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browsethestacks · 10 months
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Marvel Age (1985)
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scarlet--wiccan · 1 year
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And yes, it was the same Salem's Seven that captured Wanda and Vision back in V&SW. Their attempt to sacrifice Wanda as part of a magic ritual is what led to Wanda's pregnancy. Wanda disrupted the ritual by absorbing the magical powers of New Salem's entire population.
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This excess power boosted her natural abilities, but was nearly impossible for her to control. Wanda was able to remain grounded thanks to the Vision, and her desire to start a family with him caused Wanda to inadvertantly use the magical power to conceive her sons, Billy and Tommy. This is an early example of how Wanda's Nexus abilities and chaos magic can be used to alter reality-- by channeling and absorbing external magical powers, Wanda is able to achieve things than an ordinary magician could not, but it's not easy for her to control. The magic typically follows her subconscious thoughts and emotions, which can be quite dangrous if her mind has been pushed to its limits, as we later see during the Darker Than Scarlet storyline, and then, most famously, Disassembled & House of M.
Historically, Wanda's reality-bending powers have come at a heavy cost. Even in recent stories, like Trial of Magneto, she's had to undergo difficult trials in order to accomplish her tremendous feats. Now that's she's absorbed the Darkhold and liberated herself from Chthon, she seems to have far greater control over these abilities. I'm happy that she's not at risk of losing her mind or accidentally summoning Mephisto anymore, but I'm hoping Orlando will find some other way to balance her powers out. Omnipotence is a real story-killer.
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Stephen delivering the children of his friends - Wanda Maximoff and Jessica Jones.
The Vision and the Scarlet Witch (1985) // The Pulse (2004)
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classicmarvelera · 6 months
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Marvel's Short Stories That Redefined Superhero Comics
In the rich tapestry of Marvel Comics, there are epic sagas and sweeping crossovers that capture our imaginations and define the superhero genre. However, some of the most profound and enduring tales are found in the pages of shorter stories—narratives that span four issues or fewer. These concise yet impactful stories have left an indelible mark on readership, the comic book industry, and how we perceive superheroes. Let's explore how these short stories, including "Powerless," reshaped the world of Marvel Comics
1. "X-Men: Days of Future Past" (Uncanny X-Men #141-142, 1981)
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"Days of Future Past" catapulted readers into a dystopian future where mutants are hunted to near extinction. This tale of time travel and the consequences of prejudice resonated deeply. It showcased the potential for comic books to address social issues, shining a spotlight on bigotry and discrimination. Its influence can be seen in subsequent X-Men stories that continue to tackle real-world problems
2. "The Kid Who Collects Spider-Man" (The Amazing Spider-Man #248, 1984)
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A single-issue masterpiece, this story touched the hearts of readers worldwide. It revealed the human side of superheroes, reminding us that these characters, despite their extraordinary abilities, are grounded in humanity. "The Kid Who Collects Spider-Man" humanized the superhero genre, emphasizing the impact these icons can have on fans
3. "Vision and the Scarlet Witch" (Vision and the Scarlet Witch #1-4, 1982)
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While not strictly a short story but much shorter than "Demon in a Bottle", this series explored the personal lives of two Avengers in an intimate and relatable way. It demonstrated that superheroes are not just costumes and powers but individuals with complex emotions and relationships. "Vision and the Scarlet Witch" (not The Vision and the Scarlet Witch 12 issues series) redefined the portrayal of personal lives within the superhero genre
4. "The Night Gwen Stacy Died" (The Amazing Spider-Man #121-122, 1973)
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The story that started the Bronze Age! This two-issue arc forever altered the perception of superhero storytelling. The death of Gwen Stacy was a turning point, showcasing that superheroes do not always emerge victorious and unscathed. It added a layer of realism and emotional depth to Spider-Man's world
5. "The Death of Jean DeWolff" (The Spectacular Spider-Man #107-110, 1985)
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A gritty murder mystery within Spider-Man's world, this story proved that superheroes can explore darker themes. It demonstrated the versatility of the genre, showing that it could tackle complex and mature subject matter
