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willknightauthor · 1 year
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What happens in the Dolorian church in Martinaise is a profound bit of worldbuilding. At first Elysium seems like a normal, secular world, and if anything it's surprising how absent religion is from it. Liberalism has become the religion. The only real reminder that Moralism was once a fully functioning world religion is the abandoned and broken church west of the lock.
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But learning about the pale point, the history of the churches, it makes sense now. The pale is directly interacting with human thought and society because they are both manifestations of information in the universe, in an evolving dialectic. Dolores Dei pulled information from the future and literally expanded the world by inspiring others with her dream. She was, by the standards of our world, a prophet. The churches, built around nascent points of pale particles, are a social attempt to control the pale through the collective act of ritual dreaming. By dreaming the divine, humanity pushes back the death of the world, for a moment.
By the time the game takes place, that side of Moralism is long dead. The churches have been abandoned and their function forgotten. Moralism has degenerated into liberalism. The Revolution was a moment of mass dreaming, of the future manifesting itself. It was the best hope to push back the Pale, but the MoralIntern crushed it, and restored global stagnancy. Growing entropy is accelerating the consumption of the world by the Pale, and no-one knows what to do because there is no future, only past.
Harry though, depending on how you play him, has the potential to start the reversal of this process, if just in Martinaise. The man who has effectively dedicated himself to a kind of monastic worship of the Pale (unknowingly) is the first one to start the process. (Never give anyone too much credit, even Harry.) But if Harry helps the homeless ravers start a club in the Church, he is effectively helping to start a new ritual community with the same properties as the old Moralist Church, right under the pale point.
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If you get Noid to warm up to you, you learn he's a kind of organic existential philosopher. He even discourses with Tiago. He and the others don't just party as a hedonistic act, they maintain partying as a kind of ritual act of life affirmation and contemplation, an attempt to transcend themselves and realize something new and powerful. In short, they are reaching into the future to create something new. It's ridiculous 90s Euro club music, but the way they do it it's as ritually powerful as any church service.
This ties into the more general theme of Disco Elysium, that the human power to dream of a new future and then collectively act to bring it about is a powerful act of creation that pushes back the boundaries of the universe, and is necessary for our species to even survive. To crush the revolution, to crush democracy, is to crush the future. Elysium has killed God, but they haven't gotten to the next stage of becoming gods.
Dolorian humanism ironically does not end up elevating human beings. Only the communards had a chance at elevating humanity to a level of creative consciousness that would allow them to tame the Pale the same way they used to with religion. And the revolutionaries, even though the Moralists never recognized them as such, were likely pulling from the future as much as Dolores Dei. Kras Mazov will never be recognized as an Innocent, but in terms of prophesying and inspiring people with a dream which could push back the Pale, he effectively was.
Now with the revolution at a low point, the world is in a kind of existentialist limbo, lacking the conviction of faith in either the divine or the future. The old is dead, but the new cannot be born. What happens in Martinaise is the beginning of the return of that faith.
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“This is the Church of the Mother of Silence.
You are welcome here.”
Acrylic on canvas
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dolorianwolf · 10 months
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Cindy brought cuno to book club/art session
So long as people keep enjoying these I’m not gonna stop making them
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miragecounseling · 19 days
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happy trans visibility day ♥
○ tiago, khi's academic rival and secret love (he/they) ○ fleur, fox's love interest but she doesn't know their secret!!! (she/her) ○ callista, my cute modremvari (they/them) ○ keir / harrison fox, the pirate captain turned good that is also secretly a dragon (he/him when presenting as human solely to keep up the ruse, but any pronouns are fine)
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feintenstein · 11 months
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about requests how about a crab man who holds a real coconut crab or something silly with Harry? :3
I love this prompt !
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damiendo · 4 months
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Félicien Araud (Tiago) : le nouveau venu dans "Un si grand soleil"
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sonokido · 1 year
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seems like a competitive field this year!!
all my f1 characters, lined up for your viewing pleasure
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rupsttus · 1 year
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headcanons for Tiago's appearance in adolescence +comparison (i am completely normal, you can trust me with characters with five minutes of screen time)
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versiculosbiblicos · 1 year
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yngwersfanartdump · 7 months
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Discotober day 26; the church played a bit around with different overlays and filters feels a bit weird, cause I'm not used to this look, but maybe it can come in handy
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Pressing need to get Tiago's opinions on all things Ambrosius. Also paledriver but I'm 99.5% sure she'll be all in, she's the poster child hot grandma for the whole movement. Tiago though? Is this what he wants?
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yekokataa · 1 year
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ai fishing village drunks and their sober friend who is now a hat
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revacholsidetournament · 10 months
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DE SIDE CHARACTER TOURNAMENT - MATCH 39, GROUP B FIRST ELIMINATION ROUND
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Cunoesse Vittulainen is a vulgar young Surunese girl. Her only friend in the world is Cuno, who found her shocked and in hiding some time ago.
Tiago is the mysterious man who crawls in the rafters of the church, worshiping what he calls the "Mother in Silence," or the Pale spilling out of the image of Dolores Dei.
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alonolaart · 1 year
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TIAGO – "This is the Church of the Mother of Silence. You are welcome here." He sways gently on the beams, waiting for you to take it all in.
Another in my series of Disco Elysium patches. This one was at the request of my partner 🦀
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evieebun125 · 10 months
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found my tablet pen and decided i needed to draw the squad<3
Tiago belongs to @esperanzagalaxy
Marrow belongs to @stuffandsuchrqg
Matthaus belongs to @angryducktimemachine
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dwarffeed · 1 year
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