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ms-cartoon · 2 months
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I. Am. So. Sick. Of. This. Fandom.
Seriously, how are these folks immediately gonna assume the op is homophobic because of this??? They already know Vaggie's a lesbian!! They know she's a girl. This is literally just an au fanart with FICTIONAL characters! Y'all act like it's the most abnormal thing for people to gender-bend characters.
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OKAY, I NEED TO MAKE SOMETHING CLEAR
I understand that you want the team you support to win, expecially if the team is not from Europe. But talking shit about croatia and saying croatia is same as western europe's teams is insane. Like girl, do you know history? Croatia wasn't colonizator and we have suffered so much through history, we literally had war 30 years ago, same as ukraine now. I had enough of arguing with toxic fans last 2 days, saying racist things about slavic people. check your facts before you speak.
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akookminsupporter · 4 months
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JIMIN AND JUNGKOOK AND THE HATE THEY DON'T DESERVE.
Being part of this fandom when your biases are Jimin and Jungkook is not easy. Forget about whether you believe there is something more between them; being a fan of them in this fandom is difficult. Every day is a new reason to feel helpless, upset, disappointed, and afraid that they see all the hatred they receive. Hatred they don't deserve, particularly Jimin.
I will never tire of saying how wonderful Jimin is and that, even though I don't know him, I can tell he is a good person, friend, and colleague. A respectful, affectionate, hardworking, dreamy person. One of those people who doesn't seem real, one of those people who are perfectly imperfect. And that's why I'll never understand why he receives so much hatred and why many in this fandom allow it.
Jimin has always been the number one enemy of Taekookers and many Solos, for different reasons but one in common: envy. These groups have always been able to say whatever they want about Jimin, and practically nothing, aside from his fans and Jikookers is said in response. And what's worse, when these fans say something to defend Jimin, they are labelled as Solos or reduced to mere shippers. Jimin cannot be defended, apparently.
The hatred they, particularly Jimin, have been receiving since their trip to Japan with Jungkook was announced is sad. What has happened since before the rumours that Jimin and Jungkook would enlist together in the army came out has crossed all kinds of limits. Jimin has been insulted in the vilest ways I have ever seen in my life, and virtually no one says anything—no one, except the usual ones, of course. When the rumours surfaced in the Korean press, the hatred intensified. Haters once again realized that they could say and do whatever they wanted, and nothing would happen to them because, once again, the fandom, in general, did nothing to defend Jimin, to silence the haters. Funny how that doesn't happen when it comes to another member.
After Big Hit confirmed that not only Jimin and Jungkook would enlist together but also that they would do it under a special program that guaranteed they would be together for the duration of their military service, hell broke loose. Disinformation became an everyday thing, insults, mockery too, and the target remains the same: Jimin.
You are guilty when you do something wrong, but you are also guilty when you do nothing when you see others doing something wrong. I believe even the latter is worse. Jimin and Jungkook decided to apply for a program that guarantees they will be together throughout their military service for reasons they only know and don't have to disclose, nor do they have to give explanations. That decision, which surely was not easy to make, must be respected by everyone, period. Not questioned, not belittled, not explained to fit into absurd narratives.
The way Taekookers always paint Jungkook as this manipulable person, incapable of making his own decisions, who always does what the company, according to them, tells him is deplorable, disrespectful, and further proof that they don't care about Jungkook. The way I've seen many diagnose Jungkook with different things, in treating Jimin as a helpless and weak being who needs a bodyguard with him to say that they applied to the program because they had to and not because they wanted to is insulting. And yet virtually no one says anything.
Jimin and Jungkook will never be the enemies that many want them to be. They will always be the two members who seem to be the closest. They will always be the ones who understand each other with just a look. They will always be the ones with the same sense of humour, who laugh in the same way, and who simply share more things in common. They will always be the ones who promised to go to the moon together and the ones who seem to have no secrets from each other. Those who comfort each other, who are there when one is sick etc.
JIMIN AND JUNGKOOK WILL NEVER BE THE ENEMIES MANY WISH THEM TO BE.
