#these are rude ass people

[pikp0kcas3]

The Hazbin Hotel fandom’s issue with accepting aromanticism and asexuality

Now that it is officially Aromantic Spectrum Awareness Week, I want to talk about this!

I find that, as an aroace myself, I am constantly grasping at good representation and coming up empty— it usually ends up in one of two ways.

One: the character is portrayed as emotionless, cold, and robotic in nature. It’s the question aromantic and/or asexual people are often asked: “Are you heartless?” The answer is no, of course, but general media makes it out to be the opposite.

Or two: Their lack of attraction is seen as something to “fix” because they “haven’t found the right one yet”, and they end up with a partner as a “happy ending”.

It frustrates me greatly because of how little people actually see aromanticism or asexuality as a true part of the LGBTQIA+ community.

So when I watched Hazbin Hotel, and I found out about Alastor being aroace, I was over the moon. I was on cloud nine. I also saw how his voice actor has looked up the term as an attempt to learn about aroaces, which makes me OVERJOYED?? Amir is truly a blessing, and I love that he’s proud to embody a character that’s part of our community. It’s so beautiful to finally have a proper character, a fan favorite at that, who just so happens to be aroace— and that’s another thing I love about this.

It’s never explicitly stated in the show (though it is stated in interviews), but it’s rather clear when you’re watching, isn’t it? Alastor’s aversion to any sort of sexual advancement, coupled with Rosie’s blatant “I know you’re an ace in the hole” comment sort of spell out his asexuality pretty clearly, as well as what side of the spectrum he falls upon. In addition, his Valentine’s day card was strictly platonic, which caters to his aromantic side. It feels so validating to finally be represented, to finally have a character in media who shares the same lack of interest in romance and sex as I do.

When I entered the fandom to look for more content, I kind of expected to see the same respect for Alastor’s orientation there too. But that… wasn’t the case? I am fully aware that aromanticism and asexuality are both spectrums— of course, aromantic and/or asexual people can enter those kinds of relationships. I’m not denying that and they belong in the community as much as anyone else on the spectrum.

But, the more I see the same line again and again and again, the more it feels like an excuse to just ship what you want.

Usually I don’t mind shipping? I’m often a firm believer in people shipping what they like as long as it’s harmless and they don’t go crazy over it. I also know for a fact that Viv doesn’t have a problem with people shipping her characters. They are fictional, after all.

But in this case, people are ignoring the very thing that makes Alastor a part of the aroace community! People are ignoring his lack of romantic or sexual attraction!

Is this not the same as changing a gay character’s orientation to suit a straight ship? If not, how so? I’m told that we are a part of this community, so why aren’t we being treated like it? Why is it so hard to accept the people on the end of the spectrum who aren’t interested?

Something I’ve been noticing throughout my life is that society has not exactly progressed very much on the idea of accepting asexual or aromantic identities. Maybe we have, a little, since the old days— but hell, people in “the old days”, which in truth wasn’t very long ago, believed that asexuality was a medical condition to be “fixed” by taking the right medication or having sex. That’s a pretty low bar to clear. And on the romance side, you’re seen as a “late bloomer” or “boring” if you don’t express interest. These days, being friends with someone is treated like a gateway to them possibly becoming a lover. Not getting married, not going on dates, not wanting a partner— it’s all treated like a crime when it’s not.

Maybe I’m selfish, or sensitive, or I’m butthurt over nothing, or I’m making it all about me. Maybe I’m gatekeeping or whatever the term is. But please, please, please, I just want an aroace character like me who simply is not interested in sex or romance.

And I want fandom to respect that. I admire the creations that fans make— the art, the animatics, the writing and the character analysis. And I want people to keep creating because creation is indeed a beautiful thing.

But I really would like people to treat aroace identities like they’re important. Like it’s more than just a spectrum to get wiggle room to wrangle in another ship.

