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foundfamilynonsense · 8 months
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I’m gonna just throw this out before it happens:
Even if Sabine somehow “unlocks” the force through hard work, the Jedi were STILL RIGHT to only recruit force sensitive children.
There has only been one episode of Sabine learning to be a jedi so far. Look at how terrible of a time she’s having. She’s making zero progress, and we know she spent a long time with Ahsoka before quitting because she was making no process.
Why is she putting herself through all this grief with no reward? No idea. That’s another post.
But the point is Ahsoka isn’t even teaching Sabine what younglings were usually taught. She’s not trying to get Sabine to deflect blaster shots (bc she’d never be able to) and she’s not trying to teach Sabine how to move things with her mind (bc she’d never be able to). It’s just lightsaber lessons. Something Kanan taught Sabine already just as a Mandalorian wielding the dark saber. Sabine would be doing so much worse if she was in a normal youngling group.
Sabine has only gotten this far because she is a natural warrior. And she still already quit once. Ahsoka’s really not helping at all. She’s just telling Sabine to “feel it”
And sure! The other jedi masters did that. But they did that knowing that their students actually had a natural ability to feel the force!! Their students knew what they were trying to feel.
For someone who went through the public school system with dyslexia I honestly felt so frustrated and bad for Sabine last episode. Ahsoka and Huyang are telling her to do things she just has no ability to do. At least Huyang is being honest with her about why.
There is nothing more frustrating when you’re struggling and someone tells you to just. Do it better. Huyang and Ahsoka are not giving her any real instruction. Bc there is no instruction. There is no shortcut like there was with reading.
But unlike me and reading, Sabine does not have to be a jedi. She does not have to learn how to use the force. So why is Ahsoka putting her through this? Why is she putting herself through this?
Imagine if the Jedi order did that with little kids? Kids who may not have the option to quit like Sabine did? That would so so terrible for them. It’s already terrible for Sabine. How long did Sabine try the first time around? How terrible did it get, not making any improvement for so long, before she quit the first time? She doesn’t have to be a jedi. If you’re not force sensitive there’s no reason to force it. (Hehe, get it? Force it?)
If Ahsoka wanted a padawan she should have found someone force sensitive and trained them. Honestly this whole thing feels like a cruel joke on Sabine: someone who works hard and is naturally talented at many other things.
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I kind of feel like everyone is like "I love crosshair now" or "ever since the outpost I've liked crosshair" or "crosshair is finally a good character." And thats so cool! I'm so happy that more people like him now. But... who else has loved crosshair from episode one?
Crosshair has been my favorite member of the bad batch since the very beginning. I was like something is up with this guy and I'm not resting until I find out more. He's such a good character. The whole plot line about how he couldn't help turning on his brothers because of the chip broke my heart. Then he had his chip removed but he stayed with the empire because "loyalty meant something to me," which also broke my heart. He never had a choice. He loved his brothers, but he was loyal. And then he finally turned on the empire because they weren't loyal to him and not only did that break my heart, it also broke him. Through it all, he still loved his brothers. The whole time. And his sister, I think, though he didn't really know it. Yes, he had his inhibiter chip removed. But he never had a choice. Not really.
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kyber-collector · 9 months
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I’m very curious about the Bad Batch’s relationship with the regs. How did all the animosity start? We see regs insulting them and acting generally disdainful towards them in the mess hall on Kamino, but this seems odd to me. Clones, generally, value individuality and brotherhood. Differences are what make them unique, and they embrace those differences with alterations to their appearances and armor. We also see that many regs cared about 99, a “defective” clone just like the members of the Bad Batch. So why is there hostility towards them (apparently) for being different?
The Bad Batch also holds clear resentment towards the regs. They generally seem to believe that their genetic alterations and enhanced abilities make them better than the typical clone, with Crosshair even blatantly saying that they’re superior to the regs and implying the regs are expendable. Did they develop this attitude because the regs were bullying them, as a kind of defense mechanism? Or did the regs start to resent them and act hostile towards them because of their superiority complex? I’m very curious which came first, who “started” this feud. I hope we get more information on this in the future, possibly in the next season or in the upcoming issue of Hyperspace Stories.
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staycalmandhugaclone · 4 months
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Star Wars Rant - Take 2!
Guys. Guys, I’m sorry. I had a thought on the way to work today… and now I’m going to force it upon all of you, too, so that at least I won’t suffer alone.
Kaminoans do not value emotion. They value perfection. In fact, the social demand for genetic perfection is what led them to cloning and thus gave us our lovely copy/ paste cornucopia of delicious potential for OCs, wartime angst, and brotherly shenanigans. We know each clone ended up developing a unique personality even as cadets, but imagine the first batches. They didn’t have older clones to look up to, to learn that becoming their own person was okay. They had asshole mercenaries, the legendary original source for their DNA, and, most abundantly, the Kaminoans to raise them.
