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soundcrusher · 1 year
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A Dark Tale
Part 3 of the Spinoff set in the normal sentient Lost Light au from @cuppajj is out. Woo!
And sg/Rodimus is traumatizing everyone!
Enjoy!
Trigger Warning: Mentions of dismemberment (It's not very detailed, but still)
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Ultra Magnus let out an exasperated sigh, as he placed the data-pad containing the information on Rodimus’ doppelgänger down. Ever since the black and purple mech had woken up, he has tried to get information out of him. And at first the mech seemed to be co-operative. Answering questions and telling them some facts about his home universe without the need of prodding. He seemed to prefer talking with Brainstorm and Perceptor when it was about the differences of their and his universes. The most shocking revelation of that conversation was, that, apparently, in the second Rodimus’ universe, the Decepticons were the good guys and the Autobots were the bad ones. Although, the second they moved him into their interrogation room and cuffed him to the chair, ‘Dark Rodimus’ (as Brainstorm called him) has gone quiet. And when he spoke, all he did was ask about when they would bring him back to his cell. It was infuriating, to say the least.
“Well… this could be going better.” Said Rodimus, their Rodimus, as he looked through the one sided glass at his doppelgänger. “But I doubt bringing Brainstorm and Perceptor back would make anything better.”
“I could talk with him.” Offered Rung. “He seemed to, at least, be more open in my presence.”
“Perhaps, but he also seemed to grow distant as soon as you asked him about his trauma.” Said Megatron, as he took the data-pad from Ultra Magnus and gave it a look over. Stopping at one particular paragraph that talked about the ‘brother’ Dark Rodimus seemed to have. “Maybe we should ask him about his brother. When he mentioned him to Brainstorm, he seemed to get into a more talkative mood.”
“Maybe, but who should go in there and mention him? He won’t talk to any of us.” Said Ultra Magnus, to which Rodimus let out a groan and crossed his arms. “Maybe we should really put him back in his cell. Nothing seems to loosen his tongue…” Muttered the prime, before he snapped his fingers. “I got it!”
“This won’t be good…” Whispered Megatron quietly, which got him a slight glare from Rodimus, before he explained his idea. “Why don’t we get Phoenix to talk to him? If my assumptions are correct, as they always are, there might be a different version of Phoenix too. And if the story is the same, just flipped, then he might also have adopted him as his brother.”
“That… is an idea. Very well, let us see if your plan works.” Said Ultra Magnus, before sending a message to Phoenix. Asking him to come to their interrogation room. And even though the youngling said that he had something more important to do, he still came. Walking into the room and sitting down across from Rodimus’ doppelgänger. Much to the other prime’s surprise, and, perhaps, even concern? At least the four Cybertronians watching from behind the glass thought they saw concern in those red optics.
“So… they send a kid to do their dirty work…” Muttered the black and purple speedster, as soon as the youngling had sat down. “And yet, they call themselves the good guys.”
“First of all, I am not a kid. I am a grown mech, otherwise my carrier would have never sent me with my old crew into space. Secondly, they didn’t send me to do their dirty work. They asked me if I could help, and I said yes.” Said Phoenix, before crossing his arms over his chest. “So, why don’t we get this over with and you answer some questions. I still got something to do.”
“And what would that be?” Asked the prime, as he leaned back in the chair and mirrored Phoenix’s crossed arms as best as he could. The cuffs around his wrists didn’t make it easy for him to move them after all. “Don’t tell me you’re trying to take over the ship while no-one is looking.” He said with a chuckle, which was met with a small laugh from the youngling in return.
“No, I’m trying to find my own doppelgänger who came out of your ship, but disappeared after a small confrontation between him, Cyclonus, Tailgate me and Lightlost.” Phoenix said, before tilting his head at the burning hatred that appeared inside the other prime’s optics, as he looked behind the youngling and towards the opening door. And Phoenix followed his gaze, only to smile at the entering cartographer. “Lightlost! Don’t tell me Rodimus got worried and send you in to have an optic on me. I promise, I’m not planning on taking over the ship. That seems more like a Getaway thing.”
“No, Phoenix, I got sent in as back-up, should things turn sour.” Said Lightlost, before sitting down in the chair next to the youngling’s. “Although, it seems like I am not as welcomed here as you are, sweetspark.”