6. "God Loves, Man Kills" (Marvel Graphic Novel no. 5)
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This graphic novel delved into themes of prejudice and discrimination. It elevated the X-Men beyond mere superheroics, highlighting the allegorical nature of their struggle. "God Loves, Man Kills" made it clear that comics could be a powerful platform for social commentary
7. "The Trial of Reed Richards" (Fantastic Four #262-265, 1984)
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This storyline explored the legal ramifications of superhero actions. It demonstrated that superheroes are not above the law and can be held accountable for their actions. "The Trial of Reed Richards" added a layer of complexity to the superhero genre, reflecting real-world concerns
8. "Marvels" (Marvels #1-4, 1994)
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This four-issue limited series takes a unique approach by exploring the lives of ordinary people in a world filled with superheroes. It delves into themes of powerlessness and how everyday individuals navigate a world where superhuman abilities are the norm. "Marvels" offers a different perspective from the eye(s) of journalist Phil Sheldon on the Marvel Universe, highlighting the challenges faced by those who can't match the extraordinary feats of superheroes
In conclusion, these short stories within the Marvel Universe have left an enduring legacy. They impacted readers by addressing real-world issues, challenged the comic book industry to embrace mature and diverse storytelling, and redefined how we perceive superheroes. These tales remind us that beneath the masks and capes, superheroes are reflections of our own humanity, and their stories can be as complex and thought-provoking as any other literary genre
Marvel's short stories have proven that superhero comics are more than just entertainment; they mirror our world and aspirations. These concise narratives have shown that profound storytelling can occur within the limited confines of a few issues. They have opened the doors for deeper exploration of characters, themes, and societal issues, and they continue to inspire creators and readers alike to push the boundaries of what superhero comics can achieve
In a genre often associated with bombastic battles and larger-than-life conflicts, these short stories are a testament to the enduring power of storytelling and the ability of comics to engage our hearts and minds. As we celebrate the impact of these narratives, we are reminded that sometimes, the most significant stories come in the smallest packages
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truedarkhcld · 4 months
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Do you have any Wanda comic recommendations? I really want to know more about her because I honestly didn't like how the MCU whitewashed her and Pietro and took away their Jewish and Romani heritage.
Aaron Taylor-Johnson gets somewhat of a pass as he's Jewish despite not being Romani, but at least he doesn't call Pietro a racial slur (from my knowledge) like how Elizabeth Olsen does with Wanda and keeps doing it after being told that the g slur is a racial slur.
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I do, nonnie! I'll give you a quick list on the order I'd recommend you read in, and then go from there:
Avengers Origins: Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver (2011)
X-Men #4 (1964)
Avengers (1963)
The Vision and the Scarlet Witch vol. 1 (1982) / The Vision and the Scarlet Witch vol. 2 (1985)
Scarlet Witch vol. 1 (1994)
Avengers Disassembled (2004)
House of M (2005)
You can buy these comics online from Marvel themselves or pirate them on a website that lets you read comics for free. I do that one because it's cheaper.
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v-thinks-on · 1 year
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Saga of M
The X-Men #1 (1963)
The X-Men #4 (1964) 1, 2
The X-Men #5 (1964)
The X-Men #104 (1977)
The Champions #16 (1977) 1, 2
The X-Men #112 (1978)
The Uncanny X-Men #125 (1979)
The Uncanny X-Men #150 (1981)
The Uncanny X-Men #161 (1982) 1, 2
Marvel Graphic Novel #5 (1982): God Loves, Man Kills
The Vision and the Scarlet Witch #4 (1983)
Secret Wars (1984): #1, #3, #4 (1, 2), #5 (1, 2), #10
The New Mutants #24 (1985)
The New Mutants #29 (1985)
The Uncanny X-Men #196 (1985) 1, 2
The Uncanny X-Men #200 (1985)
The Vision and the Scarlet Witch (1985) #6
Marvel Age Annual #1 (1985)
Alpha Flight #33 (1986)
The New Mutants #38 (1986) 1, 2
The New Mutants #39 (1986)
The New Mutants #40 (1986)
The New Mutants #45 (1986)
The New Mutants #48 (1987)
The New Mutants #61 (1988)
The New Mutants #75 (1989)
Marvel Year in Review 1989
The Avengers #313/Avengers West Coast #55 (1990)
X-Men Unlimited #1 (1993)
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thespectralvision · 4 months
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Happy Thanksgiving to all who celebrate, I hope everyone has a nice time with friends and family. As rough as the past year has been, I’m quite thankful for the experiences I’ve had and the people in my life who shared them with me.
