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#tyk chapter 77
bluemorningsoup · 10 months
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PSA: There is an English translation of Tian Ya Ke on Wattpad that purports to be an original translation but is in fact stolen from pre-existing fan translations.
For fans of and people interested in 天涯客/Tian Ya Ke/Faraway Wanderers by Priest, please note that the “translation” hosted on Wattpad by shuxingx is stolen work and not, in fact, their own work. It also features stolen fan arts.
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Original translations:
Ch. 1-30 — Sparkling Water
Ch. 31-67 — wenbuxing
Ch. 68-Extras — Chichi
What I find more damning is that they “edited” the first few chapters of wenbuxing’s translation (read: made everything sound awkward and added a bunch of typos) to make it “resemble” Sparkling Water’s and had the gall to append this note. Later chapters are wenbuxing wholesale.
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(“Chinese ain’t an easy language… Stealing is so much easier!”)
Available fan translations of TYK:
Lianzi (ongoing, recommended)
Kexingzishu (all 5 extras, recommended)
Chichi (77 chapters + 4 extras, missing Extra 5)
Sparkling Water (Ch. 1-30, dropped)
Xuxunette (Ch. 1-67, hiatus)
Wenbuxing’s translation is no longer available.
As of writing, TYK is locked and not available for purchase on JJWXC.
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verycharismaticdragon · 6 months
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Hi lovely! I recently got into cdramas and have fallen in love with Word of Honor. I have read your meta post on the original novel and would greatly appreciate it if you were to provide me with the link to the tyk novel if you have it.
Hey there! Sure thing. There are several translations around, but sadly one of the best ones seems to have been deleted/locked, so here's my current recommendation:
Start w/ chapters 1-29 from lianzi (their tl is the best of the ones currently around)
Read chapters 30-77 from chichi (technically they have a full tl of the main text, but i prefer lianzi's)
Finish with 5 extras from kexingzishu (chichi also has some extras tl'ed, but! kexingzishu's doc has the 5th extra thats not translated anywhere else!)
Additionally: TYK is actually the second book in a series, with the first being Qi Ye / Lord Seventh. Translation of Qi Ye can be found here. The protagonist of this one is Jing Beiyuan, while Zhou Zishu is a prominent side character. Now uh whether to start with Qi Ye, esp coming from watching the show...
Basically, starting w/ Qi Ye: pros: you will actually know the correct backstory for TYK Zhou Zishu and not expect the beats from the show that will never come (eg 81 dead sect members); you will have a coherent picture of thematic framework of both novels together; you'll be able to appreciate the cameos in TYK fully. cons: i have seen show-first people run out of Qi Ye screaming that their poor little meow meow would never over the first atrocity Zhou Zishu commits; it's more political drama than wuxia, so if you prefer the latter, it can be a bit boring.
starting with TYK: pros: a little less heavy, or at least slightly more comedic, than Qi Ye - so an easier read; Zhou Zishu is more chill due to being retired, so you can slowly get used to his amoral villain-of-another-story ways instead of being slapped in the face with that one plot point; the best character (Wen Kexing) is there. cons: everything you saw in the show will actively hinder your understanding of the characters and themes; you will have to contend with Zhou Zishu's lying ass unreliable narration; you will miss some implications, esp of the scenes with Jing Beiyuan.
So uh, this is all I can tell you. Up to you where to start!
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Excuse me I gotta go sob for a bit, it’s so soft and they’re so in love. 
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emmareadsmdzs · 2 years
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Rude of this book to make the attractive shoulder blades thing sad
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worldsendgirlfriend · 3 years
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i spent 5+ hours compiling the 3 available tyk tls (all for separate parts-- together they cover the whole novel and extras tho) this morning bc i want to make an epub i can have for easy reading/to share w friends if they want to read it (bc its really short for a cnovel, its even shorter than sv), and between making sure each footnote has its own number then adding all the footnotes to their own separate page and fixing messed up formatting like misplaced (like spaced wrong i mean) semicolons, small typos and missing italics etc, it is taking. very long. i am on chapter 47 of 77 + 5 extras.
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tyk!wen kexing: throws the key off a mountain shl!wen kexing: throws himself off a mountain. Me: ah, a metaphor. 
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worthlessness of power as one of TYK’s central themes:
those who seek it do not obtain it, and those who have it do not want it.
A while ago, I wrote a bit of meta about the value of love as one of the central themes in TYK. Today, the stars were finally in postion for me to follow it up.
