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"Time & the Trickster"
A Loki/Doctor Who crossover
Chapter 2: Window to the World
Having Loki in your apartment leaves you both confused and star-struck. But fangirl crushes will have to wait as you take it upon yourself to give Loki a history lesson about your reality and his role in it.
CHAPTER WARNING: none
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You were an early riser, and always had been. Even on mornings after you’d not slept well, you were usually able to greet the day with at least some energy. It was your superpower: you were the only morning person you knew. It was usually good for adding an extra hour or so of recreation to your day.
You needed that superpower more so today than ever. For once, when you woke up and remembered why you were splayed out like a deflating sex doll on the sofa, not a shred of dignity to be found in your position, you felt your head begin to pound.
Coffee…bring me to life…
You glimpsed at the Loki figurine on the kitchen island where you’d stashed it without thinking. Scrunching your nose, you went to the cupboard to start brewing a strong pot of Elixir of Life (French Vanilla light roast).
You weren’t sure what to think. If your new houseguest was truthful, that meant you presently had the God of Mischief in your bed. Hell, it meant that the God of Mischief, as well as Thor, Odin, and Asgard, existed. And what did that mean for everyone else in those movies? How did he even find himself here, and where was his intended path?
And, perhaps the biggest question of all: how was he supposed to get back to where he came from? Should he even be allowed to go? After all, it wasn’t like Loki from The Avengers was a good person. What if you had an intergalactic criminal in there? Lying not about his identity but about his benign existence?
Heh, I guess I had stranger days in college.
You heard shuffling at the front door. After a few moments of keys jangling, Joey came in, looking worse than when he’d left you hours ago.
“More fun at work, asshole?” you said with a sneer.
“Always,” he said, taking a seat on the other side of the island on a barstool. “Actually, I did a lot of cleaning shit out tonight.”
“Good. Serves you right for making me spend my last hundred bucks on Prince Loki in there,” you replied. “That was our grocery money, by the way. Hope you like the Crackers and Oxygen Diet.”
Joey laughed. “I was thinking about it…about him,” he said after a brief pause. “And I was wondering if you thought the same thing I did.”
“What about?”
“About The Doctor.”
The timer on the coffee pot beeped. You swiped two cheap mugs stolen from a hotel room and placed them in front of your brother.
You nodded. “I definitely thought about him.”
“Maybe it’s not such a weird coincidence that he looks like him, Sis,” Joey reasoned as you poured. “I mean, that kook in London sure looks like David Tennant.”
“It’s a publicity stunt, genius,” you said, bringing one of the full mugs to your nose so that you could inhale the gentle, earthy aroma. You were already beginning to feel more awake.
“Disney owns the Loki side of things, but not the Who side,” said Joey. “I doubt the BBC and MCU would do something like this at the same time.”
You smiled and took a slightly longer look at him. Despite his disheveled appearance, Joey really did look like your father to a T. “You and Dad watched all the old Doctor Who stuff. I just watched the Thor movies for the…”
You looked briefly at the toy on the counter.
“...plot.”
Joey took a long sip of coffee, rolling his eyes before setting the cup down to express his thoughts. “Sure you did, Sis. Hey…uh…didn’t you lose your virginity to the audiobook for High Rise?”
“SHUT UP!” you barked defensively, absentmindedly taking a sugar cube from a glass nearby and chucking it at his face. Your aim was wide (and half-assed), and instead of hitting your target, the cube flew across the room and landed at Loki’s bare foot.
You hadn’t noticed him open the door or leave the bedroom. “Oh,” you gasped.
“Hey, Loki! Good morning, soldier!” Joey raised his mug in toast.
Loki looked a little bewildered, but otherwise mentally intact. “Did I miss something?” He bent over and scooped the sugar cube, holding it between two of his fingers, observing it.
You shook your head. “No. Uh, coffee?”
“Um,” was all Loki said before Joey gestured to his own seat, getting up and offering it. Loki felt compelled to take it.
“Hey,” Joey said in an aside to you as Loki helped himself to a coffee mug, “We should tell him.”
“About how he’s a fictional character? I was going to.”
“About The Doctor,” Joey repeated. “I’m just saying, maybe it’s NOT so weird that two time-jumpers landed here after all.”
Shaking your head, you disagreed. “I want to show him the movies first,” you said, looking briefly over your shoulder. “If he is who he says he is, then he doesn’t know the truth. We can’t send him out into the world as a helpless little dingus. Someone could take advantage of him.”
Your brother sighed. “I guess. I’m gonna shower and get some sleep. Maybe when I wake up we can talk about what to do.”
You gritted your teeth and groaned. “He sounds like he wants to get back to where he came from as soon as possible.”
Laughing, Joey headed for the bathroom, barely large enough for him to turn around in. “I don’t think he has much choice.”
“No, that’s not what I’m worried about,” you added. “What if he gets desperate and, like, hurts one of us?”
He shrugged and said quickly as he closed the door, “Well, try not to bleed onto the rug. The landlord’ll add that to our rent.”
You rolled your eyes. Thanks, Joey.
You turned to go back to the kitchen island to help Loki with something to eat, but stopped in your tracks when you saw that he had found the figurine, and was holding it up in front of him as if it were covered in syrup.
“Y/N, what is this?”
Your jaw fell open as your heart began to race. You couldn’t explain the look on Loki’s face; it was as if he was wrestling in his mind between confusion and amusement.
“I…”
Loki was smiling as he held the trinket closer to his eyes, observing the details. “My my…” he mumbled. “Why does Midgard have toys of my likeness in this timeline? Am I a hero?”
His smile peeled further back on his cheeks as he had a realization.
“Do…do you admire me, Miss Y/N?”
Your skin went ice cold when he winked with a chuckle. Your mind was short-circuiting. This was a super fan’s anxiety nightmare come to life, and it was your show. You did the one thing you knew would work to get you out of it: change the subject.
“Loki,” you said solemnly, “There’s something I need to show you.”
You called in to work (the shop owner was a retired teacher with a sweet disposition, so she understood that you “had family in town”) and brought out Joey’s DVD cases. Between the two of you, you owned the DVDs of the entire Infinity Saga. Joey even burned a few bootleg copies of one of the streaming shows, but alas, it was Wandavision, not Loki’s show. You couldn’t afford any streaming services, and since password sharing/stealing was no longer possible, you only had these discs and basic cable as your entertainment in the evenings.
I wonder what’s in his serial, you thought. Has he lived it yet? Should I warn him about spoilers?
You laid out a spread of snacks, in case Loki got lightheaded or distressed over what he saw. Luckily, sleep had remedied some of his anxiety, at least to your eye. He appeared fine with the idea of sitting back for most of the day with movies.
“So, what do you know about this place? This world?” you asked as you hit the pause button as the opening logos of Thor began to appear.
Loki was sitting formally, with immaculate posture. “My seidr doesn’t work here. And your version of a Loki variant is possibly fictional and enshrined within these documentaries you are about to show me.”
“What’s a variant?” you asked.
“It doesn’t matter,” Loki said after a moment’s pause. “Show me the films,” he added with a hint of sadness.
Thus began your day watching Loki watch himself in movies. It wasn’t exactly what you’d pictured you would be doing with him if he ever became real, but at least you weren’t bickering or fighting Christopher Eccleston. He seemed entranced, a little disturbed, but also fascinated in earnest. Once in a while, he even made a critic’s comment on the filmmakers’ and actors’ choices. It made you smile when he did, because his shoulders relaxed, he sat back against the sofa cushion. He was becoming comfortable with you.
He remarked that Thor’s film counterpart was a bit off in particular: the real God of Thunder was apparently a bit less bumbling. He was as much a hunter as he was a soldier, which gave him sharper instincts than what was portrayed on screen. Still, the physical resemblance was outright uncanny.
“So, to be clear: in your world, Loki is ONLY a character?” he asked.
Nodding, you hoped he wouldn’t have some kind of existential crisis triggered by your honesty. “Yes. All of these people are the result of actors acting and writers writing.”
“And Midgard is the only Realm that exists?”
“As far as we know, and we’ve mapped the stars pretty well.”
“...and there’s no magic? Or Avengers?”
“Not outside of Comic Con.”
“This fellow playing my role is a bit theatrical.”
You nearly snorted your water. Loki even made you laugh once in a while. “You really think so? Isn’t that the point, though?” you giggled. Loki looked at you warmly.
“Your laugh is nice,” he said. “I am fond of the sound of laughter. You know, I notice these stories neglect my more playful side. I wasn’t always a parasuicidal, power-maddened Prince.”
You raised a teasing eyebrow, and he shrugged. “To be fair, I did say not always.”
He knew more about the plot than you expected. You noticed in some scenes he mouthed the dialogue verbatim, which sent shivers down your back to see. Other times, he seemed as clueless as a first-time viewer as to what was happening, especially when you popped in Ragnarok after a brief lunch break.
“That wasn’t at all how Sakaar happened,” he hissed bitterly. “I never attempted to betray Thor, and would’ve never allowed him to electrocute me without my permission!”
You chose to skip over the next film (ignoring Loki’s odd addendum about ‘permission’) and you got the feeling Loki knew why. “Thank you,” he said, “yes, I know what happens to me on the ship after Ragnarok.”
“How?” you asked. “You’re not as surprised by some of this as I thought.”
“I’m surprised by some of the accuracy, yes,” he admitted, looking at you with a twinge of sorrow in his eyes. “But you aren’t the first one to bring my life’s review before my eyes like this.”
“Who was the first? And how?” you wondered.
“Are there other films of this Loki?” Loki asked. “I can show you what happens next. Surely you know my life didn’t exactly end there.”
“Sort of.”
You got up from the sofa to clear the boxes of old Chinese leftovers as you explained. “You do get away in the next one, the last one. They figure out time travel. Thor finds a universe where you escape from arrest after taking over New York.”
“Yes,” recalled Loki, “but did they show you what happened after that? Where I fell?”
You bit your lip as you crammed everything into the overflowing garbage can as far down as possible. “Not unless you can afford fifteen extra bucks a month,” you admitted. “There is more, but I don’t have access to it.”
“We need to find it,” Loki decided. You were about to agree when he changed his tone: “Oh…perhaps I can regale you with the antics of the TVA myself?”
The way he looked at you, hopeful that you’d agree to hear his version of the next chapter of his life instead of the MCU’s, warmed your heart. You had to fight back your urge to leap across the room and embrace him. Scaring him was the absolute last thing you wanted to do. What you did do was sit next to him again and fold your legs underneath you.
You said simply, “Please.”
And he did. For hours after.
There was something in the way he wove a tale that felt not quite of this planet. His delivery was almost exaggerated as he told you about the TVA, Mobius, Sylvie, and OB, as well as Kang and Ravonna, and how he ended up unconscious and naked in an alley on South Salina street.
His voice was hot and soothing, like a drink of tomato soup against a dry, raw throat. You could have melted into his lap as he described everyone and everything, all of the marvelous lands that didn’t exist for you, the magnificent species and cultures, and the horrendous monsters he’d beaten.
You didn’t particularly care for Sylvie, who sounded like she thrived off of Persecution Complex and attention like a lamprey fed off of a shark’s hind. The way he described both her and Mobius, with equal fondness and perhaps even love, made you sink back in your seat. You were suddenly not as giddy inside.
“You love her,” you said softly and suggestively.
Loki shook his head in denial. “I thought I did until I repeatedly attempted to pull her away from the Citadel.”
“What happened there?”
He explained that he’d realized there, after repeatedly trying to pull her away from her desire to murder Kang and set the timelines into brutal chaos on a scale not even Loki could contain, that sometimes people don't change. It was all Loki could do to accept that perhaps the trite little world in Oklahoma that Sylvie longed for was, perhaps, the one she belonged in after all.