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Children learn through mimicry. They see their guardians interact with the world, and that’s the initial outline for who they become. If they spent most of their time around the Kaminoans, that means they would likely view emotions as a detriment, with some interplay offsetting that from Jango and the mercs.
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Fast-forward a couple generations to the discovery and implementation of said clones, during which time the Kaminoans have likely done away with anyone who strayed too far from their ideal soldier, furthering the general understanding that emotions are dangerous and something to be stifled. Then, suddenly, here are these Jedi Generals who fall all over the emotional spectrum! Shaak Ti shows them compassion. Yoda shows them acceptance (and chaos, let’s be real). Anakin shows them fun (also chaos. So much chaos). Obi Wan, the biggest flirt in the damn galaxy, just completely upends whatever textbook definition of romance may have been briefly taught to “prepare” them as cadets.
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What I’m really getting at, though, is that clones were brought up without love. They were created by a race that pretty much bred out any tendency toward affection, trained by a man who regarded them as lesser copies of himself, and *decommissioned* if they displayed too much independence (I know there are caveats to this, such as Alpha-17 and the CCs, but they had much less patience for the CTs). And here are these Jedi who love in such a blindingly open and overwhelming way. How do they cope with that? How do they not become insanely loyal to these kind, generous beings that don’t treat them like numbers for the first time in their lives??
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And then there’s the other side: the squads that have the misfortune of being paired with Jedi less prone to  that innate goodness, the squads trapped with Krell and Ki-Adi-Mundi. They never get the chance to feel valued as anything other than a tool. They may have heard the word “love” but would never be allowed to experience it, platonic or otherwise…
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I don’t have any grand ending thoughts here beyond the absolute tragedy that those men suffered, but I will say, it does tempt me with some utterly angsty and beautiful thoughts for emotionally crippled clone OCs and emotionally traumatized reader OCs accidentally find each other through various whumpee ways… be a shame if someone was inspired by this and tagged me in whatever may or may no come of it...
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anakinlives · 10 days
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sitting here thinking that so many factors could have prevented anis fall
- saving his mom
- never meeting padmae
- quigon not dying
- Jedi council be a lil more understanding and humble
- ik damn well anis emotions betrayed him 9/10 times there’s no way the Jedi didn’t know about him and padmae, maybe not that they were married but that something was up
- STOP JUST ASSUMING HES GONNA FIGURE IT OUT AND DO THE RIGHT THING PLZ GUIDE HIM HES STUPID, GETTING HIS EGO BLOWN UP AND EMOTIONALLY UNSTABLE
- idk maybe finding out palps was evil A LOT SOONER
- not letting ani get close to palps, especially at a young age like tf . Actually like not allow palps to access ani like ???
- stop treating him like an outsider like yk half of this was a self fulfilling prophecy. They saw danger/darkness in his future and idk instead of accepting him and understanding he’s a special case. They just aided his fall. Especially since they say the future is always in motion
- ultimately ofc ani making better choices and not thinking it was too late when he made bad ones bc he still had multiple chances to do the right thing and did not :(
-also obi maybe could have tried talking with ani a bit more during mustafar. I saw this what if video & i think it could have worked.
I truly believe he was still able to comeback up until he was left to die. Yes he was never 100% dark bc he came back to the light at the end but Vader really did a lot of bad things and it still breaks my heart to see what Anakin became. Yes now he’s a force ghost helping others again but I wish we had gotten FULL POTENTIAL ANAKIN not Vader ( still would be cool to see but Vader and ani looking the same would probably make me no bueno) .
Ofc sw would be different and things happened to fit the story and it did an amazing job. I just want happy ending for my prequel babes 🙂‍↕️
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i don't know about you guys but i'm mad hexx and veetch were faceless. and don't give me the "they're clones we know what they look like" alright i know that. but they just... died. it didn't mean anything for anyone.
but i guess thats the point isn't it.
the clones aren't anything anymore. nothing to the empire, and barely anything to themselves. their continues deaths are for nothing. like for fucks sake they died protecting fucking stormtrooper armour.
thats how pathetic the empire is.
and how nolan fucking stood and watched as mayday died, ignoring crosshair's plea to get him help.
and how that scene contradicts "we're clones sir, we're mean't to be expendable." "not to me" scene.
the clones mean nothing and is pisses me off.