Among secondary characters of Tian Ya Ke, those who grab for power – whether it’s societal authority, superb martial techniques, or both – are many. All have their own reasons; all set their sights on Lapis Armor once word of it gets around. In the narrative, the Armor becomes synonymous with power; and yet, none of our main characters want it.
Because in TYK, with great power comes... distinct lack of happiness.
Which characters in this novel are most miserable? Oh, the Emperor of the country and the immortal master with peerless martial arts. 
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Helian Yi lost the person he loved first, then the rest of his friends. Jing Beiyuan faked his death, He Yunxing got married and moved to the borderlands, and Zhou Zishu stabbed himself full of nails just to get away…* So the one who holds the greatest power over the country is also the one who doesn’t get to hold onto anything else.
Ye Baiyi, by a fluke of fate, had mastered the Six Harmonies – something that many other characters fight and kill to acquire. He never even wanted it – he was only trying to save the man he loved. The Six Harmonies granted him immortality and raised his martial arts to unparalleled levels… but also trapped him on Changming mountain for decades and decades. And he didn’t even get to have any personal happiness, Rong Changqing either ignorant of or not returning his feelings. So by the time of the novel, Ye Baiyi had not only outlived everyone he cared about, but came to think of his power as being ‘the living dead’...
Right next to those two most extreme examples, of course, are none other than our main characters.
Zhou Zishu, the leader of Tian Chuang, is without a doubt one of the most powerful people in the capital – perhaps even second only to the Emperor. And yet...
But now that he thought of it, what exactly did he want? And what had he lost? He had thrown away his freedom to serve royalty in the dark; his life in a never-ending circle, anything he ever owned had to become compensations for the acts he had committed. Now he was just a loner with empty hands, having racked his brain for a triumphant escape plan that put his life at risk. [...] He suddenly pitied himself, feeling like the most foolish man even in the most foolish world. (chapter 2)
...none of that power and authority had given him any happiness, and in fact, the one person in the world he deeply cared about had died because of things he did to clear the way for Helian Yi’s ascent.** 
Wen Kexing, the Ghost Valley master, the one who emerged victorious in countless battles, is just as miserable:
“[...] I’ve been the Ghost Master for eight years, yet have never had one day of peaceful sleep. What’s so ‘impressive’ there?” (chapter 77)
To those holding power, it becomes a burden and a constraint; yet those who do not have it seek to obtain it, driven by greed or ambition. As Zhou Zishu puts it in chapter 32: “the words ‘peerless master’ alone can drive people to madness”.
As I mentioned, throughout the narrative Lapis Armor is used as a synonym for power. And what better illustrates how worthless the pursuit of it is than the fact that the Lapis Armor can not ever be opened? The entire bloody struggle for it was never gonna reward any of its participants, as Wen Kexing had long destroyed the key. All of those people with ambitions higher than heavens, even the Scorpion who nearly manages to ‘win’... none of them would get what they wanted anyway.
Or, as our boy Cao Weining brilliantly puts:
Those people scheming this and scheming that all day long, struggling to make others die while living themselves; what was the point of it? Practicing exceptional, divine arts, being number one in the realm through a thousand autumns and innumerable generations; what was the point of that? They would still be old bachelors all their lives, never getting wives. Cao Weining vaguely felt them to all be a bit pitiful. (chapter 68)
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* we simply do not know where Lu Shen is, but anyway, at least three out of four of HLY’s friends ran off on him. ** not necessarily what happened, I think Jiuxiao’s return was at least as much love and care as it was repentance – but Zhou Zishu only sees it as the latter.
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Okay so I’m still losing my mind over chapter 12’s illusions because this is really a prime example of both ‘you need to read Qi Ye to fully understand what’s happening in Tian Ya Ke’ AND Tian Ya Ke’s extremely high reread value!
