#tbh idk i see people acting like their opinion is fact and i hate that

[kobiiioo]

a reason why i think hobie likes to mess around lihan

wARNING THAT

EVERYTHING IM YAPPING ABOUT IS ALL HEADCANON !! PLEASE DONT COME FOR ME 😞

Thinking about hanpunk, the main reason Hobie genuinely takes interest into knowing Lihan has nothing to do with things like “love at first sight” or with her being “different” and “mysterious” or with him just being sociable and whatsoever.

To be reaaally honest, lihan is such a ordinary girl (imo). She has pretty much of a blank personality, adapting different personalities depending the environment, just like a chameleon.

She’s naturally a very quiet and cautious person but her struggle to express herself does affect her in many ways;

She doesn’t engage, she doesn’t talk about her opinion, she prefers to listen and follow orders (unlike Hobie) and she never complains. She likes to observe things and simply do as what people say. You can say she’s very selfless in some way.

In simple words; she’s a wallflower (idk why it took me sm time to find this word in my head)

But then what makes Hobie “see” her ?

This might be kind of ridiculous/weird to say but

He likes to see her vulnerable.

Ik what you’re thinking like huh ?? 😨 bUT HEAR ME OUT !! BECAUSE I DON’T MEAN IT IN THE WEIRD WAY AT ALL ?!?! by vulnerable I mean as in when she breaks from her persona and showing emotions.

As I’ve alrd explained on my other posts, lihan is really like- she can seem very rude, reckless and apathetic imo bc she’s just extremely used to enduring her emotions and keeping a cold facade so she doesn’t get emotional in general but also during important situations because deep down she’s extremely like EXTREMELY fragile.

That doesn’t mean she’s a cry baby but she’s very empathetic if you get to know her more; she’s just an expert at pretending and has lot of self control (she’s sooo dishonest and untruthful to herself and others).

And it’s funny because the only person that’s smh able to break that facade is Hobie.

He finds it amusing that he’s the only one capable to do it and so easily too. It’s so interesting and surprising to see how easily she can break that facade simply by teasing her and getting on her nerves.

Talking to him or just interacting with him in general feels like she’s getting exposed or and since Hobie is the only person Lihan can’t beat, that pisses her off SO MUCH.

So yeah, basically,

It’s the fact that she’s not so different than what others think of her that made him even more attracted to her. And despite her seeming ordinary and being a wallflower, he sees something that not much people see immediately in her.

I feel like Hobie is extreeeemely attentive and perceptive. He’d basically know any secrets and gossip going around HQ because he just sees and hears EVERYTHING. And ofc my man is good at keeping secrets so he just stays quiet 🤭

And while others can be clueless about it and Lihan just hides well among a huge group of people, Hobie sees her. And he notices the things she never knew he noticed (this specific quote on slide 10);

He’d sometimes notice her trying to start a conversation with other spider people and trying to get along with them, helping new recruits to get used to the environment and giving them advices while still being very reserved and restrained,

listening to people carefully and giving them life advices, acts of service without anyone noticing she did for them and gifting people things she simply noticed or that reminded her of the person (the christmas comic ☹️)

Like tbh, he at first thought she was kinda like Miguel, as in her seeming emotionless and just hella cold and restricted almost acting like a robot or sum

But seeing her being more compassionate and simply being human and being so caring was what made him actually go like “damn.. that’s new ?”

Ykwim right ? No ? Alright 😔

I love them so much I HATE MYSELF FOR MAKING THEM GO THROUGH THIS 💔

#kobiverse #lihanlore #hanpunk #oc x canon #spidersona #spiderverse oc #oc

[ruckis--rookie]

Ask game for that emo ghost from that pac man show idk what he's called

He's emo

He's red and black and white

And once you reblogged a picture of him biting a finger

That man

The silly

DFHDSGSD BETRAYUS???? not who I was expecting from you but I will gladly ramble about him >:3

- Favorite thing about them

Honestly? The fact that he plays the bratty dictator role as well as he does. Usually those types of characters aren't popular but he makes it work. I don't even like bratty characters. You can ask anyone who knows me well enough, I notoriously bicker about bratty characters. And yet I adore him for it. He carries the whole show.

- Least favorite thing about them

The fact that he actively runs away and fears the front line fighting role. At least in the show. Its been shown multiple times in the show, even in the games, that he's hella powerful. I get that it's partially because of his role as a general so it would make sense. But what I wouldn't give to see more of him throwing hands w Pac instead of shrilling and running away flailing.

- Favorite Line

It's such a classic moment tbh

- brOTP

Hard to say given PMATGA is literally "Everyone hates Betrayus" the show, but oddly enough the brOTP that I like is literally him and his bro. Even if they don't get along I know that Betrayus values family to some degree. There's an episode where Pac goes to a bad end future and Betrayus had taken over Pac World, but instead of outright killing the brother he seems to hate so much he kind of just... keeps him around? It couldn't be to gloat, many many years had past and Stratos was very much brain dead and zombified. You could argue it was for plot (yeah obviously). You could argue it's to get information about the repository.... but as I had mentioned, enough time passed for Stratos to grow old and grey, and Betrayus seems to have given up the idea of finding the whereabouts of his old body. Heck, he was even thrilled about seeing Pac who had went missing, and he supposedly hates him. A part of me believes he does love his bro, and would never wish something like death on him.

- OTP

Don't really have one unless we're including crackships, in which case Zs'Skayr x Betrayus that @6clawdy6 and I made. Never really found a ship between canon characters I was fond of... Betrayus is very hard to love.

- nOTP

I might get some flack for this one because I know it's a popular one, but Specter x Betrayus. Could never get behind it. They very clearly hated each other in the show. Specter was literally banished to the depths of hell to shovel hot dragon shit for trying to double cross Betrayus (not even a joke).

- Random Headcanon

The gloves he wears are often described as prosthetics. That gave me an idea. I have a hc that he became a powerful fire ghost because the repository had a meltdown when he had his ghost stripped of his mortal body. The result was really crisped hands, severe aching pains, and untamed fire magic. Those clawed gloves act as a power represent and a pain reliever of sorts. Like hand braces.

-Unpopular opinion

I honestly don't know if there's an unpopular opinion regarding him given with how small the fandom is and how my involvement in it has been minimal, but if I had to say... I'm not a fan of the idea that he's a redeemable villain if he was shown love or sympathy. I'm under the impression that that man is not the same as before and he's far too gone to be truly saved. Little to no empathy in that ghost's black charred heart. At best he can tolerate people begrudgingly, but even that's being generous.

- Song I associate with them

"Mama" by MCR

If you've watched the show you know why. It fits his backstory so well.