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mysterythief · 7 months
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Ahsoka Rant: Colors and Fallen Jedi
It's Saturday, so I finally have time to sit down and write this analysis for Ahsoka that I've wanted to do on the importance of colors in Star Wars, and how it directly correlates to Ahsoka and explains the title for episode 4: Fallen Jedi.
Star Wars has always identified the hero and the villain of the show through colors and costuming. Anyone can walk into a Star Wars movie and without any other context identify the good and the bad guy based on the fact that the good guy wears light colors and the bad guy wears dark.
Don't believe me.
Phantom Menace:
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Attack of the Clones:
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Revenge of the Sith:
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A New Hope:
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The Empire Strikes Back:
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We see this light vs dark costuming choice in most Star Wars media. Our biggest exceptions are:
Anakin: After the Phantom Menace Anakin is always in dark colors. And even then his costume takes a gradual change to Darth Vaders full black.
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(Attack of the Clones vs Revenge of the Sith. You can see his costume gets darker)
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Luke: In Return of the Jedi, when he is close to giving into the dark side.
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And now Ahsoka (up til ep. 5):
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What is soooo interesting about the first 4 episodes of the Ahsoka show, is that you can't identify the good and the bad guys just by looking at their costumes. Everyone in the scene above is wearing dark colors. And they are all shades of grey.
The purpose of ep. 4: Fallen Jedi is to show that every Jedi we have seen up to this point in the show is a Fallen Jedi. They all carry aspects of the Jedi, but none of them are true Jedi.
Lets start with Baylan and Shin. The first time we are introduced to them mirrors the first time we are introduced to Qui-Gon and Obi Wan.
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Hoods over their heads, mysterious, walking side by side. Exactly how we know the Jedi to typically appear. Obi Wan and Anakin, even Luke, all typically enter a new area this way.
I would describe Baylan as Lawful Evil. He still believes in the practices of the Jedi, but not the Jedi code. He has Shin wear an apprentice braid
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They stay together so he can teach her at all time.
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And he keeps his word to Sabine.
But his morals reflect that of Vader. And his fight to rescue Morgan Elsebeth mirrors Vader fighting the Rebels at the end of Rogue One/ beginning of A New Hope.
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The most interesting aspect of this duo is the Shin has the lightest costume of the two (It's also lighter than Ahsoka and Sabine's costumes). It is closer in design and color to the typical Jedi outfit, while Baylan still wears Clone Wars armor.
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Baylan is the Jedi who fell during the Clone Wars. He feels he only knows how to destroy to create something better. Shin is still an apprentice, doing purely what her master tells her, and could go either way in the force. Her costuming suggests that her fate could swing and Ahsoka and Sabine could sway her away from the dark side. Either way, they have both certainly fallen from the Jedi Path.
Ahsoka is also fallen Jedi. Soon after meeting Ahsoka again we get this exchange between her and Hyuang.
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Ahsoka flat out tells us that she doesn't follow Jedi protocol. Though those of us who know Ahsoka from the Clone War know that this is literally nothing new. AND THAT'S THE POINT. Ahsoka was taught a mix of the Jedi code and a Warrior code, because that's what Anakin had to teach her to keep her alive. Ahsoka has been a fallen Jedi since the accusation that caused her to leave.
Unlike Baylan, Ahsoka doesn't follow standard Jedi teaching practices. Sabine doesn't have an apprentice braid. They don't stick together
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And even when they are together, Ahsoka keeps a purposeful distance, like she's afraid of the responsibility.
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And like Baylan, her outfit mimics her Clone Wars armor (from season 7)
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Baylan even directly addresses this to Ahsoka. That she only knows how to fight.
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A Jedi should know other ways, other options. But all Baylan and Ahsoka know is how to fight. (Which is why Anakin's lesson to Ahsoka in ep.5 is soo important. Look forward to another rant from yours truly on it more in depth.)
Knowing that Ahsoka has been a fallen Jedi for such a long time, seeing her in her fallen Jedi state, makes her transition to Ahsoka the White in ep. 5 so much more powerful, because seeing the main character finally in light colors tells us what we knew all along. That there is sooo much good in Ahsoka, just like there was good in her master before her, and his before him, etc. And we finally get to see Ahsoka in live action not as the fallen Jedi who has been picking and choosing her responsibilities, but as the Jedi Ahsoka is. With so much love, compassion, and kindness. I'm so excited to have the Ahsoka that we all know and love back!
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mistergreatbones · 1 year
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I hate that all of ahsoka’s relationships are seen as secondary to her relationship with anakin.
(oh my god i need to stop making ridiculously loooooong rants about a children's show from 2008. anyways spoilers below.)
Like, we know she has a relationship with Obi-Wan, but we never really see it expanded on. They’re in a lot of scenes together, but anakin’s always there and the focus is always on him. There aren’t really any one-on-one moments between just the two them.