“You’re right, you’re not.” Growled the dark prime, before he shook his helm and dropped the glare. “But I can’t really do anything against it now, or can I? I’m stuck here, while my brother is somewhere on the ship. Probably losing months worth of work, because he had to see the one mech that broke him.” Muttered the speedster, and let out a small groan as he saw the confusion on the younglings face, and the worry on the cartographers. “Alright, it seems that I have to explain some things,” he leaned forward. Servos on the table, as he looked from Phoenix to Lightlost, and then over to the window. “but those things aren’t really meant for the audials of younglings. Especially if they don’t know who their friends are.”
That comment seemed to rub Phoenix the wrong way, because he was ready to say something back, but Lightlost stopped him by placing a servo on his shoulder and smiling softly. “Phoenix, how about you go and look for your doppelgänger, hm? I’m sure you’ll have better luck finding him, than anyone else on the ship.” The only answer Lightlost got was a small, disgruntled, grumple from the youngling, before he got up and left the room. Although, conversations didn’t start up, until both of them were sure that Phoenix really did go away.
“He’s quite the confrontational youngling, isn’t he?” Asked the prime after a while. “How did he end up on the ship either way? Don’t tell me you kidnapped him.”
Lightlost shook their head at the question. “He hasn’t told us much. We know that his old crew threw him overboard and that they weren’t as kind to the youngspark, but that was it… Why would you ask if we kidnapped him though?”
“… You misunderstood the question. I didn’t ask if you and your crew kidnapped him, I asked if you did.” He said, before raising a digit and spinning it in a small circle. “My… our Lightlost did. Well, it wasn’t really kidnapping, not when Phoenix’s own crew handed him over in exchange for their own lives, but still. In a way, they kidnapped him.”
Which each word Rodimus said, he could see how this universes Lightlost’s expression turned from confusion, to shock, to horrified, before settling with concern. A strange expression, if it was sincere and not a facade. “There were more things they did to him, you know? Simply kidnapping the young spark wouldn’t cut it, now would it? But for that, I would have to start from the beginning.” And from the beginning, he did start. Telling Lightlost, and the mechs behind the one way glass everything that happened on board their Lost Light. From how their travels were, until the Lost Light decided their fate. And then, he told them how ‘his’ ship had killed everyone, how they slowly tore his crew apart, no matter how hard they tried to stay alive.
“You would be surprised how long a mech can survive, when his body gets repaired with either the corpses of his dead crew, or with the parts of those who are too stupid to explore a ‘ghost ship’.” Said Rodimus with a chuckle, before he continued his tale. Going into every detail of how he was trapped in his own mind, while his body was rotting away on his captain’s chair. And never once did he stop. Not even when those behind the glass asked him to stop. No, he had a story to tell, and he won’t stop until it is told, and the Lost Light of this universe knew what the other version of them did.
Not until they knew how their Lightlost had broken his brother.
“And then…” Rodimus grew quiet, deathly quiet, as he tried to suppress the tears he’s been keeping in for all those years. “Did you know that Phoenix had a carrier? I don’t know if your Phoenix has one, but mine did. And they killed her. Lightlost killed her right in front of him, and why? Just because she was in the way…. I think that’s when Phoenix’s spark truly started to break. Heh… and then they took him…” Rodimus’ face turned dark, as he looked at Lightlost with hate that wasn’t directed at them, but rather at someone else. Someone they shared a face with. “Do you know how terrible it is to return to the one place you never wanted to go back to? To be back on that cursed ship, only to watch your supposed ‘caretaker’ take apart a youngling? They took his wings! They ripped them off, together with his legs, before I was even there. And then, when I saw him again, they ripped off his servos and tore out his voice box… They broke him even more, and all I could do was watch…”
There was silence as the darker prime lowered his gaze to his shaking fists. The story was over after all, and Rodimus didn’t feel like sharing the rest. How Phoenix and Thrillchaser stayed on Delphi, while he was out doing his job as bounty hunter, helping out the DJD and lending a servo to Sotstreet and Fungus when they decided to become Phoenix’s legal guardians. No, this part of the story was not for anyone else to know.
However, when Rodimus looked back up, all he saw were the concerned optics of this universes Lightlost. Something the prime found quite unnerving, because the displayed concern was genuine. It was real, and he didn’t know how to deal with that. Maybe that’s why he flinched away as soon as they started moving, and maybe that’s why he lost his composure as soon as they were too close. Yelling at them to “Stay the fuck away!”, as he raised his cuffed arms in a threatening way.
