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#women are not ur oppressors. lesbians r not ur oppressors
askgothamshitty · 2 months
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what r ur thoughts on "monosexual" privilege discourse bc i think it's kinda weird how ppl act like gay ppl oppress bisexuals
also "let bi women date men"
As a bi woman who is dating a man I must say that any and all “discrimination” I’ve faced from other queer people was promptly solved by logging off of the internet lol
Like, yes, there are some nasty people out there that say some nasty stuff about het-partnered bi people (particularly bi women). But this does not amount to structural, institutional, or even widespread social oppression.
I don’t see why the terms “monosexual”/“polysexual” are needed because it’s not like there’s a coherent material antagonism between bi people and non-bi people. And it actually ends up obscuring actual contradictions by grouping lesbians and gay men with straight people as if they’re the same oppressor class.
“Let bi women date men” is a classic example of how people let their niche internet spaces run their lives and forget what hegemonic culture actually says.
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cruelsister-moved2 · 1 year
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I am so tired of people here regurgitating the "the ONLY reason bisexual women don't call themselves lesbians today is because lesbians collectively kicked them out of the community"
I KNOOO its one of those things people repeat bc they heard it somewhere and don't even think abt it bc even on face value like, there's significantly more bi women than lesbians and lesbians are one of the smallest groups in the lgbt community, even assuming that lesbians somehow unanimously agreed to do this, so why would bi women not just simply continue to call themselves whatever the fuck they want. it's so frustrating bc if u ever actually spoke to a bi person you'd see that 99% pride themselves on their bisexuality and would be frustrated if they didn't have a way to proclaim it!!
it's another one of these stupid discourses that attempts to frame lesbians and bi women's interests as opposing (and lesbians as the gatekeeping oppressors naturally despite being the significantly smaller group???) but in reality most of the time it serves us both like ur equally likely to see ppl calling the 'bi lesbian' phenomenon biphobic as lesbophobic. ppl will literally say stuff that implies bisexuality is something which needs to be obfuscated or pimped up and then r like why would LESBIANS do this!!
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dykespreads · 4 years
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think imma butch bi dyke. if ur fine with sharing, what were your experiences with dykehood as a bi woman? i honestly feel really nervous but contented w dyke as a whole, i dont wanna be considered lesphobic or whatever :(
well im going to be 100% transparent with you that regardless of your intentions you will be called a lesbophobe by some people, the nature of tumblr is to paint whoever you disagree with as your oppressor and a monster and you just have to deal with that. in irl spaces it matters significantly less and nobody (at least in my experience) will question your choices. it helped me a lot because i have a lot of irl friends that are bi or lesbian or trans so everyone is pretty understanding and not quite so “if you say something i disagree with you are cancelled forever and i will make sure i convince everyone that you’re a terf” which has happened to me over dyke discourse with online tumblr “friends” despite me obviously not being a terf, given that im trans and my gf is a trans woman. but on to the point, i have reblogged a ton of cited essays and resources on bi women’s history in lesbian spaces, our impact on those spaces, our historical right on butch/femme/dyke and our current right and usage of butch/femme/dyke so if that kind of proof reassures you i definitely recommend looking through my blog. tumblr search feature is super awful so i’m sorry it’s not more accessible but you should be able to search for key terms and find it. my personal experience with dykehood comes largely from comphet, living in racist christian south, and some homophobic experiences with past girlfriends. ive always known i’ve liked girls and ive spent a long LONG time flip flopping between lesbian and bi, and lo and behold my lived reality and the way people treat me when im with a girl literally does not change at all. that leaves me to believe that it doesn’t matter. whether i personally ID as bi or lesbian does not matter because my experiences won’t change. im still in a loving committed relationship with a girl and am visibly gay. ergo im a dyke. i won’t be ashamed about it.  *and yes i am aware the dictionary definition of dyke as written by cishets says that it means lesbian. but gay marriage was also banned in the united states. does that mean that two bi women, who aren’t techincally gay men or lesbians, could marry? no stop being fucking stupid anti-wlw language has always revolved around lesbians that doesn’t mean bi women were just unfortunately caught in the cross fire. the sacred lesbian only experience doesn’t exist, unless its specifically “i identify as a lesbian”. all wlw are subject to comphet, corrective r*pe (though i may agree that it has different connotations among lesbians, i can personally say lesbians are not the only ones targeted for being “cured” of their attraction to women, and r*pe CERTAINLY does not feel better just because you hypothetically could like a man lmao get your fucking heads out of your asses), prejudice, feeling predatory, loving women, being gnc, having an estranged parent relationship, not feeling really like a true woman, confliction with gender roles, not loving men or wanting to be with men, having trauma, facing misogyny and homophobia, etc etc. literally name something and i will make a counter argument for it, because me or a bi woman i know has lived it. wlw have been going through this shit together since the dawn of time. and radical feminism and political lesbianism warped us. a lot of these arguments about bi women being available to men are misogynistic and extremely biphobic and literally ACTUAL terf rhetoric. terfs, especially terfs that are wlw, have something to gain from painting lesbians as this group that is being set in on all sides by men (and trans women), and that bi women are using their privilege by being close to men to push lesbians down, and are class traitors. tldr; people will hate you no matter what you do. bi women helped build the lesbian community before radical feminism, terfs, and political lesbianism drove bi women out of the lesbian community. we have much of a right to our terms as any other wlw and its ahistorical to say we don’t. also life is short if calling yourself a dyke connects you to your love of women nobody can tell you otherwise.
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It's the same argument because it's the accurate assessment here. For someone who thinks you have so much in common with lesbians, this behavior is more like an oppressor.
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I’m sorry I can’t deal w/ this. Bi women r not ur oppressors. It is literally impossible for bi women 2 oppress lesbians on the axis of sexuality, we r both already oppressed. That’s revealing tho that u would say that
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