Reducing all the hatred they are receiving right now, and that they have always received, to a shipping issue is insulting, it's cowardly. If your conclusion is to blame Jikookers only, ignoring absolutely everything that Taekookers say daily, what Solos and akgaes say daily, let me tell you that you are a hater too. And you are, in a way, worse. YOU are the problem. If you are unable to stand up for them because you think it will make you a shipper, you are the problem because it goes beyond that. If you are afraid to defend the love, affection and trust that they obviously have for each other, if you are afraid to acknowledge that they are close, that they are great friends, you are the problem too. No one is asking you to accept that Jimin and Jungkook are married or anything like that, what many of us would expect from everyone who claims to be a fan of BTS, is to defend the members of EVERYTHING and EVERYONE. If you are incapable of doing that, you are the problem too. You are also a HATER.
I hope the time the boys are in the army serves to clean up this fandom from so much rubbish. I hope they find a fandom that supports all seven of them unconditionally when they return. That respects them and only wants the best for them.
But in this life, nothing is that easy, right? I'm afraid to think about what they will say when the documentary is released and what will happen when whatever Jimin and Jungkook filmed together is released. In a way, I'm glad they won't be here when all that comes out because the chances of them not seeing any of that will be high.
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Let’s be honest here, the only reason why Viv’s fans attack anyone that draws redesigns is because said redesigns are better than the source material.
Why is that people who don’t work on the show understand that Angel and Vaggie are supposed to have a spider and moth motif, but Viv (The person who created these characters.) doesn’t?
Even the people who don’t know anything about demonology get that Beelzebub makes more sense as a giant bee/fly than a sparkle dog.
Most animated shows have a bunch of character designers on staff, so they can share ideas when it comes to a character’s design.
But not Viv’s shows! Viv is only one who has final say on what the main cast should look like, while the character designers are only allowed to design a bunch of background incidentals, who end up looking a hell of a lot more appealing than the main cast.
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If you’re an artist who enjoys drawing redesigns, please don’t let Viv and her fandom’s toxic behavior discourage you from doing what you love.
Yes, there are artists who only draw redesigns because they wanna “Fix” a certain design, and those assholes shouldn’t be given any attention, but most of the people who do redesigns of Viv’s characters do it for fun.
With that being said, if you are an artist who’s thinking about posting your Hazbin/Helluva redesigns online, please be aware that the fans will end up harassing you, so be careful out there.
Also, I don’t blame anyone who says that they don’t want to draw redesigns of Viv’s characters because of how toxic the fanbase is.
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bahja-blix · 2 months
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😐💀Longish Post regarding Vivziepops Stans (POC Woman Speaks up)
TW: The following post mentions serious topics: S*icide, bullying, racism, and other topics, viewer discretion is advised (and No I do not know whom originally sat here and typed this post I don't want to know)
So I saw this image floating around and I as a Bisexual biracial Woman of color wanted to speak up about this because if y'all think it's hilarious or cool to say dumb shit on the Internet and not expect to get called out for your crap by reasonable people that you yourself put yourself out there for then your dead wrong.
Let's take a look amigos
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Let's start from the beginning
This person who's an obvious biased boot licker who deliberately put themselves out there on the Internet ON PURPOSE said all of This!
Here's some things I completely disagree with because in their own words:
"You probably heard over and over again that Viv is a terrible person who's toxic that made all kinds of terrible things in the past but I assure you, (even if it's true) these stories are all "completely fake" and "made up" and that Viv is "flawed" and makes mistakes like all of us and that she "doesn't deserve" the "hate" and "bad faith" comments"
"I have decided to "fund" the "StopVivziepophate" train because poor ol Viv is sweet and innocent and we as fandom must stick it to these "critics" and express to vivziepop our eternal love and "actively convince" people (without any proof btw) that Vivziepop has done absolutely "nothing wrong" at all and we must defend her to the ends of the Earth because I said so and thats the Truth. You guys are liars and bigots and racist and are anti progressive"
Vivziepop has proved Time and Time again that she's a deliberately toxic shitty ass dumbass of person and has gotten much WORSE over the years! That is a FACT! She HAS made shitty, questionable, nasty things in her past artworks depicting minors, Nazi shit, racist shit and other stuff! This is a FACT and can be proven!
