#toxic logicality

[unsympathetic-teach]

Patton having a crush on Logan and Logan knowing it and using it to get Patton to do stuff for him but not showing any actual affection. Until Patton starts to show an interest in Roman. Than all of a sudden Logan likes Patton back and gets him back where he wants him. And then treats him bad again. This cycle continues until Roman finally sits him down has a talk with him about what Logan he doing and how it’s bad

LOVE this

Specifically I love the idea of Logan doing his whole 'everyone ignores me" speech whenever he thinks Patton is drifting too far. He guilt trips patton into always being attentive to him but never does the same for Pat because its "against his nature"

#anon #ask #u!logan #unsympathetic logan #toxic logicality #im like 80% sure thats the right ship name but correct me if im wrong #ask to tag

[gayvampyr]

“queer spaces should be inclusive of people who don’t enjoy sex and who have “strange”, negative or repulsed relationships with sex” and “sex is an important aspect of lgbt community, history, and activism and queer people should be allowed and able to talk freely about sex without stigma or shame” are ideas that can and should coexist.

#‘queer people were banned from and shamed for having sex and that’s where a lot of our activism stemmed from’ and #‘not liking or having sex is considered abnormal and a mental illness and also needs to be destigmatized’ are concepts that not only can but #often do coalign #it’s esp important to consider that a lot of lgbt ppl who have a tricky and strained relationship with sex are like that because of trauma #which is very common for queer folks #it’s really not an ace-only thing #like i am sex repulsed but it’s very hard to discern if it’s because i’m asexual or if it’s the trauma. either way i deserve to have those #feelings and be included in lgbt spaces and discussions about sex and treated as just another queer person with a different experience #instead of being alienated because my feelings about sex don’t directly line up with yours #im so sick of people in this community trying to pit us against each other. as an ace lesbian that shit is so toxic and harmful #my relationship with sex is fluid. im sex-positive always‚ but i often find myself sex repulsed. im otherwise neutral about it but im sick #of people acting like it’s either you enjoy sex and have it frequently or you hate it and you shame everyone who has it like youre a puritan #and it’s often aphobes who bought into that ‘aces are puritanical celibate straights who want ppl who have gay sex to die or think they’re #‘dirty’ or some shit. and it was literally 90% crypto-aphobes pretending to be aces to get people to adopt that into their belief system #the same way crypto-t/rfs pretend to be trans women who want to prey on the ‘innocent women’ #and y’all will use those posts/screenshots as ‘evidence’ that whatever scapegoat you’ve selected is actually inherently bad/homophobic/ #misogynistic/etc and not even #acknowledge the giant hole in your logic cuz you’re too busy trying to find a scapegoat #it’s the same tactics and y’all fall for it every time #text post #like. lesbians are CONSTANTLY getting hounded and told that we’re broken or mentally i’ll for not showing interest in (having sex with) men #for the same reason asexuality is considered bad or wrong or weird #not showing interest in heterosexual relationships or sex is why this is so important #anyone that falls outside the scope of heterosexuality is part of this community whether you like it or not

[arrozconlecheeee]

I redrew some doodles from earlier this year on my priv twitter(о´∀`о)

Song: Supermassive black hole - Muse

#I remember when I first drew these a couple months ago it was between SMB by muse or Toxic by Britney Spears #hpma #harry potter magic awakened #hp magic awakened #hpma mc #hpma oc #harry potter #I wish I could show you guys the little mini fic my friend wrote a while ago bc that’s what I was referencing here #Christian just really likes dueling #he’s a little unhinged:) #Christian and Riley have dueling #Daniel and Riley have dance club #hehe #Riley has his tie around his wand is like Wii remote strap logic that’s how I best explain it #my art tag

[theprinceandthewitch]

I will actually die on the "Huntlow is forced" hill because it makes absolutely no sense for either of them to get together.

Especially Hunter, who is attached to the Caleb/Evelyn and Philip drama... and last time I checked, Willow isn't the witch from another world who turned Hunter's world upside down lmao.

