#tw fakeclaiming

[chronicsymptomsyndrome]

Can we please for the love of god stop telling teenagers they’re too young to have aches and pains. Can we please stop being dismissive about these things. Fakeclaiming is disgusting period, but it is exponentially harmful to youth. Just because you didn’t start hurting until your 20s or 30s or 40s doesn’t mean every teenager complaining of chronic pain must be lying. I learned the hard way that if kids are invalidated enough about this, they will just learn to accept constant pain as a fact of life. And then they will need surgery they can’t afford in ten years bc it turns out constant pain is NOT a fact of life. At any age.

p.s. same goes for mental health

#chronic pain #chronic illness #medical trauma #tw fakeclaiming #fake claiming #anti fakeclaiming #childhood trauma #complex trauma #physical disability #disability advocacy

[snowyapricity]

friendly reminder that fakeclaiming isn’t cool because you literally never know what’s going on in someone else’s brain. just because you can’t relate to another system’s experience doesn’t mean they’re automatically faking.

to those that have been fakeclaimed before: i’m sorry, and i hope you know that i see your system for what it is, and i support you <3

#system #plurality #plural #sysblr #plural system #actually plural #pluralgang #tw fakeclaiming #endo friendly #endo safe

[thexspiral]

I'm being so real with you all, stop trying to appeal to fakeclaimers.

I am diagnosed with DID, in treatment, have an extremely covert presentation, and pretty much ONLY talk about having DID online. I got the trauma to show for it, which I've been open about before, and I'm heading for final fusion. I don't get mad when people fakeclaim me and just shrug it off bc I know I'm not.

I still get fakeclaimed.

You're never gonna win. You're always gonna be faking in their eyes, whether you are or aren't. No matter how many qualifications you have, they will never believe you.

So just stop trying. Be yourself, be weird about it.

#scott rambles #did #osdd #osddid #actually did #system #multiple #did system #dissociative system #did osdd #plural #traumagenic #traumagenic system #actually traumagenic #actually dissociative #dissociative identity disorder #system positivity #fakeclaiming #tw fakeclaiming

[clownrecess]

(Tw for talk of r/fakedisordercringe, ableism, fake claiming, harassment, etc.)

I have had it with r/fakedisordercringe. This subreddit is filled with content that is both ableist and harmful to the neurodivergent community. The posts mock autistic people, systems, people with ADHD, etc. suggesting that people are faking or exaggerating their symptoms for attention. First of all, it's incredibly harmful to assume that someone is faking a disorder just because they don't fit into your narrow view of what that disorder looks like. Autism, for example, is a spectrum disorder, which means that there are a wide variety of ways that it can present itself. Just because someone doesn't exhibit all of the classic symptoms that you associate with autism doesn't mean that they're faking it. (Tell me you're an aspie supremacist without telling me you're an aspie supremacist /hj)

The reasoning that the users of this subreddit often use tend to fall under these categories:

"They don't experience *insert disability* the same way that I do, so they must be faking"

"They post too frequently about their disability, so they must be faking"

"They support self diagnosis, so they must be faking"

"They use xenogenders/neopronouns, so they must be faking"

etc.

Has it ever crossed your mind that maybe not everyone is the same? That not everybody's disability is the same? /nbh

The idea that someone can determine whether or not another person is truly autistic or has a mental disorder based on a few online interactions (or even just a post!) is absurd. Not every autistic person or people with other disorders fits the stereotype of what people expect, and it's not up to strangers on the internet to decide who is "legitimate" and who is not.

As an autistic person, I'm tired of constantly having to defend myself and my experiences. I'm tired of seeing people with disabilities being reduced to nothing more than punchlines for jokes.

A few days ago someone in a youtube comment section accused me of faking being autistic, by saying something along the lines of "Self diagnosed ahh". First off, not everybody can safely access diagnosis. You are so incredibly privileged if you think everyone can. Somebody being undiagnosed does NOT immediately mean they are faking. Second off, I am literally professionally diagnosed.

I am tired of r/fakedisordercringe and the hate, misinformation, and stigma it perpetuates.

Leave disabled people ALONE.

