What do u guys think svetlana tells yev about his dad ?
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was talking to the office manager and she was telling me that when she came to the u.s. she dropped her patronymic name because it was too confusing for people and that she went with the masculine spelling of her surname so that she and her husband would have the same last name because most americans aren’t familiar with russian naming conventions and it got me thinking about what svetlana would do with her own surname, which was given the masculine suffix in that one shameless skit
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thinking about how soo many of the hated female characters on shameless were just little girls who went through the worst
svetlana - was sold in sexual slavery at 10, bought into a new country through sex, and was violated at the same time mickey was.
debbie - was constantly abandoned by her parents and older sister. groomed by a 20 smth year old and was forgotten until someone needed something of her
fiona- imo she isn't as hated on, but still she was 9 and had to raise herself, her siblings while simukatnouely taking care of frank. she wasn't even in the double digits when she had to take on the role of a caretaker
mandy- was raped by her own dad on multiple occasions and therefore started seeing her body as a tool she could use to get validation . not to mention she wasn't even 20 when Kenyatta started abusing her and she left Chicago
karen- had to take care of her own mother instead of it being the other way around. her own dad humiliated her and had married a guy much older than her which I think could also ground for statutory rape and grooming in her case
tami - we don't know much about her but her mom died when she was really young and then was groomed by her teacher that she thought was giving her the attention she didn't get at home
also this was inspired by @lovekenney 's post
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at nine years old fiona was taking care of her siblings and dragging her alcoholic father in from the yard so that he wouldn’t freeze to death, at ten years old svetlana was working street corners for the pimp that her father sold her to, at eleven years old debbie was running a daycare in the summer to help out with the food and bills, at eleven years old karen’s mother stopped leaving the house
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this might be rlly controversial, but i don’t really like the ‘reunion between Mickey and Yevgeny’ trope. i think it’s such a sweet idea, but at the end of the day i don’t think it would be at all good for mickey. he wasn’t a good dad to yev, but he did try. in my opinion, he didn’t love him like a dad should love his kid and he’s allowed to not want to have to look after a child born in that way. there is no debate that svetlana is a very good mother and loved yevgeny, so even though her and mickey are in a similar situation regarding the rape, she loved the child and mickey just didn’t. sure, mickey cared about him, and maybe given time he could love him but i just don’t see him wanting the baby back. and that sucks for the baby and maybe svetlana if she struggles being a single parent (that old man ain’t doin shit).
I do have really complicated feelings about this one though, so please don’t come at me. i’m not hating on svetlana, im not saying it should all be her responsibility because she’s the mother, but i am saying that mickey shouldn’t HAVE to be responsible for a child born in that way.
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my favorite shameless lines:
carl: a shrink at school said i’m one of god’s mistakes.
debbie: you can't beat karate when it comes to regulated, sanctioned violence for children.
kevin: she’s so mysterious. she’s like the sphinx. part-cat, part whatever-the-fuck.
mickey: you came all the way down here to talk about my pubes?
ian: welcome to the predictable consequences of using crystal meth.
frank: i am whatever i need to be at the time i need to be it! christ, write that down.
lip: gfy. kevin: yeah, tgif!
fiona: start filling up apple juice, or i’ll have you and your commie fetus deported faster than you can say saigon.
ian: was mickey adopted?
carl: no white girl i don’t know you.
receptionist: do you have a husband or a boyfriend? frank: she has both.
frank: yak! yak! fucking yak!
debbie: frank gallagherrrrr! show yourself!
sheila: woah, big yellow icy spot on the sidewalk. i almost dropped the dip!
mickey: i’m fucking gay! big ‘ol ‘mo.
ian: you’re gonna get your ass beat by a ho..mo..sexual.
carl: they have to pay for their sins.
debbie: shut up, franny!
liam: drugs.
debbie: you cut hair, tami.
frank: the ltgbeieio!
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