“I don't agree,” you said stubbornly, sticking out your chest in a bit of cartoonish defiance. “She needs to be held accountable for nearly taking down all of reality.”
He sighed. “No, I don’t see how. Her fate is not mine, nor is mine hers. She couldn’t take my place.”
“Your place?” you asked inquisitively. “You mention so many weird things, Loki, and expect me to know them.”
He didn’t answer you. Instead, the wheels in his head were sparked into action, and he looked for a moment as if he were reading something in the air in front of him as his idea materialized.
“Maybe…” he suddenly said. “...the stone!”
“What?” you asked, snapping out of your dreamy trance.
“We have to go back for the stone!” Loki snapped up off of the sofa as if his ass were on springs. It startled you. “Where I landed!”
“Loki! You don’t know your way around here at all! It was dark and rainy last night, so how do you expect to find it?” you slowly got to your feet and put your hands on your hips.
“There was a street sign nearby. S. Salina street! I’ll know what it looks like,” Loki promised, grabbing your hand and dragging you toward the door. “Quickly!”
“Oh my god,” you said, your breath quickening, your anxiety beginning to rush upon you. “Please slow down before I pass out. This is all so much!”
You sat back down again, this time on the barstool closest to you. Laying your head on the island, you let out the smallest, lowest moan of frustration. “This couldn’t have been a normal day…”
You didn’t expect to feel Loki’s large, cool hand on your shoulder. You could feel his skin through your flimsy cami top, and it only took a moment before you began to calm. “I’m sorry,” he said. “I shouldn’t have assumed that people here move with the frequent urgency they do where I come from.”
The tempest waters slowly receded. You turned around, craning your neck to look up at him. You were suddenly conscious of how much of a train wreck you must’ve appeared. You’d never gotten out of the leggings you wore to bed…the leggings with the two gaping holes in the inner thigh seams.
You quickly slammed your thighs together, but if Loki noticed, he was a true Prince about it and didn’t say a word. Instead, he wiped a small piece of hair from your eye. “Have I made you ill?”
“No! Err…”
A moment of frightening silence passed as the pair of you stood and sat where you were, simply observing one another as two creatures from different planes learning all they could about each other.
Meanwhile it wasn’t helping your blood pressure as you were still having difficulty absorbing the fact that you were staring into the literal face of your teenage sexual awakening. Surely he wasn’t looking at you the same way, but his studious eyes with pounding urgency behind them were taking you in regardless. You felt vulnerable…vulnerable and turned on like a seat warmer in January.
Finally, you couldn’t stand it anymore, and you broke the silence. “If you really think you know where on that street it is, I’m calling a cab.”
On your way out the door, you dug into Joey’s jean jacket pocket, just knowing you’d find treasure. Indeed, it only took a moment before you found his tip wallet, and pulled out several tens and twenties before replacing it. Thank god you finished your shift last night, jerk.
You didn’t bother waiting for Loki to ask before saying, “Don’t worry, he owes me way more than that.”
The rainstorm had receded, but the after effects were worse.
The heat of the waning spring was thick in the air this afternoon, the sun hanging high and dry over the city with not even a wisp of cirrus obscuring it. Humidity radiated off the concrete streets and sidewalks, turning the pavement into a massive stovetop. Luckily, Joey and Loki shared a shoe size (in spite of his diminutive height, he had a larger bone structure that led to large hands and feet). A few buildings over, near one of the corners, a small group of kids had managed to crack open an old fire hydrant and were running under the makeshift water fountain, ignoring the hollers of the angry adults scolding them. It had to be ninety degrees with the heat index, which was hot for this time of year, with summer inbound but still another ten days away.
Sadly, shoe size was the ONLY size Loki and Joey had in common, and the God was forced to wear the smelly castoffs from the police station the night before. You counted the bounty you’d stolen from your brother as you waited for the cab. “I think we have enough to get you something from the Salvation Army while we’re out. It won’t be pretty, but at least it’ll be clean…and not so full of holes and stains!”
“The Army! That’s what I need!” Loki shot back, causing you to roll your eyes.
“Sweet Jesus, Loki, I still have so much to teach you.”
You asked the cabbie to drive low and slow as you drove about the city, down to the south end on the other side of the highway divide. Once there, you were surprised by how quickly it took for Loki to shout “Stop! Stop the car!”
The cabbie did as he was told, and you threw two twenties at him. No need to force him to linger, especially when you had other places to go within walking distance.
Loki pulled you along by the wrist as he maneuvered down the familiar street.
“There! That’s where I awoke!”
He ducked into an alleyway, lined high along each side with filled trash bags, loaded dumpsters, and wet, crumbling cardboard boxes. Immediately, he turned to the west wall and began looking down at the ground, as if he was just going to find this stone lying on the ground.
“Hey, I got bad news for you, Loki,” you whispered, “if this stone was shiny and bright like the one in the movies…it probably wouldn’t last very long just out in the open in a neighborhood like this.”
He didn’t listen, but as the minutes passed, he realized that you were right. The stone was absolutely and undeniably not in the alley. Someone had made off with it.
“The old man with the…territorial streak,” he mumbled to himself, recalling the first face he’d seen when he arrived in Syracuse.
Before you could ask what he meant, you were cut off by the sound of laughter from across the road.
“Oooh look, Naked Loki’s back! In clothes!” shouted Di, whooping gleefully from the same deck as she’d been last night. “Thank the Lord! Hi, Naked Loki!” she cheered as she waved vigorously in your direction.
“I think he was better off when he wasn’t wearing anything!” giggled her roommate.
“Hello, ladies,” Loki said briefly, waving sheepishly and tipping a non-existent hat to them without moving closer. “May I inquire something of you?”
Di and her roommate laughed again, and Di primped her hair. “Well, I’ll see what I can be inquired of.” She laced her reply with a British accent that would’ve made Dick Van Dyke shake his head in shame. The sass more than made up for it. You nearly lost your mind in sudden laughter.
“The crazy man who shouted at me from this alley last night--”
“--Abe?”
“Yes! Abe! Exactly! Abe!” Loki snapped to full attention, a positive bounce in his step as he finally moved in on his new friends. You followed behind him slowly, stepping back to let a car pass first. “Do you know what Abe does with things he finds? Shiny things? Does he stash them somewhere or sell them?”
“Shiny things, like what?” asked Di.
Loki tried to get her to understand. “Like an emerald, perhaps?”
Di shrugged. “I know he’s got some kind of relationship with Kit at the pawn shop near Gannon’s. I guess he’d go there to sell. Dunno if he does, though.”
“Thank you, my Lady,” said Loki graciously, thinking nothing of taking the woman’s hand in his and laying a brief kiss on it.
“Woo! Come on back anytime, Naked Loki!” she squealed.
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I’m so confused about what happened to Sylvie when Loki was left at an empty TVA and the rest of the gang were sent back to the original timelines. Like Casey, B15, Mobius and OB were TVA employees kidnapped from their original timelines so they went back there. Loki and Sylvie were kidnapped from their timelines also, but they are different in that they never had their memories wiped, so maybe that’s why they didn’t go back to their original timelines, idk it doesn’t make much sense, but I can accept because it’s fiction and so like OB said it’s “not how but why” but then WHY wasn’t Sylvie left behind with Loki when everyone disappeared. She had a TemPad so did she just escape with it straight away?? Before or after Loki Time slipped?? Before doesn’t make sense because she would’ve offered him to escape with her before the place spaghettified, after doesn’t make sense either because in that case she would have seen him time slipping and therefore she wouldn’t have been surprised when he did it front of her at maccy ds.
When Loki explained to her that the others went back to their original timelines she was like “I know I was there” like what? How would being at the TVA when it all went to shit mean that she would know what happened to the others, Loki didn’t know until he literally met them all, like what exactly did Sylvie see happen to the others?? I’m so confused, I get that she doesn’t care much about the others, she only just met Casey and OB, she barely knows B15, she had a little bit of a bonding moment with Mobius last season but that was only one time. But Loki she actually cares about at least a bit, and we the audience are supposed to think that, and yes, her life of trauma has made her suppress caring for anyone (don’t get me wrong she openly cares for people on a large scale, she was upset when all those branches were destroyed, but it’s when it’s on a personal level is when she suppresses) and presenting as cold and distant BUT there’s a difference between being cold and distant and literally not seeming to give a fuck about what happed to Loki, she barely seemed relived when seeing him, you can argue she knew he was alive, but how did she know?? Like once Loki got the TemPad from OB he could find Sylvie, like he needed her for the temporal aura thing, but like he would of checked on her anyway even if he didn’t, why didn’t she check on him? But also if Slyvie and Loki are the great romance, why didn’t he try to retrieve Sylvie before Casey and B15, he knew that B15 and Casey were alive, because he saw them while time slipping, when he time slipped to where Sylvie was he was facing away from McDonald’s and probably wouldn’t have been able to process where he was, let alone know if Sylvie was ok. And if he did process where he was and therefore figure out that Sylvie had returned to McDonalds and was therefore ok, wouldn’t it have occurred to him that Sylvie was not like the others, she hadn’t returned to her original timeline (I’ve heard people say Slyvie doesn’t have a original timeline to go to, but she literally does, she was taken from Asgard as a child, if what happened to Mobius and co happened to her she would’ve been on Asgard or new Asgard, maybe broing it out with Thor, as branch timelines exist now, hers could too…) and if he knew she wasn’t on her original timeline and instead on her new timeline she choose for herself, he should’ve been able to work out that unlike the others she would remember him, so you think for that reason he’d want to see her asap but it’s like the two of them barely thought of each other.
Loki was focused on the TVA gang and she was focused on living her new life on the timeline, which is fine, but I just know that they’re gonna be end game which would be totally left field at this point. Even though I don’t ship Slyki their obviously was build up of their relationship in season 1 but then in season 2, Sylvie’s had a complete disregard for Loki and he has had an ever growing indifference to her, which is a complete 180 and a weird writing choice, but it’ll be another weird writing choice to 180 to reverse it all again and have them be end game at this point…
#Loki#loki series#loki spoilers#I’m not anti slyki per say i mean I don’t enjoy them as a ship but there not bad enough for me to be anti#I’m just anti bad writing and nothing about they way the Loki and Sylvie romance is written make sense#like slyki shippers don’t think I’m hating on you cause I get why you ship it cause there was like a reason to ship it in season 1#like i didn’t personally but I get it#If I did ship it I would be even more annoyed with the whole thing#because the way they have been written this season is that they dgaf about each other which is oc for both of them considering season 1#If they are endgame I feel like it’s not satisfactory for slykis because the slyki content has been dire this season#it’s like slyki ans lokius both loose and Marvel failed to write a successful love story for Loki
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Loki x Sylvie hcs <3
So nobody asked for this (and I am this close to just making a side blog for these two silly little Marvel characters) but I wanted to do it, so here are cute headcanon couple q’s and a’s from some prompt on here from forever ago
Who is the little spoon?
Sylvie tries to be all tough and make Loki be the little spoon (which he enjoys for sure), but he wants her to be able to sleep — actually sleep — without one eye open or ready to spring into action at the faintest tap, so he holds her tight and it helps her get real rest. (It also helps with the nightmares she has; they don’t usually discuss that factor.)
Who sings in the shower?
Loki. He’ll sing loudly, and to Sylvie’s dismay she can’t even tease him about being bad at it because he’s good. He’ll sing some Asgardian song, and she’s made him teach her the words — she doesn’t remember the language — so she can sing along softly under her breath during moments like those.
Who plays pranks on the other?