But before Lightlost could make an attempt to explain themself, the door suddenly burst open and a panicked blue and white youngling stumbled in. Looking behind himself to see if the door closed, before letting out a sigh of relief as he didn’t see anyone following him. Although, that relief soon enough turned into sheer panic, once he saw Lightlost standing there.
And with his adrenaline running high, and his emotional distress kicking into overdrive at the sight of the only mech on the ship he didn’t want to see, Phoenix fainted and Rodimus slipped out of his cuffs and rushed to his brother. Picking him up, before making an attempt to escape the room. Only to be stopped by Ultra Magnus and Megatron as the door opened.
“Heh… I should get used to your crew being alive, shouldn’t I Lightlost?”
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whatudottu · 3 years
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Because I've held this off for too long, once again it seems that @nukeli has beaten me to the punch with colour schemes. Damn my procrastination or whatever, but I only just realised that I didn't put any mention of the 'fodder' classes (Vehicons, Insecticons and I suppose Autotroopers since I'm including them) and wanted to put down my thoughts before writing this up.
An added bonus here is that certain character have different alts (based on character changes and even the heavier focus of 'robots in disguise' that these Decepticons are after) so it's not just me ranting about colour schemes.
Yes, this was why I was complaining about the wiki altmodes, so deal with the vehicles I found instead. May or may not be due to me using images as references haha.
The Autobots (you are here)
The Decepticons Part 1
The Decepticons Part 2
Going in order of my notes, we begin with Cliffjumper. He’s obviously a 1970 Dodge Challenger and what colours I’ve given him are on the image below. Nothing much to say about a definitely dead character other than I didn’t just wanna make him blue.
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Next on the list is good old Doctor Ratchet. I’ve had it in my mind ever since Nuke’s one post that SG!Ratchet was like Medic from TF2, so I guess I took it and ran.
To play an opposite to regular Ratchet, he comes across as affable and friendly but is really just doing the things he loves to people he hates. Autobots, Decepticons, hates everyone. He despises Optimus Prime too, but he can’t do anything unless he wants to be cooped up in his berthroom reattaching his limbs for it. Believe him, he tried.
As for altmode and colours, I spent way too long finding that he resembles a Mercedes Benz G-Class ambulance that I was ticked to find out he wasn’t at all. I special looked for the green coloured ambulance because Synth-En, duh!
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Breaking in after the Doctor comes our local wrecker Bulkhead. I don’t have much of a read on this guy, other than the fact that I thought it’d be a cool idea for him to lose a lot of his memories after ‘TMI’, ya know, from the Synth-En recipe? Certainly not set in stone, but it could very well contribute to my accidental theme of memory (which only has some small links in the posts I actually created).
With the help of my car enthused cousin I have given our not so loveable mech a Terradyne Gurkha, a little more military than the wiki’s off-roader Lamborghini that I’m too annoyed to bother to look at. I thought that the military origins and the black colour scheme sorta allude to something something mindless military man. yada yada.
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Following him is our ever wonderful Optimus Prime, or maybe Lord Prime? Haven’t thought too much about that. What I have thought of is this master manipulator who mayhaps also be a little bit delusional idk we’ll decide in the car.
I always loved the idea of a smiling SG!Prime, as if there’s still hints of this benevolent leader that the original has, but it’s warped and meant to add fodder to the war, encouraging mechs to fight to their deaths all in the name of not only the Autobots, but their Prime. Also as a warped version of the original, I wanted Shattered Glass Optimus to be deluded in the fact that Megatron will change, change at least, to submit to the real leader. Ain’t happening. That’s sorta there with Ratchet too, but well, you read Ratchet’s piece didn’t you?
SG!Prime is consistently purple and black, and whilst I have found a Peterbilt Semi Truck with that wonderful colour, it comes with white instead. Think about it, this typically evil colour paired with often innocent white, that’s like perfect for what I’m going for.
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Fitting that he’s next, it’s time for Prime’s Second In Command Ultra Magnus. I’ve... really got nothing for him. Maybe he’s still by-the-books but like he finds loopholes just to commit atrocities? I don’t know.
I’ve given this boy a Mack Trident alt instead of Prime’s Peterbilt, just for differences sake.
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After Magnus, we got our little bug Bumblebee... or is it. Because I wanted to change his colours a bit without going into Beast Hunter territory, I wondered if bees come in different colours and, low and behold, they do!
