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amphibia-a-day · 4 months
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Day 915 of Amphibia Screenshots
Episode: The Dinner
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meisterdrucke · 6 months
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Le souper au bal by Edgar Degas (1878, Gemälde)
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george russell i will no longer be time travelling to the 1880s to whack you, you're (temporarily) safe
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Sprig and Anne looking very dapper in their formal outfits from The Dinner. Sasha's probably off-camera somewhere being angy at Sprig's very existence.
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the-black-zoroark · 4 months
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Before this dinner gets going, I want to thank our hacker friend for managing to put a filter up that makes my posts very much look like just inane chatter to Minskt and any of her people spying on it.
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House of the Dragon 1x08: It should have been the last scene.
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manonamora-if · 7 months
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I did a double whammy and made it (-ish) to the Single Choice Jam and Orifice Jam. It is kinda incomplete... there is one ending, but not all I had planned. This week has been weird... but still something to show for I guess?
Play The Dinner...
Eat... at your own risk...
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thekingofwinterblog · 2 years
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So just a bit of subtle, understated character development I haven't seen anyone comment on.
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Early in Amphibia, it's made a plot point that Hop Pop's cooking is absolutely atrocious. He had no talent for the art of preparing food.
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However, we also got to see that at least one of the reason his food was so utterly detestable(even for Amphibia standards), was that he feverishly clung to an old cookbook from his ancestors, that sucked.
Rather than ever try something new, he kept making recipes that were either inherently bad, or he just did not have the talent to make work.
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However, later during "The Dinner", this has changed so completely that his grandkids cant even remember anymore that Hop Pop used to be a shitty cook.
So what changed? Well, Hop Pop's entire character development through the series is about him balancing his roots, with trying new things, and so, after "Little Frogtown" served as a turning point, Hop Pop finally was able to let go of something that clearly didn't work(His old cookbook) and embrace new ways of cooking, and as it turned out, he eventually became a good preparer of food.
It's a nice, cute little bit of character development.
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24-hourpartypeople · 1 month
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THE DINNER: this is probably the kind of thing I wouldn't watch if it wasn't for Steve, given the awful reviews and the focus on american culture and politics which I'm not particularly interested in. I think the premise of it is interesting, as is the moral dilemma it proposes, but it's lost steam by the time it's got to the end and also I'm not sure everyone acting awful all of the time actually gives strenght to said moral dilemma because you just end up despising all of the characters.
Steve's acting is really good imo, but then I thought the whole cast was. Not sure about the accent, but I guess they were going for something really neutral as it's high-class people and as a non-native speaker I don't care much. The film works best when it's played as a dark comedy, and he's at the center of most of those scene. Actually, you could argue he gets the only laughs in the movie. But I also think playing the anxious, from idealistic to disillusioned misanthrope, breaking down scene by scene, does fit his style. He doesn't have the complete madman look and aura, but he can look mad enough and he clearly is intense as a person. I wish it was a better film because his performance is compelling. Probably the furthest he's ever been from Alan (well, alongside The Reckoning but you won't get my thoughts on it becuase there's no fucking way I rewatch it...or maybe I'll write my thoughts if it ever gets a BAFTA nom).
On a side note, towards the end when he's arguing with his wife Richard Gere totally does the "Trip acting routine", made me laugh out loud.
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heart-wit-strength · 1 year
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Do you think Marcy and Sasha kissed on the mouth after they found out it's pretty sus of both of them to bring hidden weapons at a family dinner
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battlekidx2 · 2 years
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Sasha is a very complicated character to say the least. She’s heavily flawed and due to these flaws she’s hostile to the idea of change but that’s why her arc works so well in the grand scheme of Amphibia. 
Season two in particular has so much ground to cover in her arc and I want to dig into how much each of these episodes managed to get across about her character.
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Sasha is fascinating in part because of her complex relationship to control and power and how it directly conflicts with her care for others. It’s made very clear at multiple points in the series that Sasha does genuinely care for other people.
She cares for Grime and won’t abandon him in Toadcatcher even when facing down Yunan, she cares for Anne and her decision to let go to prevent dragging Anne and the Plantars down with her in Reunion shows that, she cares about Percy and Braddock and shows conflict over losing them in Barrel’s Warhammer, she cares for Anne and Marcy in True Colors when she tries to hold off Andrias so that they could make it home. 
Sasha cares deeply about those close to her but it always comes into conflict with her fear/resistance to change and her flaws. In every situation/episode mentioned these two parts of her come into conflict in some way yet she views them as deeply intertwined.
The episodes focusing on Sasha are usually really good because of this complexity. Season 2 is where this conflict is put under a microscope.