Oh please. Loki always starts shit, but Sylvie will end it. He tries playing pranks on her to playfully prove that he’s the “superior” Loki, but Sylvie is much more mischievous than she appears. When they learn of April Fool’s Day, they go berserk on one another, and each year they try to one-up the other until Valkyrie (if they’re in New Asgard) or Mobius (if they at the reformed TVA) yell at them to cut it out.
Who is the one who listens to pop music?
Sylvie was SO embarrassed when Loki found out that she loves 21st century Midgardian pop music. “It’s catchy,” she snips at him when his grin widens. “Didn’t say it wasn’t,” he replies.
Who brings the other a random cup of joe?
Neither Variant really like coffee that much. Loki says it pales in comparison to the drinks on Asgard, and Sylvie only had it when she had a moment to steal it from convenience stores, and everyone knows coffee from those places are just awful. No, instead they’re tea drinkers.
Who picks the cheesy movies for date night?
Surprisingly, Sylvie. She thinks they’re a good distraction from, well, everything, and Loki finds himself liking them too. The moment he opens his mouth to make some smart quip about what’s on the screen, though, she gives him a look that shuts him up real quick.
(After a while, Sylvie quietly admits that one reason she likes those movies is because when she saw them here and there while on the run, she would foolishly like to think that in another life, something magical like that could happen to her.)
Who is more likely to feed the other in public?
Well, maybe not feed, but Loki surprised even himself by being the affectionate one. He’s never been one for touchy-feely shit…he told himself that Thor was sensitive enough for the both of them…but when it comes to Sylvie? Oh gods he loves her and doesn’t hesitate to give her a quick kiss if the urge comes upon him, anytime anywhere. (She doesn’t complain. Much.)
Who gives the other random little compliments?
They both do equally, and Sylvie’s compliments take Loki by surprise due to their abruptness, and she honestly not that great at it, but he’s touched nonetheless. His compliments make her heart speed up and flustered for words, and that reaction is honestly half the reason he says what he does. He thinks she deserves all the praise and demands to be the first to give it.
Who is always stealing food from the other’s plate?
Sylvie. She had to scavenge for food her whole life, so she’ll steal Loki’s food without even realizing it. Loki knows it’s a hard habit for her to break and just lets her do it without complaints.
Who makes the list before they go grocery shopping?
Sylvie for sure. Loki’s the kind of person who just goes in the store and buys whatever looks good, or whatever he’s hungry for at the moments, but Sylvie is all about plans and planning, so she makes sure there’s a solid list and that they stick to it.
Who makes sure the other takes their meds when sick?
It takes a lot of convincing, some warnings of consequences, and even a little bit of magic, but Loki gets Sylvie to stay in bed and take medicine when she comes down with the flu. She growls an empty threat from underneath the blankets he’s conjured on top of her — “at least you’ve learned to make real blankets” — and he knows she‘s used to not resting for anything, and even less accustomed to being cared for, but he doesn’t back down.
Who watches sports and has to teach the other the rules?
Oh they both hate sports. “Stupid Midgardian entertainment” mutters Sylvie, rolling her eyes. “Agreed,” Loki chimes in. “I don’t see what’s so great about kicking or throwing a ball around.” And then they change the channel to America’s Funniest Videos and laugh at people falling down, because as gods of mischief, of course they do.
Who pulls the other to their feet for a dance in the living room?
Loki, and Sylvie pretends to hate it, but she’s biting back a smile, and then she’s laughing as he swings her ‘round in some dance he swears is part of some Asgardian tradition, and Loki will do anything to hear that sound, so he continues that spontaneous shenanigan.
Who has to keep reminding the other to hurry or they’ll be late?
Sylvie. Oh she has no patience for Loki and his meticulous getting-ready routine. She’s lived her life in the run, putting the minimal effort into anything but staying alive, so when Loki calls from the bathroom that he’ll “be right there” for the third time, two times past her patience’s limit, she storms up there and nearly drags him out the front door.
Who is the one most likely to get a tattoo with the other’s name?
They’re two halves of the same whole. They don’t need or want tattoos reminding them of what they already know: they belong to one another, for all time. Always.
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Our Loki Variants
A/N: This is a summary of a conversation that I had with @five-miles-over. One we thought was a nice concept, thus I thought why not make notes (in case any of us might want to use it). So with that out the way let us get started.
The Playwright (Loki Variant Edition)
In Contributation with Five Miles Over (Tumblr)
Troupe: Anti-hero playwright Loki
Main Points:
25 to 28-year-old TA or PA to Loki
Loki; is 39, almost 40, is a divorced playwright whose life seems to lead him to nothing. The only thing he has is his schemes through his actors, forced to give up his drinks and become a teacher. None of it helped when he must deal with his co-teacher in his class at the college.
He schemes to get what is needed to get done, but he does care for his actors despite his schemes.
His wife divorced him years ago, wanting to get away from Loki’s type of chaos, not out of hate, but want for a more stable life.
His new love interest is a fierce women who won’t take any of his crap and knows what she is getting into. She is ready to deal and if need be tame the mischief that is Loki.
Conversation;
F: You know who'd be a cool variant of Loki? Loki as a 50-year-old, divorced playwright.
Me: Why 50?
F: *shrugs* it'd be fun to have a middle-aged antihero who owns his age.
Me: Yes, but the fandom would question it's sanities, depending on how fine the actor is. I mean if we did 40 or 45, they could have Mr. Hiddleston do it. I mean they can't say no since this Loki is around his age.
F: True, maybe 46 years old. Loki's a Midgardian, divorced playwright who enacts his schemes through his actors.
Me: Loki; is 39, almost 40, is a divorced playwright whose life seems to lead him to nothing. The only thing he has is his schemes through his actors, forced to give up his drinks and become a teacher. None of it helped when he must deal with his co-teacher in his class at the college. A 26 - 29 who seems to hold something he can no longer work for.
The aging may have him reach a crisis, make him wonder what his life is or we do his past, present, and future haunting him. Fearing what he is doing with his life?
F: Personality - He schemes and manipulates his actors and actresses working for him. Maybe he plays games with his muses to make them enact the images he wants to see
F: For a crying scene, he'll leave a note in their chair/seat from their S/O telling them they're breaking up and to never contact them. Or he'll write a fake letter from the university expelling them
F: Or for romance, he'll leave flowers and chocolates saying they're from a "secret admirer" He'd let them figure it out for themselves
F: The actors themselves have no idea, but it's sort of know that working with Loki = crazy shit happens in your personal life
Me: He could always say the pet was dying, only for the actor to be like wait I don't have a pet after the scene. Or he could say things, I mean break up notes is dark. But if I were them I would leave.
F: He does it to evoke the emotional reaction of his choice. But if shit really hits the fan, like his actors are threatening to quit, then he knows exactly how to motivate them.
Me: Despite his questionable methods, he still cares about the actors. He will let them have their sick days or mourning if they need it.
F: Oh, definitely. He even threw one of his actors a bachelor party.
Me: What do you think is the reason for divorce?
F: Reason for divorce: Maybe she couldn't take it anymore, and then just tells Loki one day she's pregnant. And it isn't his. It actually is Loki's, but she'd rather have him out of her life.
Me: if playwright Loki was real what would be his opposite? Could he be a teacher, perhaps to spot new talent?
F: Oh, love interest would probably be an aspiring actress, or if we're thinking out of the box - it could even be a dang on demigoddess of love (like a daughter of Venus) with a love of literature. Loki sees her on his way to the theater and decides that she will be his next muse.
Me: Goddess and mortal is interesting, and it would be older woman x younger man. I was thinking teacher, since if Loki is a playwright at risk of actors quiting. He might use classes as a way to spot new talent. She could be his new TA, the only one who will take him after all the others quit.
F: Ooh, nice angle! Her being the theater director's assistant and putting up with his nonsense. Reminds me of "Age of Loki" where the reader is Professor Hiddleston's TA.
Me: Exactly, she will be mid-twenties, not too young, but enough in life. Like where one might have a quarter crisis. Or late twenties, at least old enough to be a TA.
F: Well, if he has a TA, then that would mean he's a professor?
Me: Part-time gig, to make more money and scout out new talent for theater.
F: Ah nice. So he teaches acting on the side. And at night, he directs his own productions.
Me: Exactly, it's a win-win, and we can introduce a mid to late twenties love interest without it seeming sus. Or like he is a crib robber, too much of a power imbalance. For they are both equals for the most part. Sound about right?
F: That...yeah NGL (not gonna lie), that sounds much more likable than a young actress with wide eyes and innocence.
F: Sometimes I forget how problematic older, experienced man x wide-eyed ingenue trope can be
Me: Exactly, if people think the love is dubious they won’t like it. We have seen it happen time after time. In no fault to Mr. Hiddleston or the love interest acting, but due to the script. It forms on sexual chemistry lacking romantic. Or it has dubious nature, that makes you not want to ship the couple.
F: I think Hiddleston has yet to play an older love interest, the kind that's juxtaposed alongside an ingenue. (Think seasoned playwright x 20-year-old actress in her first major production) But yeah, I agree that some of his romantic pairings are just awful. Like Bill and Jewel just made me cringe all the time.
Me: I am saying at least mid-twenties, so it doesn’t look like a mid-life crisis. With him sleeping with barely legal women. Plus his younger love interests in the past have been around the same age. If it were real the actress will either be at least 28 or Emma Watson age.
F: Hiddleston himself would probably see something problematic if he were paired with a 23-year-old and be like, "uh...I don't know about this."
Me: Exactly, plus fans would look at the writer and be like why did you do this, a 20-year age difference is fine, but since neither party would be that old, it's different. Let's use Tilda and Mr. Hiddleston as an example, they had the exact same age difference. Mr. Hiddleston was 32, while she was 52.
F: But you've got a good idea to make her a mid-20s woman. Maybe she spent years working as a theater designer - or a waitress or an office worker - to get savings for drama school. And then, she applies, joins an MFA (Masters of Fine Arts) program and joins a RADA-like institution.
Me: Or she came back and managed to avoid his classes. Or if she went to a different drama school, perhaps before he taught.
Me: You know what I just thought of?
F: Yeah? 😀
Me: Thor; Loki’s older brother and oldest friend, the one who stood beside him during the divorce. While he pretends to dislike him, perhaps as an actor, he sees the way Thor does things. Odin would expect both of his sons to go into acting at his school. Only for Thor to go into acting, while Loki went to directing despite his potential in acting.
F: Ooh, Thor as an actor? I don't think I've ever heard of that canon before :)
A/N: So that was our idea, what do you all think? Would you all think of anything, like any details you would add? Perhaps we could make a whole universe, what do you think??
Feel free to comment what you think and your thoughts below.
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DAY 7 in Twisted Strangetown: Investigating the Beakers
THE PREVIOUS DAY
Now that Vidcund is safe and Aktu is in Ajay's possession, Chloe and I figured it would be a good idea to move out and observe the Beakers. We told Pascal that we were doing a secret investigation to locate Bella Goth, which he seemed to take rather well.
He offered to escort us to the Beakers, which I initially assumed was out of kindness. It turned out there was another reason why he asked, though - that weird guy that Boss insisted we protect.
I'm not really into sex or romance, but I'm glad there's at least something going well for him after everything that happened.
Pascal also claimed that he got some valuable information to share to help us with our investigation in regards to "Bella Goth," but it turns out he just wanted to talk shit about Loki and make false claims about him being responsible for every bad thing that's ever happened in Strangetown. He and Chloe spent some time talking trash about him, even though our interactions with Loki are still incredibly limited and we have yet to figure out who he is a person.
Pascal tried to do the same for me, but unlike her, I take my job seriously (okay wow. I'm sorry for trying to enjoy myself and actually interact with other people for non-work related reasons? You gotta learn how to blend in man). I refuse to involve myself in petty drama, especially after what happened with Erin and Kristen.
