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saintgale · 2 years
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Made an overblot Vil pixel <3
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janahanooo · 8 months
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Yuu: I feel like something is missing...
Yuu: I just can't put my tounge on it...
*Chapter 5 happens*
Yuu: aaaahh
Yuu: the Disney experience with everyone singing...
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uniquethingtastemaker · 10 months
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Ok, I was rewatching Chapter 5 of Twst in order to figure out how I should write Vil’s character and I got to the part where Epel ends up running out of the ballroom, and low key wanted to lay down the law with Vil during this scene, so I wrote a short scenario. Vil truly gets roasted in this. Also low key unedited, but it should be fine lol
Epel runs out of the room with frustrated cries and sobs. You stare at the door in disbelief, as Deuce attempts to run after Epel.
“Don’t bother,” Vil interjects, “If he doesn’t want to be here, then he doesn’t have to. I don’t want to work with someone who’s not motivated.”
Deuce hesitates, before defending “You don’t have to say it like that. Epel’s been working hard in his own way–”
“Just trying isn’t enough, it needs to also produce results,” Vil snaps back, “Besides, should you really be trying to defend and worry about Epel, when you have your own shortcomings to deal with?”
Vil continues his assault on Deuce, pointing out and attacking all the areas that he needs to work on.
Leaning back in your chair, you watch the interaction go down with pursed lips and a disapproving look. Vil also happens to be getting on your nerves lately and if he’s not listening to anybody else in regards to his own shortcomings, then you might try your hand at it as well. However, you’re willing to use Vil’s criticism tactics against him.
You roll your eyes as you prepare yourself to make a scene. Shifting positions, you cross your legs and lean back in the chair with a somewhat haughty air about you. Relaxing your body, you wait for your cue to come in.
In the middle of his speech, you cut Vil off in a voice that
“It’s no wonder you keep getting villain roles. With that kind of attitude, you’re already all set to play an antagonist,” you comment.
Everyone’s eyes snap in your direction and you watch Vil stiffen, but pay no attention to it, as you continue on.
“Also if we’re on the topic of people leaving the group, I’m under the impression that it should be you to leave, not Epel. I mean every time the team gets excited, you immediately shut it down by pointing out all the flaws immediately without any points of encouragement. You target Epel every rehearsal without fail and end up just insulting him instead of giving him actual feedback on how to improve. If anyone should leave, it’s you,” you state, before getting up from your seat. “It seems the mood is ruined so continuing practice won’t do any good. I’m going to head back.”
You make your way to the closed door before stopping and glancing back one last time.
“Correct me if I’m wrong, Vil, but isn’t Pomefiore based on the Beautiful Queen’s effort?” You clarify.
When no response comes, you continue, “I find it ironic that the dorm leader would completely ignore and dismiss the suggestions of their peers in how they can improve themselves and instead opt to attack the weaknesses of others. It set a bad example.”
That’s the last thing you say before walking out of the studio.
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thecoolsquirrel · 1 year
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Chapter 5 Sketches
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monoafterhours · 2 months
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Sitting with Vil after the book 5 incident and trying to offer comfort :(
This thought makes me CRY
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twsted-seas · 2 years
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TWST CHAPTER SIX SPOILERS
I tagged this fucker every way possible and included a title plus a read-more. You have been warned.
I am not okay. I am so not okay. And surprisingly, it’s not from Idia and Ortho, though yes, that was worse than I was expecting for their backstory and I will never emotionally recover from it.
No, the one that has me fucked up the most is VIL. He threw away everything all for the sake of saving Idia and Grim. Leona had already warned him of the consequences. But even though Vil had spent his whole life working for his beauty and acting career, even though he was willing to commit murder and overblot in chapter 5 and emphasized his commitment to his desire to be “the fairest of them all” in chapter 6 - he sacrificed everything. Even more than that, it’s only because of his sacrifice that they were able to close the gate to the underworld and save the world.
He lost all of his youth and vitality and aged to an old man despite being 18 for the boy that kidnapped, tormented, and nearly killed him and the monster cat that helped stop him in chapter 5. He was willing to sacrifice his entire life for them.
Vil finally proved what he wanted to after chapter 5. Vil is the true hero of this chapter.
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mysaldate · 2 years
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Why Vil’s overblot matters and why the fandom was wrong
With chapter 5 coming to twst en, there will inevitably be people who completely misrepresent what the overblot is about (again) and people who will call Vil shallow and undeserving of compassion (again). So let me try and explain why Vil’s overblot matters so much more than a lot of the fandom gives it credit for, what makes it different from the other overblots thus far, and why the start of chapter 6 was such a massively harmful gut-punch.