- favorite picture of them

#ruckis borks #betrayus #pmatga #ask game #Mail found under the secret rock #Thank you for asking feder! :D

[taehyungfirst]

https://www.tumblr.com/cocamalfeta/747686083101409280/hi-i-was-wondering-whats-your-opinion-on-the-in?source=share

I was reading your asks and this made me pause. I am strictly a Tae solo but I like other members too. Earlier my go to content was bh cameras. Not smart ik, so I also assumed taekook was not very close because in that talk Jungkook looked awkward when he was giving that interview. It looked weird but I was like oh well. I was new to the fandom mind you. Took me a while but I started watching fan cams, old videos and it was hard to digest why such good friends before 2016/2017 I think became so awkward with each other. I did a little digging and I found bh camera shows and bombs don't even show them together and if they do it's brief or awkward. In fact earlier bv showed Tae to be a villian tbh. It boils my blood when I see bh treating Tae. This solo era literally confused me so much because I came to realise taekook were so much together and involved in each other activities and I thought they were just loosing their awkwardness. My theory was jihopekook were besties. I really don't understand why bh don't like to show taekook together on their cameras? And why taekook like different in bh cameras (aloof, awkward) than public cameras (very close and comfortable). What was the need to show both of them in that talk and with their shady subs? If they really wanted to show depression thing shouldn't Jimin be the ideal choice? It's in his nature to comfort people as well bh has assigned that role to him especially with maknae line. Vmin could have bonded because we have also seen changes in their friendship. I think it made more sense with all their soulmate bs. I just don't understand what bh made them show taekook (one of the most popular duo) awkward rather than capitalising them. Because of their ass hattery Tae gets dragged everytime he shows even an ounce of connection to Jungkook.

Sorry for the long rant. Just been seeing Tae getting dragged on x due to some nonsense and it renews my hate for bh.

Hi! I hope my reply made you pause in a positive way and not in a negative one.

I’m gonna start saying “And why taekook like different in bh cameras (aloof, awkward) than public cameras (very close and comfortable).” that I don’t agree with this part because to me they don’t act awkward on camera, idk if it’s because I’ve been in the fandom for years but I think they act very normally, but the subs, the cuts, the context could lead to misunderstandings.

I think that they just showed that talk to grasp an opportunity, because everyone noticed the lack of footage and bh used that occasion to say “look it’s because they weren’t close before” when it’s really not true, like before ITS, in an award ceremony Tae leaned on Jk because he was tired (I think everyone knows what clip I’m talking about). I used this as an example, but I could say million other things that happened in 2020 to show that the “awkward duo” is a narrative pushed by bh and cult freaks.

#ignore the people on twt they’re airheads and they’re jealous of taehyung they want his validation #ask #taekook #taehyung #jungkook

[beanghostprincess]

What do you think about ZoSan. I love them but I don´t ship them. (hidding from the many ZoSan fans)

okay so my opinion here might be a bit controversial but i'm so cray cray i'm so brave i'm such a warrior in this fandom i'm just gonna say it:

i don't really like the zosan...

(btw i don't wanna spread hate but i'm too lazy to censor the ship name and tbh idk if it also shows up in the fyp if it's said in the ask??? i talk a bit negatively about it, so don't read it if you ship them in case it might bother you <3)

i love their dynamic and i've been saying they need to fuck since, like, the moment they started fighting on screen. the sexual tension is immaculate, please, just fuck already god- half of their problems would be solved asap if zoro pinned sanji against a wall already and fucked him so hard he spoke french.

i like the fact that although they're always arguing, they understand and trust each other when it comes to serious stuff. like yeah, we fight but we are not letting this affect the crew as a whole. they're just two very proud bastards who hate admitting they don't actually dislike each other that much. their whole dynamic is great in canon!!!! love to see them. i enjoy them a lot. they need to fuck already (saying this tho does not mean i ship them to an extreme extent. i just know gays when i see them).

however!!! i think my dislike towards the ship comes mainly from the fandom. because personally i enjoy them in canon and i like the content some people make of them (god knows i reblog zosan more than it looks like), but... the 90% of the content and shippers just make them so out of character they stress me tf out. i see a zosan shipper and i never know if they're the good kind or not and i start shaking with fear. and i'm a person that believes in "ship whatever tf you want bc everyone has different tastes and i'm not that crazy to fight over fictional characters and what other people like", but, y'know, bad experiences from my past idk.

they're not even in my top 10 op ships, but they exist. they're there. they're fun. they're cool, i guess. i feel very indifferent about them and if i see a cute/hot zosan thing i'll reblog it. but i don't seek content of them, y'know (unless i'm in a very sanji nsfw mood and the horniness takes over my original preferences. sometimes i just want sanji to be topped, i apologize).

but yeah, i'm very "meh" about them and the thing that makes me not really like them is the fandom, mostly. because there are some zosan shippers out there that just....................... they remind me of kiribaku shippers saying their ship is queerbait when it's very obviously NOT queerbait and claiming them to be canon when they're obviously not canon and etcetcetc. that, and the fact that a lot of people write/draw them extremely out of character. personally, for me soft zosan (i love soft zosan bc i'm a softie) could only work after a long-ass development and they'd still act like the idiots they are. that being said, nsfw zosan works every time in every universe bc, again, the sexual tension is tangible, man. and somehow people manage to do it out of character????? lmao.

people are SO obsessed with this ship bc it's easy to sexualize and easy to write because "haha boys fucking haha fighting haha" which is uhhhhhh not my thing, really. like i do love nsfw zosan but it also has to be written extremely in character and- idk i think that it's just on me.

basically, i'm indifferent about them and when i see people so so so hyped i just don't really get it. and then there's people that actively believe that they're queerbaiting and that instantly makes me angry, which translates into not liking the ship for a while. and when i go back to being indifferent and liking some stuff of them, i just don't really care much? and then i see someone writing them ooc and i dislike them again and- that over and over and over again.

and okay this whole thing seems stupid but i've had past experiences in fandoms and tbh saying that you don't like THE popular ship is like yelling at the shippers to attack you.

but, yeah, to summarize: i'm indifferent about them. i like them in very specific situations and content. most of the shippers and ooc content make me mad (which is like, most of them). but!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! the thing is: when zosan is done well, zosan is great. but when it's done out of character??? i can't fucking stand it.

i'm kind of contradicting what i said about not liking them because i do like them?? i just don't like them THAT much or to that extent and it has to be a very specific flavor?? and the shippers and content make me so mad sometimes i just stop reading fics or looking for content idk. i guess what i'm trying to say is that:

-> canon zosan cool

-> fanon zosan makes me dislike them

-> i don't really care and since this fandom is literally FULL of that ship i just have to live with it idk they're fine ig

#i wrote this super quickly but yeah #i just don't really like them much #they're fine #and some people are very annoying and have very strong opinions about them and i just don't care #but sometimes i read ooc stuff and it makes me MAD #but that's life ig #i do think they need to fuck tho

