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sunderedseas · 2 years
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LOTR: The Rings of Power (2022)
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tenth-sentence · 1 year
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But since the Undying Realm was forbidden to them, a great isle was set apart for them, most westerly of all mortal lands.
"The Lord of the Rings: Appendices – Appendix F" - J.R.R. Tolkien
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ecoamerica · 20 days
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none-ofthisnonsense · 2 years
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For each of the hobbits he chose a dagger, long, leaf-shaped, and keen, of marvellous workmanship, damasked with serpent-forms in red and gold. They gleamed as he drew them from their black sheaths, wrought of some strange metal, light and strong, and set with many fiery stones. Whether by some virtue in these sheaths or because of the spell that lay on the mound, the blades seemed untouched by time, unrusted, sharp, glittering in the sun.
'Old knives are long enough as swords for hobbit-people,' he said. 'Sharp blades are good to have, if Shire-folk go walking, east, south, or far away into dark and danger.' Then he told them that these blades were forged many long years ago by Men of Westernesse: they were foes of the Dark Lord, but they were overcome by the evil king of Carn Dûm in the Land of Angmar.
'Few now remember them,' Tom murmured, 'yet still some go wandering, sons of forgotten kings walking in loneliness, guarding from evil things folk that are heedless.'
Love this.
A few things:
A Necessary Step In A Tolkien Adventure Involving Hobbits, Or Alternatively, Similarities Between Bilbo And Frodo's Adventures: they both get ancient swords forged by higher beings. and both are like. stab
Tom really did "you're smol. i give you smol sword"
Is this?? Foreshadowing??!
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lotrojourney · 2 years
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I do miss the old LI system ngl. Is it grind heavy (and cumbersome to deal with see: imbuement process)? Yes it was deeply flawed fundamentally but fairly straightforward and intuitive once you get past imbuement, it’s pretty much only scrolls and crystals if you’re not concerned about being endgame raid-ready. I can’t believe i have to keep bartering and replacing legacies traceries so often and dump so many runes on them while balancing a limited amount of currency it makes my brain melt. Also i’m forever salty that they chose to remove the old LI models, they were gorgeous. 
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lucyfloyenworkshop · 8 months
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Eärendil's Light
" But on him mighty doom was laid, till Moon should fade, an orbéd star to pass, and tarry never more on Hither Shores where Mortals are; for ever still a herald on an errand that should never rest to bear his shining lamp afar, the Flammifer of Westernesse.
The Song of Eërendil, Lord of the Rings : the Fellowship of the Ring, “Many Meetings“
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tathrin · 1 month
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Okay but the Dunedáin. They've been roaming the western wilds for years and years. And then Aragorn goes off and gets himself made king of Gondor, huzzah ring the bells sound the trumpets etc.
But.
The Dunedáin. Do they all go to Gondor with him? I feel like that's the implication of things. But like...do they all want to? And if/when they do, how does it go?
(There has to be a significantly higher number of them than the 30 we see represented by the Grey Company, too, right? Like even assuming the addition of wives-elders-and-children to those numbers, there has to be a much larger population than that if they're maintaining a population. Even with intermarrying of the other locals. Like, even with Magical Noble Lineage going on to keep things from getting wonky, they can't be interbreeding that much or else everybody would be an Heir To The Throne Of Gondor by now lmao. Those 30 have to just be a fraction of their folk. The "good riders and good warriors who could be gathered on quick notice" fraction.)
Is everybody excited to leave their lowkey wilderness-with-the-occasional-vacation-in-Rivendell existence in favor of the Fancy Shiny White City Full Of Other Humans? The Dunedáin have been living like this for hundreds and hundreds of years. It's not just a "we spent a few decades in exile, but taught our kids Our Ways to preserve them, so they'd be comfortable when they went home" situation. They've been living like this for so long that this is their way of life. This is their home. And now they're supposed to just pack-up and go to Gondor and be fine?
And how do the Gondorians react to having not just a new king, but a new king who brings along a whole bunch of scruffy Rangers for his retinue? Are they welcomed eagerly by a people who've just endured great loss of life and need hands to help them rebuild? I mean tbf probably at first, sure; but how long does that welcome endure without starting to cool when these Rangers prove to be not just Gondorians From Elsewhere Who Nonetheless Act Just Like The Rest Of Us And Know Our City And Its Ways As Well As We Do? Because they don't! They don't even know which hall is used for banquets and which for dancing! They don't know that on Aldëa we wear carnë! and so on.