Obviously, there will be Twisted Wonderland spoilers up ahead. Not only for chapters 5 and 6 but for overblots in general as well as the Halloween event. I won’t talk much about Idia’s overblot, or anything beyond the start of chapter 6 though since that chapter is very uncomfortable for me to talk about. If you want sources for any of what I’ll be saying here, feel free to send me an ask or a dm. I will not be linking them here because Tumblr hides posts with links from the search.
Let’s start with the obvious fact we’ve known since chapter 1: Overblots happen as a result of overwhelmingly negative emotions and a build-up of magical residue known as blot. They are often rooted in deep childhood trauma and shattering of one’s deeply-rooted beliefs about the world or people around them. Riddle’s trauma itself doesn’t push him to overblot, it’s when he realizes Trey has been lying to him the whole time. Leona doesn’t overblot because his plan to get attention didn’t work but because Lilia openly mocks him for his efforts. Azul’s memories of being bullied don’t cause him to overblot until he believes the twins have abandoned him and won’t help him out anymore. Jamil doesn’t overblot because his plan didn’t work but because he believes his true intentions have been broadcasted to the world and while trying to protect himself, he doomed his family.
Vil doesn’t have this in the typical sense. The people in his surroundings are largely supportive of him, albeit very creepily so in some cases. Through-out the chapter, he even manages to get Epel’s support and the two of them come to see eye to eye in a very lovely set of scenes. All seems to be improving for Vil the further into the chapter we go. So why the sudden overblot? Why didn’t Vil lean on the support that he had and which had been his obvious edge over all the other overblotees? Vil’s world shattered as well, but it wasn’t because of the people around him. What truly shattered was Vil’s belief about himself.
Up until the last minute, even though Vil’s blot is gradually building up, he manages to keep things under the wraps extremely well. He’s calm, metodical, optimistic even. It’s only after the trial runs of their songs that he really starts to doubt himself and his group, and it’s for a good reason. Vil and the NRC group have slaved away at this performance for a fairly long time. They have their own original song written out, they came up with their own choreography, and they tried their very hardest to polish their dancing as much as they could. And it wasn’t enough. After the first trial, Vil saw some success. He was finally coming out on top for the first time in his life – only to have it immediately snatched away. By a nursery rhyme remix no less. And from the comments the other characters gave, that’s not even the worst part. The dwarves couldn’t dance. Instead, they kept bumping into each other on stage and weren’t in sync at all. By all objective means, the performance was largely inferior to that of the NRC group, and yet they easily overtook their standing in the eyes of the public.
But don’t get me wrong, it’s not this that pushed Vil over the egde. What ended up ruining everything wasn’t even the fact that Vil got caught trying to poison Neige – at least not in the way you would expect. Unlike the other overblotees, Vil never, not once, defended his actions. This, in itself, is very unique. It wasn’t Riddle abusing his dorm “for their own good,” or Leona trying to kill and injuring dozens of people because he “deserves to be the best,” or Azul stripping a bunch of people of their talents, abilities, or even selves because he “needed that power more,” or even Jamil hypnotizing Kalim for “the dorm’s good and for freedom.” The moment Vil was stopped from the momentum and realized what he was doing, he owned up to it immediately – and that, ironically, is what doomed him.
For those of you who didn’t read chapter 5 yet or don’t remember the whole backstory anymore, let me walk you through it before I go on. Vil’s father is a famous actor. We know nothing about his mother but given his father would usually take him with to movie sets and all over the world when he traveled, we can assume she was probably not around much. Vil’s father, Eric Venue, was, for all we know, a wonderful dad. He was always supportive of his son and made sure the time spent together was cheerful and happy. It was him who made Vil want to become an actor as well. And Vil started, like many children, with school plays... where he would quickly fall into a routine that would follow him into the professional industry as well.
Vil would always get cast as the villain. Be it the protagonist’s rival or a cruel bully, his characters would always be evil in one way or another, and never get redemption or their own happy ending. Dreary already but once Vil joined the industry, this became so much worse. During a shooting when he was still in elementary school, he overheard two of the movie staff talking about him. They did praise his appearance (and to those who say being called a “beautiful child” is predatory or SA, please shut up) but they immediately followed it up by calling him “too perfect” and stating that he would never play a protagonist because nobody could relate to him. He would never get his happy ending because he was not who the audience wanted to see succeed. And in a way, they were right. Even off-screen, Vil would get bullied for what happened in the movies and tv series he played in, because it was easier for people to believe he was just as much of a scumbag in real life as he was on tv. Vil called this out, clearly showing he had more brains in elementary school than the average Twitter user has in their early 20′s, but that doesn’t mean it never affected him.