[kurjakani]

Random intials, just go with whoever comes to mind first :)

P. L.

Ok so. Ik you prolly meant seperately as two characters. But thast Peter Lukas thats Plukas thats my Actual Husband thats. Hehheh hoo boy. So im doing Plukas TEEHEE

send me a character and i’ll list:

favorite thing about them: old salt who is themed around isolation and loneliness? Idk do I have to even explain it further (aside from canonical facts- I really really love playing with the ideas of him fooling himself about his absolute desire for loneliness. This is me mirroring: due to various reasons I isolated myself for years, and I had truly convinced myself I hated everyones company, and wanted to live as far away as I could- however this was a coping mechanism. And Plukas does have a lot to cope with, let's be real. He seems 2 have like. a startling amount of apathy abt a lot of things, which i find at points relatable, alluring and concerning) (additionally w how much he seems 2 talk endlessly when he actually gets the chance. Id imagine he would be way more to the point if he truly wanted 2 get tf out of there asap.) (I also do find his voice acting incredibly soothing. Could listen to him for ages.)

least favorite thing about them: I can't even comprihend such a thing. The fact that he's not in my arms rn?

favorite line: Ok i could listen 2 him for days but i think this one got me in some way: "I had no time for books or television, or any of the escapes and artificial friendships of fiction. No, I was myself, and that was enough. I would spend my days exploring the wide grounds and forests of our estate, finding the hidden corners I thought that none would have found before me –" He comes off almost as spiteful towards the idea of company of others. So insistant of his intentions.

brOTP: Salesa :3 Also Martin but like in a toxic yuri way.

OTP: prolly also Salesa?? mayhaps???

nOTP: shrugs i haven't seen a lot of ships for him in general tbh!

random headcanon: I tend 2 think he is rather immature. Socially and emotionally. We do kinda see that in the ep the last, his little tantrum when things don't go his way- but imagine what a childhood of isolation from all people and a cold shoulder from your parents does to you?? I dont have 2 imagine im that person girl its me im the problem its me. I imagine he's surprisingly easy to upset. You prolly wont notice it bc instead of bursting w anger he'll sulk, which is also not great. bottled up feelings etc.

unpopular opinion: idk what ppl think abt him eerally SOBS

song i associate with them:

Martin: (echoing) His only wish was to die alone. Also in general one of my favourite songs in all of existance so!!!

favorite picture of them: no offical peter jpegs but i always think of the every peter lukas line video on youtube it makes me so happy

#kanitalk #ask #anon #DEEP BREATH TYSM #SORRY #c:plukas #m:mag #sorry plukas brainrot real

[lollytea]

Okay highly specific and idk if you even have any thoughts on it BUT ☕ on the Boscha/Amity dynamic in FTF? I literally had no significant thoughts on Boscha til this ep. Now I'm kinda into whatever toxic thing she's got going on with Amity. Heathcliffian in nature, almost. But what's your two cents, if you have em to spare?

I've never really had any strong opinions on Boscha. Like I know a ton of people absolutely loathe her but I can't even grant her those feelings. I can never really drum up too much animosity towards teen characters. She's just a kid. Kids suck sometimes. Sometimes they grow up and they learn and they become better people and sometimes they just get worse. I'm not gonna make any assumptions about which category Boscha will fall into because she's still too young to be certain.

I think it's kinda funny how the writers clearly gave her a deep underlying complex but never bothered to elaborate on it. Like the opening of WILW where she's like "You can be hated. So long as you are feared." Girl??? Can we like...get an update on this kid's home life? Why is this her mindset? Where is this coming from? Where are her moms??

During the time she and Amity were friends, the latter was also deeply depressed and had a horrible home life. So I wouldn't be surprised if she and Boscha had one of those sapphic toxic co-dependent teenage bonds. (We've all had them.) Like there's no escape to this life. Things won't get better. But at least they can stew in their own cynicism together. They help each other gain some semblance of control over their own lives by clawing their way up the Hexside hierarchy, with Amity being top student and Boscha being grudgby captain. Just a pair of fucked up and lonely girls just trying to pretend they're not fucked up and lonely.

I feel like, at some point, Amity even found solace in Boscha's company. When she was younger and more immature and was led to believe that actual positive mutually uplifting friendships were only for kids (bye Willow) so she desperately leans into what she has. What they had with each other may have been their only real connection. Early episodes definitely give the impression that their friendships with the likes of Skara and co. were rather superficial, with Boscha acting rather dismissively towards anyone who wasn't Amity. I'm sure they saw all the vulnerability and ugliness in each other that nobody else saw. I'm sure Boscha got unhealthily attached because Amity was really all she had and she didn't have any experience with an actual constructive relationship with anyone her own age to understand that she and Amity were bad for each other.

But Amity was clearly worn down. This relationship was exhausting. It leeched away at her. She was complacent in all the bullying because she didn't see the point in even trying to discourage it, other than half-hearted chiding every now and again. In her own words, there was no reasoning with Boscha.

And then Amity opened her eyes and realized that this fucking sucked. You see her gradually detaching herself from Boscha throughout season 1 which results in her completely cutting ties in WILW, much to Boscha's disgust.

Tbh I feel like Boscha's gotten pretty funny since then, though she's been barely present. I enjoyed her in ASIAS cuz she was just so pathetic. Literally just third wheeling lumity, neither of them give two shits about her existence but she just refuses to exit the scene. We love girlosers.

But yeah I really did dig her in FTF. It's definitely the most insight we've gotten into her character since her debut. I didn't exactly need Boscha character development to live cuz like. I don't care about her. But I guess if they're gonna include her at all, at least they didn't keep her stagnant.

She's clearly traumatized by the fact that her team essentially "died" (as far as she knows) protecting her and she's never experienced such a heavy emotion before. She doesn't know how to handle it. She pushes it down. She lashes out. And Kikimora has just made her a million times worse. No wonder she begged for Amity to come back. She's unstable and scared and wants to cling to some fantasy that this will all be okay. And she feels like if she just has her friend back, that can be a possibility.

I like how Amity dealt with her in this episode, as a contrast to how Willow did. Willow was perfectly within her right to be furious with Boscha, considering she's nothing but her former bully who's given her so many emotional scars. But Amity approached her with an appeal rather than a fight. Because Boscha is Amity's former friend. She knows things about her that Willow doesn't. And no matter how awful their relationship has gotten, she doesn't want to see her former friend as the villain of this story.

"There's no reasoning with Boscha." She said two season ago. And then she DID!!! It really speaks volumes about how much Amity has developed from an emotionally exhausted enabler to a proactive outspoken girl who's willing to give everyone a shot to prove themselves, the way Luz did for her.