(Do they all just go to Ithilien with Faramir out of sheer what-the-fuck-am-I-going-to-do-in-this-bigass-city-ness?)
Yes they're all of the Blood of Westernesse and all that, shared Numenorian heritage blah blah blah...but imagine you've been living off-the-grid in the forests of Pennsylvania, and all of a sudden you're dropped in the middle of NYC and told this is your home now, enjoy? How weird would that be? How bizarre, how overwhelming?
Maybe you like it, maybe you thrive there! Maybe you find that Gondorian Civilization is what you've been looking for all along! But what if you don't? What if you find you really hate crowds, and the politics of the city are stifling, and you didn't spend the last seventy years travelling all over Middle-earth learning everybody's ways and culture, thanks, and frankly you'd rather be back in Bree making small-talk with simple farmers and Hobbits, where everybody knows your (nick)name and you're comfortable? Even if you do like it, even if this is All Your Hopes Come True, it's still got to be enormously disruptive. And if you don't...yikes.
(Again, sure, there's Ithilien. But even though that wild-land-recovering-from-the-scars-of-the-Enemy would be more familiar ground to you than the city itself, and Faramir is a great guy and all, Ithilien still isn't your home.)
Like...you don't get to just go back, do you? (Do you?) Maybe but even if you do, even if some of them did, their way of life is still kind of broken; because most of your fellow Rangers are in Gondor now, and you aren't even allowed into the Shire, and the Enemy you've been guarding folks from all this time is gone...
And sure, it's good! This is a good result! This is the Best Case Scenario Ending, really!
But still. What about the Dunedáin?
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ettelenethelien · 5 days
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When was the last time someone mistook Elrond for Elros? People probably did during his visits to Númenor while the latter yet lived -- but even in Lindon, someone must have mistakenly said the wrong name by accident. It must have still happened sometimes after the other's death?
I like to think (read: I like to torment Elrond) that there was an elf who left to explore Eriador around S.A. 1, never really understood about Númenor and the choice of the Peredhil, and returned to Lindon five hundred years later. Tar-Amandil was King in Westernesse.
It would probably be the last time someone called Elrond Elros as a serious mistake.
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tanoraqui · 1 year
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I COMPLETELY FORGOT A VERY IMPORTANT PART OF CROWNLESS (the Young Aragorn show that lives in my, and apparently many of your, hearts): Each season opens with the framing device of middle-aged Sam Gamgee sitting by the fire in Bag End, telling his kids stories about the King. If you don’t have a (historical inaccuracy-excusing) narrative frame in a Middle Earth story, wtf are you even doing?
Also, the theme song in my mind is "All That Is Gold Does Not Glitter" by Clamavi de Profundis, but I'm open to some other group doing their own arrangement of the poem.
so, key elements of season 3 (s1 and 2 here):
A couple times in s2, including notably in the season finale?, Rohirrim were involved…so at the very end of that season, King Thengel invited Aragorn to come serve in his court/armed forces. That’s right, it’s time for UNMITIGATED HORSE GIRL!ARAGORN HOURS!
(confession: I could be persuaded to combine s2 and s3, with some elements of s3 going into s4)
(and clarification: Aragorn isn't deliberately using a false name, but he's also not presenting himself as anything more than a random northern Dúnedain ranger, son of nobody in particular.)
The show starts to shift in this season: in addition to/in place of some monster of the week episodes, we get political drama of the week, and more ongoing plotlines. Also, I realized it’s as much ‘location of the week’ as ‘monster of the week’—that continues, centered around Rohan (which means we’ll retread some locations from s2)
First trip to Minas Tirith, on some diplomatic excursion!
fun canon LotR info: Thengel, Theoden's father, was a total Gondor stan - he lived there from his teens until he had to come home to take up the crown, he married a woman from Lossarnach, as King of Rohan he spoke Sindarin and Westernesse and not Rohirric...
so I'm gonna say that teenage Theoden is kind of resentful of that? He was born in Lossarnach, came to Rohan at age 5...but Rohan is his home and he loves it, and he wonders if his father is too enamored of Gondor to be the best king of Rohan. He's skeptical of Thengel recruiting this random Ranger to be a captain of the Riders. On the flip side, Aragorn is SO COOL, and superb with horses. and Theoden wants to be him when he grows up. It's hard, being a teenager and a prince, with 4 sisters. It's hard and nobody understands
Sauruman is there for an episode, being genuinely helpful but his vibes are faintly rancid. He's about to start building up Isengard as an armed power. If the season finale involves something like a proper battle again, he might pitch in.