In fact, the exact opposite is true. It affected Vil so much that as soon as he had the luxury of choosing his roles, he would vehemently refuse any villainous role he was offered, even when they were extremely lucrative offers. He even went off at his agent when she signed him up for one such role without consulting him first. Vil also changed his last name and while the officially stated reason was so that nobody could account his success to his father, it more than likely was also to put his past behind him. Because he was better than that, because he was not a monster, because he was not a villain.
Except once. During VDC (and I refuse to call it SDC because twst en versions of names are poor at best), Vil did become the villain for a moment. He let his own goals and desperate wishes get the better of him and was ready to seriously harm an innocent person to get his way. And yes, Neige is an innocent party in all of this because although his performance was poor and kind of pathetic when compared to Vil’s, it was not his fault that he was put on a pedestal. And Vil knows that too. So when he was snapped out of the moment and he realized what he was about to do, he crumbled.
Now let’s talk a bit about coping mechanisms and trauma responses. There’s no doubt that Vil is traumatized. Not in the same way as many of the other overblotees, and his trauma manifests differently as well, but overall, Vil didn’t overblot because of the trauma but because of his response to it. Vil lashed out against the trigger of his trauma, and acted in an objectively incorrect way. That isn’t unusual with many trauma victims. More often than not, victims of physical abuse begin to strike back at their abusers, victims of mental abuse have a hightened risk of becoming abusive themselves (not saying all of them do, put the pitchforks away, they just have a hightened risk of it), and so on and so forth. Vil’s response, though inappropriate, is still understandable. His response is human. All the more hurtful it is that he felt as though this response meant he was just as bad as all his evil roles painted him out to be. THAT was the real breaking point of Vil’s overblot. What shattered wasn’t his view of others, it was his view of himself.
Even with his overblot starting to set in, Vil’s first instinct was to plead with the people around to not look at him, to not watch as he becomes something ugly, something he never ever wanted to become. His pleads went ignored, and even purposely disregarded in one case and it only pushed him further in. This is just speculation, but I firmly believe Vil would’ve been able to pull himself together, did his wishes go followed and had people given him the time to calm down. Instead of, you know, going on and on about how what he did was so terrible and how you were there to see it and would purposely look as he turned into that ugly thing he absolutely hated. But that’s going off the topic a bit.
Personally, I have a lot of gripe with how the chapter ended. But it got even worse when chapter 6 tried to address this. At the start of chapter 6, the rest of the NRC group tries to confront Rook about his final vote. And full disclaimer, he is free to vote for whoever he wants, that is not the issue here at all. What IS the issue is Rook defending his vote by saying it was all Vil’s fault for not being beautiful enough, in regards to his overblot. It is Vil’s fault that he lashed out after years of continous trauma, and Rook is actually the good guy here for putting him in his place, never to be seen as a hero, never to be seen as someone deserving of praise, because of one trauma response that was less than desirable. There was no need to say that and yet, he did. Just like on numerous other occasions where he purposely puts Vil down for no reason. But that is material enough for another post like this. The take-away from chapter 5 and the start of chapter 6 somehow stopped being “when you break down, your friends will help you overcome it” but it instead became “if your trauma response is not morally unambigously correct, you do not deserve fair judgment” and that bothers me.
Chapter 6 then proceeds to completely skip any character development Vil went through and instead just hits us with “Yeah he’s fine and made peace with his share now” with no build-up so that’s not even worth talking about. But Vil’s overblot is a total stand-out among all the others and I wish more people actually paid attention to it rather than disregarding it as “first-world problems of a spoiled movie star” when there’s so much more to it than that.
I could go on for a while, talking about how dehumanizing Vil’s experience in the movie industry has been (not the world of child actors irl but just his personal experience) or how the society put Neige on a pedestal because he was born poor and how he’s always had support of his community unlike Vil, but we would be here for far too long if I did. So I leave you with this, I hope you enjoyed the read, and I’ll be back some other time with another long ranty brainrot analysis.