As for the boy himself, I think he was one of the bots manipulated by Prime himself to join the cause and, given his almost rewritten personality, has only lived through to this point in the war by sheer luck. This mech is an absolute menace, feral and powered by the need for Prime’s approval, tearing others with denta and servo more often than with stingers and blasters.
Now you’ve noticed I haven’t been using his name? That’s because he’s now Blue Band (I just realised he’s still bb haha)! He gets his name from the Blue Banded bee, and I found a Chevrolet Camaro to match.
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In line with BB’s younger status, feast your eyes on Shattered Glass Smokescreen! Oh boy isn’t he a delight. His hero worship has essentially turned him to a prime (pardon the pun) candidate for Optimus to form into his perfect super soldier, who already would die for this deranged mech even before laying optics on this grand Prime.
So, he’s an absolute suck up, a straight up spoiled brat that has it harder than Blue Band for Prime’s acknowledgement, and is actively showing off and bragging that he’s Optimus’ favourite (he’s not, he just encourages it because that’s the easiest way to get Smokey to do what he wants).
Almost to reflect that (perhaps another pun) I found this gaudy Chameleon Chevy Corvette that absolutely SCREAMS show off.
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Regrettably partnered up with him after the passing of Cliffjumper, Arcee has run out of patience. Not everything she does is motivated by Airachnid (what kind of character would that be? not a fun one) but she does often enjoy killing those connected with her. After Tailgate, she’s gotten a little mad, but her effectiveness otherwise increased so others never bothered to ‘fix’ her.
Having lost both of her partners, when she absolutely hates another (read; Airachnid and Starscream because he still kills Cliff) the best kind of revenge is putting her opponents in her own pedes. Oh, that mech’s growing attached to one of his comrades? Slice and dice them before their optics. Oh, that femme is finally coming out of her shell and making friends? Gore out their spark and hope that humans don’t decide this would be the perfect time to practice what they preach and save the life of that same mech with a hard to perform surgery that may or may not have been lost to time.
Okay so she’s obviously a Kawasaki Ninja (haha that’s kind of fitting) and I was tempted to make her pink like other Arcee iterations, but look at this fancy stuff right here. He hoo glowy look pretty!
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Almost in leu of an Airachnid archetype, Wheeljack comes in. Though still quite the wrecker and ever the bomb enthusiast, instead of actively celebrating his impacts and going solo to stop the rust settling in, he’d rather be offed whilst mechs are distracted by his pretty explosion and lay forgotten in the dirt.
I may have accidentally rooted the unintentional memory theme deeply with the wreckers (Breakdown included) and maybe just took it and ran, giving everyone else a little connection, but Wheeljack is probably the most explicit in this idea. He hates nicknames (which i super Ratchet uses to mock him here in Shattered Glass) because that’s like... naming something you’re going to keep to quote that specific fic which, honestly, I can’t remember. Wheeljack split from others to stop them from remembering him and put himself closer to a situation where he can die alone, as morbid as that sounds. No grand death, no stupid death and no straight up suicide (generally that’s a VERY impactful kind of death) so just a mediocre end is what he’s been looking for for a little bit too long.
As for his colours, I apparently have no taste and should not have a car because I really like what this image has going for it. This C3 Corvette is probably one of the few cars that fits the straight up box of a sports car that Jackie’s got, so I’m sticking to it, so no, don’t show me the wiki I’m ignoring it this was too painful to give up dang it!
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Okay, finishing off the bots, I have the Autotroopers. Sure, I’m not using a reference of a car to show off the colours, mainly because there’s also going to be flier troopers too, maybe... surely... definitely. Most depictions of them are white, you know, goodie goodie, and I’m tempted to just laze around and do just that. Instead, I think a goldish colour would be fun.
Aside from sharing a key colour with Ultra Magnus, essentially a war lawyer, which is perfect for subjects made to obey, a nice glimmering finish almost feels like they’re all manipulated by Prime to believe in the Autobot cause. I suppose the special devision, if there is one, would be a nice Prime purple, sorta like if it’s Optimus’ personal guard if he actually had any belief they would do their jobs.
Oh boy this is so long...
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projbluebook · 3 years
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S01E01-02 - Children Of The Gods
I've had this idea to do “liveblogs” of the Stargate series for a while, and I suppose now that we've all got nothing but time on our hands, it's as good a time as any to actually do it.