Halbarad and Dúnawen might actually stay in Ithilien? Or they come along to Rohan but they just join the Riders without getting involved in court stuff at all. Aragorn is going to start doing more things on his own. They presumably have their own B/C-plot character arcs btw, I just don't know what
Roddis definitely stayed behind in Ithilien/Gondor. New in the cast, however, not from quite the start but maybe like ep7/22, or the midseason onward? Is a perfectly normal human woman with dark hair and grey eyes...
Arwen. It's Arwen.
Aragorn: Why are you here? Arwen: I am the daughter of Elrond Half-Elven. My grandparents include the Evening Star, White-Winged Elwing, and Galadriel, student of Melian who on separate occasions told both Fëanor and Eonwë to fuck off. Everyone who met her agrees that I look just like my great-great-grandmother Lúthien Tinúviel. The distant echo of the Doom of the Exiles runs in my veins, as do the Songs of Lúthien and the Light of a Silmaril. I know the weight of Fate when it settles on my shoulders like a mantle, as it did when you called me 'Tinúviel' beneath Imladris's twilit trees—but the Choice of the Peredhel remains mine and mine alone. So I have come, Elessar, Isildur's heir, to see if I actually like you. Arwen: Curiosity. Aragorn: [vividly remembering how in s1 his mom said, "She's way out of your league" and Elrond said, "You won't get married until you're king." (Aragorn: "...married to your daughter?" Elrond: "To anyone. Period.")] Aragorn: Cool. Curiosity is cool. I'm gonna be so normal about this.
(Spoilers: he was not entirely normal about this.)
(Spoilers: they super do like each other, though)
Idk what the backup rangers are doing overall, but I do want Aragorn and Dúnawen to still have some sort of romantic Thing in s2, maybe off and on again, as Aragorn thought Arwen wasn't interested and was trying not to just be moping about it... Then Arwen arrives and Aragorn is So Conflicted for like 1 episode, before Dúnawen comes to him like, "Aragorn, I love you as a friend and comrade-in-arms and I love you as my chieftain and king-to-be, and I could probably love you as a wife if we really tried...but you clearly have not just a crush but some sort of Destiny thing with Lady Arwen, so I'm going to go back to Ithilien for a bit, maybe get drunk and laid with a handsome barmaid, and get over you. While I'm gone, you should try, like, talking to her."
A thing that Aragorn and Arwen...do bond over, but more it's there to demonstrate their compatibility to the audience, is: ...So, we (the writers/producers) don't have the rights to The Silmarillion, right, just The Lord of the Rings and its Appendices, and The Hobbit. These do periodically namedrop people, however, with dashes of elaboration mostly in the Appendices...and Aragorn is established from the start to be a bit of a history nerd, because that's what happens when you're raised by Elrond...so periodically, Aragorn and his friends will be in a Situation and Aragorn will whisper, like, "This is just like when [Fëanor/Túrin/Tar-Minastir/etc...]—" and Halbarad or Dúnawen hisses, "Does that actually help us right now?" and Aragorn will say, "Sure!" and start doing something that Silmarillion nerds can recognize is inspired by whatever the person in question did in a similar situation (note: sometimes Aragorn deliberately does the opposite of what the historical figure did, and it works much better.) The writers very carefully do not explicitly reference anything not explicitly in the permitted texts. If they need/get to elaborate on a historical figure, they'll toe a careful line of Silmarillion canon and blatantly made-up things.
That happened more in s1, when the show needed to make good with the old fans, but also in s2. Aragorn remains the only one referencing this stuff. Then in s3, he and Arwen are...let's say captured by bandits, and Arwen murmurs in his ear, "I have an idea. You know in the Lay of Lúthien..." Aragorn's eyes widen. "Beren and Lúthien or Beren and Finrod?" Arwen: "Finrod." Aragorn nods, and they proceed to bullshit their way out of being captive with flawless teamwork and yes-and-ing (and maybe fight a wolf on their way out, just to be thorough).
No idea what this season finale is. Like I said, you could probably weave parts of most of this season into s2 and s4? But that would ruin the "a different significant geographical area every season" thing we've got going on.
[s4 here!]
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middle-earth meme: [1/5] anything → númenor
And setting their course towards it the Edain came at last over leagues of sea and saw afar the land that was prepared for them, Andor, the Land of Gift, shimmering in a golden haze. Then they went up out of the sea and found a country fair and fruitful, and they were glad. And they called that land Elenna, which is Starwards; but also Anadûnë, which is Westernesse, Númenórë in the High Eldarin tongue.