During the Rako Hardeen arc, Ahsoka watches Obi-Wan die in her arms and all she has to say is that she’s worried about Anakin. We see Anakin be angry and try to kill “Hardeen” and Ahsoka’s right there with him with no elaboration into how she feels. And then Anakin calms down after he learns the truth and Ahsoka is just… also chill. If she was even told it was fake it happened off-screen, and on-screen she just all of a sudden stops being angry and sad and is just joking around with Padmé likes nothing’s wrong?
And Padmé. They hug and joke about Anakin and go off on missions with each other. Ahsoka confides in Padmé and goes to her apartment uninvited, and Padmé always seems genuinely happy to see Ahsoka, but I don’t remember ever actually seeing them meeting one another. And, while we do see Ahsoka mourning Padmé’s death, but we don’t ever get to see Padmé’s reaction to Ahsoka leaving. Padmé was just as much Ahsoka’s friend and mentor as Anakin, but while it’s implied that Anakin’s so aggressive and cold during season six is because he’s upset about Ahsoka, Padmé’s just… the same as she always is. She gets to be sad and angry about Anakin’s behavior, but her own relationship with Ahsoka is almost forgotten. And when Ahsoka comes back, Anakin gets to be ecstatic and happy over it, but then we don’t even know if Padmé was told her friend had returned.
It’s kinda like the show just assumes Ahsoka has a relationship with the people Anakin’s close to, but no one’s allowed to, like, outshine him.
Ahsoka spends the entire series with the 501st, but we never see her have any meaningful connections with them. She knows everyone’s name and she defends them in battle and she talks about how she trusts them, but she never interacts with anyone outside of combat. And they defend her too and follow her orders without question and paint they’re helmets in her honor (painting over one of obvious and most important identifying feature, meaning they are literally giving up their individuality to welcome back the girl they missed so much, but that's a whole other conversation), and most of the time we see them they are dying around her and she doesn’t even blink.
And Rex. Oh boy, Rex. Ahsoka spends her entire padawanhood at Rex’s side, and we’re never shown how it affects either of them. Rex is a battle-harden soldier forced to take orders from an inexperienced child. He lived with her and he fought with her and he watched her mature but there’s nothing to suggest he helped raised her. He’s not her master or her mentor or her brother or her father or her crèchemate or her CO, he’s just a guy who works for her. She calls him her friend and “Rex ol’ boy” and jokes with him and confides in him like they’re equals, but he only calls her “Commander” or “kid”. We get to watch Anakin warm up to her, but we don’t ever see Rex get used to her. He isn’t allowed to question her, he doesn’t react when she gets his brothers killed, but by the end he clearly respects her. He doesn’t mention her once when they aren’t in combat, but he’s happy to see her whenever they reunite.
Which, like. It makes sense. While most of the time we see Ahsoka is during missions and battles, she still was a Jedi and missed out on a lot of missions because she was back at the Temple doing her Padawan duties. If Ahsoka's primary social sphere is the Jedi, it'd make sense for her to only have a working relationship with the clones, but when never really get to see Ahsoka's relationship with the Jedi either.
She has these really meaningful moments that shape her identity with Sinube and Aayla and Luminara and Jocasta, and then barely interacts with them afterwards. We see how important Plo is to Ahsoka, and then she never mentions him or mourns him, and he we never see her feelings on her leaving.
We see Yoda genuinely shook and haunted and guilty and regretful about what happened to Ahsoka. We see her go to him for advice and spar with him and be taught by him and helping him with the younglings during the Gathering. We know they know each other, but we don't know why Yoda assigned her specifically to Anakin. We don't see either of their feelings about Ahsoka being a member of Yoda's lineage. We don't know her feelings about being in the same lineage as Qui-Gon or Dooku either.
We get to see Ahsoka and Barriss become friends on Geonosis, but we don't get to see that relationship develop until all of a sudden Barriss is framing Ahsoka for terrorism. Which is. Something that deserves elaborating I believe.
And we don't get to see Ahsoka be friends with any other Jedi her age. Anakin was the one who introduced Barriss and Ahsoka, and Kanan is younger than her and didn't seem to know her super well. We never see any of the people Ahsoka was raised with. The only person from her childhood she ever mentions is Plo. Like surely Ahsoka had friends growing up that she missed, other Padawans on the frontlines or at the Temple when she was being accused. And is Ahsoka *was* friendless growing up, that would likely have reflected in her personality?
And for the other friends Ahsoka makes in her range: she doesn't talk to Saw or Lux again after Onderon, we know next to nothing about her relationship with Bo-Katan, and when Ahsoka and Riyo were playing Nancy Drew it's just casually brought up that they've been besties the whole time?
