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nixthelapin · 6 months
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The Re-Verse characters changing their costumes at the end:
Toxinelle: I completely redesigned myself to show how much I’ve changed as a person 😊
Griffe Noire: ok I changed my hair and eye color, but nothing else, I’m perfect 😏✨
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fandomnerd9602 · 1 year
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Wonder Woman X Villain Y/n
Diana: acts of vandalism? Jay walking?what kind of villain are you?
Y/N: one hoping you’d notice them
Diana: mmm you are cute.
She slaps handcuffs on them
Y/N: Aww I didn’t think it was worth going to jail
Diana: I’m not taking you to jail
Diana winks and flies away with Y/N in her arms…all the way to her apartment
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keishara-korianthil · 4 months
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Trollhunters Villain Redemption
I'm not convinced about Strickler's redemption. Don't get me wrong, I love redemptions arcs, but I think that his could have been much better. I mean, I understand that he fell in love with Barbara (and I like Stricklake) but I wanted him to redeem because of Jim, not her. I think that the father-son relationship of Strickler/Jim was very slight. I don't dislike the father-son relationship of Blinky/Jim. But the bond between Strickler and Jim is more... I don't know, special to me. Maybe because Jim considered him a father even before the show, or maybe because after everything they went through, Strickler sacrifice his life for him, but I think that we didn't have enough scenes between Strickler and Jim. And I wanted him to change thanks to the affection that he felt for Jim, not for the love that the felt for Barbara.
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tragicbeauty1991 · 5 months
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Today I got called a “murder apologist” (and other not so nice names) by someone who apparently does not like the fact that I love a good villain redemption arc. Let me explain a few things…
First off, welcome to my blog. We believe in the inherent goodness of humanity here. We believe in love and forgiveness and that people can change. We believe in kindness over bitterness, in hope over despair, and in reconciliation over revenge. And if that’s not your thing, maybe this isn’t the best blog for you to check out. And that’s okay. People are allowed to have different opinions.
Second… We recognize that there is a difference between fiction and reality. Just because I like a character and want to see them come around to the side of good does not mean that I approve of any or all of their actions. Murder is bad, kids. I think we can all agree on that point. I don’t support the character’s evil deeds. I support the idea of them working through the reasons they got to the point of doing them and then coming out on the other side of it as a better person who wants to try to make up for their past. I also recognize that there is a distinct difference between a fictional villain and a real-life serial killer in jail. I’m not that person who’s gonna be caught sending love letters to violent men in prison. I am, however, fascinated by them and am the kind of person who will listen to podcasts and watch documentaries that investigate the psychology of such people. I like to see what makes people do the things they do and I firmly believe that in the vast majority of cases, there is more than a little bit of nurture lacking in the “nature or nurture” cause of evil. People aren’t born evil. Learning how and why they became teaches empathy. And yes, I can empathize with them and still think they’re a terrible person. Maybe I’m naive, but I think the world can use more empathy, and I’d rather be a little too kind to someone who might not deserve it than bring more hatred into the world. Real people often don’t change their ways, but it does happen. And fiction allows a safe environment for us to play around with that idea.
Third… In the words of Wonder Woman, “It’s not about deserve.” Do I think these characters who have done awful, horrible things deserve to be redeemed? Probably not. But that’s the thing about grace and mercy…they are inherently undeserved gifts. And that doesn’t mean you don’t set boundaries. It doesn’t mean you put up with abuse. It doesn’t mean that actions don’t have legal or emotional or financial consequences and everything is automatically all rainbows and butterflies. Forgiveness isn’t a feeling. It’s a choice. It’s choosing to allow the legal system (and God, if you believe in Him) to do its work and taking yourself out of the equation in terms of offering vengeance. It’s not allowing yourself to get walked all over, but it’s also choosing not to go walking all over your enemy when you have the chance. Also…redemption isn’t something that happens overnight. It’s hard work. It’s a long process of the person slowly coming to realize that they were in the wrong, grieving deeply over the wrongs that they have done, and doing the best they can to make up for it by living a different sort of lifestyle. It’s not a single choice to do one good thing. It’s a million little choices to do the right thing instead of the easy thing over and over and over again. It’s stumbling along the way and making mistakes and getting back up and trying again. It’s learning to control anger and to accept that love and friendship and fear and heartbreak aren’t weakness. It’s learning to put others before themselves when before they only ever had to worry about looking out for Number One. To use a recent quote from the Loki series, “Raze it to the ground. That’s easy. Starting over is hard. Hope… Hope is hard.” Redemption doesn’t always mean a totally happy ending. It means becoming a better person, and there is often a lot of pain involved.
Finally, I’d like to conclude with the words I once heard from an Orthodox priest that really stuck with me and which I think are especially relevant to how I approach my thinking in both fictional villains and my actual fellow human beings… “Other sinful human beings are not the enemy. They are slaves of The Enemy. And you don’t hurt your enemy’s slaves. You try to set them free.”
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bethhiraeth · 2 years
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I think one of the reasons I love Steve's storyline so much is that they didn't kill him off like they had planned in S1! Like, he really was a very shitty person in the beginning, but instead of some heroic sacrifice that redeemed him for everything, he was forced to grow up, to ask for forgiveness from those he had wronged.