Also, Amazon Prime is apparently cycling Stargate out of Prime Video, so now I have an excuse to finally buy the DVD sets like I've been meaning to do for ever since the show was actually on the air. Because screw Amazon for dropping the best sci-fi show ever made anyway.
(I already have season 1 on DVD, so there's no waiting.  Plus it means I can ignore any cliffhangers.)
Bored SFs playing poker in front of the gate.  I'd forgotten how ruthless about telling-absolutely-all-of-the-backstory these early episodes were.
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I think the DVD version is uncut, so I should have the full-length “reproductive organs on the inside” speech, but we'll see when the time comes.
Huh.  So Apophis does turn the gate off for a hot second here.  Which is a plus, considering if he walked backwards into a wormhole, the first...five or so seasons would be really boring.
Jaffa armor is bulletproof in this episode.
SF dudes running around the SGC.  Get used to that one, boys.  You'll be doing that for years.
General Hammond!
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That is a nice upward shot in the gateroom there.  Give everybody a chance to get used to the space.
The giant Ra statue thing in the title sequence is a throw-back to the movie, but I did like when they moved to a show-specific opening sequence.
“Get re-assed to NASA.  That's where all the action's gonna be.  Out there.”  Yeah, about that one, Jack…
The original Fringedweller's Guide, which I am shamelessly copying (now gone from the interwebs), once observed that this episode is kind of weird since Richard Dean Anderson looks nothing at all like Kurt Russell but Michael Shanks looks nearly exactly like Stargate!James Spader.  And…this is just as true now as it was then.
I feel like Hammond's duty ribbon patch gets bigger over the course of the series.
Oh man, Hammond is totally playing hardball with Jack on this first episode.
He just called Jack “Airman!”  Holy crap, that's super mean.  Damn.
I don't know why General Hammond is so upset at Jack tossing a Kleenex box through the gate. How many million dollars is the Air Force not putting on the line with box-of-Kleenex-v-MALP?  Frankly, it's very cost effective.
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Every last one of those SFs has an AR-15.  To a man.
(I think.)
Sam!  Sam, Sam, Sam!  My whole heart!
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(Other than Janet, Jacob, Paul Davis, and Caldwell.  But it's early days and for now there is only Sam.)
Oh, yes! We did get the whole speech.  I think this is the uncut version! Hell yeah.
I love this show, but Shau'ri really does get shoved in the fridge.
Jack and Kowalski in absolute awe of two brains just...grooving.
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When does Jaffa armor stop being bulletproof?  Because here we are on Abydos, and it clearly still is.
Now, I'll admit, Alexis Cruz has his appeal, but I think Apophis is going a bit far to call Skaara a “perfect specimen.”  …Well, after looking up some internet pictures, though, he's not far off these days.
So, by this point, we have already got all the major players for the first Big Arc on the board.  Jack, Carter, Daniel, Teal'c, Hammond, and Apophis have already had screen time.  Teal'c's intro was really sneaky, though, which is a nice touch.
Oh! The control room is directly opposite the gate.  I always thought it was up a level.  Huh.
Wait, why is Hammond so mad at Daniel there?  That's weird.
Oh man, some of these folks are killing it at the Game of Intense Hats.  The Jaffa aren't even making a serious effort here.
My gosh, I'd forgotten how fluffy Daniel's hair was in these early episodes.
Teal'c seems to have some kind of a strategy here, but I genuinely can't suss out what it is.
I know that part of this is Apophis being a dog, but if I had a giant, oozy pouch in my stomach, I would not be wearing a rave bikini.  Just sayin'.
Apophis' eye make-up is on point.  Gold shadow, winged liner, boy got eye game.
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“Feretti's conscious, sir!”  Literally everyone just ditches Hammond without so much as a by-your-leave.
Yes, definitely the uncut version.
Before it got shifted to mean the whole planet, Chulak was really a thriving metropolis here.
Poor Hammond.  He really has a hard time watching everybody go away and not knowing if they're gonna come back.
Teal'c very sneaky there, covering up the tau'ri symbol.  And then the SGC intentionally plasters it all over every damn thing they send to space.
That is the weirdest palanquin design I've ever seen.  Turn-over for the bearers must be super high.
“For this, you can stay at my place!”  That line always makes me giggle.
I think some of these shots from the Death Glider are recycled from the movie.
Klorel is a rude little ass.
Look-outs see bad guys coming.  Look-outs immediately stand up and make themselves more visible targets.