#aromantism #aromantic #aroace #asexual #hazbin hotel #alastor #hazbin alastor #lgbtqia #alastor aroace #PLEASE i just want people to LEAVE HIM ALONE #“but it’s a spectrum” STOP USING IT AS AN EXCUSE #RESPECT AROACE PEOPLE WITH ZERO INTEREST IN ROMACE AND SEX #let us have this #we barely get anything as it is #but just to clarify i don’t believe that most people are being intentionally rude about it #nor am i discouraging people from creating fan content because it is FAN CONTENT and you can express yourself #i just would like people to understand a little more that #yes it is a spectrum and it covers an extremely wide range of orientations #yes ANYONE who identities as someone on the spectrum is completely valid #if you wanna argue with that i am showing you the door and kicking your sorry aphobic ass out #my point is that the spectrum is not a loophole. it is not an excuse and it is NOT okay to just use it willy nilly for your convenience

[n0ahsferatu]

pov you are a locked chest or perhaps someone bleeding to death

#hello 🤙 #it has been 84 years i am SO SORRY #im genuinely going to try to stick around this time!! #this may be a broken ass website but you people are lovely and i have missed you :3 #anyWAY. VIDDY GAME #noah gaël gamer era #baldur’s gate 3 is not a video game it is a magical place that stores all my boyfriends #you can have this weirdo though i don’t want him #/lying #but he is still SO RUDE. TO MY TAV #every morning my tav wakes up and casts lesser restoration on himself and this is how astarion repays him? #worthless boy. mean and impolite #he keeps getting away with it because I’m still silly about him though :( #baldurs gate 3 #baldurs gate fanart #baldurs gate astarion #astarion #bg3 #bg3 fanart #bg3 astarion #artists on tumblr #digital artist #illustrators on tumblr #noah.jpg

[saphirdevil]

HSL ep 36-37 was wild.... it wa sso fun to play with friends

#my candy love #amour sucre #mcl castiel #mcl kentin #mcl nathaniel #mcl #fanart #xavi ocs #other people's oc #xavi art #THE SHADE THESE MEN HAVE... #unprovocked... although it do be funny #ALSO THE LOVE INTERESTEST AND CANDY KISSES SO MUCH I WAS EMBARASSED REAIDNG IT ALL WHEN STREAMING TO FRIENDS #LIKE THIS REALLY DO BE PDA #ITSCRAZY #made me miss castiel and her rude ass #its that bad guys

[canisalbus]

Everyone's talking about how cute raccoons are, and while i agree wholeheartedly, all i can think about it the time i was at camp and i woke up to raccoons in our tent cause one was patting my ass through my cot, and then another grabbed one of the other girls' hands and she screamed and our councilor had to literally sweep the raccoons out of our tent with the broom she grabbed to hit intruders with lol. we made extra sure everything was zipped all the way closed after that

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#I keep forgetting that raccoons are an actual existing animal that people come across like it's no big deal #as you may know I'm from Finland and we don't have raccoons here so to me they feel very ~exotic~ #same for opossums and skunks #the american trash mammal trifecta #also armadillos those are extremely cool #“patting my ass through the cot” how rude #answered #anonymous #I've said this before but would love to see an opossum one day they are Such Creatures

[mueritos]

its crazy how coming into clinical social work, i really just thought I was up against systems and cycles of trauma....but it turns out i'm up against those two things AND other therapists. the amount of work spent correcting mistakes from other clinicians--whether with clients or during the classroom--is fucking crazy.

i totally get we're all on different journeys in terms of being clinicians. but it is insane finding out day after day of therapists and clinicians saying the worst things ever to clients. demeaning them, telling them "it's all in their head", the racism and the ableism and harm that is caused. like no fucking wonder people are afraid to seek therapy (on top of the accessibility issues). while i'm a little biased and think that at the very least clinical social work training focuses on viewing people within their environments (so not engaging in the medical/individualist models of practice that a lot of counseling programs focus on), that doesn't mean it gives every person the skills to be an effective therapist. i'm also not saying i'm the best clinician ever--I'm literally in training--but boy! it is jarring seeing how some of my peers interact in class and wondering...is that how you are with your clients??