(Trace and Rafa were done well though. They and Plo can remain unelaborated.)
And after tcw, this doesn't get any better! We don't know why she stayed in touch with Bo-Katan to the point that she knows what backwater planet Ahsoka was liberating.
And fucking Rebels,,, like we know she was a close friend and mentor to Ezra, but we don't see many meaningful moments between them, until all of a sudden Ahsoka is sacrificing herself and Ezra is crying on Kanan's shoulder like he did when his parents died. And then Ahsoka is ignoring the rest of the galaxy, just trying to find Ezra.
We don't see her relationship or feelings with Kanan, one of the only Temple-raised Jedi left. We don't see her relationship with Sabine, just that they're working together to find Ezra.
And Tales of the Jedi ALSO brought up more questions. Bail and Ahsoka are friends?? Ahsoka regularly lets the clones give her a concussion, to the point they can just be standing in a circle shooting at her in the middle of the hanger on the Star Destroyer and no one blinks??
And, well it's no longer canon, Ahsoka was designed wearing traditional Togruta clothes in the form of her sash and her akul-tooth headdress, which you can only get from killing an Akul single-handedly. This implies she has a relationship with her culture, and has performed Togruta rituals, likely on Shili. She calls the Togruta colonists on Kiros as "her people", implying she sees herself as one of the Togruta, in addition to being a Jedi. But does she know her parents? Does she have Togruta friends, whether on Shili or within the Jedi? Certainly you can identify with the culture you descended from without being close to your parents (2nd and 3rd gen immigrant identity crises rise up!), but we don't get to know her thoughts and relationship to her people. We don't know who took her back to Shili, who taught her about her people since her parents couldn't. I mean we know there are other Togruta Jedi, but I don't recall Ahsoka even interacting with Shaak Ti, a Togruta Jedi who was already in tcw.
I mean, we don't even see how her species makes her different from the humans around her. We don't see her fangs or her roar or her echo-location. They even gave her human eyes when originally they were gonna look like Shaak Ti's.
When Ahsoka leaves the Order, she stops wearing Togruta clothes. She doesn't go to Shili or Kiros, places where it can be assumed she has a relationship with someone, even if it's not her parents. She doesn't go see Padme or Riyo, both established to be close friends not in the Jedi.
We know she feels angry and upset with the Jedi and the Republic who betrayed and abandoned her, but we only see her goodbye to Anakin, not to Plo or Obi-Wan, who were on the council that dismissed her and would have complicated feelings in regards too. Not to Sinube or Jocasta or Aayla. Not to Padme. Not to Rex.
After Order 66, she mourns Anakin and Padme and Obi-Wan and the clones and... no one else. No mention of the Jedi she knew. She lived fourteen years without knowing Anakin, Obi-Wan, or Rex, but it's like she appeared out of the ether to join their group!
She went from ~Togruta girl brought to the Temple by Plo~ to ~Anakin's sassy badass Padawan~ with no in-between stage! Absolutely no mention of her life as an youngling and initiate!
And like, I know she was literally created to be Anakin's Padawan, and was never meant to be anything more then a device to aid his fall, but it shouldn't feel like that. Sure, she looks cool and she has character traits and she has other relationships, but it certainly feels like they needed Anakin to have a Padawan so they made "Anakin's PadawanTM" without thinking of her in any other way beyond that. And when she became a character who was bigger than just Anakin, they didn't bother fleshing her out as anything other than the vague idea she started as of "Jedi Togruta teenage girl Commander".
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nikki-is-a-nerd · 5 months
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I just saw a TikTok posted by star wars official page and it made me giggle. It was eman and ivanna and basically eman was running, with a caption that says "when they said the party has lightsabers" and ivanna is shown running faster than him with the caption "Sabine is there"
Honestly I ship wolfwren a lot since I am a sucker for enemies to lovers XD I'm just giggling how happy eman looked in the TikTok
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kid-az · 2 months
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Star Wars AU/alternate timeline where Jakku isn’t Just Tatooine 2 but has a different aesthetic to it, aka Scavenger-punk where the native cultures all emphasize the scavenging and recycling of the wrecks of spaceships and vehicles from various wars and making use of them in their daily life, kinda like how Rey resided inside an At-At.
The planet being utterly filled with the wrecks of Imperial, Rebel, Clone Wars, and even older ships, and half of the inhabitants of Jakku are sapient droids (Many being CIS battle droids who live peacefully with the residents) who coexist equally and alongside the organic inhabitants.
Not only do sapient organics and droids benefit from these wrecks but the wildlife does too. Water from coolant systems and waste alike, food supplies and shade provided by these ships creating oasis’s filled with bountiful life and plants, the warships that were once utilized to kill instead nourishing new life on the planet.