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When we first see Sasha again in Toadcatcher she is grappling with the fallout of Reunion and Grime points out that she is training to avoid the reality that her friendship with Anne has irrevocably changed, things can never go back to the way they were. She’s not upset that she lost the fight but that she lost a friend.
Sasha is struggling with this and can’t accept the change or Anne’s independence from her. She wants to regain control over her friendships and force things back to the way they were. She hasn’t learned that those lines of thinking are faulty, instead she doubles down on them.
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She next appears in Barrel’s Warhammer where she and Grime go to get the rest of the toads onboard with their coup on Newtopia but to be the leaders of this coup they need to go on a suicide quest for Barrel’s Warhammer (it is literally stated in the show to be a suicide mission). Sasha is more determined than ever to get the warhammer and gain power once she hears that Anne and Marcy are working together to get home without her.
She sees that Percy and Braddock are afraid of this suicide mission and gives them a signal, an out, they can use to let her know they want to stop the mission and go home. She is being genuine in this moment. Her voice softens and she doesn’t use any of her usual tricks. But when the moment of truth comes and she sees them use the signal she puts the mission before them.
She puts her life and the lives of her comrades at risk to prove that she doesn’t need Anne and Marcy and continue her quest for power. In her own words “I am not gonna fail. Not while Anne and Marcy are getting by without me.” She is upset because she believes that Anne and Marcy are doing fine without her, that they don’t need her like she wanted to believe.
I think that this outlook on need is important. She wants them to need her. If they need her they can’t leave her and she’s afraid of this rejection, of this abandonment. And if they don’t need her then she can’t need them. Sasha can’t show this need. It’s vulnerable. It’s a weakness in her mind and she can’t show weakness. She has to be fine on her own.
She pushes her team too far in her mission to reassert control and loses Percy and Braddock because of this. She seems genuinely effected by it. She’s starting to realize her actions have consequences. That she can’t force her wants and desires onto other people and expect them not to push back or leave when it hurts them. Grime’s speech about some people not being willing to pay the necessary price for success rationalizes her actions and prevents her from fully coming to this realization. 
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The true cracks in her resolve to follow through with her plans don’t start showing until the Third Temple. She has a moment of doubt about betraying Anne and Marcy after all the faith they showed in her. She starts to question if power is what she really wants if it comes at the cost of her friendship with the two like it did with Percy and Braddock.
There’s the implication that Sasha isn’t faking as much as she would like to believe she is during this reunion and it continues on for the next handful of episodes leading up to True Colors.
Sasha can be a tricky character to pin down because it can be hard to tell when she is being genuine or not and even trickier to tell when she is lying to herself or truly believes what she is saying. Sasha is just as good, maybe even better, at lying to herself as she is at lying to others.
There's the idea that Sasha isn't as sure of herself as she would like others to believe. Doubt about her actions has started to creep in. The anger, spite, and fear that she has been running on for most of this season has started to dissolve.
Her spite towards Anne after Reunion was a major driving factor in her plans for the coup and after their heart to heart in the Third Temple that spite has dulled. She doesn't want to lose her friendship with Anne and Marcy. But she hasn't fully accepted that her actions have consequences and is trying to convince herself that she can have power and keep her friendships too. (This is most obvious in how she acts after her coup/betrayal. She puts her arms around Anne and Marcy and tells them they can help her rule and seems shocked and upset when Anne ends their friendship.)
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Interestingly enough Battle of the Bands sums up her complicated relationship with control and how it relates to her friendships really well. She wants Marcy and Anne to succeed and with her in control she thinks she could ensure that would happen. She thinks she knows what’s best for them and tries to force it onto them but Anne has learned to stand her ground and push back when needed.
When Anne won’t let her be in control she decides to take her own path where she has all the power over what happens. She gets into a situation where she has all the control only to learn how empty that is without those she cares about and that having someone who will do everything you say without question isn’t all it’s cracked up to be.
She later comes to learn through Toadie that sometimes supporting her friends in their own endeavors can be just as meaningful even if they don’t come out on top. We see her give up that control she so desperately clings to and support her friends.
This is the lesson that Sasha needs to learn. In a way this was showing her what she could have if she could let go of having total control, compromise, and accept change. It makes what happens in True Colors and the consequences of her actions hit her all the harder.
In her mission to force things back to the way they were and resist change she loses everything she could have gained. She gets what she thinks she wants at the cost of everything that actually matters and she is hit with the realization of how empty it is.
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She is finally forced to confront her own terrible choices and their consequences when Anne finally severs their friendship. To make matters worse she comes to the realization that her coup was unintentionally a good thing when it’s revealed what Andrias plans to do with the music box.