Daniel really cuts his dial-time in the coming episodes.
This is actually quite a tense scene with the running gun-battle retreat.
All of SG-1, standing heroically in front of the gate for the first time. Gets you right…here.
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For the record, I love the credits music.  I think I prefer it to the opening theme.
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incomingalbatross · 4 years
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“what if Teal’c shot Apophis in the pilot “ au, Tangled as Fairy Tale, and There's No Place Like Home? (If three is ok)
Ah, the Stargate ones, thank you!
“what if Teal’c shot Apophis in the pilot”--so this is my own take on a self-indulgent time travel AU. The idea is that SG-1 gets their consciousnesses sent back in time from somewhere around S10 to the first time each of them stepped through Earth’s Gate (because the travel mechanism is linked to Gate travel somehow), BUT they don’t get their conscious memories, just their S10 instincts/attachments/personalities.
And so then Apophis steps through in the pilot, looking to abduct some women, and Teal’c steps into the chappa’ai after him... but the Teal’c who comes out is psychologically/emotionally S10 Teal’c, not Apophis’s First Prime. 
And if S10 Teal’c saw Apophis in the SGC Gateroom, he would simply shoot Apophis in the face until he was dead.
So he does that, instinctively, then fights with the other Jaffa a bit, and then General Hammond and his troops come bursting in and the other Jaffa flee and Teal’c surrenders? I think? And then Jack gets called in like canon... except this is S10 Jack and Daniel gets called in too, because they went through this the first time they went to Abydos and I feel like S10 Daniel wouldn’t decide to marry Sha’re and leave Earth forever. And then they and Teal’c instinctively recognize each other, and General Hammond, and everyone tries to hash out together what the hec the Stargate did to their brains. (And Sam gets called in and there’s a lot of one-sided recognition until she gets to go through the Gate, at which point she’s like “oh THIS is what you were talking about. WEIRD. OKAY” and tries to science the problem with aninside perspective.) But no matter what, Apophis is dead and Abydos never gets raided, so that’s a good start on a better timeline.
There’s very little of this actually written, but I did write Teal’c shooting Apophis, which was cathartic:
Teal’c of Chulak, Jaffa warrior, looks around this gray place. Somehow, it feels…it feels familiar, as if were welcoming him. Everything about it says to him, somehow, that this is a place of refuge, of protection, of freedom. This place is sacred to the protection of the innocent.
(…)
And then Apophis steps out of the chappa’ai, golden faceplate folding back until the cruel, bored, disdainful face is exposed. “Jaffa! Kree!” he demands, throwing in the unnatural boom of a Goa’uld voice…
And Teal’c finds his mind and heart on fire with revulsion and rejection that this creature, this thing, should be here. The sight of Apophis standing in this chamber, trespassing in a place of safety with his foulness, come to threaten the lives and liberty of the people to whom it belongs… It is unconscionable.
Teal’c finds himself ablaze with instincts he had not felt since childhood—and, in the place of his suddenly-vanished comrade Despair, he finds resolve and certainty.
Without a second thought, every part of him for once in total harmony, he lifts his staff and fires in Apophis’s stolen face—once, and again, and again, until there is only a smoking void within the golden helmet and no possibility of escape for the accursed snake.
There’s No Place Like Home--oddly enough, not an in-story Oz reference in the whole fic! Jack would be disappointed in me.
This is my SG-1/Atlantis AU that mostly lives in my head, but which I am very attached to—in this timeline, Daniel killed Anubis at the end of S6, and they beat the Replicators for good at the start of S8, which means Daniel was actually free to join the Atlantis expedition! So yes. Daniel-in-Atlantis-S1 AU.
This is set after their version of the ep “Home” (the one where aliens trick them into believing they’ve Gated back to Earth), and... well, here:
[Daniel] paused, hands gripping the railing, his head now tilted down to stare into the dark water. "I think I saw through it quicker than anyone, Teyla,” he confessed quietly, “except maybe John.”
She frowned. "But you were the last to come out of your simulation.”
He gave a dark huff of laughter. "Yeah," he agreed. “But I might have been the first to realize things weren’t what they seemed. I—the SGC is—it's my home, Teyla. I know it better than any of the others, and I know the people there. They…they could palm off a fake Hammond and Walter and all the rest on the others—but they couldn't palm off fake versions of my team, my family, on me, any more than they could avoid showing them to me." A genuinely amused, though small, smile appeared then, and he actually met her eyes for a moment. "And Jack's…pretty hard to imitate, if you don't know him well."