While definitely cold in exterior and distrustful of outsiders, (Since these outsiders were usually criminal groups or corporations wanting to exploit the resources of Jakku) Jakku’s people emphasized cooperation and supporting one-another in their daily life and struggles.
The galaxy may have treated them as nobodies and their planet as a dumping ground for trash, but for the people of Jakku their planet was a home that had everything they needed, a world that was theirs to be free, to run amok the so-called “useless” wrecks and make something new and beautiful out of them.
Sorry for not sounding normal I just think Jakku had potential to not be a discount Tatooine and instead be a unique planet with its own identity and culture emphasizing cooperation and the recycling of old technology and treas to make tools and works of beauty, where organics and droids lived together in harmony.
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jewishcissiekj · 14 days
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The Rattatak origin for Asajj and Ky is very important to me because there's something so special about this bond between someone who's been raised to fight, whose parents were warlords, and a Jedi, a peacekeeper. That part is present in the canon origin, but not as much, and is only brought in later on, with Dooku: Jedi Lost's expansion on their story (which draws from the Rattatak origin so much!!!). I also think that, while Asajj is lost as a character, she should think she's right. She should think she has things backing her, at all times. Having her legacy of war and becoming a warlord herself on Rattatak means so much to her and TCW just... misses that point. The way I understand her, which is my interpretation from everything about her in Legends, she strives for power even though she has a lot of it. She has a castle on Rattatak, at least one loyal guard, a prison, and a life. Republic #60 presents this unexplored part of her story that actually adds so much to the depth of the character. She didn't choose it, not at first, but she uses the power Dooku gave her, and she has power of her own.
There's something about her in her (only) 12 Legends comic issues that gives her much more independence and character depth than I feel TCW has ever done. She is a blind servant of power, of Dooku, yes, but there's more of her. another thing that almost doesn't exist in canon, and doesn't exist in TCW at all, is Asajj and Ky's role on Rattatak.
"On her own, Asajj would have died. Left to his own devices, the stranger would have undoubtedly been captured and killed. But together they became something our world had never known... They became heroes. They ended wars and united armies. And as their legend grew..." -Osika Kirske, Republic #60
In TCW, Ky's a savior to her most of all. Rattatak isn't that much of a hostile and unfamiliar environment, and Dooku: Jedi Lost even implies he could have taken Asajj to Coruscant. But here, it's their partnership that saved them both. And they weren't only partners, they were heroes to Rattatak, a land of war and conflict. It's important that she's more than a Jedi. Rattatak was her life, not a place she as taken to as a baby. It's also important that she is from Rattatak (while Ky isn't), to not be a, you know, foreign (white) savior story. Another quote from Kirske in Republic #60 while I'm at it, about Asajj after she met Dooku.
"After her mentor's death, Ventress assembled an army. She learned new tricks from other off-worlders. She waged war on us all... She killed or captured all who would oppose her..."
Again, I don't think her being from Rattatak gives her any more right to conquer the planet (which she didn't do in TCW because god forbid she does anything but look sexy while fighting Obi-Wan in season 1), but it does make sense for her. Meeting Dooku changes her perspective, and while she still views herself as a Jedi, she feels she has more right to be a Jedi than Obi-Wan or anyone else (calling him a false Jedi). I don't think George Lucas thought all of that through when he said he wanted to make Asajj a Nightsister. Hell, I don;t think he read Republic #60. I think elements from that issue were even incorporated into the show in the first place because they just had to fill the gaps. Still, I talk a lot about how I hate that retcon and I truly do, but I never really explained it. Can't imagine this was clear as a rant but I did just want to write some of this down.
Lastly, just the concept of a fully grown Jedi learning from and teaching this feisty child how to fight in this war and how to be on this planet is. priceless. I love it.
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Gonna rant about Anakin’s lightsaber in the rise of Skywalker here for a bit:
Anakin skywalker’s lightsaber is not only one of the most iconic things in the franchise, but it’s original loss was CRUCIAL to Luke’s character arc and the story’s progression in the OT. It was the symbol of everything Luke knew about his father, everything Luke thought his father was. And Luke lost it mere moments before Vader revealed his identity.
Lost isn’t even the right word. It was taken from him the moment the truth was staring him in the face.
It is arguably the perfect symbol to represent the OT’s story. Luke believed in this idealized past, fought for it, and that vision is shattered once he came into contact with reality. And so rather than continue to fight for the past, he now fights for the future, and decides for himself what is right and wrong.