When she tries to warn Anne she is understandably ignored. Everything bad that happens in True Colors is in part her own fault. She is forced to confront the lies she keeps telling herself and finally realize the lasting consequences of her actions.
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I really liked how the culmination of her arc this season is her promising to have Anne’s back in the fight against Andrias and hold him off so Anne can get back home. She finally gives up control to someone else by deciding to have their back and tries to take responsibility for her actions and set things right. (it only took until it was almost too late)
And it’s this moment where we last see Sasha this season, trying to hold Andrias off so Anne, the Plantars, and Marcy can escape, that brings me to a major aspect of Sasha’s character that I haven’t talked about yet because it is best covered as a whole and that is how self-destructive Sasha is. Yes, this can be seen as Sasha’s protectiveness and deep care for her friends shining through, and that is part of what these actions represent, but when her actions are considered across the series there is a clear pattern that can (and is likely meant to) be read as passive suicidal tendencies.
Sasha doesn’t actively try to kill herself but she constantly puts herself in dangerous situations where she knows that she could end up dying. Or she ends up in situations where she accepts death. The biggest examples of this are Reunion, Barrel’s Warhammer, True Colors, Turning Point, and All In.
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In Reunion she notices that the tower is collapsing and that she is dragging Anne and the Plantars down and she makes the decision to let go of Anne’s hand. This would have ended in her falling to her death if Grime didn’t catch her and she wasn’t expecting Grime to do that when she let go. She had no way of knowing that would happen.
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In Barrel’s Warhammer she is told by Beatrix that going after Barrel’s warhammer is a suicide mission and she doesn’t hesitate to accept. She is told multiple times by Percy, Braddock, and even Grime that she should abort the mission or they will all die but that doesn’t phase her. She’s made the decision in her mind that she will only accept two outcomes: she succeeds in getting Barrel’s Warhammer or she dies trying.
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In True Colors Sasha decides to hold off King Andrias while Marcy and Anne go through the portal without her. She was willing to be left behind with a tyrant who just tried to kill Polly and Sprig, two children younger than her, that she knows won’t pull his punches and most likely wouldn’t hesitate to kill her (which is later confirmed in the worst way when he stabs Marcy). She once again tries to sacrifice her life for her friends.
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In Turning Point she claims that she will fight until her last breath to defend Wartwood and do the right thing for once. She faces off against Andrias’ robot by herself and accepts that she won’t make it when she’s restrained. She is once again saved by Grime (he really is the only reason she made it through the series) and kept alive by the citizens banding together to help them fight off the robots.
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In All In she dares Darcy to do her worst and finish her off after she is beaten on the floor. Darcy would have gone through with it too if it wasn’t for the fact they got distracted by Andrias, giving Sasha the time she needed to drag herself from the ground and make the decisive blow.
It’s these indications of passive suicidal tendencies coupled with the implications of a turbulent/dysfunctional family life, self-hatred and self-esteem issues, anger issues, struggles with showing emotions that can be seen as weak, fear of abandonment, etc. that make it obvious that Sasha struggles with mental health issues.
These struggles are inform a lot of her character and are integral to her arc of learning self-love and forgiveness in season 3. It also sets up the end point of her character in The Hardest Thing- becoming a child psychologist. She does this specifically to help kids work through their baggage so they don’t go down a destructive path like she did.
Sasha’s arc in season 2 is complex and layered. I stand by my opinion that Sasha should have had more episodes dedicated to her but the writers don’t waste a second of her screen time and manage to get all the conflict of her character across in the limited episodes they were given.
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amphibia-a-day · 11 months
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Day 714 of Amphibia Screenshots
Episode: The Dinner
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ctommy-chileno · 1 year
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Eryn and tommy are having the time of their life
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unatifosaungherese · 2 years
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Mattia and Charles in Monaco
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writesailingdreams · 1 year
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The Dinner
Now this is an interesting Marcy episode!
I really showcases how important harmony is for her. She wants everyone to get along. And that is important to her because (1) she seems very determined to avoid all conflict, even open communicate that might be messy and difficult* and (2) for her plan with Andrias to work out the way she wants, the girls have to be friends.
*interestingly, I feel this is something Anne learned pretty well with the Plantars -- sometimes to get through things, you have to be messy and communicate.
Plantar Addition: I legitimate don't think the Plantars were that bad in this episode. By that I mean, some of their behavior strikes me as how they'd act anyway? Like when Sprig roasts Sasha about being wrong because the drawing doesn't look like a weeping dirtsnake, or Hop Pop insisting Sasha sit in the shame corner for breaking the rules.
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two-hearts-beat · 1 year
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just watched the movie 'the dinner' 😳 think I'm gonna have to burn the dvd
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