#tw fakedisordercringe #tw ableism #tw fakeclaiming #actually autistic #pro self dx #rant #neurodivergent #nonspeaking autistic #autism #aac user #nonspeaking #disabled #disability

[cl0ckworkpuppet]

on that note, i think there's a lot of merit in talking about the happy, weird, or even silly parts of being a system. because at least for me, being a system can be really, really scary-- especially in the beginning, when i was first discovering that's what was happening, i was terrified. the origin of my system is pretty brutal, something i wouldn't talk about in detail to someone i don't already trust deeply. but we're not defined by our trauma, our plurality just came from it. we're all still people, individuals with our happy moments and our sad moments. i don't think anyone should be defined by the worst things they've experienced, systems included.

and also, when people think of systems, of someone with "multiple personalities", the first things they think of (thanks in huge part to awful media representation) are the scary things, the tragic things, the unrealistically violent things. talking about the day-to-day discoveries and occurrences that are unique to plurality-- yes, even the "cringe" or the "quirky" that make us look like we're "faking it" to someone who doesn't know better-- is incredibly important for breaking the stigma around DID and OSDD. because believe it or not, fun system fact, systems don't go through heartbreaking, life-altering trauma every single day. i know, right?

so before you recoil at someone you think is being "too silly" to be real, ask yourself this: do you know this person/this system's entire life story from the one single post you're seeing? or even from reading their entire public blog? do you know who they are more intimately than they know themselves? is this really about them "faking it", or do you want a reason to dehumanize a person so far that their only visible trait is their trauma?

and even if you are right, and they are faking it, what do you stand to gain from running the risk of denying a system who *is* real of their identity?

#plural system #did osdd #plurality #plural positivity #system #did system #fakeclaiming cw #tw fakeclaiming #anti fakeclaiming #and if someone comes in here talking about endo systems im gonna kick you in the nuts #if you're vehemently anti-endo then I don't see you as a hero. I see you as a loser with too much free time so you bully random internet + #users and get yourself way too involved with other people's lives #so that's why i'm -> #endo safe

[sysboxes]

Plain text: go outside and you wont think youre multiple people lol

Anon, I hate to break it to you, but we quite literally are multiple people. There are multiple people running this blog. As in, multiple separate people with different birth certificates living in different places and everything. I’m so sorry you had to find out like this . . . 😢

#not a userbox #anon hate #tw fakeclaiming #fakeclaiming tw #fakeclaiming #anon is blocked so if ur seeing this: srry ur inbox privileges have been revoked :(

[forestmothsystem]

reasons we are pro endo.

the first, and most important, is that i genuinely do not care what goes on in your head. system developed without trauma? ok. system developed with trauma? ok. system created on purpose? ok. more than one of these? ok. something more complicated? ok. i support you.

other reasons include that anti endo stuff seems to be very intertwined with fakeclaiming. i suppose not all of them do this, as there seems to be more than one way to be anti endo, but one way i see a lot is the very simple statement “endos actually don’t exist and all of them are faking”. of course, there are the other varieties, such as “endos are just traumatised and don’t know it” and “endos are delusional” (genuinely fuck off if you tell anyone that they’re delusional as an insult). probably some others that i’m missing. i also see these same people saying that they’re anti fakeclaiming, or having fakeclaimers in their dni. do they know? did they simply never think about what they are doing?

i don’t like fakeclaiming. i have trauma surrounding similar things to it. if someone fakeclaims me, i can shrug it off (mostly. there are some things that will trigger me.) but if someone fakeclaims someone else, that almost always triggers me. i cannot stand someone being fakeclaimed. there is an intrinsic pain in being told that you are lying, that your pain is not real, that what has been happening to you is just a lie and the product of a child’s overactive imagination, and i hate the idea of that happening to someone else, because *nobody deserves it*. it hurts to see that people hurt other people.

and telling people that they are traumatised will not do anything good. firstly, one is assuming that they haven’t already tried searching for their trauma. what if they have, and can either confirm that they do not have any, or that it is not intertwined with their systemhood? or what if they haven’t, and one’s pushing makes them unearth trauma that they were not ready for? this can cause actual harm. it has real consequences.

and telling people that they are delusional is a shitty move. firstly, having delusions is not something one can throw around to insult people with. it is a genuine condition and if someone is actually delusional, reality checking can cause them harm. and saying that someone is delusional just seems to be a roundabout way of telling someone that they’re faking. i actually do hate people who tell other people that they’re delusional. delusional people do not exist as a way for one to be an arse to other people. they are people who have a condition. delusions are not automatically evil, despite the fact that they have been demonised.

and endos do not exist to harm people, despite the beliefs of some. plurality/systemhood is not an exclusive club that only people with severe trauma can access. even though i could access this hypothetical club, i don’t want to be in it if it automatically excludes people. plenty of endos still have trauma even if it does not intertwine with their systemhood. this is to say nothing of mixed origin systems, who are always excluded from this discussion. if they are not purely born of trauma, then would they be prevented from accessing spaces for trauma survivors who are systems? i do think there should be spaces for trauma survivors, but saying that they need to be endo free is a bit assholish to those who are mixed origin systems.

those are my main reasons, among others.

-rant from a traumagenic system who is so tired of having to read about others being fakeclaimed.