Needless to say, Pascal did not appear happy about that. I expected better from him, considering his reputation as the most reasonable person in Strangetown. The competition doesn't really appear to be very strong considering the eccentric nature of everyone else, but I hope you can understand my point.
Mr. Beaker was out harassing the other two brothers while Mrs. Beaker was at work, which left only Mr. Subject inside of the house. I watched him try to cook hotdogs, but he ended up setting the grill on fire that nearly killed all three of us (and you didn't do shit when it came to putting it out lol). It's a miracle we were able to live (the miracle is called ME bitch. Give me some damn credit). Either way, I hope the Beakers are better at cooking than he is.
The General told me fascinating information about the Beakers, such as the rumors of Mr. Subject being their living test subject that they perform harmful and illegal experiments on. Erin also told me about her parents being well-loved scientists and not approving of her becoming an oracle, so I suppose Mr. Beaker may be the same way considering he follows the path of his parents.
On an unrelated note, a lot of people tend to think I was the golden child among Chloe and I as some kind of justification for why Chloe is the way she is. The truth is, that was neither of us. Aunt Glabe raised us the best she could, what with our father abandoning us for his new family. We don't know much about them at all since he never visited or wrote us letters, but Aunt Glabe mentioned that he had four kids.
FOUR FUCKING KIDS.
I'd understand abandonment if he wanted to live the childless life, but this is just irrefutable proof that we were unwanted! And the worst part? I don't even know where that man's grave is. Even if I wanted to yell at him and crush his tombstone the way he crushed my aunt's well-being, I can't.
On the bright side, the odds of me ever encountering any of those four kids is pretty low. I imagine they're probably all scattered around the world, living their best life with help from our father. I'm not even sure what they look like. For all I know, I could've encountered one or two of them already. The odds of me somehow meeting all four is really low.
THE NEXT DAY
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Ok so I did a rewatch thread for ATLA a few years ago, and I’m doing it again for the LCU: Loki Cinematic Universe
Thor:
Forgot Thor dropped out of the Sky in New Mexico of all places lmao. Darcy my beloved.
This movie is making me emotional like a minute in. They haven’t even introduced Lokes yet don’t cry don’t cry don’t cry
really gives Star Wars x Lord of the rings energy huh
YEA THOR AND LOKI. Loki’s child casting is ridiculously impeccable though…same nose, facial expressions, we sure this kid ain’t Tom’s?
POOR SWEET SUMMER CHILD LOKI YOU HAVE NO IDEA
When I saw Sif I made this face. 😏 Wow the way they delayed Adult! Loki reveal for dramatic effect. And when I saw him I made this face 😩 and giggled like a schoolgirl. Hnnng I can’t handle Sifki in the same frame they’re too fine. Ok shut up simp.
ZOOM IN ON FRIGGA AT “FIRSTBORN” Obviously they just wanted to show his mom, and they may not have known Hela would be Odin’s daughter when making Thor, but fuck it is funny in hindsight.
ZOOM IN ON LOKI AT SELFISH AMBITION been there Lokes I get ya. They look….so damn good in silver, can we have Loki in Silver again?
Young Thor has anger issues, I forgot how hotheaded he was. wow he’s come a long way…or is that the inconsistent writing…
Loki: judges you in bisexual. Also Loki: don’t be suspicious don’t be suspicious
I forgot about Hogun I feel bad
Don’t go to Jotunheim that will start Loki’s villain arc and spiral into the entire infinity saga
Heimdall told Loki he wasn’t dressed warm enough the foreshadowing. WHEN BIFROST ACTIVATED TO GO TO JOTUNHEIM LOKI GOT ZAPPED FIRST. Where are the frost giants? *camera pans to Loki* there is SO much foreshadowing in this scene, also to Loki being a backstabbing little bitchsicle
Loki’s personality and character voice has been the same for 12 years stop complaining antis. Also thank Tom for that!
Loki should have played off “run back home, little princess” as Laufey referring to them, not Thor. Maybe chaos wouldn’t ensue. Thor you are a rambunctious irresponsible nightmare. You make Loki look cool and calculated, which they are, unless they’re having a psychotic break. Loki really would be and was a better ruler.
FIRST LOKI KNIFE THROW
While that scene is heartbreaking, Loki and the frost giant looking at each other in confusion will never not be funny
Loki saved Fandral awwww I ship it
I like this Thor better. He got too goofy and himbo later. He’s a golden retriever, but a jumpy, bitey golden retriever that tries to pick up sticks that are too big and get it into danger.
Loki was so scared this whole movie. His face is just…filled with dread half the time poor kitten
The love of Thor’s life during Thor: doing fancy science experiments, hanging with her friends, living her best nerd life. The love of Loki’s life during Thor: watches people die gruesome deaths, chokes on ash from supervolcano, narrowly avoids getting sucked into black hole, nearly drowns in mega tsunami, almost gets incinerated by nuke.
Until Sylvie, only Darcy could match Loki’s sheer level of chaos gremlin
Stop punching for 3 seconds Thor or I swear to god I’m gonna punch my television
“Thor is reckless and dangerous” you’re one to talk, Loki
The way Sif says Loki’s name, the way she reaches out to him first, as if she knows her sway on him…hmmm. Fandral jumping to defend Loki as if he himself has been offended….hmmmm.
“Am I cursed” thank you I will be crying though the whole scene. The way he tries to stay collected and just loses his shit…(I actually did cry and had to cut myself a slice of cake)
“Why do you twist my words” he has BPD Odin, that’s your fault
Thor: ANOTHER. Jane: no smashing, unless you’re smashing me
There is such a marked difference in how Loki acts after finding out he’s Jotun, down to the shaky way Tom delivers his lines. Loki is trying to put on this mask of grandeur and poise, when he’s so clearly…broken. How do I reach through the screen and tell him I love him? Loki is king, what he’s wanted forever, and he can’t even enjoy it. He is absolutely devastated. FuCK. But also, he’s having cynical fun with it. He’s had a terrible day, he’s done with everyone’s bullshit, and he’s decided to do whatever he fucking wants
He’s decided to become what everyone wanted from him…He found out he’s Jotun, and he wants to purge that from history and become someone he could never be…
He and Sif soooooo obviously have history, like how did I miss this? There also may be a bit of subtext with Fandral… Loki my Bi king
Also they are so androgynously beautiful this movie, Loki my genderfluid queen
Loki on earth: I will intentionally attract attention by being sexy. Thor on earth: I will unintentionally attract attention by acting like an alien, which I am
Loki’s only real friend is his mother. Unfortunately, I relate.
Jane and Thor are a better fit than I remember. They’re both impulsive, adventurous, but she mellows him out and is his voice of reason. He brings her out of her shell, keeps her life exciting.
Sup Clint
Thor is kinda cute, but too manly for me. My type is tomboys and femboys and everything in between.
I feel like Loki, yelling at Thor through the tv to calm the fuck down and stop hitting people and just sit his ass down and make a fucking plan. Thor and his hammer I swear to god. Maybe if you calmed tf down, you’d be worthy again, you hotheaded arrogant fool
Cinematography popping offfff
Loki: Father is dead. Me: YOU LYING SACK OF ✨beauty✨ *tries to be angry at Loki, literally drools instead* Loki: you are still banished. Me: you little shit! (affectionate). I hate you so much (sexually frustrated)
Loki and Mjolnir. The way he was frustrated, then angry, then heartbroken, but never hopeful. He knew he was never gonna pick that hammer up, but he still tried and failed. He looked like he was gonna yell, then looked like he was gonna cry…baby baby nooo
I’m really just Loki lite. Or Loki is me on a really bad day. Like when it’s 4:am and I’m considering murdering my grandmother. I’ll be like…jeez, am I really that much like Loki? He does some really fucked up stuff. Then I realize that if I was in the same situation, I would do the exact same thing. Psychologically, we are nearly identical. I also have the same gender, sexuality, skin, hair and eye color. I may be a variant, send help.
Marry me Lady Sif
Not Loki showing empathy…no one tell that corner of the fandom that idolizes his worst self and thinks he’s nothing but a cold hearted self obsessed psychopath. Did anyone really think that Robot punch was gonna kill Thor? The hulk hits harder than that. Loki was going easy on him. He does care, somewhere deep in his whole…mess. He never truly wanted to kill Thor, he just thought he did. I don’t think he could have gone through with it either. If he did, killing Thor might have killed him too. Look up splitting in bpd, and you’ll get it.
The plot of this movie is just: Loki has a breakdown
Ok I’m tearing up again at 4:40 am in the morning because sad popsicle just wants to feel loved…but he’s already loved…they just can’t believe anyone would love them for who they are… so he self sabotages bc deep down…they don’t feel worthy of the love they desperately crave *has a breakdown myself*
Loki is just me when I have a borderline personality disorder rage episode, provoke people by saying hurtful shit, and wanna jump off a bridge afterwards ngl
If you destroy the bridge you’ll never see her again…Loki trying to manipulate Thor, or Loki being a hopeless romantic and caring…a bit of both.
Loki’s su!c!de attempt genuinely made me cry, especially because I know he survives actual physical and psychological torture afterwards, and does things that likely haunt him forever. I wish I could tell him that a few years down the line, he will know his family and everyone in Asgard pitied him, loved him, mourned him, and in another timeline he will meet someone who will make him feel understood and validated and seen the way he thought impossible. It’s also making me worry about Sylvie attempting the same next season because…Loki and Sylvie are cut from the same cloth and as they said, they truly have been where she is now and felt what she feels.
End credit scene…I see you Lokes
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Reacting to Contemporary Comics (Without Context) 6/?
Not only are we playing No Context for this arc, we're playing No Context for this character. I have no idea who Iron Fist is. Actually, hang on.
Okay, so I asked my best friend, who knows more about superheroes than I do (because why Google shit when I can just pretend I live in the 80s and ask my friend), what's one thing I should know about Iron Fist before reading, and she said, "Rich white boy gets dropped in a monastery and inherits their ancient Chinese powers." So excuse me, hey Marvel, what the fuck?
I'll be honest, I'm rooting not only for Loki in this but against Iron Fist for 2 reasons. One, I'm here for my boi and nothing else, and 2, I've got personal beef with Iron Fist. This asshole has the audacity to have the same costume colors on basically the same parts of his body as vintage Loki designs, so I'll see an action figure or something from halfway across the comic book store, and get super excited as I full-tilt run safely speed walk towards it, only to be let down by Iron Fist's smug fucking face staring at me like "Bitch (gender neutral) you fucking thought." So fuck this faker. And maybe for racist reasons, too? Alyssa Wong had to have fixed this, right?
Spoilers for Iron Fist issue 1.
Okay, I know nothing, so I don't know if it's been fixed or if Wong fixed it, but it appears Iron Fist's backstory/identity is no longer If Culture Appropriation Was a Character.
And he's with Loki immediately, which is excellent
Oh, so we're back to God of Stories now, huh? We're gonna actually give that title a chance this time (for a year. Until we're back to The Liar for 4 issues)? What happened to God of Outcasts? Because The God Who Fell to Earth came out before this
Oh my god flashback!
Dammit, Thor, why do you always gotta fuck shit up? And right in front of Chekov's frozen lake, too. Are you trying to get your brother to push you in?
This is the most Thorki-coded thing I've seen in canon since the elevator scene in Ragnarok
This comes after ego death, meaning after AoA, but also what the fuck happened to "A brother whom I love"??? Okay, new rule: no one is allowed to write Loki except Ewing. He's the only one who understands the character.
Loki stop being emo and start being a hero
Oh fuck now I ship it. HE SAVED LOKI'S LIFE, what did you expect me to do?!