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liviavanrouge · 22 days
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Rose(Ch 5)
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Golden stood on the side, wearing an ear piece as he watched the performance, keeping an eye out for anyone wishing to cause trouble. He perked up when movement came from the corner of his eyes, his eyes narrowing when he noticed a hooded figure heading towards the front of the crowd. A secondary one followed behind them, black and purple locs peeking out causing him to perk up in surprise, knowing who's locs those were. "Sam..what's going on.."Golden stared wondering why they were here. The smaller figure held their hand, a small glow coming from their finger tips, his eyes widening. He tapped his ear piece when the performance came to an end a small smile on his face. "Vil! Look right in front of you!"Golden grinned. Vil turned before he left the stage, his eyes widening. The figure held their had up, yellow and light  purple butterflies fluttering onto the stage, forming into a bouquet of yellow and light purple roses, Vil catching it his eyes still on the figure before they vanished.
"Vil's third person POV"
Vil smiled as the crowd cheered, feeling Ekeko standing close to him in case he collapsed. "Thanks"Vil mutters Ekeko nodding. Ruko waved from the crowd with Amber, Sean and Pin, wide smiles on their face. Huey and Joana stared silently, looking neutral but curious as everyone cheered. Vil perked up, hearing Golden's voice in the ear piece, "Vil! Look right in front of you!" He looked down spotting two hooded figures, his eyes widened as yellow and light purple butterflies fluttered onto the stage, fluttering around him. The figure raised their head, blue eyes sparkling as they looked at him. "ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL VIL!!"Livia beamed a breeze blowing through her hair and hood. "AWESOME PERFORMANCE!" The butterflies glowed, all coming together to form a bouquet of yellow and light purple roses. He caught the flowers, his eyes still on Livia as she smiled up at him. "Livia.."Vil stared stunned she was able to make it. She laughed beaming up at him, the figure behind her lifting their left hand, the duo vanishing into thin air. 
@anxious-twisted-vampire @yukii0nna @writing-heiress @marrondrawsalot @yumeko2sevilla @abyssthing198 @zexal-club
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Twst Chapter 5 really pisses me off
I haven't fully completed it yet but Vil really does my head in. Like hello? You are a guest in Ramshackle so act accordingly. This is not Pomefiore, you do not have jurisdiction over what everyone eats, or THE FUCKING RIGHT TO POISON ANYONE!!
I especially hate how we/Yuu just allow this??? Like they complain to a certain extent but our choices when he said we wouldn't get punished for not eating sugar and to go to bed was between "yes sir" and "sorry guys" (we're leaving the others to their fate) Like wtf??? Do we not have control over what goes on in Ramshackle??? We're just leaving our friends paralysed on the floor because some prissy bitch decided? I'll repeat, Vil is a guest. Crowley even says that maybe one day we'll have more students in Ramshackle to look after which means we're technically a housewarden but (as a redditor phrases it) 'with the power to mettle in whoever's dorm [we] see fit' (i.e. us handling the overblots) so Vil is not allowed to punish other students, especially ones that don't belong in his dorm. The fact we're just so docile and compliant to this is just further enabling behaviour that just shouldn't be allowed. Fair enough if it was in Pomefiore where he has the authority as housewarden to enact these rules BUT WHEN LIVING IN A DORM THAT ISN'T YOUR OWN YOU SHOULD ASK BEFORE INSTILLING RULES. I just hate how we do not have a backbone at all, despite being told how blunt we can be and sometimes impulsive, which I don't really see since the dialogue options are mild at best. The only time I find that claim to be true is in chapter 3 when Leona says we threatened to ruin his sleep every night if he didn't help us, and even then Ruggie mentions how he only helped because he had incentive to which aligned with what we wanted him to do.
Going back to the original point, Vil needs to learn his fucking place and Yuu needs to grow a fucking backbone. He even calls us/Yuu manager, so as manager, and prefect, let's exert authority by making him learn his right from wrong. Why should we even need to do this? He should learn that himself, he's not a baby and we're not his parent (but given some of the fics I read hints to his upbringing not being so great) however if we need to be a condescending shit towards him then I'm fully on board. He and his dumb nicknames can both exit the Ramshackle premises because he is NOT welcome with that attitude and behaviour.
If he continues we should just threaten him with housing Neige at Ramshackle during his visit at NRC.
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smoreboi · 4 months
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idk if this is just a me thing or a common occurrence but at multiple points in the pomfiore chapter I really was just completely ready to deck vil and go annoy leona into letting me sleep on his floor again. Fuck canon, and fuck that whole situation, my trust issues would’ve had me starving myself in my own home after that cake incident
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chickenleafs-world · 7 months
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TWST chapter 5 where everything’s the same except Ortho makes it into the team and they perform the AHHH!BBA version of Under Attack.
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saintgale · 2 years
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The Fairest One of All.
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vioisgoinginsane · 8 months
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Me: *about to go to sleep*
Brain: Did vil tell his alexa mirror to exclude comments that said "NOT beautiful"? Computers are dumb like that. If i tell Word to select one word it will even if it's preceded by a negation.