#plural #plural system #pluralgang #endo safe #plurality #pro endo #traumagenic #traumagenic system #tw fakeclaiming #cw fakeclaiming #tw syscourse #cw syscourse #syscourse #tw swearing #cw swearing

[the-firefly-jar-system]

dear fakeclaimers:

people faking DID/OSDD is not what invalidates our experience as a system.

what actually invalidates our experience as a system is hearing people fakeclaiming so many systems (real and fake) and getting indirectly fakeclaimed when these self proclaimed “saviors” call one of your symptoms a sign of faking (spoiler alert: it’s not actually a sign of faking).

fakeclaiming helps nobody. it makes people with real disorders insecure and anxious, and it gives fakers attention that will only add fuel to their flame

[pt: dear fakeclaimers: people faking DID/OSDD is not what invalidates our experience as a system. what actually invalidates our experience as a system is hearing people fakeclaiming so many systems (real and fake) and getting indirectly fakeclaimed when these self proclaimed “saviors” call one of your symptoms a sign of faking (spoiler alert: it’s not actually a sign of faking). fakeclaiming helps nobody. it makes people with real disorders insecure and anxious, and it gives fakers attention that will only add fuel to their flame /end pt]

#fake disorder cringe #anti fakeclaiming #tw fakedisordercringe #r/fakedisordercringe #tw fakeclaiming #did #did system #actually did #osdd #osdd system #actually osdd #actually traumagenic #osddid #firefly flickers

[a-sip-of-milo]

Fakeclaiming is not "doing the people with actual disorders a favour". It is not helping us in any way. It is harmful. Fuck anyone who does it. You cannot tell if someone is faking or not, and even those who do happen to be faking need support, not bullying and harassment.

DNI: Narcissistic/Borderline/Anti-social/Histrionic abuse believers, fakeclaimers, pro ana/thinspo/meanspo + blogs that are predominantly about eating disorders (excluding recovery blogs).

#cluster b safe #npd safe #bpd safe #aspd safe #hpd safe #tw fakeclaiming

[systememergency]

Okay I can't believe I have to say this: I am 100% against fakeclaiming. Meaning if you even squint in the direction of someone who says they have OSDDID, I don't want you near me. My last post was explicitly anti-fakeclaiming, and if you read it as some mild in-between of "Well, I don't mind it when people fakeclaim in SOME instances uwu" NO. Not a single one.

Fakeclaiming completely destroyed my ability to trust my mental health professionals. I was convinced they'd believe I was faking it. I haven't told most people in my life despite desperately needing accommodation, because the first (and only) time I opened up about it to someone, they instantly fakeclaimed me. I already doubted myself and it took me MONTHS to disclose my DID symptoms to my psychiatrist because I was so scared I was secretly faking it. I still cannot properly believe myself, and I was diagnosed nearly a YEAR ago. I have been petrified of being open as a system out of fear of being harassed on the streets.

Fakeclaimers cannot see that they are damaging people with OSDDID, because they've convinced themselves their fakeclaiming exists in a bubble. They thrash wildly in every direction and just hope they're mostly taking down fakers. But if they take down actual systems? Collateral. Maybe don't act like such a faker next time. There was literally no part during my life where I felt as though fakeclaimers AT ALL helped me. There was no point in my life where I ever wished "Man, I just really hope this random 14-year-old system on TikTok gets harassed or I'm gonna have a rough day."

You know what I've wished for? I wished I knew for certain my friends and family would believe me. I wish I didn't have to be worried that the first words off my mental health professionals' lips would be "You're making that up." I wish I could be open about this illness when I'm more stable and it's less dangerous for me without the risk of people assuming my openness came from a lack of pain and understanding, rather than a domination of it. I wish I could casually bring up I'm a system in conversations without being worried that someone is going to interrogate me. I wish I didn't fear waking up one day to someone deeming me one of the cringe systems and launching a harassment campaign against me.

Fakeclaimers are actively stripping this reality away from me. So I'm going to make it clear again: I am not on your side. I am not some mild in-between of "Sometimes fakeclaiming is okay!" If you fakeclaim people, even the ""real fakers"", get away from me. If you actually gave a shit about systems, you would be using that energy to prop up systems and OSDDID resources, not harassing random internet users.

#Every time I make a post or comment being anti-fakeclaim there's always at least one or two fakeclaimers who come along being like #Yes I so agree with you I'm one of those GOOD fakeclaimers who only fake claim actually bad systems #Like yeah that's crazy you're the exact mfkers I hate why are you trying to get buddy buddy with me #actually did #did #osddid #cdd #did system #complex dissociative disorder #did osdd #dissociative identity disorder #system things #system stuff #anti fakeclaiming #fakeclaimers dni #tw fakeclaiming #fuck fakeclaimers

[murielsbottombitch]

"you're faking your disability for attention"

why would I spend a bunch of money on mobility aids just for attention?