Panel from The Vision and the Scarlet Witch (1985) #6
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ourqueenwanda · 2 years
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Vision and the Scarlet Witch, 1985
YESSS ENERGY SPHERES
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luxshine · 2 years
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Moon Knight Primer, Part 4
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Moon Knight: Fist of Khonshu (1985), Marvel Fanfare #38, West Coast Avengers (1986) #21-41
Prologue
Part I
Part II
Part III
Small annoying biographical sidebar.  West Coast Avengers was the first time I encountered Moon Knight and the guys. And while you will see how that was not the best time to meet the System? I still have some warmth feelings about that run despite it being a very, very bad time for everyone involved.
(And for everyone involved, I mean it. West Coast Avengers single handedly destroyed not just Moon Knight’s relationship with Khonshu, but also Hawkeye and Mockingbird’s marriage AND Wanda and Vision’s marriage! In fact, West Coast Avengers is directly tied to the current status quo of Scarlet Witch as an unstable “crazy” woman and her children being not quite real. So basically, if you liked Wandavision and Multiverse of Madness? This is the comic run you want to read)
And when I say “Destroy”? I am not kidding. In a very funny turn of events, the Fist of Khonshu sets up a new status quo for Moon Knight and the guys that lasts exactly until the end of Moon Knight’s time with the Avengers. Which is a real pity as the mini introduced a lot of very interesting ideas, and the WCA run just… didn’t seem what to do with them. And then, the WCA run ALSO introduced interesting ideas that never went anywhere because they were in the middle of a very complex storyline and by the time that was over? Marc and co. were long gone and thus, it was not even worth it to bring them up again and, as far as I’ve read? No one brought them up ever again.  Well, until the TV series resurrected Harrow, so now I have hope.
Oh? Did I forget to mention? Four parts deep into this we FINALLY get to Harrow’s introduction in the comics! And he has absolutely nothing to do with the TV series Harrow, but this one? This one REALLY has a doctorate!
But I am getting ahead of myself again, so let’s start with what Fist of Khonshu changed from what we know of Moon Knight and the system, the new enemies the guys would fight, and why it is not very remembered as a mini.
Because it’s a new series, we of course have to go back to the origin of how Marc was revived by Khonshu to be his fist. Only that this time, we see that someone else was there besides Marlene and the diggers: Araamses, immortal priest of Anubis, and mayor pain in the ass for a whole issue.
The status quo as the series begins is that, after Rabbi Spector’s second death? Marlene finally got her wish, sort of, and Marc put down the mantle of Moon Knight… and also stopped letting Steven and Jake front. This is pretty much the lowest point for this mini, that we never hear from any of the Alters except for Marc, who is now enjoying Steven’s fortune and making a name for himself as Marc Spector, millionaire art gallery owner.  I have NO idea if this is because Alan Zelenetz, the main writer, really thought that integration therapy was good and worked and thus Marc didn’t need the others anymore, or because he didn’t want to bother with the Moon System at all.
Unfortunately for Marlene, but thankfully for us? This doesn’t last long. Among the things she convinced Marc to do was to sell Khonshu’s statue, and the second the thing is out of Grant… sorry, Spector’s mansion? Marc starts having visions of Khonshu calling him to Egypt, telling him that Moon Knight has to rise again against evil. Obviously, Marc wants to investigate, but Marlene, supportive as always, puts down an ultimatum: either he stays with her and forgets all that nonsense, or she won’t be there when he comes back.
And boy, they didn’t see it this way in the 80’s? But that was a huge red flag of a toxic, abusive relationship.
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Thankfully, Marc doesn’t fall for that trick (Ok, the fact that a guy tries to kill him and upon failing, kills himself yelling “Death to Khonshu” helps a LOT to make him decide that yep, that is worth investigating), and even calls it her “spoiled kid act”. And yes, he will regret leaving, and spend pretty much the rest of the mini and part of WCA moping that he lost the love of his life? But Marlene is gone as the Girlfriend for now, and good riddance to her. She will appear again in the mini, breaking Marc’s heart over and over, but at the very least, she is no longer telling him he’s crazy every time he steps in his own home.