#anti huntlow #and Lumity is toxic in a subtle way #tbh im getting a little tired of people trying to apply outside logic onto a narrative structure when it comes to both of these pairings #cuz it's like. dude. these characters aren't real people and stories aren't necessarily supposed to be realistic. they exist #primarily as a way to impart the storytellers thematic argument onto their audience

[unbreakable--bond]

#might as well post this here too lmao #fr y'all mfs getting TOO worked up by a fictional pairing #also dude wasn't even using the age gap as an excuse but the fact it was toxic #as if people already aren't shipping toxic ass ships lmaoooo #also to the few antis still reading the tags if you don't like the ship because of the age gap fine idc and completely valid #but please don't use 'its unhealthy' as a reason to tell people not to ship something #stupid ass logic no offense #sorry i'll go back to memeing now #sontails #sonails #sonic #sonic the hedgehog #proship #sonic series

[blonde-and-cat-suc]

If Adora and Catra both did crap to hurt each other then why do I never see comics abt Adora feeling like crap and feeling bad for hurting Catra

#salt salt salt #old draft post that i had stewing in here #even fandom knows. they KNOW. that c//a is not an equal relatioship. #equal c//a would have these two ALWAYS arguing back and forth with each other about things from the past. possibly working them out togethe #equal c//a FANON would naturally reflect this following that same logic #so why is it when we see the premises of “Adora has to apologize to Catra now” its the same tired old... #“Im sorry i left you in the Horde” #and nothing else. #“im sorry that your feelings were hurt and im sorry that you had no influence over me at that time... Im sorry that you're STILL mad at me” #she's not apologizing over something that she is genuinely sorry about #she's apologizing in these fanon works as a means to placate catra (and fans' warped reality of what this relationship actually is) #it's a shitty vaguely disguised way to “equalize” c//a and make it so that they BOTH look like awful people #when obviously this is not the case because the narrative itself doesn't think Adora is wrong for leaving the Horde! #even if these two were “equally bad” to each other. why ship them then. really. seriously. i get the rhetoric of “ooh toxic spicy ship” but #if they're really SO “toxic and spicy” where is the part where they're BOTH toxic? BOTH bad for each other? #it's not a toxic relationship if ONE side is toxic. thats called an abusive relationship. anyway. im done now. good night. #whoops! tag rant

[kidrunaway]

I'm thinking about Simon and Markus very hard. How they hold each other so gracefully. How they took their time to trust one another. How Simon listens to Markus and cares about what he wants to do in his own way. How they stare at each other like "I want you but I can't have you." How Simon was so desperate to live but gave his life away to Markus and confessed his love in such a subtle way. How Markus looks so content around him. How Markus is the first one to pull him to a hug after Simon nods giving him approval, and how Markus concern shows on his face. How worried he is about Simon. The list goes on.

#and ppl still have the audacity to say they have no chemistry when they have the most chemistry out of every ship out there #“thats a bold statement of you” AND PROUD #and simon does state his opinions several times. he just doesnt push it onto markus like that and cares about what he thinks too #hes a logical guy and would rather care about their safety #i could go on such long rants about them #theyre the definition of “we couldve done so much more if we only had time” #im just so sick of people thinking that theyd be a toxic ship when theyre the opposite of that #“simarkus is bad because simon cant give his opinions” me when I dont play the game and dont understand simon #but anyways #happy simarkus november #Im sure theyre both being very gay right now #dbh #simarkus #dbh simarkus

[moobrvoobl-moobmoob-oobmpoobroom]

I just find it mind-boggling that some people will reblog things like “Anakin didn’t care about Rex and his men, he wouldn’t listen to Fives just because he was friends with Palpatine” and then in the next post be gushing over Rexwalker/Rexanidala like???? so you agree. Anakin does care about Rex?

