#spirituality discussion

[kingzois]

I never wanted Shanks to turn out to be a villain. It wouldn't feel right from a storytelling perspective, and I genuinely have a soft spot for the character. Yet, there's an intriguing allure to the idea. Especially when considering Buggy.

Picture your childhood best friend, almost like a brother, someone you believe you know inside out, only to discover they're a person even you, out of all people, find despicable.

Buggy stands out as one of the rare few who doesn't fear or respect Shanks in any way.

However, this would be the very first time he'd truly, deeply fear him.

not due to Shanks' overwhelming power, or his amazing Haki, but because of how much he was able to fool him. How did Shanks manage to deceive him so thoroughly? Was this the man he trusted to carry on Roger's legacy?

Was this his friend?

#buggy the clown #buggy d clown #buggy one piece #red haired shanks #shuggy #buggy x shanks #one piece #I was discussing this with my boyfriend and had a spiritual awakening #it was like a calling #IMAGINE THE BETRAYAL DUDE #rat haired shanks #one piece shanks

[cartoonsbyandie]

World's smartest man :3 in the worst fit you've ever seen

#My mom found out one of her coworkers was into DetCo and said #'Oh my daughter loves that! Especially RICHARD' #And the coworker apparently made a disgusted face (which could've been for many reasons lbr) #But no it was because my mom was using the english dub names and coworker hated the english dub #Which: Fair enough but if you're out there I would love to discuss this bc I'm a dub apologist #That said spiritually this is Booker Kudo. Who's Yusaku I've never heard of him #(Booker kudo has to be the dub name that tickles me the most #He's an author. Name him Booker) #dcmk #detective conan #yusaku kudo #booker kudo #kudo yusaku #febkewary

[nessguts]

first time <3

#at its root this is what kakavege is to me lol #them doing smth so mundane together like sitting in the shower.. #they were probably just sitting there holding each other for like 10 minutes before goku spoke up lol #the discussion about not needing to communicate verbally bc they know each other spiritually.. lol #vegeta being like ‘after all that u rly want me to say it…??’ and calling goku an earthling… #then he says it with hesitation but goku says it back right away HDJDJFJF OKAY #SORRY IM ANALYZING MY OWN PIECE LMFAO #kakavege #dbz

[filurig]

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

#Guys yaoi warning... #oc stuff #doodle #oc: arvo #oc: folke #this isnt canon (...... at least not during the story) but this si like what happens spiritually when theyre having discussions. You know #pareidolia tag #also arvo has a shitty haircut here bcs its supposed to be post pt 1 and 2 arvo LOL

[callmearcturus]

i'm confused, are you cis or trans or other?

if you gotta ask, I have good news! it probably doesn't concern you.

#Anonymous #gender is like spirituality to me #ie a largely private practice #the majority of my discussion of my gender is with close friends #so don't worry about it

[thatswhatsushesaid]

Was Nie Mingjue qi deviating when he insulted JGY's mom, pushed him down the stairs, and tried to cut off his head? Bc those do not seem like the actions of a reasonable and just man in his right mind, but I've seen some people defending that bit recently and I wanted to check (I don't own the book, otherwise I would have looked myself lol)

- yunmeng-jiang

i'm really glad i haven't seen the posts defending nmj's conduct on the staircase lol. man. okay:

nmj is not qi deviating during that scene in the novel, no. jgy doesn't begin playing turmoil for nie mingjue until after the confrontation on the staircase (and i am not interested in relitigating this discourse again, anyone else who may see this and feel inclined to argue with me). so while i definitely feel that nmj's continued cultivation with baxia has influenced and more deeply entrenched his hatred and distrust of jgy, he is not qi deviating in that moment. his qi deviation happens at the martial conference about two to three months later, if i recall the timeline as laid out in the empathy flashback + wangxian's conversation with lan xichen.

which makes it worse in some respects, doesn't it. 😕

#asks answered #there was some good discussion last year around how jgy might have managed to blend turmoil into cleansing #without actually deploying spiritual power when playing the turmoil component until after the staircase #we know that jgs wanted jgy to get rid of nmj because jgy confirms this for us during the guanyin temple confrontation #but we also know from wwx that cleansing was actually working as it should have when jgy was playing it for nmj #so i tend to think it's possible that jgy prepared the blended music Just In Case he couldn't get da-ge to back off #of wanting to see xue yang executed #but then The Staircase Incident happened and. well. #we all know the rest #mdzs meta #he did crimes??? good for him 😌 #nie meangjue 🤯