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mathomgiver · 1 year
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And over Middle-earth he passed
and heard at last the weeping sore
of women and of elven-maids
in Elder Days, in years of yore.
But on him mighty doom was laid,
till Moon should fade, an orbéd star
to pass, and tarry never more
on Hither Shores where Mortals are;
for ever still a herald on
an errand that should never rest
to bear his shining lamp afar,
the Flammifer of Westernesse.
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sillylotrpolls · 9 months
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(Relevant reading below the poll)
From the glossary of the Silmarillion:
Elf-friends - The Men of the Three Houses of Bëor, Haleth, and Hador, the Edain. In the Akallabêth and in Of the Rings of Power used of those Númenóreans who were not estranged from the Eldar; see Elendili.
From The Fellowship of the Ring:
'Courage is found in unlikely places,' said Gildor. 'Be of good hope! Sleep now! In the morning we shall have gone; but we will send our messages through the lands. The Wandering Companies shall know of your journey, and those that have power for good shall be on the watch. I name you Elf-friend; and may the stars shine upon the end of your road! Seldom have we had such delight in strangers, and it is fair to hear words of the Ancient Speech from the lips of other wanderers in the world.'
Suddenly he stopped and stammered, overcome with surprise to hear himself saying such things. But Goldberry laughed. 'Welcome!' she said. 'I had not heard that folk of the Shire were so sweet-tongued. But I see you are an elf-friend; the light in your eyes and the ring in your voice tells it. This is a merry meeting! Sit now, and wait for the Master of the house! He will not be long. He is tending your tired beasts.'
'How many are you?' 'Eight,' said Legolas. Myself, four hobbits; and two men, one of whom, Aragorn, is an Elf-friend of the folk of Westernesse.'
From the appendices of Return of the King:
Gimli Glóin's son is renowned, for he was one of the Nine Walkers that set out with the Ring; and he remained in the company of King Elessar throughout the War. He was named Elf-friend because of the great love that grew between him and Legolas, son of King Thranduil, and because of his reverence for the Lady Galadriel.
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phoenixrisesoncemore · 10 months
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Numenor, the Mighty and Frail
This Sunday The Tolkien Society (UK) is hosting an online seminar with the theme of ‘Numenor, the Mighty and Frail.’ Panels will begin at 6:30am EDT and last through early afternoon EDT. Each presentation has a 30 min slot and there are two 30 min breaks.
This seminar is FREE to attend. Go to: tolkiensociety(dot)org/events/seminar-2023/
Several of the scholars presenting on Sunday are people I know and who I know do very strong work (I’ve also gotten to see drafts or alternate versions of a few of these papers and am very excited to see the finished products!)
The Tolkien Society is also organizing another upcoming seminar, “Tolkien and Religion in the Twenty-first Century,” taking place in November of this year.
Presenting scholars and presentation titles for “Numenor, the Mighty and Frail” are below.
Putri Prihatini, “Sea Goddess Worship and the Power of the King: Parallel between Aldarion, Uinen, Mataram Sultanate, and Javanese “Queen of the Southern Sea””
Irina Metzler, “Dealing with the Dead: Nuances of ancient Egypt and medieval theology in Númenor”
Advait Praturi, “Darkness Alone is Worshipful: Discovering A Númenórean Theological Anthropology of Worship”
S.R. Westvik, ““I often dream of it”: Trauma and memory in the legacy of the Downfall of Númenor”
Sara Brown, ““Foretasting Death in Life”: Desire, the Fall, and Attempting to Return the ‘Gift’ of Ilúvatar”
Journeé Cotton, “‘All roads are now bent’: Ethical readings of the corporeality of Númenor”
Alpaslan Tandırcı, “Ecology of Imperialism: Environmental History for Númenor”
Erik Jampa Andersson, “The Akallabêth and the Anthropocene: Myth, Ecology, and the Changing of the Earth”
Kristine Larsen, “Monstrous (Im)mortality: Transhumanism and Ecocriticism in ‘Akallabêth’”
Tom Emanuel, “‘By the Waters of Anduin We Lay Down and Wept’: Exilic Theology in the Akallabêth”
Chris Vaccaro, “‘And Númenor went down into the Sea’: the pleasure of self-dissolution and the masochistic jouissance of Westernesse”
Mercury Natis, “Seducer-Destroyer: Sauron’s Femme Fatale Sources and Their Role in the Númenor Narrative”
Clare Moore, “Elmar, the Experience of Captured Women, and Empires in Decline”
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thelordofgifs · 1 year
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For the fic prompt explore some third age mannish politics?