#some people will literally hate on either Anakin or the Jedi council for reasons that explicitly contradict the point of the prequels #and then YOU'RE either toxically positive or condoning abuse for liking all the characters and having a nuanced view of things #the takes I mentioned in the body of this post literally wiped out the fact that Palpatine groomed and manipulated him for Years just so- #-they could say “wow the clones didn’t deserve what that horrible guy Anakin did to them” #me: okay. so you’re saying they didn’t deserve for him to show kindness and friendship and help reinforce the mindset of individuality they #-already had and that the majority of jedi encouraged because they are a group who treasure individuality and have compassion on everyone & #-all things??? #Anakin could be a shit person but he wasn’t to the clones and I will die on this hill #“he enslaved them” you’re pinning that on ANAKIN. a literal former slave. not the Republic or the Kaminoans? #he would have 0 reason to enslave them because he knows what that’s like. he’s been through that #why. WHY do people blame Anakin or the Jedi for 100% of everything going wrong instead of Palpatine. #you can blame Anakin for the choices he made and the Jedi Order for the oversights and legalism they started to have during the war #but enslavement of the clones??? not listening to Fives because of Palpatine??? #if you want to blame Anakin for the clones being slaves you have to blame the rest of the Jedi too #and we all know how rare it is for ‘Anakin antis’ to also be ‘Jedi order antis’ #quotation because there is a certain connotation and generalisation that comes with those phrases these days #I just don’t understand why Anakin is to blame for that specifically. blame him for being angry and violent and obsessive and turning to th #dark side logic+morals be damned to save one person yes but slavery??? he didn’t know about the chips and if he did you bet your ass he- #-would hate them just as much as the slave monitors on Tatooine #anyway #I want to see both sides of the debate i really do because some people have really good points on character motivations etc #but it’s getting ridiculous at this point. I always try to be a calm and positive space but some of y’all’s takes are contradictory bullshi #Fandom salt #swift talks #Swift rambles in the tags #vent #Jedi positive #meta #ish? #jedi positivity

[bassenji]

There's a HIGHLY concerning amount of videos by people who have detransitioned, and are speaking against gender-affirming care being, in their words, too accessible. They are frustrated about how nobody stopped them and that everyone was way too supportive and unquestioning, and they have caused 'irreversible damage' to themselves (oh yes, they love that Abigail Shrier book).

They often have this tone about how being trans was just a stupid, cringe phase in their lives. They frame it like they were misguided, too influenced by gender positivity, even though from how they were speaking about it, clearly that gender transition was what they needed at that time, and it made them happy, and it's ok if their identity shifted to something else now.

It's mind-boggling how a person that embraced being trans, even for a brief period of their life, can suddenly go and create so much damage to other trans people. Even if they tried and figured out this is not the right thing for them, there are so many people out there who need to try that path too. Bigots are using these detransitioners as a prime example of why gender-affirming care should be strictly gatekept.

And re: regret and so-called irreversible damage. I am saddened that these people's gender exploration ended in them adopting a close-minded, cis-centric worldview. Because even if their body did undergo changes, one should know that a woman with a deep voice and facial hair is still a woman. And a man with breasts is still a man.

#my gender identity has been changing recently (transmasc->nonbinary feminine leaning) and im trying to find more people who talk about it #but all im seeing is this gatekeepy toxic bullshit! #stop being ashamed of trying different genders! #everyone should be allowed to explore! #this logic is so flawed to me #its like saying dairy should be banned because you drank milk once and found out youre lactose intolerant

[spending-life-pretending]

so fucked up that judith said no to being coronabeth’s new necro. the only thing more fucked up would’ve been if she’d said yes

#me #the locked tomb #as yet unsent #jodybeth #I often think about this #bc like yeah the communication is lacking #but in a world filled with fucked up/codependent-to-the-point-of-being-toxic relationships #I honestly think Jody’s choice becomes (when looking relatively) one of the most mature and logical decisions in the whole series #like I almost can’t believe Ms muir didn’t take the opportunity to enmesh them in that way #love them

[ctrl-lupin]

Yes, I would be very interested hearing your head canon (@tim-ribbert-56) (in response to this post)

I have decided for my personal entertainment that Clarisse de Cagliostro is related to Lupin III, and here's why.