I could spend that money on an onlyfans model and get much more attention.

#tw ableism #ableism #tw fakeclaiming #anti fakeclaiming #fakeclaiming mention #fakeclaiming cw #fuck fakeclaimers #fakeclaiming #chronic disability #chronic fatigue #chronic illness #chronically ill #chronic pain #cripplepunk #spoonie #text post

[luzxii]

What are the reasons fakedisordercringe would fakeclaim y'all on their stupid abelist sub I'm curious

#r/fdc #anti fakedisordercringe #dni fdc supporters #i dpnt have did but support everyone who does #yall are safe here #osdd #did #actually tourettic #tw fakedisordercringe #tw fakeclaiming #tourettes #actually autistic #adhd #autism

[thexspiral]

"You're faking autism"

God I wish.

I wish I was making it up and I could make it go away at will. I wish I didn't have to apologize for doing things that weren't socially acceptable because I didn't know they were seen as rude or wrong. I wish I wasn't always seen as weird.

Even in my group of neurodivergent friends, I always feel like an outsider. I'm always intrinsically aware of the things I need to hide just to be liked. I can never tell if people are actually being mean to me or if I just did something wrong and didn't understand.

I wish I could understand. I wish I could just. be normal.

#scott vents #vent #tw internalized ableism #tw ableism #tw fakeclaiming #autism #neurodivergent #autistic #actually autistic #autistic vent #autism vent #neurodivergent vent

[sophieinwonderland]

Well that escalated quickly...

I... can actually respect that in a way.

I mean, with all the two-facedness in syscourse where people don't know who to trust, it's nice for someone to proudly wave all their red flags in the air instead of backstabbing you later.

In all fairness, the whole "telling endogenic systems" to die thing since got edited out by the host who apologized on for Constantine.

Although notably, the heavy fakeclaiming is still there. The accusations of roleplaying are still there.

I'm not going to bother debunking the accusations of roleplaying. As they say, you can't reason somebody out of a position they didn't reason themselves into in the first place.

It won't matter that the ICD-11 written by the World Health Organization specifically that you can have multiple "distinct personality states" without a disorder.

It won't matter that Transgender Mental Health, a book published by APA Publishing, talks about endogenic plurality.

It won't matter that Stanford University is pouring massive amounts of funding into an fMRI study of tulpamancers.

It won't matter that the creators of the theory of Structural Dissociation have said that it's possible that spirits communicated with by mediums may be self-conscious dissociated parts of the personality.

None of the overwhelming support for the existence of endogenic plurality from the academic community would convince somebody who is driven purely by anger and, frankly, is projecting their own insecurities onto others.

First... I don't know what the anon is on about because people aren't generally attacked for saying their own plurality is caused by trauma.

But the main reason I'm quoting this is because you seriously need to ask yourself if you're accomplishing that goal.

Fakeclaiming anyone normalizes fakeclaiming and self-doubt. A space that fakeclaims any systems isn't a safe space for any systems.

#syscourse #tw death #tw suibaiting #tw suibait #tw fakeclaiming

[lefluoritesys]

The appropriate response.

-host

#tw fakeclaim #tw fakeclaiming #did system #did #osdd system #osdd #dissociative identity disorder #did osdd #system #other specified dissociative disorder #system things #system stuff #osdd 1a #osdd 1b #complex dissociative identity disorder #highly complex dissociative identity disorder #highly complex did #hc did #hc did system #cdid system #cdid #actually median #median system #actually did #did memes #osdd memes #system memes

[thistledown-moved]

So funny when people make posts like "if you REALLY had [disability here] you wouldn't be ABLE to have a social media account" like god forbid disabled people do anything that isn't lament in total isolation until they are Fixed or until they die.

#thistle--down #disability #tw fakeclaiming #i shan't address the post that originally baited me into posting this because- #30 seconds on their blog was enough to see it was All about the attention for them and i refuse to give it to them. #disabilities do make social media difficult. be it pain or fatigue issues. motor issues. intellectual issues. ptsd and trauma issues. #others that are no doubt slipping my mind right now. #like you aren't going to see the people who aren't able to uae social media on the internet. #you aren't going to know when aomeone takes a step back from social media unless they tell you. #otherwise - all you see is a dead blog. a gap of a few weeks or months perhaps (if they return) #you dont see the systems people have in place to Use social media unless they show you (and you are not entitled to being shown) #social media is a huge part of modern life. diaabled people don't need to avoid it to prove to some fucking creature on the internet #that they are Disabled Enough. #get the Fuck out.