So...Loki's judgment was whether he could rewrite a betrayal and Iron Fist's is if he can cause one?
What if I just...
I'm sorry.
Oh, so now you're gonna try to bully him into compassion? When the fuck has that ever worked?
No it's almost done and the next issue I have is #5. I'm so into this.
Oh. It's over. They passed. That was too fast.
WHAT DO YOU EXPECT ME TO DO WITH THIS??!!
As if I fucking needed another love interest for this flirty motherfucker
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I saw Thor: Love and Thunder and I have so many things to say, so my thoughts (SPOILERS UNDER THE CUT)
#Please keep Taika Waititi away from the Thor world
PROS:
I love the “Jane Foster has Cancer” storyline they used from the comics. It was emotional, made me cry, and really gave Jane such amazing character development with Thor.
I loved everything with Jane and Thor and Valkryie.
The screaming goats are my spirit animal, especially towards this movie
The main villains motivation made sense and was actually kinda cool...
Jane meeting Heimdall in Valhalla
CONS:
Taika Waititi, the same person, in my opinion, who gave us the shit show that turned out to be Thor: Ragnarok is back at it again, making me wonder what the fuck I just watched and why I did after telling myself I wouldn’t, but I decided to give it a chance and....well, here we are...
Despite the fact I love that they followed the “Jane Foster has Cancer” storyline from the comics, they *sighs and facepalms* BUTCHERED IT in the fact of saying that the hammer is killing her and then killed her off anyway, when in fact in the comics, it was the ONLY thing keeping her alive. Kay....cool.
I just still hate the New Asgard storyline from Thor: Ragnarok. And it gets worse since this time they turned it into a fucking TOURIST ATTRACTION OF A JOKE.
IF I hear that Guns N’ Roses song ONE MORE TIME....
How Lady Sif was treated in the movie. LIKE SERIOUSLY!? They haven’t seen each other in how LONG, and everyone thought she was dead, and they pull this? She’s a legacy character from the 1st film. Instead, they give us a Quick cameo. You lost an arm and almost died, but not a warrior’s death that would get you into Valhalla, so say fuck that and be stuck to train little kids. Kay...The Warriors Three must be rolling in their graves.
WHEN THE FUCK DID HEIMDALL HAVE A KID?! No, sorry, no. I’m not buying it. I just see a convenient writing plot point, nothing more.
I honestly hated the Thor Play in Ragnarok and I hate it even more here....it at least made more sense happening in Thor: Ragnarok because of Loki putting on a dramatic play about the his life. In Love and Thunder it just feels like a joke at this point.
JANE FOSTER DESERVED BETTER! SO. MUCH. BETTER!
Why the fuck did Zeus not die with having a damn lightning bolt be shot right through him, but every other God dies easily, including Asgardians? And no, you can’t tell me that it’s because he’s a god that he lived. AGAIN, ASGARDIANS!
And what the fuck was that ending? So it was all about Thor and the main villains daughter all along? Oh dear sweets gods *facepalms*
#thor: love and thunder criticism#anti taika waititi#anti thor ragnarok#I'm sorry but I just have so many feels
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Leo and Casey’s Foil Dynamic and Why It’s So Interesting
It actually took me a little bit to realize that Casey is Leo’s foil and vise versa. Casey is everything Leo isn’t. He is vary honest, I was actually taken aback at how he never hides what he is feeling and will express vulnerability like it’s nothing. He also knows that he doesn’t know everything and that its perfectly ok. But their dynamic is actually a trope, for lack of an official name I will call it “The One Who Serves Truth and The One Who Serves Lies”. I will be using two examples of this dynamic
Harlan and Marta from Knifes Out
Loki and Mobius from the Loki Series
If you haven’t watched either of these don’t worry I will get into that, let me explain how the dynamic is supposed to work.
The one who serves lies can be an evil character, but most of the time is someone morally gray, someone who is vary smart and is 100% aware of it. But a big key attribute to the Lier is how well they can manipulate those around them. This skill causes the Lier to see all social interaction as a strategic game that they need to win.
The one who serves truth is not only a lawful good character, but a seemingly simple one. They are honest and kindhearted people. Causing others to underestimate them, they can be clever and capable, or too innocent for this world but their true power is the power of the truth, and the honesty of their character.
Harlan and Marta. Honestly Leo is a lot more like Harlan then Loki, but they share a similar rude awakening. Harlan is a famous murder mystery writer, is 100% aware of how smart he is, how well he knows people and how well he can predict them. It’s not until he meets Marta (his day nurse) and gets to know her that he realizes that he had been teaching his own children and grandchildren this mindset to treat everything like chess and how badly it’s hurt them and their worldview
It’s while playing his last game of Go with Marta that he offhandedly lamented what he should have done differently as a father (all things that Marta advised). I have no idea how to play Go but it’s during this scene they quoted the overall tone of the movie and how Harlan sees Marta.
“Why can’t I ever beat you at Go?”- Harlan
“Because I am not trying to win, I am trying to make a beautiful pattern”-Marta
The one who serves truth, changes the one who serves lies point of view, outlook on life and themselves
Loki and Mobius. If you haven’t seen the Loki series I recommend it because this is the best written Loki. This Loki is actually taken from the point in time right before going to prison on Asgard at the end of the first Avengers movie. He is captured by an organization who’s purpose is to keep to the sacred time line. Him escaping the Avengers caused an alternate time line to branch off, and was about to be punished, until one of the chief members of the organization, Mobius, takes up for him
Mobius is much more strategic in how much of the truth is told at once but isn’t any less honest, he is vary upfront but also kind. All the while giving off the vibe of an office worker. The organization has access to every person’s entire life including Loki’s. Mobius conducts their first conversation in an integration room reviewing Loki’s life via film reel. Mobius actually starts off in Loki’s earlier life pranking earth (turns out he was D.B.Cooper) Mobius as it turns out is a big fan of Loki’s mischievousness and sees him as vary clever.
It’s not with every pair, but sometimes the truth server sees whats special about the lier past their ability to shit talk. Mobius sees what’s grate about Loki just as Casey sees what’s grate about Leo
But then he gets to the attack on New York and does something no else has done something Loki didn’t plan for. He directly asks Loki that if he enjoyed doing this that if this is who he was, he isn’t making any assumptions or coming to his own conclusions like everyone else, no, Mobius wants an answer directly from him he asks
“Do you enjoy hurting people?”
He shows Loki all the consequences to his actions, including his mother’s death. Loki try’s to get away but concedes defeat and goes back to the integration room waiting for Mobius to find him there while he watches the rest of the reel of his life. He comes to a conclusion after watching his reconciliation with his brother and his own death. Loki has treated everything like a strategy game he has to win but coming face to face with the cold hard truth, when Mobius finds him Loki answers his question
It’s the same with Leo and Casey, someone pointed out that Leo is so good at predicting people that he most likely got Raphael angry on purpose because he knew that it would cause a fight that splinter would have to brake up and he can put off facing Raph’s concerns. I 100% agree
A lot of people thought Casey was being way to harsh with Leo, but do you remember when Raph tried to voice his concerns and level with Leo in a nicer way? And remember what Leo’s response was?
(Images you can hear)
That wasn’t getting through to Leo, he is doing it much less consciously then Harlan or Loki, but he still acted like he needed to win like if he was vulnerable he losses
Yeah he uses humor to deflect things, but nothing that serious. Honestly I think that he thought that admitting that he saw what Raph was saying was proving Raph right that he couldn’t do this. But I don’t think he is acting on more then what he is feeling in that moment, because he doesn’t even want the job, and its causing his strained relationship with splinter to turn into full on resentment, but damn it if he doesn’t have something to prove
When Casey arrived on the scene, we all got the impression that he is Leo’s Boy Scout the way he sings his praises, and I think Leo thought this about Casey too. And him being Leo’s student in the future made Leo associate Casey in a familial sense, as someone who loves him, and thought that Casey would treat him and his aversion tactics somewhat the same as everyone else who loves him, and was dead fucking wrong
“I am the greatest ninja in the world, you said so”
“I WAS WRONG!”
He is equal parts hurt and shocked, he was not expecting that, nor was he expecting him to go into a full blown lecture. Casey’s strong familial love for Leo didn’t cloud his conviction
He doesn’t have anything cute to say when Casey starts laying into him for everything, just turns away pouting. But really let’s what Casey says sink in when he learns that his family dies in the bad future. Casey got past Leo’s defense with the ugly truth, and just like for the two previous liars the truth hurt so bad
But it also set them free of the weaknesses they were holding onto and was the start of something new
“I don’t want to fight anymore, I just want you to know I get it”
#rottmnt#rottmnt movie#rottmnt casey jones#rise of the tmnt#rise of the teenage mutant ninja turtles#rottmnt leo#rottmnt movie spoilers#knifes out#as reference#loki series#also as reference
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I wanna keep this blog alive so AU rambles
Spoilers for p5r ahead
Phantom Thief leader Akechi AU!!
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Akechi
-Still a detective, still works for Shido
-gets caught up in the whole mess bc Ann comes in to a police office to report bitchface mcgee (Kamoshida), the police don't do anything (they obviously know) but Akechi happened to be around and just "actually fuck that guy, yeah I'll help"
-he does not want to be a "good guy" he has his goal, this is just a pitstop
-he avoids the moral conflict of what he's doing at any given point in time by simply Not Thinking About It
-this event makes him think about it. oh no. we are not opening that baggage it is filled to the brim and will make a mess if we try
-through shenanigans aka. dumb fuck doesnt check for people while entering the metaverse, he gains a Ryuji on his party. also morgana ends up there
-essentially through out this whole mess he goes from "I hate team. I do not want to be on a team. Fuck off please" to "company is nice but Only This Once" to "I can get away with a team, I already live one double life, what's another?" to "I am in active moral conflict"
-He and Ryuji are good friends and I would die for them, ryuji is the emotion based counter weight to Akechi's extremely logic based nature
-Ann and Akechi are BestiesTM. wlw mlm solidarity very quickly. Ann bullies him for his fashion (he explains it's to give off the vibes of the previous detective prince and his reputation struggles eventually and she eases up kinda)
-Makoto and Him get an actually well written friendly rivalry
-He tells everyone about his "job" after Futaba's palace.
-stars out using Loki but as time goes on starts using Robinhood sometimes too, eventually uses them both
-loki doesnt like the whole hero thing but also it adds more chaos into the mix soits fun
-Robinhood shows up more the more good things Akechi does. Akechi uses mostly Robinhood in Futaba's palace as almost a comfort against his guilt. Robinhood reminds him of his will to be good when he was just a kid
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Akira
- uh-oh
- he doesn't end up meeting Ryuji, or Ann for that matter
- rumors about him still exist though so, no one else really talks to him
-Sumi is his only friend <//3
-He accidentally finds his way into mementos. listen if Akechi managed to find mementos and how tf palaces worked on his own, so can Akira
-he sees the shadow of some kid there who is the Local BullyTM
-ends up getting in a fight, getting his ass kicked, and Arsene appears, and fight continues, shadow gets spared but not, really talked into being good or anything
-next time akira sees the bully in the real world the guy is much more timid and jumpy, doesnt bully anyone but not out of a change of morals, just fear
-eventually he puts it together that: mementos affects reality-, how? somehow. he hasnt gotten that far yet
-he ends up accidentally killing someone in their palace at one point, a bad person, yeah, but it still shakes him up really bad once he understands what happened. this is where he gets a new persona (I designed and named it I swear but I forgot its fUckin name, I'll show it off at some point) (side note: this event makes news and akechi goes "oh shit oh fuck oh shit I dIDNT DO THAT-" Shido is on his ass about it and tells him to get rid of whoever did it.)