I do not care for the sequels in general, but episode 8 understood this perfectly, which is why the saber was first thrown away by Luke, and then later destroyed by Rey and Kylo as Rey fought him to restore an idealized past version of him, while Kylo wanted to discard it and press on.
Rey rebuilding it completely ignores this, and instead has her looking back to old mentors to tell her what to do vs following her judgement. She just keeps running to the past she knew was false anyway.
Misunderstandings like this litter the whole movie and I’d talk about them but others already have so I wanted to vent why the lightsaber bit irked me.
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kiramarien · 10 months
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“Why is the “beskar” so important for the Mandalorians?”
This is actually a question that was asked in universe. There was a moment in Star Wars where the future of beskar (and the future of Mandalore) was called into question.
Throughout The Mandalorian series we are shown over and over again just how powerful beskar armor is. Especially pure beskar alloy.
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It easily deflects blaster bolts, and it has even been shown to deflect lightsaber blades, something very few metals have been able to do. The purer the beskar, the stronger the armor becomes.
But beskar is not only one of the strongest metals in Star Wars; it also has enormous cultural significance to the Mandalorian people. This is best explained through the events that happen in Season 4 Episodes 1 and 2 of the animated series Star Wars Rebels, titled "Heroes of Mandalore." This happens before the Purge of Mandalore, a few years before Rogue One and A New Hope.
After years of civil war, Mandalore has fallen into Imperial rule.
Some factions have chosen to accept this, and others have even chosen to join the empire. But we all know Mandalorians. Most of them will never go down without a fight.
Hoping to subdue the rebellious factions fighting against them on their planet, the Empire tried to find some kind of tool they could use to subdue the people of Mandalore. And they did. They developed a prototype of a weapon that not only overpassed the protections of their beskar armor, but used it against them.
“(The) Arc Generator's energy pulse is drawn to the beskar alloy in the Mandalorians' armor, superheating it and instantly vaporizing the target,”
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The weapon was used, and- well…
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… It was devastating.
“You miss the true artistry of this weapon, Governor Saxon. It turns an armor legendary for its strength into a crippling weakness, and it strikes at the very heart of your people's tradition.“ - Grand Admiral Thrawn.
When the weapon is used, and they see the extent of the damage it can do, the Mandalorians we see are shattered.
Because of this, the Empire may just turn their world into a wasteland.
In this moment, the characters are mourning their dead and questioning the future of their entire people. Hoping to find a way to help, Ezra Bridger asks what seems to be an obvious question:
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“Okay, so this weapon only targets Mandalorian armor, right? So why not make your armor out of something different?”
Silence is his response. After a very tense moment, and some very angry faces from the Mandalorians with him, Sabine slowly responds:
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“Ezra… the armor I wear is 500 years old. I reforged it to my liking, but the battles, the history, the blood, all lives within it, and the same goes for every Mandalorian.”
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“This armor is part of our identity. It makes us Mandalorians who we are.” - Aldrich Wren.
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“And now it's going to make us dead.” - Bo Katan Kryse.
Beskar is clearly one if the strongest and most resilient metal alloys in the galaxy. But to the people of Mandalore it is so much more than that. It is culture. It is history. It is religion.
It is identity.
It doesn’t matter if wearing their armor will destroy them. After everything their people had been through, beskar had come to represent everything they were. And even as they stare death in the face, they would sooner die wearing it than give it up.
(Thank you for coming to my TED talk. Holy crap this took a while but it was a lot of fun. I answered this question on another site but liked it so much I decided to post here too. Thank you for reading!)
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kindlythevoid · 10 months
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So this point might have been made but I would once again like to link the Death of the Clones and to the Fall of the Republic
We all knew that the downfall of the Republic went hand-in-hand with Order 66. In Clone Wars, Filoni, as we all knew, emphasized the clones’ death in the series finale as much as the Jedi’s in the movies. He places real emphasis on the effect it had on the clones, who we had grown to see as individuals, as people, while the Emperor saw them as a means to an end. 
However, not only does Filoni acutely break our hearts by showing us the other side of the coin, he makes an interesting association throughout the show. The end of the Jedi means the end of the Republic, it’s true, but, in most media types, Luke Skywalker rebuilds the Jedi Order in a new way and helps preserve their legacy. The Empire is done away with and the Republic restored. 
Or is it?
On one side, the New Republic and the Jedi show the resurrection of an old idea in new ways, a transformation in order to adapt to new ideals. 
But the Old Republic is dead. The time of the Jedi intermeshed with the Republic is gone and buried, another story to be passed down as more of a cautionary tale than the height of an ancient order. 
You know who else is dead? That never gets revived or reformed? The clones. 
Our brave boys in every color under the sun die, and they never return, not in any way that prolongs them. 
