she always has been shes always been alone (right?)
(maybe a part of her is finally happy to say it all to let it all out but she buries that part because its shameful, isnt it? why should she take catharsis when shes caused her friend pain?)
and ruby who has been left behind being suddenly blindsided by this betrayal from kana, the one whos always supported her, on top of every other betrayal she has experienced left doubting every relationship she has wondering why why why why do people keep leaving?
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the amptp refused to negotiate AI usage for tv and film
the amptp refused to negotiate weekly MBA minimums during post-production
the amptp refused to negotiate viewership-based residuals for SVOD and (high budget) AVOD series writers
the amptp proposed day-paying (!) comedy/variety writers and daytime writers on streaming as opposed to offering them the same protections they are guaranteed on broadcast and cable.
there’s more and you can read it for yourself. let’s keep this clear: the amptp forced the wga to go on strike, and all of the financial, cultural, and emotional fallout the fault of the studios, not the writers trying to make a living.
to quote amazing tv writer ashley nicole black: “this is scary. but a future where we accept what the companies are trying to do— low paid, freelancer writing gigs with no job security— is much scarier.”
anyways. happy writers strike day one i guess.
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ok
back to the drawing board of manifesting a man in my life who looks and is exactly like Ace so we can be in a relationship :/
my manifestations have been goin CRAZY lately so time to turn that energy to the man that I want!!!🥰🥰🥰🩷🩷
Us if you even care :( (I found this on Pinterest pls don’t flay me alive)
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anyways on the topic of wholesome but sad that we didn't talk about can i please, PLEASE, for a second cry about the fact that richters entire concept of love is "i care about everybody so i must love everybody. it does not matter if they love me back because i have so much love to give that i don't need to receive any" and that he is the definition of "self-sacrificial idiot willing to die for a stranger".
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