[pickled-flowers]

Having very big thoughts about spirituality and humanity.. alas I am never articulate enough so I'm just gonna rent in the tags as always

#IDK #like also im from Quebec and the relation to spirituality/religion here is strange #i wish i could have a conversation with someone about it 😭 #and like spirituality is such an important part of the human experience? #hhh idk how to explain what im feeling but #anyways. #im very thankful to have found faith in my life i believe it is making me a better person #a year ago i discovered one of my best friend has very bad religious trauma #her point of view on any and all spirituality was really bad (still sort of is) #but to completely dismiss religion in regard to human life is not the way!! #i was glad to explain to her what religion meant to me and like yea i did grow up thinking religion was a little stupid #but that was because all i was taught about religion was through christian lenses #i truly love discussing with religious people about our beliefs and how it affects our day to day #like my old colleague who was muslim was always happy to talk to me about Islam and her name-sake Aisha #like idk #idk ok!! #spirituality can be very beautiful and i have many feelings about it

[talks-with-the-void]

Werewolf Diarys part 1: When spirituality becomes toxic.

[I am very much taking suggestions for a better title instead of "werewolf Diarys btw if someone has any... also mentioning some people who showed interest in my writing, I hope you don't mind! :3 @solacesins @wolfislost @a-dragons-journal ]

Spirituality is and always was a huge part of the alterhuman community. When I, back in 2016, came in contact with this whole phenomenon for the first time, it was everywhere - kinfolk talking about past lifes, others who practised witchcraft or other magick, soulshards, godshards, parallel lifes, all of it. And while, in my perception of things, psychological otherkin are nowadays a lot more present, I would say the majority of alterhumans is still heavily spiritual.

Now, don't get me wrong - I don't think of that as a bad thing. Not in general. And I have exactly zero problems with folk believing in and practicing spirituality - I may not personally share their beliefs, but I think this is one of the areas where individual truths very much exist. Actually, my own opinion on anything is not really relevant here, I want to talk about something much more broad. A structural community-issue, I would dare to say and surprisingly something I've never seen anyone talk about.

Spirituality is a powerful tool and if used in the right way, a great source of comfort and stability for someone. That is great! I absolutely support that. A problem, however, may occur if a young person without established beliefs newly discovers their alterhumanity, joins the community and sees spiritual representation everywhere, but far far less resources for psychological alterhumanity. If you are constantly confronted with people who find happiness in a spirituality, chances are high you feel drawn towards that. Again - this is not an anti-spirituality post in disguise. You will soon understand what my point here is. So, you might start to - subconsciously or knowingly - try to fit in, to find the happiness they have. It happened to me in that exact way: I knew basically nothing about myself or my alterhumanity and I never had the chance before to explore what I might or might not belief in. Then I saw everyone talking about past lifes and simple as that, more or less decided my alterhumanity was rooted in a past life too. Because I wanted to belong. This alone would not be too much of an issue - in the normal way of things, if someone - me in this case - subconsciously or knowlingly forced themselves to belief in something they actually don't, after a few months or years they'd realize that and find their own way. Being wrong about something and trying to fit in is not inherently bad! It's a completely normal thing for (human or at least humanly socialized) brains to do.

But what happens if the person in question ends up in toxic spiritual spaces? That, too, happned to me. I had the unfortunate experience of being a deeply unstable young being with untreated BPD, depression, anxiety and various other issues who so desperately wanted to fit in. I met some people who I greatly looked up to, who followed spiritual paths - and I wanted to impress them, to be like them and most importantly not being left by them. Very very unfortunately... they had a lot of black and white thinking going on. Every little doubt about their belief was taken as a personal attack, every suggestion that something might not be a result of manifestation but maybe just a coincidence was met with anger. Don't get me wrong, if someone constantly disrespects your beliefs and tells you they're wrong, it's absolutely okay to be angry about that! But this was not the case here. I was literally afraid to say that I experienced, for example, energetic cleansing differently than they did because it would have been taken as a personal attack. But still, I wanted to fit in and was so scared of loosing the small community I built with those people that I didn't realize they were the reason I felt more and more miserable.