I have always had a problem with most 'villain redemption arcs' because 99% of them end with the villain/shitty person making the right decision in the end, and automatically being forgiven.
Like, think about Billy. Sure, he had trauma and was a complicated person, but he made Max's life hell. He broke her stuff, yelled at her, and I even got the impression he may have hurt her in the past. But all that was forgiven by everyone when he made one decision to sacrifice himself! Now, I am not saying that he didn't make the right decision, but I would have liked it so much more if he had had to make the right decision, but also lived so that he could fix his relationships, particularly with Max.
We see this time and time again in literature and television/movies. Think about it. Luke and Ethan from Percy Jackson. Darth Vader. Loki. Kylo Ren. CAN YOU SAY SNAPE!! The list goes on.
Because redemption arcs are not about erasing the past. They are about asking for forgiveness, making amends, and realising the wrong you have done. A character's past mistakes will always be there. But in my opinion, death is the easy way out in these situations.
TL;DR: Steve is awesome because he didn't just up and die when he realised he was a shitty person. He worked at asking for forgiveness and changing his behaviour, unlike some people (*cough cough* Snape). Also, writers, PLEASE STOP WRITING REDEMPTION ARCS LIKE THIS!
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class1akids · 1 year
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apparently teaching people to forgive and grow as individuals is the worst lesson we can teach now a days 🙄
I think saving does not even necessarily means forgiveness. When Deku saves Gentle's spirit, he's still put into jail.
I think it's the willingness to reach out, to try to empathise with people who felt rejected all their lives, to try to make them feel seen and understood and valuable. To have someone believe in their humanity and capacity to do good.
Deku's origin shows us how incredibly important it is to have someone reinforce a dream. "You can be a hero too" really helps Deku connect to his hero aspirations on a deeper level and releases incredible amount of energy and motivation.
I don't think the hero kids can offer their LoV counterpart forgiveness in everyone's name, and I don't think the LoV trio is seeking for that. What they can do is reach out, make them feel seen and understood and offer a hand or encouragement to do the right thing - not for a reward or promise of forgiveness, but simply because they see goodness in their hearts and appeal to that.
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garr9988 · 1 year
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Something that's always bothered me when talking about villain redemptions, specifically the idea of "people don't need to forgive them for them to be allowed to be redeemed" and such is a specific scenario of, say, an evil dictator/supervillain/high profile person (such as the Diamonds from SU, among others). That they can (and certainly should, imo) be allowed to live on and find their own happiness and even find ways to help undo the harm they caused.
But, you know. Having positive connections and relationships with other people is a huge part of having a good life, and is certainly some kind of motivation to keep helping others, to stay good and redeemed. But if you were known (and resented) by enough people (a whole country, kingdom, planet) and nobody forgives you... what are supposed to do?
If nobody wants to be your friend, wants you around them, wants your help, what's left for you then? Do you just remove yourself from society and live as a hermit for the rest of your miserable lonely life? Is a life without friendship and forgiveness one even worth living at that point? Why bother going on if no one can find it in themselves to like you even after you saw the error of your ways? At best, what's there to motivate you to not hurt people anymore if it doesn't matter to anyone that you don't hurt people anymore?
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leclecarchie · 2 years
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karlcraft · 1 year
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The villain has no where else to go and finds themselves on the hero's door step.
The rain falls down harder than Rue ever thought it could. Half drenched in blood and half drenched in rain they doubt they’ll ever feel clean or dry again no matter how many showers they take or how sunny the weather is.
The path is barely trod covered in roots and thorns thought it doesn’t matter
With a shaking hand they raise their fist to rasp on the door, once, twice and hesitate before a third time. Conventions have it that knocking should be a thing done twice over and stopped until an answer has headed your call but conventions do also have it that when looking for help you don’t find it in the hands of your worst enemy.
The door opens slowly, cracks of light shine out onto the dirt road from inside the wooden hut. A small glimpse of hope as the eye of Rue’s only chance looks down at them. Expressions are often hard to read when only a sliver is available to be viewed but the expression was clear. For a flickering moment it was confusion or maybe something akin to curiosity as the person behind the door attempted to decloak Rue with their gaze alone. All too quickly those unjudging eyes took on a harsh tone of surprise only to fall to the hands of hatred and anger.
‘Please’ Rue starts to say but all that comes out is a small whimper unbefitting of their own mouth. A sword is at their throat before they can even blink after their show of weakness and in that moment Rue is so sure that being slain on the spot would be a mercy. “I have nowhere else to turn” They mutter through a shaky and desperate voice.
“Then turn towards your god” The feminine voice seethed with such rage it felt like it could sear all of Rue’s wounds shut. “Surely if your actions are just as you’ve been claiming all these years you’ll find everything you’ve been looking for in whatever after life lays before you” The others face seemed to grow darker than the night time around them, not even the light behind the door illuminating a single part of their face only the glimmer of hatred in their eye was visible “And if your deity deems you unfit you will still find a more fair bargain than anything I would EVER offer you.”