-Akechi almost kills Akira in the metaverse at some point but let's him off, Akira spends some time (trying to) stalk akechi in the metaverse when he can, and finds out about his identity before the thieves do, and just becomes convinced that if akechi catches him again he will kill him
-just scared, confused, and traumatized really, considers himself judge jury and executioner after a while, and thinks hes beyond redemption (being mentally ill makes you think irrationally, dont expect him to be a great person)
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side notes: akira gets a new outfit, Akechi's outfit is the same as his black mask one at first but eventually it changes as his view of himself changes
#id write more but its uhhh time for class#goro akechi#persona 5#ren amamiya#persona 5 royal#p5 akechi#p5 joker#akira kurusu
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My personal headcanon (that no one asked about), is that our boy Loki was having a hard time after the whole New York thing and with the weird stuff that was happening in the TVA, and then he met a version of himself and maybe thought like yk we‘re kinda like the same person, maybe we can understand each other
Idk if the whole thing have him a new perspective on himself but however it went there is definitely some kind of connection going on and if it’s only because they‘re variants of the same person.
Now, I get this thing where, when I like someone, whoever it is, i start to get troubled confused because I can’t for my life differentiate between different kinds of affection/attraction, i just know it’s there (and that I don’t feel sexual attraction but that’s not the point). It gets to the point where I’m like do i want to kiss/cuddle you, love you, or be friends with you? Or do i want to BE you?!
So naturally, my personal headcanon involves Loki getting the vibe that there is some kind of thing going on (which, naturally), and that kind of messed with his head because, the whole situation is already confusing and he‘s kinda having a hard time with feelings in general. So now that he‘s confronted with a person that for once might ACTUALLY possibly be able to understand/relate to him in some way- that’s huge. And now he doesn’t know what to do. But he likes her and wants her to be ok so that has to be Love right?
Romantic love? Debatable. Not for me personally.
Of course a part of him searches for friends &/or connection because he‘s always lacked that. He probably feels like he might be more accepted by people that are like him in the closest way possible - the variant way.
The fact that they knew each other for like, a day or a week at most, and went through some serious shit, especially directly after what happened in New York & in the Time Theatre (& probably with Thanos) he‘s vulnerable. And it shows. If they‘d met under different circumstances or gotten the chance to actually get to know each other, this whole thing never might have happened.
I think it’s possible the kiss was a result of that emotional turmoil, because she saw that he cares about her, she saw the weak spot. He even tells her that he wants her to be okay if I remember correctly. So she goes for the kiss, because that is kind of a surprise for him. He‘s stunned. And that’s the moment she pushes him back and away.
I‘m not saying that Sylvie doesn’t care for Loki, i think a part of her does, but the part that wants revenge is stronger. Again, do i think whatever she feels for him is romantic? Probably not. I don’t think she feels much besides companionship for him at all actually.
In the end, I honestly don’t think they even had enough time to even make up their minds about that stuff. All that happened, in my mind-space, happened because of the circumstances they were in. Their escape, running from the TVA, fighting to get to the end of time, that stuff forges some bond. Fighting a war together always forges some kind of bond. And the emotions run high here, especially for Loki who gets poked in the feels every episode.
I don’t know if all of this is coherent or makes sense. It feels pretty much all over the place but I feel like I mostly said what I was trying to say.
Like do you get my meaning?
Emotional bond - yes. Romance - probably not.
Or something like that.
I don’t know if this makes me sound desperate or not, but it’s my take on this topic, and it’s taken me some time to wrap my head about what I personally think. And given that it’s a show and up for interpretation, i think I’m allowed to give my take to the people too. Right? Right.
#the fact that I get praised for my analysis writing in school but am unable to pull it off here#loki#this is making me nervous idk why#i feel like the topic is pretty heated#loki series#Maybe I’ll write it out properly some time idk#sylvie loki#marvel#mcu#that facial expression afterwards like#-idk what just happened and we‘re gonna talk about that later but rn i got other things to care about-#my thougts#my headcanons#headcanon#loki headcanon#loki odinson#loki laufeyson#disney+
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What It Was Like To Almost Die At 20
As the title states, there will be mentions of death and talk of heart-related problems (medical trauma warning). There will also be mentions of abuse, narcissism, and a bad reaction to recreational drugs. You have been warned.
That aside, this post will be more centered on my emotional experiences, rather than my spiritual ones. For those interested, I will make a post about the more spiritual side of this when I feel more emotionally ready to tackle the topic. I'm adding a cut for those who don't wish to see this post. No shame if you don't want to or can't read this. This is mostly my way of processing the events of last Saturday (January 21st).
This was very hard for me to write. I don't expect it to be easy to read.
I've had a really hard week. It began, however, on an optimistic note.
I was visiting friends (whom, of which, I no longer consider friends), spending time with someone who I thought was a good influence on my life, despite the red flags and warnings. Despite who her partner was.
See, this friend, whom I had only met in November of 2022 or so, is in a poly relationship with a narcissistic man who wanted to be intimate with me (for context, everyone in this story, besides myself, is 24; the age difference made it very uncomfortable for me). She lives with two other polycule members, and although she admitted knowing he was an abusive narcissist who would likely never attend therapy, she proceeded to firmly believe she could change him.
Since abuse is a complex topic, let me clarify that I don't blame her for this. I think she was, and very much still is, under this man's influence. I do, however, blame her for her actions on Saturday night.
This friend - we'll call her Crow - knew that I was uncomfortable in her lover's - we'll call him Bear - presence. I had told her that I planned on keeping him blocked, as I had blocked him after finding out all the shit he had done to Crow and the other polycule members. I told her that it was ok if I was around him, but my views would change as the night went on.
The night started with Crow and I meeting at her house, as we had planned for a full week before. She also let a person I didn't know join us, although I was not ok with this. The new person will be called Dog.
Crow, Dog, and I hung out in a room where she worshipped her deities. I had agreed to give Crow a tarot reading from Loki, and suffice it to say, Loki wasn't very happy with some things Crow was doing. It was at this point that Crow revealed to me the actual extent of Bear's abuse. Being an abuse victim myself, her story bothered me deeply, and I was no longer comfortable in Bear's presence, which I asserted. To further my anxiety, Crow stated Bear didn't like the fact that I was not physically attracted to him, despite his advances on me (I will not go further into this). What made it all worse is that Bear would soon be home, and I had no way to leave Crow's house without getting a ride from her, but one of the other polycule members was using the car. So I was stuck there, in a very uncomfortable situation, as someone with severe PTSD and a very bad experience with Bear first-hand already.
Dog then began arguing with me about witchcraft, which came pretty much out of nowhere, stating that I was a bad person for wanting to seek justice against my past abusers through baneful means. They lectured me about letting go of the trauma and "just moving on", speaking as if they had some sort of authority on the subject. I dismissed them and went back to giving Crow her reading.
Sometime later, Bear finally came home. I assumed Crow, Dog, and I would stay where we were or that Crow would go greet Bear and then return, but apparently, I assumed wrong. Crow and Dog told me I had to go out there and see Bear, talk to him. I had a panic attack, and even still, they pushed me out of the room and into the next room with Bear. Bear kept staring at me as Crow and Dog spoke, and at some point, Crow left the room entirely, leaving me with basically a stranger I met that day and a shitty abuser who made me extremely uncomfortable.
This part is a bit of a blur, but after a while, Crow comes back, and we all head upstairs, Bear following directly behind me. We went into the living room and chatted, but Crow and the others quickly moved outside and I was left alone with Bear and Dog. I cannot express how on-alert and terrified I felt at that moment, but I had to pretend like everything was ok because I was essentially told that I was making a big deal out of nothing.
Some time passes, and I start to notice a strong spiritual feeling that Bear was attacking me and one of my deities (presumedly Ares) had stepped in to block the attack. Now, it's important that I stress that I'm a very spiritual person who has had MANY experiences in my life that I would deem spiritual, but never in my life had I ever felt a sensation that strongly. I can feel the deity holding a shield in front of me between Bear and myself. It was utterly terrifying. And I could do nothing about it.
Dog then began misgendering me consistently, even after I corrected them, and I began feeling dysphoric on top of being wildly anxious and triggered. The night just kept getting worse, it seemed.
Then the fateful decision that led to my almost-death was finally put on the table.
A single 10 milligram edible marijuana gummy.
I thought, "Fuck it, I'm wildly uncomfortable anyway. Maybe eating this will calm me down." And I was wrong. I was dead wrong.
I ate the gummy and felt nothing for a while, much to my dismay. In fact, I noticed I felt a little more anxious than before. But I shrugged this off. It was my first time getting properly high, so I thought that maybe it was just my nerves. I just needed to calm down.
Thirty minutes pass and the room begins to spin. I sit down and feel my heart beating quicker and quicker in my chest, its thump pulsing through my veins so strongly that I could feel it all over my body. At first, I thought this was normal. I was starting to get high, so my judgment was impaired. I couldn't tell how serious this was getting.
Bear sits next to me, and my breath catches in my throat. Even with impaired judgment, I was unable to relax around him. I still felt afraid, even more so than before, actually. My pulse quickened even more, but something felt wrong about it.
"I think my heart's beating too fast," I stated, barely about to get the words out with how quickly I was breathing.
"Are you ok?' I look up and Rabbit, the only person I still talk to, was looking at me. Everyone was looking at me, but their faces looked like they were melting.
"My heart- can someone check my pulse?" I was beginning to get really scared now as the room spun faster and faster. Part of my hands were going numb - the pinkie and ring fingers, specifically.
Rabbit ran over to me and checked my heart. He only checked for thirty seconds before standing up and saying, "We're going to the hospital."
A normal heart rate is between 60-100 beats per minute. Within thirty seconds, my heart beat 90 times.
I tried to stay calm and asked what he got, but Rabbit refused to tell me. He just helped me put on a pair of crocs I didn't own and a jacket then rushed me outside with his friend in tow.
We got into the car, and Rabbit immediately started driving before he even knew where he was headed. I tried to give directions, but my lack of sobriety was doing us no favors.
I started crying - something that is significant for me because I hardly cry in front of others. I could no longer feel my hands and my feet were beginning to go numb. I began praying to Apollo.
"Apollo," I whispered, "I'm dying. Please help me."
We pulled into a gas station, Rabbit somewhat panicking now because we couldn't find the nearest hospital. He called the ambulance instead, holding my hand as he did so. I felt this sudden intuitive feeling that I would be ok, that no matter what happened, I would survive this, but at that moment, I can't say I was paying much attention to that feeling.
I thought about my dogs and cats, as silly as it sounds, and thought about Apollo. Those things comforted me as we sat there, waiting for an ambulance to arrive. By this point, my legs were entirely numb, and so were my arms. My face was starting to go numb, too, and I felt like I was going to pass out. I stopped crying, not because of pride or some petty thing but because I couldn't even feel my eyelids.
The severity of it all began sinking in.
I was probably going to die.
And there was nothing I could do about it but wait.
I didn't even hear the ambulance arrive, I just noticed Rabbit and his friend getting out of the car quickly. A medic opened my door. His name was C. Crow. A little on the nose, Apollo, but much appreciated.
Two medics, C. Crow included, helped me into the ambulance. I couldn't even feel my feet hitting the ground at this point, and even the medics were surprised I was still conscious. They put me onto the stretcher, and I thought was started moving immediately - it felt as much as such - but we were stationary for the next thirty minutes or so as the medics hastily hooked me up to IVs and attempted to get as much info as they could from me before I would certainly pass out.
I could no longer feel anything; I was completely numb. My heart was racing, and even though I thought I was breathing normally (12-20 breaths per minute), I was absolutely not (60 breaths per minute).