In Egypt he finds another secret tomb filled with Khonshu statues, and meets three blind priests who declare themselves to be the immortal servants of Khonshu and that they have contacted him because he choose to be Khonshu’s fist (as opposed as being chosen, they say that Marc putting on Khonshu’s robe on his shoulders upon revival is what made him accept become Khonshu’s fist) and he let the statue, his original compass to know when to act, fall into the hands of evil. So now THEY will tell him where to go and fight. Like a very annoying Bat signal because it comes with visions AND sound!
Fortunately, it also comes with its advantages: this time, the guys have proof that there is divine intervention in their lives, as not only he gets a pouch full of mystical weapons (An Ankh that glows when there’s mortal danger near, a boomerang covered with protective charms, wristbands with scarab darts, and so on) but also, the body strength will now increase proportionally to the phase and brilliance of the moon. So, new moon or cloudy day? The guys have normal strength. Full Moon? He can give Captain America a run for his money. This was probably one of the most popular additions of the era, and while it is no longer true for the comics (Long story that, we will go through it in time), it’s one many people still think about when thinking of Moon Knight’s abilities.
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Marc starts thinking he must be insane by accepting, but he accepts anyway even if later decides that just because he took the weapons and the new costume doesn’t mean he is going to be Moon Knight again (Ah, the poor innocent guy). He fights Aaramses, is saved by a deus ex machina sandstorm that kills the other man, and gets the Khonshu statue back.
Back in New York we find that THIS time Marlene made good on her promise and left, but Marc can’t really spend much time looking for her because when she does? The Priests alert him to danger in Yucatan, and that’s where we meet Dr. Arthur Harrow.
Yes, you guys know that name. Unfortunately, THIS Dr. Arthur Harrow is not nearly as fun as Ethan Hawke’s Harrow, as he is a novel prize candidate who is following on the steps of Awschwitz’s scientists to create soldiers that can’t feel pain (Of course, the Nobel committee doesn’t know that part, they just know he’s doing advances in pain medicine). So yeah, run of the mill nazi villain for Moon Knight, who appears in this issue and we never, EVER see again.
Only really interesting thing is that, while the narration only refers to the guys as “Marc Spector”, whenever he is in the Moon Knight’s armor he thinks of Marc in the third person so… Who fronts? Who knows?
On the Marlene front? The writers FINALLY remembered that in her early appearances Marlene was called Fontaine and not Alarune, so they work to fix that particular plot hole by letting us now that Eric Fontaine? Is her ex-husband! And she’s going back to him because she has no money left and man, the writers REALLY wanted to make her look as if she only cared about money in her significant others! She still has to call Marc because Morpheus is back again, and this time with mind control powers so she really has no choice, as Morpheus is attacking her patients because she’s studying social work which is honestly the worst possible major for her.  (Also, as much as Marc hates Fontaine, he can’t really hate him when he finds out he’s on a wheelchair and that’s once again the last we hear from Fontaine in the mini)
Interestingly enough? While the Priests also send Marc (Who now thinks of himself as “Marc Spector, REFORMED mercenary and multi-millionaire”) visions about Morpheus, they scold him for thinking more about saving Marlene from the monster than about saving the innocent. While I think the Priests are a bit heavy handed? On this part, I am totally with them. But that is a thing that continues during the mini: Marc wants to quit being Moon Knight and only puts on the suit when the Priests insist… and then his own friends get affected by the case that he just rejected from the police (He has his own commissioner Gordon in the form of NY Detective Flint) so he realizes that he should’ve been more empathic and not just wait for the Priests to call him. Even if he really, really wants to quit (I have to check other comics, but I think this was also the time when Spiderman was quitting, and Captain America was quitting and Iron Man was close to quit and what was with the eighties and all superheroes wanting to hung the cape?)