For those people, anything and everything was something spiritual and saying something like "oh, just yesterday I thought about song XY and today I've heard it on the radio 5 times! That's so funny, it's not even in the charts at the moment!" was instantly met with "you manifested the song!". I was talked over and told my own experiences were wrong because they didn't align with their beliefs. Lucky for me, at some point a lot of internal changes (we're a median system) happened and I/we realized what was going on and quickly cut all ties with those people. We rapidly got better and accepted that we just don't hold spiritual beliefs and that's okay. But this time did leave scars.

As a side note, aside from my personal experiences, chalking everything up to spirituality can be downright dangerous. I can lead to not checking in with the doctor because the shadow people you're seeing? Oh, it's just spirits! While I'm not saying it absolutely must be something medical, it could be hallucinations, caused by whatever. The strong headaches you get? Oh well, just caused by a blocked chakra (or, maybe not?). You might be right. It might be caused by metaphysical things, i am not telling you you're wrong. But it might as well be something health related. The circles I was in really danced on the line of being like this. Or, they crossed it, I think - several people there claimed to be able to perform physical healings over the internet. For me, they never worked.

The "structural problem" I mentioned earlier is simply how present spirituality is in this community and how that, naturally, leads to young folk blindly taking on those beliefs. That's not the fault of people who talk about their spiritual experiences and I'm not saying you should stop talking about it. Not at all! That would not be the solution.

So, what do I want to happen instead? We need to do two things: one, encourage critical thinking. And I don't mean the old-school "grilling" and having folk "prove" their identities. I mean we have to encourage folk, especially young folk, to not blindly follow beliefs they see everywhere around them but rather to look at themselves from different angles and find their own truth. If that truth ends up matching with the more common ones, great! Absolutely nothing wrong with that. But Alterhumanity and identity in general is about discovering yourself and who you are and that simply doesn't work if you try to follow someone else's individual truth. In the worst case, it might lead people into groups like the one I described above and I for one, don't want that to happen. The other thing is, the psychological side of this community needs to be more present. We need more voices speaking about psychological experiences, we need to represent ourselves more. It is so, so important for new folk in our community to be exposed to all sides of it, not just to a few.

Spirituality in itself is not bad or dangerous, but some people make it dangerous. I know that 99% of spiritual alterhumans are totally chill and cool and all of you have my deepest respect, but like it is with all things in life, toxic people also exist. And because of how prominent spirituality is in this community, i think it is our respnsibility as a community to try and protect newbies from those rare but existing toxic spaces.

I know I might step on some paws with this post and I apologize for that. But I honestly have never seen anyone talk about this issue, although I am sure I'm not the only one who experienced something like this. I'm totally open to discussion and questions, just please stay civil and respectful and grant me the benefit of the doubt - if you read this post anf thought "wow, that's such a mean thing to say", please assume it was just bad wording. English is not my native language after all.

Thank you for reading!

#I am aiming more for a discussion-inducing writing style btw not really a professional essay style #alterhuman #alterhumanity #nonhuman #otherkin #nonhumanity #psychological otherkin #spiritual otherkin #spiritual alterhuman

[countess-of-edessa]

the thing about taking advice from anyone on tiktok or instagram including catholic and christian type influencers, parenting advice, relationship advice, etc, or internalizing any stories of horrible relationships and betrayal people tell on those platforms, or reading about all the ways interpersonal relationships can end horribly and be cycled through extremely quickly on those platforms is that you are necessarily then consuming the thoughts and experiences of someone who is willing to put their face and name on a public social media platform to talk at you. and like 1% of those people have a good reason for doing so and the other 99% are completely unhinged. so everything you’re consuming has first gone through the filter of "is this person weird and insane enough to make Instagram reels of themselves crying?" and if the answer is yes maybe their advice doesn’t apply to your life because you’re a normal person who would not do that.

#i don’t know if this makes sense but it’s something i was thinking about today #not that i really live my life according to Instagram reel advice but as a human being when i see something stated as fact i naturally seek #out the parts of it I believe or compare it to my current worldview #and when that person seems to have a lot of “clout” for discussing spiritual things….idk sometimes I’m like wait is this true? should i #believe this? and other times I’m like well is this a real pattern of behavior that can be observed in many people from different walks of #life including my own? this thing that all men do or all women do or the way all couples will eventually behave #this makes it sound like i am constantly on social media consuming hours of content which im really not #I’ll be on a train and scroll a little bit and something gets stuck in my craw #but with me I’m always like am i rationalizing this away because i don’t want it to resonate? #and I think in the case of anything on social media the answer can almost always be no #because im like wait. why would i take advice from someone who has a public Instagram account #im not saying a stopped clock isn’t right twice a day but really how much of my perspective and life experiences can they share in #when we have this totally totally mismatched worldview #(i mean this also applies to basically anyone offering any type of life advice who isn’t catholic about that) #(but when they are Catholics doing this that gives me slightly more pause for obvious reasons I’m like we are on the same team though?) #(and we are but only kind of and i do not have to listen to you because being an Instagram influencer is still cringe in 99% of cases.)