-pulls out Arsène Lupin's Wikipedia page-

In the novel La Comtesse de Cagliostro, a young Arsène Lupin (at the time going by the name Raoul d'Andrésy) was courting Clarisse d'Etigues, a young lady of a well-to-do family, and trying to win her hand, despite her father's disapproval.

Throughout the course of the novel, Lupin meets and falls in love with Joséphine Balsamo, aka the Countess of Cagliostro, and abandons Clarisse in favour of her. To clarify, Joséphine is not actually countess of anything, she is (or claims to be) a descendant of Giuseppe Balsamo aka the Count of Cagliostro (who was also count of jack shit), a famous conman from the 18th century.

Shenanigans ensue, which I will not go into in details on, but oh my god I am insane about Raoul and Joséphine, I want to dissect them and study them under a microscope. It turns out Joséphine aka Cagliostro is evil as fuck, Raoul/Lupin realizes that and goes back to Clarisse (whom he had previously abandoned like an old sock, I fucking hate this guy), marries her, and a few years later has her kid.

Unfortunately Clarisse dies in childbirth, and Joséphine, who was still around and very very pissed at Lupin (and jealous as hell of Clarisse whom, may I mention, had never personally antagonized her in any way whatsoever, Joséphine is just fucking bonkers). Joséphine also kidnaps Lupin and Clarisse's son, Jean, and raises him as her own son. (I have not yet read the following novel The revenge of Cagliostro so I don't really know what Jean's deal is, I just know he's an antagonist).

The following is my headcanon, based on these events. In the universe of Lupin III, Joséphine Balsamo was actually countess of the small kingdom of Cagliostro (maybe Giuseppe was count, maybe he conned his way into becoming count, maybe he bought the land and built a fake kingdom with a fake history, who knows).

After the events of The revenge of Cagliostro, Jean settles down in the country of Cagliostro, gets married, has a child, and that child will later have a daughter of their own, who they name Clarisse, after their late grandmother. Clarisse de Cagliostro, of Lupin III: The Castle of Cagliostro fame, would thus be the great-grand-daughter of Arsène Lupin, making her Lupin III's cousin/niece/whatever you call this specific degree of separation.

I am choosing to make Clarisse de Cagliostro a great-granddaughter of Arsène Lupin, rather than a granddaughter, because Arsène Lupin was very young when the events I described unfolded: he is 20 years old when he meets Clarisse d'Etigues and the whole Cagliostro debacle happens, and 25 by the time Jean is born. I'm assuming he had Lupin II much later in his life. So Jean and Lupin II (half-brothers) would have a significant difference in age, and so Jean's hypothetical child (grandchild of Arsène Lupin, so of the same generation of Lupin III) would be much older than Lupin III. Clarisse de Cagliostro is younger than him, maybe around the same age if you stretch it, so she's have to be a great-grandchild.

Now I need to read The revenge of Cagliostro and study Arsène Lupin's wikipedia page in more detail to determine when exactly Lupin II was born and who his mother was. And also where Albert's family branched out, because the fact that he's called D'Andrésy should theoretically place him as a descendant of Arsène Lupin's mother but not of Arsène Lupin himself; but Jean was also going by that last name, so who fucking knows.

No I am not insane I promise, I am just a gigantic nerd.