Rue trembled at their feet. pleas attempting to fall out of their lips like a waterfall only to find their dam of words had run dry. “Go.” The voice says in one last act of spite “If you think I would grant you a painful death you are more delirious than I ever thought. Let the wild take you to your demise and may your soul forever rot so that you may feel a singular fraction of what you have done to me.”
This is the first draft of the prologue of a book i wanna write about a villain trying to seek redemption! :D I thought i'd post it here to see if anyone liked it at all or had any tips, i'm still really new to tumblr so sorry if I formatted anything wrong or smth.
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Name some villains who were saved / redeemed. Got to keep living at the end of the series. I wanna see something
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Tomura shouldn’t have redemption by death. Not only would it fall into the same “encouraging suicide for characters who are very clearly mentally ill and already self-harming,” “no responsibility given for the villain’s actions,” “communicating that at a point you stop being human when you do bad things I personally don’t like” problems, but there’s something else I feel needs to be said.
A sacrifice arc, even one that doesn’t fall into those three issues above, doesn’t work for Tomura. It wouldn’t teach him anything, it wouldn’t solve the problems he caused, and it certainly wouldn’t help solve the glaring systemic rot that caused him to become evil in the first place.
Tomura WANTS to save people. He WANTS to be a hero. Did we all forget how he infiltrated the mafia - a very risky mission for his crew with a high chance of death - to avenge Magne and Compress? Did we ignore how he threw himself into a hopeless battle to save his broker of all people? How he bullied Re-Destro in large part due to how he messed with Twice’s emotions? How he tenderly said he believed in Toga and Twice during the Overhaul arc, how he used to play games with Spinner? Did all that just fly out the window?
Tomura’s problem isn’t that he’s selfish, at least not any more selfish than the average person. His problem is that he’s so broken that he thinks that he can’t be fixed. His only option is to use his Quirk to destroy because all the voices in his head - Kotaro’s, Hana’s, All For One’s, the Doctor’s, and even noble heroes like Gran Torino and Endeavor - have said is that he’s a destroyer and he has to die. He doesn’t go for community service to make the world a better place because no one has ever believed in him to be good. And thus, he destroys, because at least you can use rubble to rebuild society so it won’t remind you what a mistake you are for existing.
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palominodragon · 3 months
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I am sure I've said this before, but man, TROS makes KOTFE and KOTET so much better.
At least the SWTOR writers understand the appeal of living redemption.
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mothchildd · 1 year
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*does a double backflip* hey so remember that one thing i did
well. um.
*cartwheels away*
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keishara-korianthil · 4 months
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Multifandom Villains Redemption
“Villain redemption”. Something that causes a lot of arguments. There are people that think it is overused and hate it, but there are people who believe that there aren’t many redemption arcs in the media. Well, here is my opinion about it.
People feel guilty because of what they did to other persons? People hate themselves for hurting anyone? People have nightmares because of what they did? People sacrifice themselves to save the ones who fought against them in the past? Oh no! How bad! It's so disgusting! How can anybody feel sorry for their bad actions?
Seriously, what’s wrong with the people that don’t like redemption arcs? As if it were bad to acknowledge that what you did was wrong. As if it were bad to recognize that you hurt someone with your actions and you feel sorry for that.
To the ones that say "But they didn't deserve a redemption 😭😭😭😭", I tell you, again, what's wrong with you? It's not about "deserving" a redemption. It's about knowing that what you did was wrong. It's about feeling sorry for your bad actions. It's about making amends for your bad actions. A "redemption arc" has never been about "deserving it or don't".
And the ones that say something like “Let evil people be evil”, I’ve got something to tell you too: Aren’t enough bad/evil people in the real world who don’t have one single chance to redeem themselves? There are people that wants to believe in the innate goodness in fiction (that everyone, even the villains, can be good or is good on the inside), so let them at least enjoy that, since in reality many persons aren’t inherently good.
We want to see a person change.
We want to see a bad person change sides.
We want to see a bad person/villain turn into a good person/hero.
We want to see a villain that isn’t pure evil.
We want to see the development of a character that switches from evil to good.
We want to see a villain fighting side by side with the hero.
We want to see a villain turning into a hero and living a happy life.
IT ISN’T BAD THAT VILLAINS REDEEM THEMSELVES AND CHANGE FOR THE BETTER! AND PEOPLE SHOULD ACCEPT, RESPECT, AND SUPPORT THAT!
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tragicbeauty1991 · 2 months
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You ever have a character that you’re deeply in love with but like…platonically? Like you want to adopt them like a stray cat or dog that clearly has had a rough life and whose instinct is to bite first and ask questions later. “I want to take this broken old man home and wrap him in a blanket, give him a hot cup of tea, and set him up with a good therapist.” Yeah….
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ad-write-it · 5 months
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"Villain sent to infiltrate hero group eventually joins them because love and friendship" is an awesome trope and can lead to a LOT of touching, heartwarming stories.
HOWEVER,
And hear me out on this,
"Villain joins heroes out of sheer curiosity and only becomes good for practical reasons."
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