An open Daniel was a rare thing, and Teyla was hesitant to push further. But she felt he had not yet explained what he needed to.
"So why did you not leave the dream immediately, then?" she prompted him.
He smiled again—but now the pain had returned to the expression, making it darker than the starlit night around them.
"Teyla," he said quietly, "I spent the last seven years—give or take—hating and fighting against monsters that can crawl inside human beings and possess our bodies like their own. I lost my wife to one of them, and I knew there were still some out there fighting Earth when I left." He took in a deep breath. "When I realized Jack wasn't Jack…let's just say 'it's all a dream' wasn't the first explanation that came to mind."
And then Daniel has a bit of a late-night breakdown over being a galaxy away from home and Teyla helps him talk through it. Good times.
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Everything Awesome about COIE Hour 2
STILL GEEKING OUT
We start off...by pouring one out for Oliver. RIP, Ollie, you will be dropped in a murky pit of standing water at the bottom of an abandoned mine missed!
And of course Kara wants to save EVERYONE and refuses to give up, even in the face of death and cosmic destruction.
PARAGON OF HOOOOOOOPPPPEEEEEE
“I promised my crew no more crossovers.” Oh, Sara. Sweet, naive Sara.
I also love that Lyla’s like, ‘I don’t need your crew, just one part of your ship.’
“You had me at beer.”
Speaking of Mick, we then get the BEST SCENE, which is Baby Jon interrupting the Monitor’s Weighty Exposition, and the heroes just. Passing him down the line.
That’s exactly the kind of characterization I crave, re: Lois and Clark. They’re both just like. Completely fine with 1.) Having their baby here for this Big Important Super Hero Meeting on board a space-and-time ship, 2.) are equally fine with their kid potentially interrupting the guy and 3.) they’re chill with having Heatwave babysit.
So the Paragon thing, as far as I can figure, is unique to the CW crossover, and I Dig It.
(Do I Dig It because Kara is the Paragon of Hope? Absolutely. Would I like the Paragon idea if she wasn’t? Hard to say!)
(I am Biased, I admit it.)
Anyways I just gotta type it out again: KARA ZOR-EL, PARAGON OF HOPE.
It’s what she deserves.
Ears perked up at ‘Tome of the Guardians’ b/c I wondered if that was a reference to the Guardians of the Universe, AKA, the Oans, AKA, the creators of the Green Lantern Corps.
(They were kind of a huge part of Crisis but the Arrowverse is lacking in the way of Lanterns so. WHO KNOWS.)
And then Kate’s like, ‘Who wants to meet Batman?” while the Batman theme plays and. My comic book nerd heart is just. Filled with joy.
Kara at the computer console, searching for Argo and Earth-38...
I...sad.
And then Lex comes and Kara’s ready to SMITE HIM WHERE HE STANDS but Monitor’s like, ‘No.’
(Jon Cryer continues to be an excellent Lex, he’s the kind of villain ya just LOVE to hate.)
Then a lil chat between Kate and Kara
“That’s dark even for Gotham.”
The beginnings of the Lazarus Pit field trip plot! I like that it’s centered on Sara and Mia.
(We’ll come back to that later.)
A very sweet Barry/Iris moment, nice, nice.
And then we're on Earth-99! Kara’s ‘Afraid of yard work’ line = A+
The whole front door scene is great too.
“Can I just...?” *effortlessly destroys door*
Over on Earth-75, Lois and Clark hunt for the PARAGON OF TRUTH only to discover that Lex is on the loose, murderin’ Kryptonians. 
And then we get the DEATH OF SUPERMAN REFERENCE which is EXCELLENT, in terms of nerdy easter eggs, but devastating, because a CLARK HAS DIED.
And then I *think* we’re back with Old Man Bruce? Maybe? I don’t have it written down in my notes but regardless, I’ll take a moment to express my appreciation for the fact that in CW-Land, it’s an old version of Batman that goes off the murderous deep end, not Clark! There are so many Dark Superman stories, but CW Crisis is like, ‘NOPE. Look at all these good Clarks!’
I mean, did I kind of want Kevin Conroy to be a heroic Batman? Sure. But we got Three Good Supes so I’m okay with it.
Also I enjoyed his Old Man Bruce growl-y voice, so that was good.