Aahhh this is kind of scary BUT about time I tried it I suppose!
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The King was dying.
The murmurs ran through the streets of Osgiliath, pooling in the taverns and the markets, growing dark and foul in the hidden corners of discontent. Rómendacil II was two hundred and forty years old, but he had always been a man of great vigour, both bodily and spiritually. There had been some who had hoped he would pass three centuries.
"Do none of them ever read?" Lossiel asked irritably. "This is why Númenor fell. All those ancient kings more obsessed with their own mortality than with the actual business of ruling."
"Keep your voice down," Eldacar implored.
His sister tossed her head. "It is true, is it not? For all their preoccupation with being true-blooded Men of Westernesse, they seem to have learned remarkably little from the Downfall."
"Your scholarship is unparalleled, as always, lady," came a deep voice from behind them. Their father's cousin, Urumacil, made a small, ironic bow.
"Princess," Lossiel corrected pertly. "The correct title for the King's daughter is 'princess'."
"Lossiel," Eldacar muttered. Their father was not yet the King, after all.
But Urumacil merely smiled. "Of course, lady," he said. "If you will excuse us. I wish for a word with your brother."
"It will have to be a very quick word, Lord Urumacil," said Eldacar. "My father will have need of me soon."
"A loyal son indeed," said Urumacil, as Lossiel slipped away to the other side of the busy receiving-room with a last pointed glare. "Your father will be very lucky to have you as his heir."
Eldacar managed a sharp-toothed smile. In his sister's absence he must produce his own well-sharpened claws. "My father values my counsel dearer than gold," he agreed. "But I am not to be only his son, you know; to be Crown Prince is to be loved as a son by all of Gondor. To give my life in the service of my country."
"An admirable ambition," said Urumacil, smiling too, "as long as you are quite certain which country you call your own."
Eldacar had left Rhovanion when he was five years old. Would this never end?
"I daresay," he said mildly, "when the crown of Gondor rests on my head, it will be difficult to forget."
Urumacil bowed again. "Let us not wish for your dear father's passing on this, the very day of his ascension!" he said. "You are, after all, a loyal son."
"Quite," Eldacar said. He was growing bored with the conversation, and also restless. Would his grandfather summon him before the end – his grandfather, who loved his son and heir deeply and had never truly warmed to the wife and children he had brought home to Rhovanion? If he did, would he make some fretful remark about whether or not Eldacar would outlive his father?
"A loyal son," Urumacil repeated, sounding amused. "You are not well acquainted with my own dear Castamir, are you?"
"Not really," said Eldacar, "although I am told he is making quite the name for himself in Pelargir."
"Indeed he is," said Urumacil. "In fifty years or so I have high hopes that he will ascend even to becoming Captain of the Ships."
"Fifty years!" said Eldacar. "Surely, if he is as talented as you say, he might manage it sooner than that."
Urumacil smiled. "Why hurry? We have plenty of time." He looked Eldacar in the eye. "Or, I suppose, most of us do."
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keldae · 5 months
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Geeky musings of the day: In the LOTR books, Numenoreans and their pure blooded descendants are described as being able to discern the hearts and minds of other men, or to a limited degree, discern events happening far away. This is a trait that still shows itself in some Men in the War of the Ring, with Aragorn, Denethor, Imrahil, and Faramir being noted as having this ability. Faramir is also described as being an individual who can gain and command the love and influence of people very easily, as can Aragorn -- as well, Aragorn is a skilled healer (something something "hands of the king") and neither would have survived long as Dunedain Rangers without very good instincts, ie when to duck, when to hide, and very, very good aim.
Headcanon theory: Numenoreans are/were Force Sensitive, and those spoken of as having "the blood of Westernesse" still displayed those Force-using traits. Aragorn and Faramir could have been Jedi!
Discuss.
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leaves-of-laurelin · 2 years
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And setting their course towards it the Edain came at last over leagues of sea and saw afar the land that was prepared for them, Andor, the Land of Gift, shimmering in a golden haze. Then they went up out of the sea and found a country fair and fruitful, and they were glad. And they called that land Elenna, which is Starwards; but also Anadûnê, which is Westernesse, Númenórë in the High Eldarin tongue.
Akallabêth
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