Anyway I think Boscha has completely burned all her bridges and has no hope of rekindle her old friendship. That's a consequence she'll have to live with for the way she's behaved. Plus, she and Amity just....don't mix well anymore. Some people are destined to come into your life for a time and keep you standing upright but they're not lifelong friends. I could see them as like...acquaintances maybe? Maybe theyll grow up and have kids and be on the PTA together. Maybe. But I can't see them as ever being true friends again.

Some people say that Boscha's actions at the end of FTF was a "rushed redemption arc" though I disagree. It wasn't a redemption at all. It was simply an acknowledgement that Boscha is not the devil incarnate. She's a kid. All she wants is to have a normal life and play Flyer Derby. So she's taking the necessary actions to get that future for herself. It opens up the possibility that Boscha could be a good person. Someday. She's not there yet. But someday. Maybe.

#actually word vomiting with these

[w1llb7ers]

MIKE WHEELER IK WHAT YOU ARE /HJ

People hate on Mike too much in my opinion, I'll always be a Mike defender. It's not just because I see him as a realistic teenager, but I see myself in him. He's the first character I've related to in a long time. The way he acts is how I used to act when I was struggling with personal issues (internalized hom*phobia).

Here's some examples of how I acted:

I lashed out a lot and closed myself off emotionally. I had bad anger issues at the time and they were so bad that people told me “Who are you? I don't recognize you anymore.” that sort of smacked me in the face and made me think about how I was behaving.

I pushed the person of interest (my ex best friend) away and tried to ghost them completely. I ended up being successful and now we hardly ever talk. We knew each other for over a decade and all it took for me to ignore them was the possibility of feelings budding in my chest.

I would literally go insane in my bedroom at night after a day at school because I hated the thoughts that ran through my head when they were around me.

I would stare at their lips randomly and tell myself: “You're just kiss deprived. Your boyfriend broke up with you a week ago.” I loved lying to myself.

Then, I left them on read for the last time and we stopped talking for 3 years. Never called. Never texted. And never met up. We used to hang out almost every weekend. The feelings got SO BAD that I actually dreaded them sleeping over. In fact, I lied to them saying “Sorry, I won't be home this weekend.” just because of this.

Therefore, when someone says “He'S sTrAiGhT NoT gAy!!!1!!” I can't help but laugh because 1) I know what it looks like to hate yourself for what you like. 2) If he isn't struggling with IH then he's just an ass and I can't be satisfied with that idea. His character is so much more complex than people give him credit for. If my assumptions are correct, the dufflebags didn't “ruin” his character. They made him go through things internally that would impact how he behaves. He's not just some guy that doesn't give a shit about Will anymore. He DOES give a shit. He is smart, not stupid. He may be clueless but he's got an idea of what is going on. He knew Will was crying (in my opinion), but he didn't ignore him. He didn't want to treat him like a “baby” like Will states in S2. He doesn't like it when people treat him like he's fragile. Even if he is at that very moment. Plus, there were other people around (ie Jonathan and Argyle). They weren't alone.

I know this isn't credible because I'm just some teen girl on the internet, but I know what my experience was like (having feelings for someone you don't want to have feelings for because they're not the opposite gender). And I see it in Mike. His actions, his everything. It's so CLEAR. Yet no one looks far enough into it to see it.

Sorry for the rant I just had to get it off my chest. Ik this isn't the cleanest/ most organized post. However, I am just speaking my mind here lmao no one has to agree with me. This was like a vent a bit tbh idk where it all came from. Thank you for listening!! :)

#mike wheeler apologist #mike wheeler i know what you are #he is just struggling with himself and he'll be back to his old self soon i think #i miss him trust me but sometimes things happen that change our character and how we treat others #mike wheeler #byler tumblr #byler

[kyanitegem]

hiiiii bestie today I offer you this: 7, 8, 9, 10, 16, and 24 about homestuck

7 what character did you begin to hate not because of canon but because how how the fandom acts about them?

This is actually a bit of a tough one because the characters i detested were simultaneously because of the actions in the comic and then also from how the fandom babygirlified them

Gamzee did nothing wrong my ass

Tired of that fucking clown

Eridan didnt do himself any favours with killing Kanaya either tbh. Or his whole personality really. I just also remember really not liking how the fandom was all uwu he’s a precious baby who did nothing wrong ever. Like he’s an ass. Own up to the fact he was genocidal with his want to kill all landdwellers and murdered feferi and kanaya and destroyed the matriorb

8 common fandom opinion that everyone is wrong about

Immmmm not sure i can answer that since the fandom I remember is at its hayday in 2012. Im not even sure what the more recent fandom opinions are that are incorrect :tm: and its been so long since i saw the incorrect onions from 2012 i cannot actually remember them

9 Worst part of canon

The trickster arc in about… act 6? Truthfully im not as much of a fan of the ark with Jane Roxy Dirk and Jake in general and the trickster stuff REALLY didnt do them any favours. This was also the part of the comic that had the whole feeling caucasian panel in it… oh and then there was all the stuff with Caliborn…

10 Worst part of fanon

For me personally? The tentadick headcanon. Im sorry but i feel the need to remind that the trolls are teenagers like the kids are and to me personally it just feels weird. Yes you’re headcanoning this for the species but idk something about it has always made me uncomfortable.

16 - you can't understand why so many people like this thing (characterization, trope, headcanon, etc)

See above but also hey what was up with the whole march eridan thing??? Like ive always wondered where it came from and why so many people were obsessed

24 - topic that brings up the most rancid discourse

The Vriscourse ::::)

#kris talks #ask games #hi bestie omg hiiiii

[zeglythofficial]

is no one else catching r just admitted that her song (let me try) directly references something j told her in passing when they first started dating. mind you, r put this song out in may of 2021 and since r wrote and produced this song i think she must've worked on this for at least a few weeks/months before release. they were definitely seeing each other romantically way before they let on publicly. my guess is that they started seeing each other in a romantic way in very early 2021 and they only materialized it as a proper relationship till October which is kinda weird because why would r be basically his whole ass gf without the label of gf?

Also heard from some OG R stans some relationshiplore (tbh I only started to proper follow r till March of 2023 so idk if there's any truth to this) but the collective guess is that allegedly r was kinda in a toxic situationship with some one else in mid-late 2020 and that j was allegedly also nursing a bad break up and that's what they made them closer. as i said idk if this 100% true but I can't only think of how easy is for men to lure young and vulnerable women into toxic spaces. i can only hope that r grows up to realize how little protection she had in her first years in the industry and one day openly talk about it, like, she was at mercy of not-so good people (ans*l tainting her first ever role, a potential groomer bf, gal gad*t zionist ass ruining snow white, loser incels harassing her for few harmless opinions) I want the world to realize how nasty they were to a young inexperienced actress. sorry for my rant! I hate seeing young women going through the same misogynistic/violent hardships time after time. when will we learn to REALLY protect women?