These Critical people on the Internet are All people who Used to LOOK UP to Viv because she was inspirational, saw right through her bullshit, and decided to call her out For said bullshit that she inflicted on herself especially nowadays seemingly on the daily. These Critical people who used to look up to Viv often back up their claims using pictures and evidence to Prove what they say! Vivziepop is a person who has proven that she is ass backwards on an absolute altitude of ways through thick and thin.
Viv refuses to back up her claims, do basic research on complicated topics regarding many things, weaponizes her fanbase to silence Anyone and Everyone regardless of who they are or what they identify as who speaks up or validly critiques her foolishness, never improves on herself as a person and chooses to carry herself in a negative way that affects her overall character and the people around her, bullies or judges anyone who chooses a different path, didn't call out her cult of a fanbase out for bullying Shay into suicide, and the list goes on.
What are you Stans going to prove huh? That we as a critical are right? There's an abundance of evidence against Viv yet your going to sit here and make a post like this?
Please tell me what you said is Bait!
Viv absolutely deserves EVERYTHING that people throw at her ESPECIALLY regarding the fact that Shay is no longer with us because Vivziepops cult of a fanbase brutally bullied Shay into s*icide over a fictional ship that these hypocritical Stans supported Before their new ship with Alastor came out with a different character
And Viv also absolutely deserves to be criticized for hiring a disgusting person with a r*pe fetish who's NOT a s*xual assault victim at All who also fetishizes r*pe and let this person illustrate and write their own sick fantasies into HER SHOW which she actively supported and still supports!
She's Shit All Around!
lastly...
"Most" of the "hate" comes from the "fact" that she's both *Checks notes* 🧐 "inserts identity politics here"
"Woman and Hispanic" ahh yes who Could've thought that poor ol Viv was being targeted simply because of her identity! Why as if I didn't hear that BS before as a fucking POC woman myself
People are "totally not" validly criticizing her for actual shit she does to herself on purpose
We critics are "totally" all just "making up" shit regardless of clear as day evidence, articles, or any picture evidence we have and are "totally jealous" over her success
We critics totally dunk on Viv because we're magically all racist, bigots, or istaphobes even though we're of varying backgrounds and identities and don't dunk on her for the bullshit you pulled out your ass because you decided to do what some far left thinking people would do. Blame the entire world for X, Y, Z using their identity as a shield even though vivziepop herself got caught! BY HER OWN POLITICAL PARTY which is the left.
Let me bring up a successful Black YouTuber who's indie for Black History Month whom I support and followed for years and bought his comics! Since you wanna blame the world for people criticizing Viv for her identity, I've decided to use an excellent example! He may not be a woman but he's Black so... :D let's begin
You wanna know who's Black and made millions of dollars because of his comics and is successful? Youngrippa59! Yes the Black Libertarian himself who made the Rippaverse, ISOM, and ALPHA CORE and made millions of dollars in short periods of time who also helped successfully dominated the comic book industry when it was dying! He's Not a conservative btw!
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Heres one of his most recent successful projects ALPHACORE
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Look at this! A Black person made this! He's successful! He didn't use his race as a shield. He ain't Viv but doesn't have to be! That's the beauty of him because he doesn't have to be the richest, or the most popular!
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His message to everyone! Mr. Rippa also known as Eric July is one of my biggest inspirations to this day and this is why! People who were on the far left decided to attack him (it's been proven btw) but y'all say your for "diversity" and "inclusion" but when a black person becomes successful now it's an issue???
I Can't imagine what will fly outta your mouths when I become successful with my own shows behind the scenes... As diverse as I am as a biracial, bisexual, goth, God damn X, Y, Z, I Don't pander, I observe what everyone wants through multiple people!
Now,
Vivziepop is a woman who's a biracial Hispanic! I am ALSO a woman who's a biracial Hispanic
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As a biracial Hispanic I'm more Puerto Rican looking IRL. Viv is a biracial Salvadoran Hispanic but looks more "white" because maybe she has more European family members. My family is made up of mainly Puerto Ricans on both sides of the family some European. I have dark eyes and dark naturally curly hair too. Few have said I can pass as "Indigenous" because of my features and tanned skin. Regardless my point still stands! I don't actively use my identity as a shield and neither should you!