I heard one of the medics say my heart had gone past 200 beats per minute.
My neck hurt. It was so tense that even though everything was numb, I could feel how tense my neck was.
"This is it," I thought, "Surely, this is it."
I thought of my dogs and cats and how I'd never see their faces again. My truest companions in the entire world, and I'd never get to say goodbye.
I thought of the few people who were close to me. Just images of their faces or our text conversations passing through my mind.
I thought of all that I had been through - all the abuse, assault, and torture... Was it all for nothing? Was I really going to die before my life could get better? Before I moved out of the house of abusers I live in? Before I could finally move to Spain or Greece? Before I had even gone to college? It was all going to be over, and there was nothing I could do about it.
A medic sat beside me and started talking directly to me. "Keep breathing," He instructed, "You're breathing very fast, so can we take some deep breaths together?"
"Yeah," I said, and I followed his instructions to breathe slower. He took in deep breaths with me, but I couldn't breathe slower. I just kept gasping for air whenever I tried to take a deep breath in.
He stopped talking to me. I think we both know what we were expecting to happen next. It was a silent, mutual agreement. There was no way I'd stay conscious.
But I didn't give up.
"Can we talk about dogs?" I asked the medic, my eyes filled with tears.
"Sure, we can talk about dogs," He said with a small smile. I think he was holding my hand, but I couldn't tell.
"I have three dogs and two cats," I said, my voice shaking, "I love them very much."
"See, I can talk about dogs, but I don't know anything about cats." He replied, "I'm allergic."
The ambulance started moving for the first time. I thought we had been moving the entire time, but we only just started to get on the road.
The medic went silent. No one said anything else to me as we drove. We all held our breaths, unsure of what exactly was going to happen next.
I recall this feeling in the air - something I didn't mention to you before. From the moment the medics got to me, to the moment we arrived at the hospital, I could feel Apollo's presence. But it wasn't anything like how I'd experienced it before; it was as if he was in the air around the medics, working around and through them. He was there with me, and even though he didn't feel particularly focused on me, it felt like he was still there, holding my hand.
It's impossible to describe - the ambulance ride with these medics and Apollo. It's impossible to describe the feeling I felt in its entirety. It gave me a new perspective on gods that I had never experienced before. I wish I could convey it to you better.
After the ambulance ride, everything was kind of a blur. It took six hours, but they got me to stable levels without me losing consciousness at all. I was even able to return home at some unholy hour of the night.
We still don't know what actually caused the reaction, and for the past week, I've had horrible panic attacks every single night of the events that occurred. I see images of Bear's face flash through my mind as I have them.
I may not know what entirely happened, but I've never been so goddamn happy to see my dog's face.
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The fact that they try to pass S*lki off as "self love" and that "it makes sense because he's a narcissist" honestly disgusts me. Loki's NOT a narcissist lmao we see so clearly all that self hatred and sense of unbelonging getting buried under an over-the-top stage persona. Self love and acceptance is such a huge part of not just Loki's journey in the comics but in the mythological/historical figure as well-an outcast among the gods not just for having a giant for a father but for "flaunting" their fluid identity and refusing to adhere to societal norms. Nothing is more tender to me than Loki gently kissing their alternate self on the forehead and reassuring them that everything will be all right and that they are loved. Sickens me that the MCU has taken all of that away.
Gonna start this by saying I don't mean to turn this ask into a vent but It just came out like that.
Honestly, I realised after a while of thinking that I'm not a therapist so I can't really talk about what mental illness does Loki has.
But what I know is being a narssist is not a bad thing. the show and people on the internet are treating narssissam as a bad thing and this is very harmful.Especially to people who has the disorder, they're humans too. Not all narssist are bad people and it's sad people keeps trying to single them out as such.
The message of the show is kinda terrifying. Especially to people like me who's questioning why they act the way they do. I'm now considering whether I am one or not and I'm too scared to go check therapy because of the termeant everyone and the show has to this personality disorder.
Loki didn't learn self love in the show. The one who learned self love is sylvie, she's the one who got the pep talk and she's the one getting someone by her side willing to forgive her for her mistakes because they understand how she feels.Someone Loki never had in his life, someone who won't beat the shit out of her every time he finds out she's not dead someone won't try to disregard her feelings for someone else, someone who's cable of giving praises to her giving her all the emotional support he has. What Loki learned is his feelings doesn't matter. Hopefully season two would fix this by having sylvie knowledge her treatment of Loki is bad or apologizing to him.
I personally don't even understand where does narssissam even take place in the story. It's literally not even a plot point. The whole story is that Loki got told his life was a lie AGAIN.Instead of getting angry this time he gave up on everything because really what is he supposed to do? Then he found sylvie as his new will to live and spent the entire time simping for her minewhile she looked very uncomfortable :/.
People are like "but she cares about him!" bitch and? Good she cares for him now can she physically show she does? Maybe a hug? Maybe praise Loki? Maybe try not being mean? I literally can't ship this if there is no equality between the couple. The man shouldn't be the only one doing the heavy lifting in the relationship .They don't sound or feel like a happy cute couple to me.
I'm willing to give the ship a chance if in the next season sylvie is gonna be actually good to Loki but for now I hate it.
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god i’m going to be so upset if they kill loki at the end of this series. if they just sit there and confirm that loki can only exist to better other people, that he’ll never get to live and heal and be happy himself.
#but thats the exact type of shit marvel would pull#and theyd think that theyre such great story tellers#let this loki live#let this loki have friends#let this loki feel like he belongs somewhere#dont water down his character to someone who will always be in pain#and always be bad#and always die before he gets the chance to live#let him be the main character for once#not just the character who exists to teach other characters a lesson#loki#loki series#lokius#<adding that one because YEAH IM ALSO GOING TO BE PISSED IF THEY KILL MOBIUS#the only person in lokis new life that actually gives a shit about him#LET LOKI BE LOVED#platonic or romantic i dont care#just let him have people who care about him and want to see him thrive
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MCU Hot Take/AU Theory - long post, be warned!
Just because Endgame is being picked on again, I thought I’d share my perspective because why not. Gifs aren’t mine, credit goes to the talented creators on this app.
Neither Natasha nor Clint should have died on Vormir…because neither of them should have been on Vormir.
I never really understood the reason for splitting up the teams the way they did in Endgame, and here’s why.
Aside from what has already been acknowledged on Vormir, the right people were all on the wrong missions. If you think about it, by sending Nebula to Morag, they had to address Thanos all over again, by sending Thor to Asgard, he was forced to address all of the trauma and grief he was suffering in the worst possible circumstances, Tony messed up and let Loki get away, and then Steve got recognized on the base dedicated to him (shocker!).
It’s at this point that I bring up a line from the first Avengers movie. “This is monsters and magic and nothing we were ever trained for.” Natasha says this to Clint, and I really wish the writers had thought about that more going forward. Clint and Natasha were trained spies, and we almost never saw them act like it because the films were too busy making them keep up with the rest of the team superheroes. Why not just use their OG skill sets rather than give them new ones to provide additional character development? (Looking at you lullaby Nat 👀)
So here’s how I would’ve done it. Thor should’ve gone to New York with Scott, Tony, and Rhodey. Thor, who has had the most experience with Doctor Strange, whom they were expecting to find, would have done just as good a job at convincing the Sorcerer Supreme of handing over the Time Stone. Rhodey would not have looked out of place in that lobby so he wouldn’t have had to rush away in fear of being caught and then not been knocked over by an angry Hulk. Scott goes with him, and Tony gets the scepter, and flies away without being caught by Captain America.
Rocket and Clint should have gone to Morag. The two of them are very good at sneaking around and taking out people clandestinely, so they should’ve been getting the Power Stone. Also the dynamic between Clint and Rocket would have been absolute comedy.
Natasha and Nebula could’ve paired up for Asgard. Thanos could have noticed two Nebulas at once again, still leaving the big fight at the end, and as two women, they would’ve probably gotten along well enough to make the movie actually pass the Bechdel test.
Now back to Vormir. Steve and Bruce. Putting the Red Skull on Vormir is a choice I could respect, but then making it so Steve would never interact with him on screen was a mistake. The fact that a Nazi gets to live and Natasha didn’t will never sit right with me. So Natasha is never there. Steve interacts with the Red Skull, who then gets to taunt him with the emotional trauma of needing to sacrifice a life to save those he cares about, only for Bruce to call bullshit and sacrifice himself instead, and gaining something he’s hinted at wanting since the first Avengers movie.
But wait. Maybe he doesn’t have to die. The Hulk made Bruce somewhat immortal in canon, and in the sake of someone needing to die, they could’ve become one person and thus given Professor Hulk a far better origin. Steve also doesn’t go back in time and get a nostalgia kick that ruins his character development and most importantly, Natasha doesn’t have to die at the expense of a character who’s sole existence in the MCU has historically been propped up and motivated by his fellow female characters.
(I might actually write this as a fic if I ever get round to it, and these are just my thoughts, I’m sure many of you disagree, but I don’t give a shit)
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Every Single Issue I Have With S*lki (It’s Not Just The Selfcest)
Here goes. I threatened to post this a few days ago and never did, but I just saw a s*lki stan Twitter account claim that Loki caring about Sylvie more than the whole multiverse was a Good And Romantic thing and it pushed me over the fucking edge, so now you all have to read this. I’ve divided it into categories cause there’s just THAT much.
OOC Bullshit
• First and foremost, no amount of mental gymnastics you do will ever make me believe that this specific Loki- the one that just invaded New York, that just came off a year of Thanos Torture, that just got done being influenced by the sceptre, that was literally in the middle of a crisis already, and then on top of that went through all the trauma of Ep 1- would even be worried about a romantic relationship. That would be the furthest thing from his mind. Go back and watch how he acted in Avengers- you think that guy would abandon his previous mission to become a snivelling simp for a girl he’d just met 3 days prior? Yeah, there’s no universe in which that makes sense.
• “It’s very in character for Loki to fall in love with himself lololol-“ NO, it’s literally not. Out of all the characters in the mcu, I don’t think I can think of anyone that genuinely hates themselves more than Loki. He even referred to all his other male variants as “monsters” and said meeting them was “a nightmare” in this series. He’s got so much self-loathing, plus the fact that he genuinely thinks himself to be an evil backstabbing scourge- so there’s no evidence at all suggesting that he would ever develop a fondness for, or even be inclined to trust, another version of himself, after only knowing them for 3 days.
• Building on that, the whole concept of Loki falling in love with a version of himself just feeds into the annoying ass misconception that he’s a narcissist. No matter which way you stack it, he’s not. If you’re referring to NPD, he doesn’t fit the criteria, and if you’re saying “narcissist” just as a slang term meaning “selfish and arrogant”, that still doesn’t accurately describe him. But when creators like Waldron and Herron do things like having him fall in love with himself, it makes it so much easier for casual viewers to think that he is.
Shitty LGBT Rep
• It’s kinda sus that Loki’s are allegedly genderfluid and yet the only female-presenting variant we see (and apparently the only female-presenting variant there is, cause the male Loki’s all seemed unfamiliar with the concept) is treated as some kind of mind-bogglingly special paradox. Also very sus that, out of all the Loki variants, the one our Loki falls in love with just so happens to be the only female one. What a coincidence.
• The fact that the creators of the show went around bragging about Loki’s bisexuality and Marvel purposefully (lbr) allowed stories about Loki possibly having a male love interest to circulate, specifically enticing queer viewers to watch the show (you know, the definition of queerbaiting), and then instead of having a male love interest (Loki was the first queer main character, so it was the perfect opportunity) they gave us *gestures to this dumpster fire* this… it’s just a middle finger to LGBT fans. The fact that they would rather have this relationship with all its myriad of problems than have a gay relationship is just……. Very telling.