Wow - great catch! I didn’t even realize the thing about the song. I had strong suspicions they dated way before Oct 2021 and she’s basically admitting it accidentally (same way she accidentally exposed his real age). They both knew it was wrong that’s why they hide their relationship at first. She’s been his girlfriend for a while.

I feel bad for R if she was in a toxic relationship previously. She’s been through a lot at her age. Booking WSS, graduating high school, pandemic, toxic bf, backlash from Snow White, horrific costars, etc etc - no wonder why J was able to act as her savior. She went from a bad relationship to a predatory one.

I agree, it’s soooo easy for men to lure young women especially if she’s going through something toxic. J knew what he was doing! He’s not innocent at all.

Rant away because you’re speaking nothing but truth and facts!

Being a young, inexperienced woman in Hollywood is basically a signal for predators to swarm on them. So disgusting.

#my answers #about r + j

[liesmyth]

thinking about what would happen if just Ianthe and Alecto were stuck in a spaceship together. no idea what Alecto would think ofc but I feel like she’d see Ianthe as like. emblematic of how John’s use of power has become so much Worse over the years. she seems like a corrupted image of what the Nine Houses were supposed to be like, since she uses necromancy to seek power, she and her cavalier were full of hatred toward each other, she seems like she doesn’t care about what happens to the “shepherd planets” and refugees, etc. but at the same time she’s really really young and overwhelmed and wants to protect her sister and Harrow, and she seems conflicted in some ways... I think they should gossip about Harrow and do each other’s hair, but in a way that’s mutually unnerving and frustrating and nasty. they’ve also both had to act as John’s “protector,” and Ianthe is just Beginning to hate that role. so, some life experiences in common

Like you said, Ianthe is really young. I don't think she's especially worse than anyone in her circumstances would be, not to the point that the 4.5B years old soul of the earth would single her out as anything remarkable. Like, she's Seen Some Shit, before the apocalypse she was inflicting a dozen natural disaster a months. IDK, I just don't know if we can be certain about anything with Alecto, beyond the fact that she feels betrayed by John and that she wanted to know where "he put the people" and she thought the collective death of humanity was bad. But there's a lot of room for interpretations here

I just absolutely have no idea what Alecto would do and think and feel about complex moral topics. I can see her trying to make overtures of friendships to random humans and listen to Ianthe talk about Harrow a lot more easily than I can see her expressing opinions with any clarity about the Status of Humanity — I can't wait to find out but for now she's so alien to me! They WOULD frustrate each other though, and be creepy, of this I have no doubts. And shittalk John, as a treat <3

[tbh I just... don't think Ianthe is especially bad, or emblematic of the ad in the Universe? Factually, pre NtN, she mostly used necromancy to be a nerd. And yes to seek power but I truly don't see how it's noteworthy. She didn't like Babs, but I don't think she was full of hatred. While I don't think she especially cares about the shepherded planets, literally nobody in the Houses does, and Ianthe 1) was putting on such a massive Act in NtN through Nona's very confused POV that I think we've missed 70% of what's actually going with her and what she actually thought; and 2) she's shown to care about human life more than many other people in the series. Also she's John's stressed PA, definitely not a protector. She's trying to Run Things, not to babysit God. So I really don't think anything about her would make Alecto Take Notice beyond the fact that she hangs out with John and tried to steal Harrow]

#ianthe is ABSOLUTELY conflicted. she cries every night.... #anonymous #ask #my controversial john opinion is that actually a 6 months bender when you're millennia old is just... not that long? #& don't think he's half as easily manipulated as Ianthe hopes and also nowhere as out of it as we've extrapolated from those few sentences #so I don't really think he needs protection. ianthe maybe tells herself he does to feel more important tbh

[boom-fanfic-a-latta]

ok something I will warn about revelation though (since it is the most mediocre episode in the season as far as I've watched. Again, this season's full of banger episodes, this is just like the one exception and I'm sad it's like I think important-):

Istg why didn't they properly address the fact that Alya knows that Marinette is Ladybug and Lila claimed to be best friends with Ladybug. Like. Alya you know that Marinette/actually Ladybug despises Lila. You know that. You know her. YOU'RE her best friend. Like i know as a teenager myself we aren't always the sharpest tools in the shed but I feel like this is a bit too obvious for her to not even acknowledge. Or for Marinette to not even bring up. Like why isn't Mari pointing that out either.

Also I just wish she'd like. Just tell people about how Lila literally threatened her. Like just tell Alya about that come on girl tell her what Lila said-

(Ok with the latter one I'm guessing since Marinette is like. Very anxious and stuff she might just be too paranoid about the possibility of Alya thinking that SHE'S lying about it [even if that's probably not what would happen I know from experience that paranoia doesn't exactly stem from intelligence and rationale-] to say anything about it. Like especially back in Season 3 where Alya didn't yet know that she's Ladybug. and by the time Season 4 Gang of Secrets happens Lila hasn't really been doing much so she probably wasn't at the forefront of Mari's mind. And then going into Season 5 it's probably just been so long that she'd think Alya would doubt her 'cus "if it happened that long ago then why didn't you tell me sooner?/why are you only telling me this now?" And- again I don't think Alya would assume she's a lying bxtch or anything, she'd probably assume it was an akuma pretending to be Lila first or that Lila had already been akumatized or something, but. Yeah, again, paranoia and stuff-)

Though thinking back on it I kinda like how Hoaxer as an akuma is like. basically the show version of the dumb way some salt fics act like Lila could just say literally anything and no matter how stupid people would believe it without question. So that's literally what Hoaxer's power is. Including that one thing I saw pop up a few times in fanfics where she lies about Marinette being Hawk Moth/Shadow Moth/Monarch. Like she literally does that exact lie and the only reason people believe it is because her powers are literally mind control stuff. So yeah that was clever I liked that-

(Tbh a lot of stuff about that episode felt like it was basically just. Looking at salt fics and saying "this is what would actually happen in the show with these scenarios" and as someone who generally dislikes salt fics that's kinda. Idk, cathartic? I'm just sad at the lack of Alya realizing Lila is a piece of shxt who threatened her best friend but then again I feel like if that happened then Alya probably would've been the one to get akumatized and that would've been a game over I think considering she knows who Ladybug is XD would be cool if they did like a cat blanc or ephemeral kind of episode on that concept though, maybe give Marinette a little more trauma making her think that if she ever exposes Lila then that'll lead to the end of the world and she'll just have to live thinking this and-

I like subjecting my blorbos to the horrors I'm sorry-)