First, let’s take a look at what Zishu’s seeing:
[Zhou Zishu] was about to say something when his eyes caught something and saw a strange scene: on the body of the dead beast, a plant sprung up, glowing then blooming… it’s a cherry blossom tree!* [...] Then there was a person standing under the tree. He was a young man with thick brows and big eyes, full lips seemingly always smiling. Blossom petals fell on his shoulders but he cared none about it, only extending his hand, lips moving. Zhou Zishu could make out what he was speaking—senior brother. It was Jiuxiao… (Tian Ya Ke, chapter 12)
There’s actually a slight mistranslation here. In the original, the phrase goes 树上灼灼其华地……开满了桃花!where 桃花 means peach blossom, not cherry blossom. This is important because this illusion is actually based on Liang Jiuxiao’s parting words:
“He had me bring you a few words. He said that on that day in the Prince Estate, he had dreamed of a mountain filled with peach blossoms, and you saying that you would take him to roam jianghu together, so he felt that he’d be satisfied even in death. [...]” (Qi Ye, chapter 76)
Now you see, if you started reading with Tian Ya Ke, at this point you don’t even know who Jiuxiao is, aside from Zhou Zishu’s shidi (which you only learn in this scene) and perhaps connecting those vague references of loss to him. If you read Qi Ye, however, you know that this illusion not just brings up Jiuxiao, but does so in a way that invokes the exact moment when Zishu learned about his death, the moment Zhou Zishu “had truly died” (direct quote).
And then you have Wen Kexing.
Then [Zhou Zishu] asked like he just remembered something, “Back then I saw a tree with flowers growing from the beast’s corpse, with prince’s feathers jumping and singing. What did you see?” Wen Kexing replied from behind him, “I saw an owl—I told you before that owls laughing will only bring bad luck, and I was right wasn’t I—then I also a person carrying a bowl with red water, and the owl knocked it over…” Zhou Zishu kept his mouth shut. He told a lie, it was fair that his companion told a lie in return.
Zishu assumes Wen Kexing is lying; as readers, I think most of us didn’t question that conclusion. However, as you read further, you learn about Wen Kexing’s habit of making up stories to relate his traumatic experiences. The owl story comes up several times; and in the finale, we finally learn what it is about:
“[...] he took my mom to hide out in a small mountain village for a full ten years… alas, on the year that I was nine, something unfortunate happened in that village. An owl—“ “Enough,” Zhou Zishu interrupted. After a minute of quiet, he softened his tone. “That’s enough. It’s already been so many years, you don’t need to…” “My parents believed that they were implicating the villagers,” the other went on regardless. “They wanted to fight until the bitter end, and simply sent me away the night of. I wasn’t worried and didn’t know my own weight, so I snuck back. I saw…” [Wen Kexing proceeds to describe his parents’ corpses] (Tian Ya Ke, chapter 77)
The owl story is actually about the day when the Ghosts slaughtered the village his family lived in and killed his parents, which you only learn after finishing the novel; so on reread, you realize that Wen Kexing in fact… wasn’t really lying.
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THIS WIP FINISHED
If there’s a next life, I’ll drink with you until we’ve had our fill, and we won’t go home until we’re drunk. (Qi Ye, chapter 16)
Live… why wouldn’t I want to live? Why couldn’t I live?! All those shameless, vile people of the world get to live, so why… why can’t I…? I have to… (Tian Ya Ke, chapter 77)
THIS WIP FINISHED
do you ever think about og timeline zishu being capital r Ready to help jing beiyuan run away? and then realizing he lost all will to live and not saving him against his wishes? 
and then about tyk timeline zishu asking wen kexing if he wants to live? 
(idk if/when i’ll actually make these sketches into Something but i wanted to Talk)
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TYK art masterpost
Kind of wanted to see the scenes I illustrated in chronological (to the novel) order, but then thought it’d be sad to exclude the sketches and stuff, so this ended up covering everything I’ve drawn :^}
qiye by chapter:
chapter 16: “if there’s next life...” (textless - full piece)
tyk by chapter:
chapter 17: first kiss
chapter 19: “i can show you...”
chapter 22: ‘that move was clearly intentional’ - zcl sketches
chapter 28: wkx defending zzs from yby
chapter 29: “zhou xu, are you stupid as well?!” - “you’re past your prime...”
chapter 31: wen kexing drunk homosexual meme
chapter 52: wkx holding zzs
chapter 53: “you’ll be able to tell”
chapter 54: “if you don’t believe it...” - ”why do we have to wake so soon”
chapter 63: “if i die...”
chapter 67: zcl sketch - “sworn ties between great houses...”
chapter 70: baby squad
chapter 74: ascendant valley master wkx
chapter 76: “i never held him to begin with”
chapter 77: “do you want to live?” (textless - full piece)
other:
wenzhou: chibi - sketches - wedding art
tyk family: puppet manor - 11th anniversary art
wkx & gx: little ghosts
zzs & jby: og timeline zzs/jby
zhou zishu: cheers i’ll drink to that meme
wen kexing: first design - makeup - sketch - sketches
gu xiang: chibi - sketch
feng xiaoshu: sketches
liu qianqiao: design
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