my social work program at the very least also has a focus on anti-racism, but i know students from other programs and some of them don't even mention racism AT ALL and focus entirely on diagnosing people "correctly", or finding the perfect form of therapy to use on a client. but man, what none of these programs teach are basic life skills. wanting to be a clinician isn't enough, especially considering that an inhumane amount of people in my program are 1. so nervous about making mistakes that they lose scope of their practice 2. have so much internalized racism/white guilt to work thru 3. or they have absolutely no listening skills.

again, im not trying to make it seem like I am the number 1 clinician in the world ever. I don't even have a psych background or bachelor's in social work. my reasons for going into social work are quite selfish (I want a job that is very flexible, easily transferable, and can be done in different contexts), and the helping people part is just a plus. i'm just saying it's very jarring seeing other people in training and realizing they too are working with clients. i have conversation after conversation about these issues with other BIPOC/queer/marginalized clinicians, so I know i'm not the only person worried about some of the people that will be out of this program in a few years practicing on their own or with vulnerable populations.

#muerto talks #just rambling #maybe im just a hater virgo with a strong sense of justice #i am just forever perplexed #learning that some of my classmates believe that you can be racist to white people is crazy #learning that some of my classmates are rude and dismissive to BIPOC students but they work in BIPOC communities #learning that some of my classmates weaponize their mental illnesses as an excuse to act shitty to professors classmates or clients is craz #there are zionists??? trying to be social workers?????? #i literally have classes with zionists #some people r doing a whole ass career change because they had a spiritual calling to help people?? #again not saying im such a great clinician im in training just like the rest of my program #but you cannot like tell me to even try to be hopeful about some of the people who will be my collegues in a year #because i have no hope for them #and its going to take making serious mistakes for them to maybe snap out of it #and that fucking sucks #nothing in my body feels safe around those people #like idc maybe im an elitist with impossible standards #maybe im the one asking too much from these people..... #the cognitive dissonance is real in these people man

[rainymoodlet]

morris 0.0005 seconds after george was born: hey… we should make another one 😏

#ts4 #ts4 screenshots #ts4 gameplay #ts4 stardew valley #sim: morris #sim: kameyo #sim: georgie #;stardew #|| #good morning everyone!! 👋 #i’m at work~ opening starbucks 💪 fjdjfj it smells like coffeeee #morris is legitimately so obsessed with his wife he just STARES AT HER all the time #its so precious #they were instantly on their way to use ww i had to cancel it THREE TIMES #fhfjjfjf #anyway that rude ass anon from yesterday regardless #(which i reiterate: revoked y’alls anon priveleges until you learn to confront people face to face) #i’m still posting and kmik is still returning #i know i’ve upset a lot of my friends with my emotional absence and so i don’t doubt that like… #there’s hostility toward how active i appear on here versus showing up emotionally #i am Trying to claw my way back to some semblance of free time and free mental space #my job is exhaustingly physically demanding and i’m trying to make rent (which i won’t without my fiance’s paycheck and its just…) #i hate money :) #so have some simmies as i disappear into the voice goodbyeeee #mwah mwah mwah

[omgeto]

incoming tattoo artist boyfriend!geto...

#★ — emptalkshit! #I ACTUALLY HAVE ENOUGH IDEAS TO MAKE THIS LIKE A THING #geto gonna be rude as hell #just how I like him #but I have enough ideas to make this into like a thing #just imagine tattoo artist!geto who leaves u like little drawings and cute messages each day because he's an ofc amazing drawer #this is a lie since he wouldn't do that shit #kidding #but like ur first meeting w geto he'd be cocky as hell #but when he eventually becomes ur boyfriend he's obsessed with you #he likes when ur ass just sits and watches him tattoo and pierce people #and you let him use ur body to practice new designs and shi #and matching tattoos #THE MATCHING TATTOOS YOUD HAVE #geto îs the only person id have a matching tattoo with #even tho you guys say I write geto as sassy even tho I really dont try to #I think I dont write him that well yet tbf #anyways I think I may write this idk #like FIRST FIC will be either how u meet #or ill just start with established boyfriend!geto #and itll be like a jealous #angsty #smutty #lovely fic #so yeah #hm #we shall see #hm hm hmhmhmhmhm what to do what to do