• While him being with a woman obviously doesn’t refute his bisexuality, the fact that they showed/talked about him being interested in 3 different women (flight attendant, Sylvie, Sif) and never even hinted at him being attracted to a man, definitely makes it seem like they were trying to cover up his bisexuality to smooth things over with the more homophobic viewers. You know? It’s like “I know you’re pissed that we sorta confirmed Loki as bi, so we promise we’ll never mention it again! Or even hint at it! As a matter of fact, we’ll give him lots of female lovies and make him seem as straight as possible! That’ll take your mind off of that horrible crumb of queer rep, right? Please please please keep giving us your money!!!”
• Aside from all the other issues, at its core, the biggest reason why I think I’m so irritated with s*lki is that it took one of the most interesting, complex, and diverse characters in cinema atm and squished him into a tired ass unnecessary heteronormative subplot…. Like literally every. single. other. protagonist. ever. Loki is such a unique character, and it’s so so so incredibly disappointing that they stuck him into that same boring cookie cutter romance that happens to every other character in every other movie I’ve ever seen. It’s a disservice, and it’s honestly just not compelling or entertaining at all.
Thematic Issues Galore
• His arc didn’t need a romance. With anyone. It was unnecessary and it didn’t make sense plot-wise. In fact, one of the reasons he was my fav prior to this was because he was the only big-name mcu character whose story wasn’t muddied-up by a romance that didn’t need to be there. So much for that.
• He wasn’t emotionally ready for a romantic relationship with anyone. Hell, just a genuine friendship would’ve been pushing it for him at this point. He was in such a bad state that any relationship he got into would’ve been toxic and unhealthy for both him and the other person, and it doesn’t make sense why the writers would want to put him in one when there were so many cons and essentially no pros (other than “Uwu aren’t they cute together”).
• Sylvie’s character in general was unnecessary and Loki’s character was robbed just by her being there. The whole show became about her post-Ep 2. They spent most of the time giving her backstory, building her up, telling us how awesome she is, trying to convince us to like her, etc when what they really needed to be doing was building Loki up- cause I gotta say, if I had to describe TVA!Loki in a few words, they would be Flat, Boring, and Weak.
• The romance overtakes the plot. They spend time portraying their supposed connection that could’ve been spent adding depth and complexity to literally any of the characters. They make the big Nexus Event them giving each other googly eyes on Lamentis when it could’ve been so many other way more profound things that speak to the fundamental nature of Loki’s. They have the climax of the finale be “oh no she betrayed him to kill He Who Remains” when it could’ve been something way more compelling (Loki having a moral crisis over whether or not to kill HWR, Loki contemplating the state of the multiverse and weighing the pros and cons of freedom vs order, Loki looking into some What If situations and getting emotional about what could’ve been regarding his family, Loki realising the gravity of HWR’s offer and finally coming to terms with how important he is to the universal cycle, etc etc). The entire plot suffered in favour of a romance that half of us didn’t even want.
• It essentially reduced all of Loki’s potential character growth down to “He did it for his crush.” He seemed to at least have some motivations of his own in Ep 1-2 (feeble as they were) but after Sylvie showed up in Ep 3, literally every action he took was just him being a simp for her. Why did he lie in the interrogation? To try to protect Sylvie. Why did he fight the minutemen and Timekeepers? To survive kinda, but mostly cause it was important to Sylvie. Why did he get pruned? Cause he got distracted trying to confess his crush to Sylvie. Why did he try to get out of The Void? Cause he thought Sylvie needed him. Why did he stay in The Void? Cause Sylvie was staying. Why did he try to enchant Alioth? Cause Sylvie told him to. Why did the multiverse get cracked open, leading to an infinite number of Kangs waging war on all of existence? Cause Loki didn’t wanna hurt Sylvie in their fight at the Citadel and then get distracted by her kissing him. It’s uninteresting and honestly pretty embarrassing.
• Throughout their “relationship arc” the writers do their absolute damndest to convince us that we should like Sylvie more than Loki. And you know what? It’s the most hypocritical shit I’ve ever seen. They preach and preach about how Sylvie’s life has been so difficult/we should feel bad for her/she had it so bad/poor poor sylvie/she had it SO much worse than pampered prince Loki…. But then they never even touch on any of Loki’s trauma of hardships (the ones that have been ignored for literally 3 movies now). They frame Sylvie as a good person and a Freedom Fighter after she spent literal decades/centuries mass-murdering brainwashed TVA agents and showing exactly zero remorse for it….. but then they make it their mission to constantly remind us that Loki is a terrible person and constantly put him in situations where he’s forced to acknowledge his wrongdoings/show remorse/admit to how “evil” he is for being a mass murderer for like 2 years. They show him on-screen having a wider range of powers than her, and perpetuate his whole shtick of being a “master manipulator” or whatever….. But then they make Sylvie “the brawn” more competent, intelligent, and physically capable than him. Tell me how it’s a good thing for a ship to be so narratively biased toward one character.
Missed Opportunities
• If they absolutely had to have a romance subplot, then they could’ve paired Loki with one of the characters that have already been established OR one of the characters that were a big part of the whole TVA storyline anyway. It would’ve been so interesting if they’d revealed that Loki had a history with some of the players from previous films (Sif and Fandral both come to mind). It also would’ve been really interesting if they’d given Loki a love interest that actually had some allegiance to the TVA as a whole (Mobius maybe, but not necessarily. It also could’ve been Renslayer or B-15). Hell, imo it would’ve been cool if they’d followed through with that “See you again someday” line that he said to the flight attendant in Ep 1. ALL of these characters have way more chemistry with him than Sylvie, and they were also already relevant to the plot without wasting half the show to give background info on them.
• If they absolutely had to have a hetero-presenting love story involving an enchantress-type figure, then there’s a whole Enchantress (Amora) that was actually Loki’s love interest in the comics. Plus, fans have been screaming for Amora to appear in the mcu for years. Plus, Tom literally pitched an Amora/Loki storyline way back in 2012-13. Also, Lorelei (another enchantress) is also one of Loki’s love interests in the comics, and she already exists in the mcu (she was on Agents of SHIELD). There were several different established characters for them to choose from. Creating a whole knew amalgamation of a character and going with the “she’s a Loki variant” storyline was just completely unnecessary and made no sense.
• They completely robbed us of a Chaos Twins dynamic. Had they handled Sylvie better and not forced her and Loki to smooch, the two of them could’ve had a really really complex and interesting sibling relationship. Loki could’ve stepped into Thor’s shoes and sort of used that new role to gain some self importance, and Sylvie could’ve finally had somebody to look out for her/teach her magic/be there for her. It would’ve been very aesthetically pleasing, the vibes would’ve been out of this world, it would’ve been way more profound than this bs, and frankly it would’ve been much more entertaining to watch.
• Loki’s relationship (read: obsession) with Sylvie completely overshadows all Loki’s other relationships in the show. Loki and Mobius were literally the focal point of the series in Ep 1-2, but after Sylvie showed up in Ep 3, they barely had any interactions with each other, and Mobius pretty much faded to the background entirely. Loki had the beginnings of a pretty interesting antagonistic relationship with Renslayer (with her wanting him pruned, then arguing with Mobius that he couldn’t be trusted), but after Sylvie showed up the dynamic shifted to focus on the history between her and Ravonna. Loki and B-15 started off very badly and openly disliked each other throughout Ep 1-2, and then in the end of Ep 2, Loki showed a little bit of concern for her when she was possessed, hinting that they might be inching toward a reconciliation- especially considering how obvious it was that Loki was gonna uncover the TVA’s sins eventually. There was so much potential for him to be the one to give her her memories back and convince her to change sides, but no, of course that honor went to Sylvie. In fact, after Sylvie showed up, Loki and B-15 never even spoke to each other again.
Various S*lki Fails
• If they were trying to convince us that this affection was mutual, they completely failed. There’s nothing I’ve seen that even hints at Sylvie feeling the same way about Loki that he does about her. At most, I’d say she has a slight endearment to him. She finds him likeable and she’s grudgingly fond of him, but she definitely isn’t in love with the guy. Maybe she thinks he’s cute and hopes that he gets out of this mess alright, but her mission obviously comes before him- whereas, it’s been confirmed multiple times that Loki cares about her above anything else. She doesn’t trust him, she looks at him like he’s an incompetent fool half the time, she shows little to no reaction during most of his confession moments, and she kissed him as a means to distract him so that she could get him out of her way. Look, all I’m saying is, when you get into a relationship where one of you is way more invested than the other, it never ends well.
• This goes without saying for a lot of us, but the selfcest is just straight up odd and cringey. If you’re cool with that sort of thing, fine! People can ship what they want! But don’t pretend it’s not at least a little bit uncomfortable. Yes, I know they’re not technically siblings so it’s not technically incest, and they’re also not technically the exact same person, but they’re similar enough that it makes things weird. And yes I know selfcest can’t happen in real life, so there’s no way to judge it morally, but neither can most of the other stuff that happens in these shows/movies (the Snap, Loki destroying jotunheim, superhero with powers being held accountable, mind control) and yet we still find ways to judge their morality, because they all mirror real-world events. (The snap= genocide; Loki destroying Jotunheim= bombing other countries; superhero accountability= weapons accountability; mind control= grooming and coercion). And lbr the closest real-world mirror to two versions of the same person (who may or may not share DNA, family, backgrounds, physical and emotion characteristics) being romantically involved with one another is incest. And you can be ok with that if you want- that’s your prerogative- but don’t get pissy just cause a lot of us are squicked out by it.
• The whole mirror metaphor (learning self love via each other) thing just fell completely flat. First of all, having Loki learn to love himself by looking at someone who mirrors him did not, in any way shape or form, require them to be romantically involved. But they were. Of course. Secondly, the creators have contradicted themselves so many times on whether Loki and Sylvie are the same or not, that it doesn’t even really register to the viewer that the mirroring thing was what they were going for. Finally, Loki and Sylvie are shown to have so little in common- and to have only the most bare minimum of similarities personality-wise- that it doesn’t even make sense that Loki would “learn to love himself through loving her”. Like? They’re nothing alike. So how would he make the connection that he himself is actually pretty cool, based on her alone? There’s virtually nothing in her that reflects him.
• I know the objective of the entire show was to convince us of how awesome and unique Sylvie is, but honestly her relationship with Loki just did the opposite. A hallmark of a Mary Sue is having her constantly upstage the male lead, and then having him instantly fall madly in love with her anyway. And that’s.. exactly what happened here. Everything they’re doing to try to force her character to be more stan-able is really just forcing her to look more like their self-insert OC. Which is exactly what she is. It would’ve been so much more satisfying if she didn’t have to try so hard to look cool, if they didn’t have to try so hard to make her backstory tear-inducing, if they didn’t have to turn our protagonist into a snivelling simp just to prove how incredible she supposedly is. Very much #GirlBoss energy and we all know how performative and cheap that is.
• The entire thing was too rushed, there was too little build-up, and it was nowhere near believable. As stated above, it’s ridiculously unlikely that Loki would canonically even be interested in Sylvie, and this show did nothing to explain why he was. He just suddenly was. There was nothing they showed us as viewers that would justify a guy as closed-off and preoccupied as Loki falling head-over-heels for a girl he just met. Their was no explanation, no big revelation, no reasoning, it just… kinda happened. And I’m also severely skeptical of any love story that has the characters go in this deep after only 3 45-minute episodes of exposition.
I’m sure there’s other stuff, so if anyone thinks of anything, let me know and I’ll be more than happy to add it. Tagging @janetsnakehole02 @raifenlf @natures-marvel and @brightredsunset800 for expressing interest. This is all your faults.
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