Issues 5 and 6 have him fighting first two immortal priests that are sacrificing children to remain immortal and then a voodoo priestess who deals with heroine. Both issues end in a very low note and then the mini ends without a peep from Steven or Jake. As I said? Not a very good mini except for the “Moon Knight’s strength increases with the moon bit”.
And then… then we have the West Coast Avengers. (There’s Marvel Fanfare #38, but that one is even MORE run of the mill than Fist of Khonshu’s issues #5 and 6 with a “Boyband is actually made of old men who stole their fans’ youth with an incan idol” plot). And boy, West Coast Avengers makes a MESS out of things, as I said in the introduction because the very first thing it does? Is completely destroy the possibility that Khonshu is just in Marc’s mind by letting us hear the God’s voice as he talks not to any of the System… but to Clint Barton, aka. Hawkeye.
See, at the time the West Coast Avengers were divided in different time eras, and Clint, Wonderman and Tygra were stuck in ancient Egypt. There, Clint half-dies, and Khonshu, true to form, appears in his mind and offers him the same deal he offered Marc. Only Clint is not as easy to manipulate. He accepts helping Khonshu against Rama-tut, the enemy to fight, BUT only if Khonshu agrees to send his team back to their right time. Since Khonshu doesn’t have that power, the god instead sends a message  to Marc to go to California and help the Avengers in the present to figure out that the others are stuck in the past and get a time machine to get them out. After this, Khonshu returns Clint to life (Or to full strength, it’s not clear) and Clint gets to meet the priests of the cult of Khonshu who refer to him as “Beloved of Khonshu”, a term that has NEVER been used to refer to the Moon System.
And then Clint goes and creates the weapons that Marc is using in the future. Yeah, that’s right. Hawkeye made Moon Knight’s mystical arsenal because Khonshu asked him to, and Clint thought “Well, I can’t ask everyone to become a master archer so let’s diversify!”.
We get the Origin re-told, by the way, only that this time Marlene is nowhere to be seen, it’s the Priests themselves who bring Marc to the feet of the Statue, no one knows if he was dead or alive at the time, and we’re specifically told that the Alters came to be AFTER his resurrection, so that he had to quit being Moon Knight for his mental health to find himself again until the Priests called him back into service. This will be the first time the Origin is changed from its original form, but not the last.
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Also, for all the “Everyone in the Marvel Universe thinks/knows Moon Knight is insane” meme? Here we have Marc being very careful not to let the Avengers know about his “schizophrenia” -his words, not mine- , even if really, Marc is sort of fronting all the time -sort of. This will get ugly soon- and Reed Richards, of all people, theorizing that Moon Knight’s powers come from an Egypcian god. So… no one thinks Khonshu is a figment of the System’s imagination! Yet.
And here comes the ugly part: Unlike in Fist of Khonshu, we do get to hear the other Alters, as they appear around Moon Knight from time to time. Except… at first we’re told that Marc IS fronting while being Moon Knight, and he only has three personalities (This comes handy when fighting a mind control ray… apparently, the ray can only control ONE person per zap, so since Moon Knight is only zapped twice, Steven and Jake get controlled, but Marc can still fight). Marc also seems convinced that Khonshu wants him to join the Avengers, so he has to say goodbye to Frenchie who is 100% supportive both of Moon Knight’s plurality and his career as an avenger. Frenchie is ten thousand times better than Marlene and that will again come up later as to why.
Oh, yes. The Ugly. See, from that point on, Moon Knight’s personality starts to change and be weird. On one hand, he speaks to Khonshu in his head a LOT. On the other, he suddenly has knowledge that none of the Alters had, such as a deep, deep understanding of Astrology when in his own book we know that none of the Alters had time or belief in the supernatural, even doubting Khonshu’s existence from time to time.  He also begins a relationship with Tygra, despite having earlier in his comic thought about how being Moon Knight was not conductive to romance.
When this happens, Steven and Jake start arguing with Marc about Marc wanting to be the only one in the body AGAIN. And they start wondering if the fact that Khonshu is now speaking to them is only a sign of madness… despite their powers being quite obviously real and moon-based. He is also in probation as an Avenger because Clint really doesn’t like it when people die and Marc… doesn’t have that particular hang-up. YET.