[florwal]

sorry i use a lot of packs in my builds and save files but getting mad at me over it cuz i don’t create shit specifically accommodated to u is pointless… either pirate all the packs or don’t download my shit, nobody’s forcing u to play with them.

#i’m not spending hours/days on a build #or literal MONTHS of my life on a save #just to not utilize everything i have in my game #to make other people happy #rude ass anons go to hell challenge #goodbye

[madhbh]

also if you support Amber Heard fucking block me because I can’t actually believe people support her like did we WATCH the same trial for FUCKS sake

#amber heard #moop #justice for johnny depp #MEN ARE VICTIMS TOO #tbh most people removed their rude ass comments lol

[bloodheartz]

Just gonna say that mocking people for voicing their disappointment over the stream (spongebobscreamingwithflyingicecreamtruck.png “IN A CIVIL AND POLITE MANNER”) just makes you like. An asshole lmao. People are gonna be disappointed when they’re told they’re getting one thing and getting another no matter what, even if what they get instead is really good/funny.

#seeing this from both a lot of friends and mutuals and like! hey #as someone who is disappointed it’s really bothering me seeing people who I like say rude shit that applies to me? #like yeah. hlvrai fandom is annoying we know this. yeah there’s a lot of people being dicks abt this and they suck but like #dude this was the one thing getting me through finals and failing a class im allowed to say ‘hey im disappointed the thing related to my #special interest turned out to be a trick.’ even though I still enjoyed what I watched #like yeah. I’m upset. I’m really upset actually #not over the stream being a bait in switch but from peoples reactions to it on both sides of the fence lmao #everyone is being a big fucking baby over it. the hlvrai fans yelling about how much they hate RTVS ANNNNNND the people being like #‘erm if you’re disappointed you’re a fake fan. grow up. stay mad.’ like WOW #harassing RTVS over this makes you a loser. making fun of people for being disappointed makes you a loser. congratulations youre all a bunch #of whiny ass babies screaming at eachother and at each others throats over fucking half life funny #each and everyone one of you

[hella1975]

who let my flatmate host a houseparty surely i would have vetoed that. walking into the carnage of my living room and letting out a delicate gasp

#HELL AND HORROR. I quietly turned around and went back to my room #i am NAWT cleaning that up 😂😂😂 #it wasn’t even that good of a party basically it was her 21st bday so she invited all her sports society friends #(already a red flag. sports societies have never once produced a tolerable person) #and they are SO CLIQUEY but also weirdly awkward with each other? #like me and my mate had our own little pres hiding in my room for a bit bc the start of parties is always so awkward #and we were like we’d rather skip that and go down when everyone’s a little looser #but my flatmate was clearly dead stressed bc it was her party and she was hosting #and she’s always banging on about how much she likes these people and they’re sooo crazy #and soo fun and better than us etc etc like she’s RUDE about it #but last night she was so clearly stressed and trying to impress them and i was just like girl. is it ever that serious #so me and my mate finally came downstairs i shit you not EVERYONE WAS JUST ON THEIR PHONES #HELLO??? and we started talking and getting people to blow up balloons and shit and suddenly everyone was partying #we fr were the life of the party it was so odd 😭 #my flatmate though omdsss this girl was doing key after key #she came into my room at the start and i shit u not looked like she’d been punched in the nose #I was like girl i KNOW your ass is on ket gtfo #but yeah. generally a mediocre night. me and my mate made the most of the fact everyone else sucked #hella goes to uni

[just-a-whumping-racoon-with-wifi]

*everyone I’ve ever seen here, including myself*

“oh send me asks anytime I love chatting with people please. Please send me asks. Please interact. I want interaction.”