Tbh I think a lot of my opinions on the episode may just be tainted by the fact that seeing lying in fiction upsets me when I don't know for sure the liar is gonna be outed by the end. Which isn't a fault with the episode it's just a personal thing. So idk if I'm judging the episode right or not it may be better than I had thought especially looking back on it like this and just thinking about the aspects I did like-

though again I also just. Hate like everything they've done with Chloe and that includes this episode and Lila's campaign in it-

the stuff that happened toward the end of the episode with Marinette resigning as class rep seemingly with the idea that Lila having that position will lead to her exposing herself (?) has me hooked tho-

also just. All the stuff with Nathalie-

man you have a lot of thoughts

[boiled-dennis]

i really liked the tags you added to my trash twins analysis! esp because you are right that not a lot of ppl in this community actually have or know much about npd, it is always super interesting to see your input on how dennis and his behavior point towards him havin npd/aspd. its refreshing seeing someone give insight on that that isnt just 'haha hes secretly a serial killer with no feelings so hes a psychopath!!!1!!' lmaooo

ahh thanks i thought your post itself was great, i really enjoy reading what people have to say about the way dee and dennis were raised , there's a lot of interesting stuff to pick up on and interpret. also so much more that could be said about dennis and personality disorders (as well as the rest of the gang), but with my current level of energy it's easiest to build off other people's observations tbh. for some reason i just started typing a shit ton of words here and i don't know why it happened, but-

it's kinda neat to me how that one common reaction that viewers have to dennis is in response to the persona we see he wants people to perceive him as (in his own desperate protective way), but we Also get to see the vulnerable, scared side of him and the way he puts on this act—and often, fans either ignore this side, or they have their sanist view of it and think it's even more evidence of him being a "psychopath". i know a lot of people do watch it only in a surface-level way, which i'm not going to criticise, but there's way more nuance to these characters than i guess a lot of people care to see. so if they are going to discuss it, i wish they'd be more thoughtful..

dennis is clearly a destructive, harmful person, but his actions don't mean he's "evil" or that he can't be a whole person with his own problems and feelings. that's one part of the show and his character that i really appreciate; i know there's been discussions in the past about this, but it's interesting how the show isnt a continuation of the all-too repeated idea that abusive people are one-dimensionally bad, purely evil, and not even people but more like. wickedness incarnate? like an entity that exists only to hurt & hate people. and there's the opinion that abusive characters shouldn't be portrayed as normal humans because that itself would somehow teach people to excuse their actions or think "but they still have some good in them", but that's more like. people's own responsibility to understand not to do. of course the gang can be cruel in cartoonish, heightened ways, but i feel with the understood rules of their world, it's not the exact same as real life actions (also the fact that they are indeed fictional characters). it's just important to have an understanding that being abusive is an active choice, and not something predestined because of personality disorders or whatever other qualities one might have!

to revisit the thing about dennis in reality vs how fans often view him- we see hints or direct portrayals of his true emotional state all throughout the show, but people insist on saying he's "emotionless"/has no feelings, even aside from his constant emotional outbursts. it's consistent with how real-life people with several cluster B personality disorders are invalidated (often seen as having contradictory symptoms/observable behaviour, and therefore faking emotions in order to be manipulative), and it's oddly kinda comforting because for me it just confirms my specific view of dennis. i just can't get over how many people who really like dennis and the show are fundamentally misunderstanding his character and insist on viewing him in a way that not only he himself is deeply hurt by (i know he isn't real btw), but also directly contradicts what we've always been shown about his real feelings, just because it fits the mould of the crazy psychopath that they want him to be. idk, sometimes it feels like people deliberately ignore some characters' complexities because they don't want their worldview to change so that they start viewing real people as equally complex and more than a stereotype.

#i saw the ask earlier and was gonna reply but people were playing a muppet record and i got distracteD #and then this took forever to type and think about #. have a Bit of an aversion to commenting on/reblogging stuff with my own thoughts but i want to be more involved in community stuff #i'm at the point where i typed the amount of words where nothing makes sense to me anymore and i question if my sentences are okay #npd dennis #aspd dennis #iasip meta #asks

[wolfstrong]

ngl id want to hear all your answers to the choose violence ask game about buffy

hehehe why not... i couldnt answer all of these cuz idk I'm not like in in the buffy fandom but here

the character everyone gets wrong everyone already knows what I'm gonna say... say it with me now yall... XANDER!!!!!!!! also I feel like a lot of people don't have the soul connection I have with tara. not that they don't get her I just know they don't get her like id do okay.

a compelling argument for why your fave would never top or bottom sorry I don't care about this kinda stuff

screenshot or description of the worst take you've seen on tumblr yeah anyway I'm not gonna put the image here cuz it will burn your eyes but the photoshopped picture of spike and angel duo sucking Rileys dick like girl. i don't even know if that's a take but it is to me. the take is that spike and angel would suck riley off. worst take ever and worst image ever

what was the last straw that made you finally block that annoying person? I don't have anyone from the buffy fandom blocked.... smile.

worst discord server and why someone invite me to a bad discord server id love to join and be tortured. is there even any buffy discord servers? please let me know

which ship fans are the most annoying? obviously spuffy. very very obviously. spuffy fans are some of the most annoying ship fans of any ship

what character did you begin to hate not because of canon but because how how the fandom acts about them? answered

common fandom opinion that everyone is wrong about there are a couple episodes that are regarded as some of the worst buffy ever that are actually some of my favs... "I robot you jane" "go fish" "bad eggs" all good and "beer bad" IS NOT THE WORST EPISODE. in fact I actually kind of liked it so there. xander/willow is a good ship you are just not ready for that conversation. Angel isn't THAT bad okay.

worst part of canon what isn't the worst part of canon. actually I'm only on season 5 so I think I have yet to get to the WORST PART. btvs has so many fucking issues

worst part of fanon it bothers me that there is like NO FANART for the show and pretty much 50% of btvs content is about spuffy naked sex bat sex crazy naked tits and ass penis sex

number of fandom-related words you've filtered zero!

the unpopular character that you actually like and why more people should like them answered

worst blorboficiation answered

that one thing you see in fics all the time I don't read enough btvs fic

that one thing you see in fanart all the time CLOTHES CLINGING TIGHTLY TO BUFFYS BOOBS AND ASS AS IF THE FABRIC WAS FUCKING LIQUID!!!!!! STOP DOING THAT TO HER.

you can't understand why so many people like this thing (characterization, trope, headcanon, etc)

there should be more of this type of fic/art on god we need more core scooby appreciation like please please more fanart of just files buffy xander and willow hanging out and smiling and being silly. i never have seen like any fanart of xander ever

it's absolutely criminal that the fandom has been sleeping on... RAT AMY

you're mad/ashamed/horrified you actually kind of like... .... i already kinda said it earlier but erm.. season 3 willow/xander cheating arc when they kept making out. sorry. oh also kinda horrified I like spuffy but like that's normal everyone likes that.