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And then Khonshu comes up to speak up to Marc and tells him he WANTS Moon Knight to be an Avenger because the god is VERY interested in Clint Barton and the Avenger experience.  Which is problem #1 of Moon Knight’s time in the Avengers. They broke the cardinal rule of “We don’t show if Khonshu is real or not” in order to make the god obsess… over a completely different character.  Oh, and then we get told that nope, Khonshu doesn’t approve of Marc being with Tygra because she is “sun-oriented” despite claiming to love the moon and this is the first time Khonshu openly talks about his preferences about Moon Knight’s romantic life. While still insisting that he totally wants to understand Hawkeye and I do wonder about the West Coast Avenger’s writers obsession with Hawkeye back then.
Still, after Moon Knight saves Mockingbird from Phantom Rider -although they both lie to Hawkeye regarding exactly from whom he saved her- he officially becomes the #24 Avenger (Which, given that now the rooster of Avengers and ex-Avengers is about 150? Kinda impressive) but then, during a fight where Marc is left unconscious… Khonshu leaves the body. It is revealed then that he has been possessing the system, making them join the Avengers and then slowly taking over because since he was SO impressed by Hawkeye’s spirit, he wanted to be in the Avengers “personally”. And none of the Alters know about this. And he is more active than ever, as every time the team faces someone who can mind control them? Khonshu takes over to remain immune.
And yet, with Khonshu apparently over the moon for Hawkeye (yes, sorry, I just had to say that), when Hawkeye and Mockingbird divorce and separate? Moon Knight takes Mockingbird side and stays with her rather than remain with the Avengers.  And yet, Khonsu is STILL fronting as we get thoughts like “Assuming the form of Marc Spector is becoming a hindrance” -as he can’t use his full godly powers like that-  “My human Host, Marc Spector”, and stuff like that.
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Finally, as the whole drama with Phantom Rider ends, Damion Hellstorm, Spawn of Satan, exorcises Khonshu from Moon Knight’s body and, after a very, very long fight with Seth’s armies (Because of a different crossover that was going on at the time), Khonshu declares that his little experiment with experiencing the human life was over, he had to go and fight Seth since they’re from the same pantheon, and thus, Marc will be left alone in his body (With the Alters, which Khonshu at some point calls “their madness” because Khonshu is an ass) but will still be the fist of Khonshu on earth and as such Marc is still under his service even if “their time of oneness is over”. Marc is not impressed. During the fight with the Seth armies, every bit of Moon Knight’s mystic arsenal is destroyed, so he is left only with his augmented strength during the moon cycle. 
Once Khonshu leaves and the fight is over, Marc -who is probably fronting- breaks things up with Tygra and leaves the avengers, stating that “I have met my maker, and I’m not sure I like what I saw” which marks the FIRST time Moon Knight and Khonshu are in real conflict, but not the last.
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He also participated in the West Coast Avengers 2 and 3, but really, he was only there as a warm body to fight villains.
So there you have it, the series that brought the biggest change to Moon Knight status quo in the eighties, and yet… didn’t do anything interesting with the Alters. Seriously, I’d have KILLED to see Jake interacting with Clint, Steven with Tony Stark -as Iron Man was on the team for a bit at the same time as Moon Knight, and Marc with Mockingbird. To see the team confused as to who was fronting when with the guys desperately trying to keep their plurality a secret.  To NOT have Khonshu just become a Hawkeye fangirl and take over the guys’s autonomy just because he wanted to play Avenger near his new shiny non plural friend (That really left a bad taste in my mouth), but in the end, it was just a means to undo what they had done in the mini and get back to the original status quo, with just the new change of us knowing that Khonshu IS real, even if he is no longer around.
What did they do with that? Well, tune in for Part 5 when we get to see what happened in Marc Spector: Moon Knight (Oh, and The Punisher Annual 2), And that one is going to be short, and it’s going to be PAINFUL, so I am warning you right now.
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sorceryofjam · 1 year
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wanda maximoff comic recs
if you're a fan of the movies who likes wanda and wants to know more about her or even comic fans that want to refresh on the character here is my must reads for your maximoff basics!
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west coast avengers 1985
this run incudes wanda first meeting agatha and learning more about her witchy powers! its a fun campy read that's easy to understand once you grasp the quirky speech patters.