I don't want to know who sat here and typed up that post! I as a woman of color of the brown community am still sick of this! Like who's saying they hate Viv because she's Hispanic? Huh? Who? Who's dunking on her for simply being a woman too???
Prove to me by providing solid concrete evidence by pictures or tweets or something else actually showing me people are dunking on Viv because she's both "Woman/Hispanic"! Well I tell you now that that shit Doesn't happen and if it does, it's a VERY SMALL minority that are saying shit for bait reasons or to be an asshole on purpose to get a reaction. The fact this person decided to say "Most hate comes from her race and being a woman" is BS because they cant even take the time to dig up evidence of this to prove it!
Show don't tell not TELL DONT SHOW goddamnit!
Legit you wanna play the race x woman card so badly then BACK IT UP with actual evidence or someone like me with more than two functioning brain cells will call you out.
I'm sorry but I agree with the critics on this one because they're not wrong for calling Viv out!
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lily-s-world · 1 month
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Bridgerton: Drops Queen Charlotte to give a backstory about two beloved characters of the show.
Some Fans: Where's Polin???!!! We need them now.
Bridgerton: Delivers Polin clips and information on the show.
Some Fans: Okay.
Bridgerton: Also adds a clip about Kanthony, one of the most popular couples in the show.
Some Fans: Y'all just hate Polin at this point. You won't even develop Colin's right because you don't show him! You are ruining it!!
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missmissyworld · 4 months
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Message to all the toxic fans! You can be critical of one or all three of them, but there’s no need for personal insults or get ugly towards them. This toxicity has no place in the fandom and needs to stop. They’re human beings, not punching bags, to take your issues out on. Please grow up.
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cassowariess · 6 months
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wheezing. cry harder, you little bitch.
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hazbinbossbrainrot · 2 months
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Dustmoth / Radiohusk fans: Eww! You like Huskerdust/Stolitz? That’s so toxic! Don’t you know that’s Stockholm Syndrome?
Stolitz / Huskerdust fans:
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minniiaa · 2 months
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finally realized the reason one piece twitter is so toxic
… it’s where all straight men are
Tumblrs got all the girlies, gay, and nonbinary theys who are just floating around on lil clouds making art and writing stories/headcanon of their favorite characters and ships
The twitter zoro dickriders and powerscalers would fall out their chairs if they stepped foot into this place and saw that no one is out here arguing that zoro could beat bb and akainu in a 1 v 2
(If you are a straight man reading this and do none of these things then you are one of the good ones. please keep doing what you’re doing.)
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dreams-are-paper-thin · 5 months
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The worst part about being in a fandom is the ship wars me thinks 🫠😵‍💫😖 chill out, the world is not gonna end if someone likes a different ship than you
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ms-cartoon · 2 months
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This just further proves my point. . . . .
These fans really wanna treat Viv like she's some frikin saint from god who made the most gracious thing on earth. If even one person says anything along the lines of, "I kinda don't like Hazbin. The writing could use some work." Then you're automatically the bad guy to Viv and her d*ckriders.
Okay . . . maybe I can't expect everyone to side with or believe Viv's former team members, but at least take some slight consideration. Don't just make assumptions.
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I love how @chuuya-hate-blog tries to harass people but is so genuinely incompetent that most of the fandom thinks of them as entertainment
They remind me of these gems
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I wouldn't care if they just posted their opinions and left it at that, but since they go out of their way to harass people and insult artists and fans because they have the maturity of a toddler i feel no guilt for making fun of them.
If they start harassing you, block and report them, they have a few accounts and waaaayy too much time on their hands, so they'll probably come back a few time, if they do just keep blocking and reporting, engaging with them will only make things worse
also just a side note, i feel like if you have a dedicated account for a character you "hate" you are more obssesed with them then 99% of their fans
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akookminsupporter · 3 months
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https://twitter.com/GoldenJKUnivers/status/1748742074185154935?t=rvi_1o83g8WOELPRcXV9fQ&s=19
I followed this one because they seem professional
But their last tweets about the leak and invasion of the privacy
They are so focused on blaming jikook accounts and acting as if it's fabricated by them
And I didn't see them that hotheaded with tkkrs
Just disappointed
I didn't quite understand what had happened but after a couple of hours reading several tweets I understood, or so I think.