You see, they age on the double. During wartime, this was so they could get more troops on the field faster. Afterwards? It’s pretty convenient that they die twice as fast as the rest of the population. And even though surviving clones such as Rex and Wolffe and Gregor, the main ones we truly know about surviving later on at this point in the Star Wars Canon, made huge contributions to the Republic, it ultimately will not benefit them from a genetic or cultural standpoint. 
Culturally, they were dead the moment the Emperor gave the order. 
And, here’s the kicker, so was the Republic. 
The Republic spent its last years mired in politics and war rooms and, as Filoni likes to remind us, clones. 
I’m still going through my rewatch of the clone wars, but there are a few prominent scenes that come to mind that make Filoni’s point, intentioned or not, extremely clear. 
The first is this gif of Commander Thorn’s death. 
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As Thorn falls back after his admittedly badass last stand, he lands in the center of what I would describe as a symbol of the Republic. The gear’s right there, formed by the droids. 
This, of course, is just one of several moments where the Republic symbol is made, but it is a popular scene and a good example for the point I’m trying to make. 
Thorn in this picture, takes the place of the Republic. And just as the clone dies, so, too, does the Republic.
Don’t believe me?
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Fives very literally held the secret to the clones’s survival. And, as we all know, had the clones had full control, it is likely the Republic would not have fallen, or at least not as dramatically and without the multiple genocides on its way out. 
Fives, in the gif above, is surrounded by the Republic symbol once again, only this time by other clones. It’s poetic, in a way, that two clones struggling to save their people die in a Republic symbol. Almost as if the fate of the Republic hinges on the fate of the clones. 
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And if that doesn’t cover it enough for you, if you truly don’t see the connection between the clones and the Republic, I’d like you to meet a dear clone whom we all love:
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Jesse. 
The only clone I’ve seen with a big ass tattoo of the Republic symbol stamped right there on his damn face. 
Jesse, who truly believed in the Republic and had served long enough to be the only clone other than Rex to keep his helmet creatively apart after Ahsoka’s return. 
Jesse, whose death marks the start of the Empire. His destruction and death under Order 66 marks the turning point in Clone Wars. Before they got the call on that ship, the Republic was alive and basically done with the war. But as soon as that ship crashed, as soon as we see that Jesse is well and truly dead, buried and respects and everything, the next scene, the very next scene, features Darth Vader and the Empire. 
The clones were the canaries of the Republic. When they died, the Republic followed. 
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anakinlives · 15 days
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I think seeing Anakin in Ashoka kinda shows people that it wasn’t really Hayden’s acting that was “off” but it really just was how it was written. IMHO while I know the prequels weren’t perfect I always loved it, I don’t have much issue with the writing or acting. Ani’s a teen/young adult who has trauma and does not know how to emotionally regulate like… George even said Hayden played Anakin how he wanted him to be portrayed. Hayden’s the perfect Anakin, I couldn’t see anyone else play him. never really understood the big hate the prequels got
That being said to me in Ashoka ( I haven’t seen it yet but I’ve watched all the parts that anakins in ) the way Hayden plays Anakin reminds me more of TCW ani then his movie counterpart. So Hayden was able to portray both. I know George wished they expanded more on ani’s good in the movies vs just focusing on his turn but there was only so much they could add. So clone wars gives us that (along with comics and books but it is really hard to consume it all). I do love both anis as they are they same lol but sometimes TCW ani feels a bit OOC, I can’t really explain it but it feels like that.
Regardless I love seeing ani content and it was cool to see Hayden act as TCW ani . I think the shift between AOTC to what we see in TCW could have been explored( apparently CW 2003 does that but I haven’t seen it yet and isn’t canon anymore)
TCW ani is similar to ROTS ani but not quite the same, im still glad TCW exists and is canon. I do think it adds to anakins character regardless of ooc moments and makes everything so much sadder. I find myself sitting here thinking wow this is all going to end and these happy moments are going to be destroyed and Anakin is gone ( there are moments that he genuinely pisses me off bc babes WHAT ARE YOU DOING PLEASE).
Through his fall in the prequels was always so sad to me even w/o TCW. Some think TPM should just be skipped and adds nothing but I disagree, I mean had that movie gone differently anakins fate would be different. Plus seeing kid ani, a bright boy who wanted to help people become what he became…yeah idk it’s definitely important to ani’s arc.
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themistymountainscold · 11 months
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okay to the people who keep saying "crosshair should have gone with the batch at the end of s1"
tell me, truely, would you want to go with the people who were non-stop pointing blasters in your face the whole time you were trying to help them?
and yes the batch had their right not to trust. but do you really think crosshair would want to be around them without their trust?
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