And then, Smallville Earth! 167, I think?
(I’ve given up trying to keep track of the designations)
I have to admit, Smallville was always a little too...’CW teen drama’ for me, so I don’t have the emotional attachment that many other fans do. I can’t really weigh in on it, from that perspective.
(I’m way more familiar with the Season 11 comic.)
But, the cameo does seem to be in line with what I’ve read about Tom Welling, who kind of always seems like he wants to be done with the show. 
So in that sense, I’m glad he’s sort of had his ending. Like Harrison Ford in Force Awakens. Minus the patricide! 
And, this is perhaps weirdly specific, but I like that this Clark has daughters!
Also enjoyed Smallville Clark punching Lex in the face.
Oh, wait, can’t forget Lois’ line! “[Or he’s] the buff guy on paper towel rolls.”
Mick soothing baby Jon with a self-published romance novel is delightful.
OOOOOH and then at the Daily Planet! The Lois and Clark theme! (Not the TV show, Lois & Clark theme, but the John Williams, Lois and Clark theme.) T’was lovely!
Back to Gotham, and Kara Danvers! In the Library! With the Glasses!
It was a grim reveal. It was great.
I like that Kara’s right, in that Bruce is not the Paragon. I worried that her mistrust would be unfounded, or that it would be like, another Lex situation, where the dude is clearly bad news, but folks shrug it off for the sake of the multiverse.
Nope. Kate is like, 1000% ready to side with Kara and let the dude fry.
(That’s dark, even for Gotham.)
(Just gonna. Try and slip that into casual conversation.)
(Also HEY Burton Batmobile under a tarp in the batcave!)
Then there’s the whole SUPES vs SUPES battle and it’s fine? It’s fine. But I like the character stuff a whole lot more.
FOR EXAMPLE: Lois’s little, “Come on Honey, you got this.” And taking Lex out with...a paperweight? I couldn’t really see. Either way, GOOD!
Also Lois and Iris getting the book and Lois saving Donner!Clark with the POWER OF LOVE!
SUPERMAN RETURNS HEAT VISION! WOO!
(So the Blue is unique to Earth-38 HMMMMMMMM. Cool.)
Alright circling back to the Lazarus Pit Field Trip!
Sara and Mia finally coming around, getting along. GOOD, YES, GOOD.
“I miss Ollie too.”
Sara giving Jonah Hex his scar.
Also they just...have Oliver’s dead body? ...O...kay....
And then they dunk him, and he’s under there for a while, and ALL SEEMS LOST until he LEAPS FORTH FROM THE WATERY DEPTHS.
Oliver, you poetic, noble land-merman.
So now they’ll have to FIGHT FOR OLIVER’S SOUL. 
Which I’m already WAY more invested in, than any fight for Lena’s
I’m sorry I’m not usually so MEAN to fictional characters but I’m so done with her and her NONSENSE.
Back on the Waverider! Ray and Clark!
Also, Lex in a cage! And he does a curtsy! It’s great.
Kara: Ray, you’re looking jacked. Clark: HE IS YOUR COUSIN.
“Huh.”
Kate was a Paragon all along! I appreciate that the Monitor is like, ‘THE MULTIVERSE IS DYING...but you needed to learn that the courage was inside you, here, have a side quest.’
Then we end on another Hope Speech from Kara but like, tailored to Kate.
“Do these things even work on you?” “Not really.”
KARA’S GONNA SAVE EARTH-38, EVEN IF IT KILLS HER...or drives her insane a la Superboy Prime but whatever, it’s fine, this is fine, it’s fine.
And then HARBINGER AND THE ANTI-MONITOR!!!!!!! Get ready for some MIND-CONTROL and BETRAYAL, Y’ALL.
In conclusion! A quieter, more ‘feelings’ heavy episode, but I liked it! I like how they integrated the cameos, and that the ‘three supers’ left in the crossover are Clark, Clark, and Kara.
And that’s it for Hour 2! I had a belated thought on Hour 1, but it’s SG specific...as in, specific to the season-long arc, not really the crossover:
I had mentioned, in my prior post, that I couldn’t stand Lena and her pettiness. (Still can’t.) BUT, I realized that it was good that Lena was a huge jerk about the whole thing, because she absolutely saved billions of lives with the portal, BUT. She behaved so badly that there’s NO WAY they can use it as a redemptive action on her part.
And also, she got the portal working thanks to Alex, so. There’s that too. 
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