First of all, I want to say that whether it was real information or not, it is wrong to share it because we as a fan have to understand immediately that information like that should not be made public. It's a matter of common sense, in my opinion. I think one of the many responsibilities we have as a fan, is to try to find out the veracity and the way in which the information we read or see was obtained, mainly when we don't find it in the usual channels of communication. That is something that was not done initially by several accounts and I think the jikookers who rushed to share it deserve the scolding, that said, it's funny how again only jikookers ended up being the bad guys in the story.
From what I read, the information was initially posted by a k-jkker. I also read that the account is a Solo Stan. Some jikookers shared the information and then it was later spread that the information shared had been illegally obtained/posted. Jungkook's privacy had been violated. Jikookers then deleted their posts.
After that it gets a bit confusing. But one thing that was clear is that jikookers were accused and sentenced as the bad guys of the story. Again. The irony is that this was mostly done by the subgroup and Solo Stans. The other funny part is that these groups concentrated on reiterating that the information was false. That jikookers had made it up. Ignoring the fact who had been the account that initially posted the information.
Many concentrated on attacking jikookers and saying over and over again that the information was false, some even claimed that Jungkook would never say something like that. I don't know how it came out that the information is false but that shouldn't be the focus of the discussion, what we should be talking about is whether someone read that information, real or not and didn't think it sounded like something private, something that shouldn't have been published and decided to post instead.
Instead of reporting the account that started it all, many started attacking jikookers.
That's what several people like the one in the link you sent have done. Yes, it is right to say that this kind of information should not be shared. It's okay to scold or expose accounts that share that information. It's fine to demand respect for members' privacy but it's funny how many seem to focus on the fact that the information is apparently false. And how they are using that fact to mock and attack jikookers again.
But this is not really surprising.
What I hope we have all learned from what happened today is that any information that is obtained about the guys during this period of their lives should not be immediately shared without first finding out how that information was obtained. Obviously, this is something we should always do as fans but I think even more so now. We don't have to know absolutely everything the members do in the army.
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supremechancellorrex · 11 months
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It's one thing for a jedi apologist to oddly claim Slick was lying about wanting freedom and lying that the Jedi "kept [his] brothers enslaved", it's another for that someone to become increasingly hostile with their reblogs and tags just because others like me disagree as well as misrepresenting, dismissing and even calling other people's opinions "propaganda" like we're the Kremlin.
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Hmm. My 'bad' I dared stumble on their blog in my feed and disagree with them on a post or two by saying I felt the Jedi could have done more for the clone troopers and Ahsoka in canon, which they started aggressively responding to weeks later.
But, the crowning moment of toxicity? They compared my point that I can criticise the Jedi Order, their actions and still enjoy Jedi characters while still acknowledging their flaws... to being 'homophobic', right during Pride Month. Since I'm gay, that is a gross tactic I can't abide.
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Just great. Disingenuously using real-life, minority groups as a meat shield for your fictional, magical lightsaber favs really shows your priorities in life. Overzealous stans, whatever fictional character or group you're stanning, stop using real minority groups as meat shields to protect your feelings and your favourite characters from criticism.
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bahja-blix · 2 months
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You speak the whole truth on that post especially the part where you bring up how viv stans be quick to pull the race card like coming from a black women i don’t give a damn that Vivzepop is Salvadoran Hispanic SHE STILL NEEDS TO BE CALLED OUT FOR MAKING RACIST STEREOTYPE CHARACTERS 👋🏾👏🏾👋🏾😤
hello Anon and Thank you mate, I agree! on twitter they play that race card left n right because that's the Best they can come up with instead of making a real counter argument. She absolutely deserves everything coming for her because she inflicts problems onto herself on purpose.
Viv is a person who doesn't want peace, She wants problems ALWAYS!!!
Now between me and you we both know viv will never listen to anyone unless they actively boot lick her and get dirty doing so. Viv is racist intentionally or unintentionally and doesn't care either way as long as it benefits her getting all that money and fame at the end of the day. That's why she sucks because she Never EVER Listens Ever !!
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