part of canon you found tedious or boring tbh most the time I think the season plot shit is boring. i much prefer monster of the weak stuff. the initiative stuff was SO FUCKING boring most the time and any scene with Riley I literally would fall asleep

part of canon you think is overhyped I mean I haven't FINISHED season 5 yet but I'm getting to the end and I feel like I see lots of hype for this season arc but so far the way its wrapping up is kind of awful. erm

your favorite part of canon that everyone else ignores SCOOBIES FRIENDSHIP. SCOOBIES EVERYTHING. CHILLING AMD BEING BEST FRIENDS AND LOVE BETWEEN FRIENDS . AND WATCHING TV AND BRADING EACH OTHERS HAIR

ship you've unwillingly come around to I really didnt wanna like spuffy but I do. i don't want to like spander but I saw yaoi for a second idk maybe something is there. .. maybe.. xander and anya? though its more just like I don't hate anya anymore. i still kinda hate them as a couple.

topic that brings up the most rancid discourse defs spangle vs spuffy and also whether or not Xander is good.

common fandom complaint that you're sick of hearing SHUT UP ABOUT JOSS WHEDON BEING PROBLEMATIC IM SORRY TO BE THAT BITCH I DONT CARE. SORRY . BUT I DONT. its like literally all anyone has to say

[ariesbilly]

I'm not going to be teying defend Jason here. Some of his actions were terrible. The fact he felt the need to go all vigilante and round the town in like that was insane (like fucking Gaston over here) and that scene where he's intimidating Nancy is pretty godamn sketch. His friend threatens to break Erica's arms and that was really fucked (I did find an old ask of yours where an anon said that Jason said he though Lucas "was one of the good ones" but I can't find that anywhere, but obviously pulling a gun on him in the first place was very bad)

That said, as someone with a lot of religious trauma, I really understand his fear regarding the situation. Like... he saw that shit happen with Patric and with what he believes about the world, of course he would think it's some kind of demon shit. Honestly, if I was even just , like, medium religious and I saw that shit, I would probably become a bit of a nut too.

Now I didn't get a lot of talk about dnd but I did get a lot of fear mongering about ouija boards. I just thought that... idk, I'd bring it up. I see a lot of people talking about how people are shitting on Billy without addressing his abuse, but then those same people never talk about how Jason is clearly in so much emotional distress which is propagated by a system that people unfortunately just fall into. He's harming other people, yes, but it's clear he's terrified of just everything constantly, because the kind of religious circle he was probably indoctrinated into really drill that into you and then he's experiencing these gruesome murders. Who wouldn't become hysterical?

I try to be understanding of Billy even when it's hard to watch him get violent like that, but I see little grace for Jason who I relate to to an extent (as someone who was raised in a cult, funnily enough), and then the people who wholeheartedly support and defend Billy will act like Jason didn't have any understandable motivations. They'll literally make fun of people for even bringing up that his girlfriend died so it makes sense he'd be emotional.

I'm sure you'll try to dunk on me about this too, but I think that both Jason and Billy or morally gray and are both products of their environments and they're both sad. So... do you have any thoughts on that?

I mean I haven’t watched season 4 so any thoughts I have on Jason come from what I’ve seen others say, so truthfully I cannot give a firm opinion on him because I just don’t have the full context.

But I also have an interest in religious cults…(watch a lot of documentaries and YouTube video essays lmao) so I do often think about those aspects coming into play with Jason and the brainwashing that goes on. I get mad at a lot of religious discourse in tumblr for these same reasons cuz I don’t think people ever consider that these people actually believe what they’re doing is for the greater good/trying to help people get into heaven etc etc but that’s a whole other topic we don’t need to get into right now

So I can totally understand how in Jason’s mind he thinks he’s being a hero (which most good villain ideologies operate this way tbh. Or at least should). Like I don’t hate Jason. I’ve come around to him to the point where I joke about shipping him and billy. I’ll include him in things from time to time, granted not in the best light but if i straight up hate a character I simply do not include them at all

I think the difference between Jason and billy is that we SEE where billys trauma comes from. We have visual canon proof of it. So it’s a lot easier to look at that and go “ok now everything’s making sense”. With Jason, it’s not canon he was indoctrinated into anything (unless it is. Again, didn’t watch season 4). For all we know he could just live like that. Yes it can be easily assumed since he is still a teenager it is most likely his parents are also cuckoo and passed their ideologies down to him, but again, without any real confirmation, it remains a guessing game.

I also think with billy it’s like, he went after the people he went after for good reason (to him). Max gets his ire because they’re pitted against each other by neil, he goes after Lucas because he’s directly tied to max and everything that gets billy in trouble, he goes after steve for lying to him and being a creepy weirdo with his underage sister

As far as my knowledge of the Jason situation goes…there was no reason to go crazy on Lucas and Erica? Like yes they know Eddie and I guess it was about Jason thinking they were hiding him or something? But it’s like why do they need to be physically attacked (or threatened) so aggressively for it? The two situations in my mind are not the same. And maybe it’s because I’m a billy apologist. I’ll own that. But it comes down to billys safety specifically was in jeopardy the entire time, which led him to act out vs Jason just going on a vigilante crusade that ultimately had nothing to do with him

#briana answers things

[kuiinncedes]

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#ugh... sometimes i come on here and it's just like #can everyone shut up dkgflsj #this isn't directed at anyone actually mostly just #annoying anons which i haven't seen in a bit #but yeah idk #idk who's gonna see this that it applies to lmao but like i'm just gonna speak on the klaine front bc #people who send klaine anons to people who don't like klaine and are clearly trying to like stir up something i don't fucking know #can you PLEASE. STOP. #this is honestly pretty late i think lol it was kinda more relevant a while ago #i just keep thinking about it so i probably have to say it lol #when i see people generalizing about horrible klaine stans and how tumblr klaine stans are mean or whatever #i'm just a Baby so i get a little too upset about it lol #and like . it's not like i can't see where that's coming from bc i see the #aggressive klaine stans and the people who just act like #tbh idk i see people acting like their opinion is fact and i hate that #and the aggressive klaine anons #i don't know where i'm going with thisssss #if you have Opinions make ur own blog and/or talk about it with people who agree with you thank you good night #Anyway #stfu jeanne #idk if anyone's gonna see this but would it be possible to like have a general discourse tag to filter?? #sometimes i just ugh #yeah ok anyway #i have work to do #that i probably will not be doing #but i should so bye lol

[uweiy]

I'm intrigued by Love is Science? but know nothing about it. Can you give me a run down on what kind of thing to expect and who it might appeal to? Thank you!! 😁

Ooooo boi *gremlin smile* I'm glad you asked. You've entered the dragon's den, broken the dam and thus this post turned out to be a monster so I'm gonna link here another post from @accidentallyadramablog which imo gives a nice (and short) overview.

That said let's get into

Love is Science?