*also me*

“WHAT IF THEY DONT WANT ME TO INTERACT. WHAT IF IM INTERACTING WRONG”

#bitch there are clowns in a circus #we’re the circus #go ahead and be the clown #my other issue is that I get tired and then I get stupid friendly #and send weird ass things that are not rude or harmful but just #funny at the time #I’m like a little kid where very person is just friend #so I don’t always have the right level of interaction with people

[soukeyed]

ohhh my god you don't like sonadow? should we tell everyone? should we throw a party? should we invite r/SonicTheHedgehog

#ellie talks #being annoying for a second the amount of random ass Omg i hate sonadow posts you sonadow shippers r ruining things!!! posts i keep seeing #going INTO THE DAMN TAG is craaazy. #bring a little 2017 spirit into it and censor it like its a slur wont you. its just annoying as shit going into the tag just #to witness like 5 of these in a row #block buttons ur bff ;) tag filtering is ur bff ;) cry harder ;) #idgaf if u dislike them normally but do u need to broadcast it in a tag where people who like it will see !??!? just a bit rude #anyway the majority was one person who i assume was either a weird troll or like . 12 . but whatevs

[man-down-in-hatchet-town]

I relate to Jon Matteson because I too have been repeatedly and consistently told that my eye color is very off-putting to see and not really known what to do about it other than be just like "sorry they're just my eyes????"

#they're hazel #it's just that for whatever reason in a lot of lighting they come off as being the same shade as my ginger hair #and people decide they look orange and Do Not Like that #and I get it Jon's extremely blue eyes are a bit of a fandom in-joke and no harm is being meant by it #but it bothers me because I know how it feels to be on the receiving end of that and yeah it's not the worst but it's not great either #like don't people that something about their appearance they can't change makes you uncomfortable?? #Jon's a grown-ass man with a sense of humor and a strong relationship with his fans he can handle it #but that doesn't mean he should have to handle it or that it's not just plain rude #also Jon has the most beautiful eyes and he should be so proud of them #jon matteson

[notpercieved]

Why are people SURPRISED that Alhaitham is nice???

He IS nice, yes hes cold but not intentionally, thats just how he is but he doesnt mean it in a terrible way

He doesnt flaunt any form of superiority over someone since he even says that he personally doesnt value himself more than others, rather hes stating facts that comes o f f as being cocky when hes just saying what IS correct, hes blunt till the point where people often consider it as rude and arrogant but he sees it as something that is normal because thats literally how he is

Yes, being blunt isnt always a good thing and people should know when to say the truth, not lie but postpone it, but theres also a consideration that not everyone is able to always know social cues and multiple (including myself) struggle to pick them up often, and of course it comes with consequences just like how Alhaitham is heavily disliked by some of the professors or even other students for his "unacceptable" attitude

His entire SQ is also about how he doesnt care how others perceive him but puts his foot down when it endangers others even when he doesnt even know who they are and all he wants is just a simple life

Hes not mean nor a terrible person, hes actually a nice person

Just because someone DOESN'T fall into the *common* character type of being a happy go lucky, always cheerful and smiling person doesnt automatically make them mean

#rant #ramble #genshin impact #alhaitham #if you disagree then argue with the wall im not fighting you about this #sometimes i see how people hc certain characters and it gives me mental damage #esp the part where hes seen as rude and arrogant just because hes speaking his mind and not picking up social cues #maybe its because im also ND and i relate heavily in that aspect but still #word vomit #theres so many things i wanna point out about him but this is a long ass text and i dont feel like adding more into this mess of a text so #whatever lol

[das-a-kirby-blog]

oh nooo kirblr honey what happened this time....

#every time I hear about the nasty things people do behind the scenes and every time I feel sick from it #man that sucks major ass #if you are going to be rude to my mutuals you might as well block me :/ #know that you are WAY better than this and you WILL mature from all of this #but for now....not cool dude... #ask to tag