#i have very mixed feelings about Papy Lupin Original Flavour #cuz you see in the first books he was pretty much like his grandson #a charming little bastard; smug as hell but also charming enough to make up for it #like. an ego the size of the eiffel tower but it's highly deserved #if he robbed me i would just thank him #you wanna punch him in the face but like. lovingly #then around The Hollow Needle he started acting weird #and after that his ego grew into a god complex the size of the eiffel tower and he just lost all the charm #like. just a huge dick honestly. #i thought that was a logical evolution after (SPOILER FOR THE HOLLOW NEEDLE) his wife got brutally murdered in front of his eyes #mere HOURS after they got married and he gave up his whole career as a thief for her #which would be an understandable evolution #but no he's also retroactively an asshole in The Countess of Cagliostro which is a prequel #i guess leblanc just decided 'lupin's a dick now' #which sucks #but on the other hand it's very funny to kinda hate-read The Countess of Cagliostro #i was honestly rooting for Joséphine for most of the book #she is fucking insane which is exactly what raoul/lupin deserve #you know that Mountain Goats song 'no children' ? #'hand in unloveable hand; i hope you die i hope with both die' #or that post that says 'i don't ship them they're too toxic / well i hope they kill each other mid-fuck' #well that's me with them #just reading on to see how many more life-ruining decisions raoul can bodily throw himself at #also leblanc did joséphine dirty!!!!!!!! #LET MY GIRL BE EVIL FOR GOD'S SAKE #none of that 'her fragile feminine nature' and fainting after murdering someone because deep down she can't bear her own cruelty #what the fuck #let her be genuinely unhinged!! let her bash raoul's head in with a meat hammer!!!! #(yes that is something that she tried to do) #anyway. justice for Joséphine Balsamo. god forbid women do anything

[cormancatacombs]

Trying to hash things out with a family member who refuses to acknowledge how they’ve hurt you is like bashing your head against a wall and expecting the wall to bleed first.

#toxic family #family trauma #tw toxic family #biological family vs logical family #tw head trauma #trauma #vent post #tw family #cant sleep #family bullshit #darvo

[seagull-scribbles]

Saw some artists draw Rise Raph’s mask in a bow and I fell in love ♥️

#rottmnt #rise raphael #raphel #i saw the bow and i loved it i was like yes i love how raph is so angry and tough but rise raph punched toxic masculinity in the face #but then i was doodling it and its like #its lgbt history month here in the uk #and most of you know im non binary #and i have been self projecting onto rise raph a lot this past month so #i ended up doing this instead with his two outfits #experimented with colours and textures a little more #i want to branch out and maybe try drawing the other turts and maybe some humans but i am missing my sonic stuff a lot too #but yeah a fem and masc rise raph for the soul for now #i really love all the ideas and headcanons about raph having DID and stuff it is logical #but i also just like that maybe raph is like an onion with lots of layers that i can hug and self project onto mwahahaha #i think i need more practice with this more boxes body shape but i do think this is already much better than my attemp 3 weeks ago so progr #progress #its a shame i dont have time to do lots of studies and redraws i think that be the next step for me to progress #also no one asked but i think his masked it ruined at the bottom because he chewed it when he was younger #also also no one asked even more so but this month ive just been thinking alot about how i present and idk #just a lot of thoughts and reflections going on here i guess #SaveRiseOfTheTMNT

[tonyglowheart]

Okay, wait lmao. I got to chap 45 and was surprised too see what I think is That Betrayal that I see some people get so so hung up about. Is this it? in Chapter 45? Chapter 45?? out of 128?? Like the way I saw some ppl cite it as a "I like yanshen except-" or like this is an unforgiveable thing by YWS.... and it's like. idk man, we're not even at the halfway mark yet. YWS is still like in his enacting his theorem on the world to try to get SQ to see it as a proof of concept stage. It also didn't really feel like it came out of nowhere at least not for me lmao, I was like, yeah this makes sense as a next step, like. whatever YWS does has to be an escalation and it has to come from him, and it has to be something that WOULD be personal like this. Especially after SQ called him his friend (even if part of the excuse was that it's easier to explain and etc)