Summary :

Yan Fei is a the CEO of the Love is Science marriage agency, that matches people based on scientific data. Hsuan Yu, 8 years younger than her, is a promising young hairstylist who has been in love with her thoughout their entire childhood when she has only ever seen him like a little brother.

Unexpectedly they meet again. Between the way they've each built their lives and how Yong Yan Fei's ex husband still looms over Yan Fei's life, how will their relationship develop this time around ?

Now,

just reading that summary I know what you're thinking.

Indeed, if you have some experience with dramas, you might recognize some TYPICAL TYPICAL tropes – let's get them out of the way :

love triangle (though we all know who she is going to end up with don't we)

childhood friends

'noona romance'

And they are every bit as present and as trope-ey as you would expect.

However, as they say, the devil is in the details.

And particularly, in the side characters. Let me give you a quick rundown of the lot of them :

As such, we follow the stories of multiple relationships that develop parallel to one another.

The relationships

• Yan Fei/ Hsuan Yu : Not much needs to be added I think. Their storyline might be the most predictable but they are pretty sweet and heartwarming. pining for like 12 years though poor Hsuan Yu. Anyway you can enjoy it or find it boring or but you can't hate it.

• Mark/Ouwen : Noooow we're getting to it. Their dynamic is so... Refreshing and unique. Confident gay with a soft heart and dumb disaster bisexual I mean *chef kiss*👌delicious

After the disasters of their first meetings, it's a cat and dog relationship where Ouwen is the hsssssss don't touch me– cat and Mark is the golden retriever trailing after him not really realizing the rampage he's creating in Ouwen's heart. while Ouwen is like "Remind me why the FUCK I caught feelings again ?".

IDK it just has everything 'Enemies' to friends to lovers, (not actually) unrequited love, pining, sweet moments, jealousy, feelings realization, snarky banter... What more could one want.

• Cho Nai Hui / You Fu : they are. So. So sweet. Both are older and have experience, and as such they are not so naive or stupid as the youngsters. Them sharing their life experiences and going on dates like typically teenagers (in movies or TV shows anyway) would is refreshing to see and really really heartwarming.

• Liu Sheng Ying/ ??? Her ex ? : The show hinted at a wlw storyline and this arc seems to have JUST begun. Basically Sheng Ying's ex comes to Love is Science as a client and requests Sheng Ying as an advisor, while Sheng Ying still seems heartbroken over her. I can't WAIT to see how it develops.

The friendships :

Something I greatly appreciate is that both the romantic relationships AND the friendships have a great importance in the drama.

• Joanna and Yan Fei : Jo, queen Jo 👑. She's just here to gossip, get all the gossip and be the voice of reason and we love her for it. You can see how comfortable they are around each other and how they were there for each other during tough times and still are. Kudos to the actresses because I believed the characters were besties in a heartbeat.

• Hsuan Yu and Mark : they are honestly... Such polar opposites you kinda wonder how they became friends but they are and it works perfectly.

Hsuan Yu still hasn't gotten he maybe shouldn't take Mark's advice, and Mark still hasn't gotten that he, definitely should take Hsuan Yu's. It also enables to develop a more playful and mischievous side to Hsuan Yu, giving him more depth?

• Ouwen and Sheng Ying: rivalry to reluctant solidarity to friends-but-i-will-deny-it-if-asked to just friends. IT'S GREAT

I also ejoy the fact that these multiple storylines are allowed to coexist. The romantic ones, the friendships, older, younger, m/f m/m and f/f like take your pick !! And tbh a WLW storyline ?????? These are so scarce I will take anything.

The recurring themes :

The show more or less subtly touches on some topics/issues, to which the dating aspect contributes to.

A non exhaustive list would be

Divorce, and how divorced women can be viewed as failures for some reason

How successful men over 30 are sought after but successful women after 30 are somehow deemed undatable

Preconceived notions and homophobia

And beyond the topics, there's just things like... Joanna not being interested in long term relationships nor wanting to get married, reporting sexual harassment, older people going on dates.... I'm not saying it's a groundbreaking activist drama –which is not really what I was looking for– I just appreciate the fact that it is a pretty mainstream drama and that these things are there.

Mad respect if you've made it up to here ! but we're not quite done yet.

The cast and crew :

The other element that made this drama stand out for me besides the side characters is the cast.

It might be weird that such a meta thing impacts the appreciation of the show but it did, for me at least.

📣📣TMI WARNING 📣📣

For me what happened is I stumbled onto Mark and Ouwen cuts on YouTube, then somehow onto the behind the scenes. They weren't subbed at the time so I could barely understand a word of what they were saying, thus I'm not sure what but something about how the rest of the actors, the director and the crew were interacting just told me it was a show worth watching or at least checking out.

📣📣END OF TMI📣📣

The cast honestly seems to have a blast and to have, how to say it, come together really well. It seems like most of them have become genuinely friends, or despite differences in personality have truly enjoyed working with one another and with the rest of the crew, and it shows.

Where it's lacking

In my opinion the show does have some aspects where it underperforms.

As previously mentioned, the main plot is kinda tropey, furthermore, in a drama typical fashion when something is about to get resolved, immediately something else happens. Nothing unexpected from a drama though.

The pacing : Some moments of the main plot especially dragged on, so I admit I skipped through some parts.

Because I feel so strongly about all the characters though, I don't really mind the previously mentioned points. I just think it's a shame because I feel like if it had been crafted a little bit better it could have made the show go from an 8/10 good drama to an 11/10 friggin amazing drama easy.

Lastly, there is a pretty unequal time distribution so Yan Fei and Hsuan Yu do tend to occupy the most part of an episode. However some episodes are more centered on some pairings (like ep 11 that will probably have an important Mark/Ouwen part).

Overall

it's a drama that warms my heart, as simple as that. It's not that deep, it's pretty funny, the acting ranges from good to excellent and I have taken a liking to a lot of the characters, which is what I think fuels my interest for the drama.

And I feel like it managed to attract a wide range of audiences because the romances and relationships are so diverse. Whether you watch the show for its entirety or for one aspect/storyline/character is entirely up to you and I feel like the creators of the drama are aware of it as well : and you can easily find subbed compilations about each specific pairing on Settv's official YouTube channel.

Take that aspect that you like–if you find one of course–and enjoy it, that is all ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

What's left to say besides.... 🎉🎊 Congratulations for making it to the end of this lengthy post !

#I add a tmi warning in the middle as if this entire post wasn't one lengthy tmi lol #long post #love is science? #戀愛是科學 #lian ai shi ke xue #tw drama #taiwan drama #taiwanese drama #honestly thank you for this opportunity to talk about it #it made me happy heh heh heh #oh and if anyone else of the 15 people who like the show want to add stuff share your thoughts or highjack this post go ahead #lis?