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the vision and scarlet witch vol 1 and 2
this comic explores wanda and visions relationship in a sweet and cute run! vol 2 introduces billy and tommy!
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avengers 1998
this run is in my humble opinion is the best avengers run! Wandas powers really grow and it leds up to avengers disassembled so you can read house of M after and understand that nice context
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avengers children crusade
this mini series takes place right after house of m and you get to know more of billy and tommy as they find their mother
if you want a part two with more modern ones lmk!
live laugh scarlet witch ;)
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yelenasdiary · 1 year
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I would love to see more Wanda comics
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Here’s some Scarlet Witch from the comic I sat down and read today ☺️
Vision and The Scarlet Witch Vol 2 #1, (1985)
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scarlet--wiccan · 1 year
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I've recently read Vision and the Scarlet Witch (the second one, where Billy and Tommy are given birth to) and, er, why is Quicksilver randomly spouting hilariously over-the-top racist remarks to Luke Cage. I thought it was going to be set-up for a brainwashing arc so was that a thing in another series going on at the same time or is this just... something Englehart decided to throw in as an attempt at black comedy?
I will preface this by saying that Vision and the Scarlet Witch, like most comics written in 1980s, is not without racism-- just look at the stuff with Nekra and Black Talon. This book was not written to be hateful, but it was written with ignorance and oversight, as many things were and still are. I'm not trying to exempt Englehart on that front.
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Vision and the Scarlet Witch (1985) takes place in real time-- each issue is set one month apart over the course of one year, including Wanda's full pregnancy. To mark the passage of time, a lot of these issues are set during a holiday or seasonal event.
Luke Cage appears in issue #8, which is set on Martin Luther King Jr. Day in January. Remember, MLK Day was signed into law in 1983, so at the time this was a brand new holiday. Now, I'm not Black and I wasn't alive in the 80s, so I can't really attest to how people were observing or speaking about this at the time, but, to me, this issue reads as a well-intentioned but deeply cringe-worthy attempt at a Very Special Episode commemorating the MLK Day's inception. Our heroes team up with their-- admittedly tokenized-- Black friend, Luke, who deposits some heartfelt expressions of hope and sentiment about racial progress. This is, of course, written by a white writer, and you can really tell.
Now, Englehart writes Pietro pretty consistently as an unlikeable character in V&SW, so his role in this issue to to make insensitive remarks that push the conversation forward. Luke mentions that MLK Day was supposed to be his day off, and Pietro scoffs at this because he's an asshole and he thinks Luke is being negligent. It comes across really poorly because of this line--
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Well, I have nothing against Martin Luther King-- some of the best Inhumans have dusky skin, after all-- but taking new "days off" when crime never sleeps leads to a weakening of moral fiber, in my opinion!
This coming from someone who is himself a racialized minority.
As you can see, Englehart made some really gross decisions here! Pietro and Luke continue to butt heads, but none of their other dialogues are loaded like this one. This is the only issue of V&SW that Luke is actually in, so unless I'm missing something, I'm pretty is the worst of Pietro's weird anti-Black characterization. It's out of character, especially by today's standards, and it's uncomfortable to read, but I don't think it warrants a brain-washing theory. You might be confusing this with a storyline from a few years later, when Pietro becomes temporarily ~evil~ and ~crazy~ under Maximus Boltagon's psychic influence. That one mostly plays out in Avengers West Coast.
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The Vision and the Scarlet Witch (1985) #9
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astromechs · 2 years
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tag 9 people to get to know better!
tagged by @spector27 💙
last song: here i go again — whitesnake (dramatic 80s power ballad has been the writing playlist tonight folks, lmao)
last show: first kill
currently watching: as in... right now? last week tonight with john oliver
currently reading: a slew of comics, mostly — vigilante (1983), vision and the scarlet witch (1985), jms spider-man (2001)
tagging (no obligation, of course!): @paperprinc3 , @maddiepryorlovebot , @glampirecrybaby , @masque-er-aide , @literatigeek , @i-believe-in-unicorns-and-you , @curriedprince , @katekanemybeloved , @the-cones-of-dunshire
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tvsotherworlds · 1 year
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