#qian qiu #yan wushi #idk anyone else feel like this? lol #I just am like.... bro we're at chapter 45 / 128 #I guess if it were a WIP and I didn't know how many chaps there were it might be more shocking #or more of a like oh no how badly is sq going to get fucked up and can be come back from it #but like. knowing that we're like a little over a third of the way through.... #and honestly. I only went back to check the chap number once I saw oh is this The Thing? so like even chap number notwithstanding..... #it still made sense to me as a logical progression from like YWS's perspective #sorry some of you guys can't handle YWS's toxic yuri swag ig! #anyway I am still very much here for yws's girlboss wrongs #(also arguably- yws knew or suspected or thought that sq would be able to figure out a way to handle sjx) #(and if not then perhaps it's still two birds with one stone)

[woomycritiques543]

Helluva Boss and Hazbin’s most toxic fans:

“YOU’RE ALLOWED TO LIKE BAD THINGS!”

*uses this as an excuse to romanticize terrible things such as murder or sexual assault in their stories, shits on trauma victims to defend doing so, and are racist, homophobic, and ableist as all hell*

Regular Fans:

“Helluva Boss is bad, but-“

Helluva Boss and Hazbin’s most toxic fans:

“SO YOU’RE SAYING I CANT ENJOY IT?! YOU CANT LIKE BAD THINGS! IT MUST BE GOOOD! *invent millions of headcannons to make it look a thousand times better than it actually is* I CAN’T LIKE VILLAINS- SO THEY MUST ALWAYS BE EXCUSED OR SUGARCOATED SO THEY “DONT” LOOK LIKE THE VILLAIN! YOU’RE A HATER-”

Regular Fans:

“…. but I still enjoy it, understand that you can like/enjoy a villain character without justifying or romanticizing their actions and that simply liking a villain doesn’t make you a bad person. You are not a “hater/morally bad person” for being negative about anything, and saying otherwise is toxic positivity. Which is a real psychological term for people who take positivity to harmful extremes.”

Helluva Boss and Hazbin’s most toxic fans:

#hazbin hotel #helluva boss #helluva boss criticism #ive realized why people do this #It’s a mix of toxic positivity the fear of being seen as a bad person and a lack of self accountability. #when it’s like- if you want to enjoy morally bad things- why cant we enjoy bad QUALITY things? #what kind of logic is that? Someone can enjoy bad things to BE bad- #except not really? because something must always be seen as good or justified for them to like it?! #so it’s really all just a group of highly insecure people trying to justify their actions as much as humanly possible. #honestly- you need to get over yourselves. people are allowed to like BAD things. #and from BAD I mean quality wise. It doesnt make you a worse person for feeling this way. That’s some toxic positivity right there #and is clearly the sign of a genuine insecurity for acting like this for people disliking even ONE thing about something. Honestly. #They want to be shitty but simatainously dont want to be SEEN as such despite being so. It’s so highly insecure and concerningly so.

[parasitic-saint]

i cant keep explaining slash shipping to normal people and then just receiving a "that doesn't make any sense" WHERE'S YOUR FUN??? YOUR WHIMSY??!?!? YOUR IMAGINATION???!???

#the parasite talks #like idk what to say to you i was just making a fun joke about the onceler x jack frost era and now im here explaining #the whole history of shipping and the joke is completely dead and buried like my hopes of feeling normal and not terminally online... #also them not understanding the tf2 ships????? at least some accept the heavy and medic ship but just cant wrap their heads around snipersp #LIKE THATS A BASIC ONE HOW ARE YOU GONNA LOOK AT ME WHEN I GET THE MERASMUS AND SOLDIER OR HEAVY AND SCOUT #what do you mean you cant ship demoman and soldier?? hi??? is this thing on??? #how are you gonna react to the big four/ rise of the brave tangled dragons #just have fun for a bit.... it really doesnt need to be logical or make sense sometimes i just want to see two hot women making out #what do you mean i cant thing abt glados in her robot form and the hotel in her building mode and pass out because i know the chemistry #between them would be so toxic it would disintegrate me like the elephant's foot??? sorry for having fun with the media i interact with #actually no im not sorry just have fun for once im begging here sorry my brain is so massive and my ass so flat