Me: OH FOR F SAKES *gets up again to make this post*
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uniquethingtastemaker · 10 months
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Alright, a little update for the Neige x Reader I’ve been working on, because it’s not finished but I wanted to share something, so here we are.
In this Neige x Reader Fanfic I’ve decided to up the potential trauma that comes with having to raise 7 dwarves with no adult help. That’s scary af and would really fuck u up especially at such a young age. So, we playing into that to give Neige more character depth and so the audience can empathize with him a lot more. Or maybe I just like seeing soft boys cry… could be that too. But I’m taking the little bit of his past we got from Vil in chapter 6 and elaborate on the details. I’m having Neige be the one who was making the money and trying to be the head of the house much like Snow White in her movie. With that comes having to ignore your own feelings to prioritize the other’s so that they can maybe have a more “normal” childhood if that makes sense. So that’s the angle I’m going for.
Reader for this fic is pretty suave considering all things… like they’re not a bumbling mess like most of us are. This is what some of us want to be; relatively put together and also getting permission to ride a magic wheel lol. If anyone’s the Prince Charming in this story, it’s the reader, which I love. Neige gives an innocent vibe so having him being the one who’s more submissive in the relationship makes more sense to me.
Also I headcanon that Neige is pretty quick to fall in love, and probably opening up to people that he actually likes if that makes sense? He’s pretty trusting of others. Sometimes that’s backfired, but he seems like the type to love too much rather than to never love at all.
That’s all for this update folks! A bit of hurt/comfort + maybe a little date and bonding time between Neige in the reader in this upcoming fic. I’m inclined to make it a little mini series, because I wanna see Vil’s reaction at VDC to learn that Neige and Reader are super close low key. Not 100% sure but honestly that idea kinda has me sold, so… the likely hood is pretty high
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sussysatann · 8 months
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CHAPTER 5 BABEYYY
STARTED CHAPTER 5 HERE ARE MY PREDICTIONS(???)
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(ch3 octavinelle ver)
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THEY'RE EITHER GONNA BE LIKE THIS OR "ew a rat" THERE IS NO INBETWEEN
why do i get the feeling that rook likes to spy on people for fun and wears crocs while doing it
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dreaming-in-4d · 10 months
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Ponytail - Epel x Reader
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You and your fellow first-years were finishing up P.E. with Coach Vargas. Epel removed the rubber band that held back his soft lilac curls and tossed it aside for a moment. He was halfway through dressing back into his regular uniform when he was approached by Grim.
"You should really wear your hair back more often."
"Hmm, really?" he queried.
"Yeah. Makes you looks tough." Epel was about to respond when Grim continued saying, "I need all my minions to have a strong presence." The young man gave a curt pout. "Who knows, it might even get (y/n)'s attention."
Epel's fair face was touched with a hint of pink. "You think so?"
"For sure." Epel had been crushing on you since you first arrived at Night Raven. To his dismay, you treated him like everyone else did; like he was just some cute little kid. Epel had spent his years wanting to prove to everyone that he could be a man. This goal became even more imperative when you showed up.
Epel finished dressing himself and retrieved the rubber band. He eyed the small object for a moment before retying his hair.
Everyone moved on to their next class. Epel entered Professor Trien's class and saw you seated at the front. His heart beat harshly against his chest as he watched you tuck a piece of (h/c) hair behind your ear. Still, he approached you with the air of confidence that the Pomfiore house was known for.
"Hey (y/n)," he said taking a seat beside you.
You turned to him and answered, "Hi Epel. Oh..."
"What is it?"
"You're wearing your hair up outside P.E."
"Oh, yeah. Well, I was gonna keep it down but Grim convinced me to keep it up."
While you weren't sure what motives the flame-eared creature's motives were, you had to admit that it did look good on him.
"I like it," you commented.
"Really?" he replied. His striking blue eyes were lit up like Ignihyde fire.
"Totally; but...I think there's something missing."
Epel looked at you curiously as you pulled out a bobby pin from your own hair. His body seized up as you pushed his bangs out of his face and pinned them back.
"A strong man looks his opponent in the eye," you delivered. "And I'm sorry that I didn't see you as the man that you're becoming."
A little grin appeared on the corner of Epel's mouth.
"Felmier! (l/n)!" Professor Trien's voice sounded throughout the room. "I will not have public displays of affection in my class."
Both you and Epel flushed red, moving away from each other. You looked back at each other for a moment. You gave him a whisper, "Later."
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