[idiosyncraticrednebula]

People who say that Beauty and the Beast (1991) endorses Stockholm Syndrome and domestic abuse have very grossly missed the entire point of the story.

#disney #beauty and the beast #meta #disney meta #txt #belle was never abused once by the beast in the movie. he was really just a jerk #y'all do realize that there are people who are jerks that aren't necessarily abusive #now they might have a higher inclination for it but no beast never abused her #the scene where he lost his temper was supposed to show how much beastly nature was having a hold on him and he immediately showed regret #afterwards. as soon as belle called him out on his bad temper he never tried any other shit ever again #y'all really think that if he was abusive he would have redeemed himself THAT quickly? #again he did act like an ass but he was not an abuser. i don't think he woulda even been able to stomach doing something to her #unintentionally or not #the entire point of the story is that despite him literally being a beast belle was able to see “beauty” in him #she was able to look past that and see that he was actually a good person but that he just needed to improve himself #see belle wasn't a “i can fix him” type. she was the inspiration for him to become a better individual #being with her made him feel things he probably never felt before. he felt loved wanted desired #that is what he needed but had stayed away from because of his own insecurities #which is also why this discussion about whether he was hot in his human form or not is irrelevant in the end #belle loved him for who he was and she probably thought he was the most beautiful man in the whole world both visually and spiritually #also beast respected and loved belle. gaston only lusted her and saw her as a pontential trophy wife to boost his social status #you see gaston and beast are actually quite similar in the beginning #but the thing is that beast has virtues that gaston lacks #beast also wanted belle just to break a spell although he did try to show her humanity to show that there was an emotional complex human #being but he did genuinely fall in love with her and let her go. he sacrificed himself and his servants because he truly loved her #gaston would have never done that before he was already too far gone in his fixation with being the BEST #anyways #i have gone long enough about this but you get my point

[fictionadventurer]

Zachary Taylor is kind of the American Civil War version of Bilbo Baggins--the somewhat eccentric man whose adventures were a prequel that set up the main conflict of the next generation and became the lore that everyone used to frame their response to the war.

This means that Andrew Jackson is American history's Fëanor--a fiery, charismatic, problematic figure who everyone in the future of American politics has to define themselves as either for or against.

Abraham Lincoln is the Civil War's Gandalf--a tall, shabby figure who people underestimate because he appears doddering and harmless and likes hanging out "the little people", until he proves to have hidden abilities to lead a group of vastly different personalities through a dangerous conflict.

Ulysses S. Grant could be a candidate for Frodo--Bilbo's heir who learns from and idolizes him--but surprisingly, I think he's a better fit for Samwise Gamgee--the thoroughly common man who served under Bilbo, who insists upon having a part in the war, and proves to have a vital role in ending it because of his wells of sheer dogged determination (and who is more willing than Frodo is to use violence along the way). Plus, his nickname actually is Sam, and like Sam, the name we know him by turns out to be a translation and his real name is something different. And he's very devoted to his wife and children.

Purely based on "relationship to the Bilbo character", the best candidate for the Frodo role might be Taylor's son-in-law Jefferson Davis, which is absolutely wild. He was related to and respected Taylor and was reported to have been heavily influenced by his approach to military matters.

Under this framework, the other hobbits roles should be filled by military figures, but I don't know enough to cast anybody.

There is no Aragorn figure, which is why Reconstruction went as poorly as it did.

#*security comes in and drags me from the lecture hall* #history is awesome #presidential talk #why yes i did lay awake thinking about this #(i couldn't sleep because of my long and late sunday nap) #and now i must inflict the results upon you all #what is tumblr for if not to discuss such insane crossovers #these parallels are another layer to my theory that the civil war was to america what wwi was to europe #a conflict that became much more massive than expected because of new technology #that decimated and traumatized a generation and forced them to grapple with what this means for humanity and morality #and caused a spike in spiritualism

[age-of-moonknight]

House of M: Avengers (Vol. 1/2007), #5.

Writer: Christos N. Gage; Penciler: Mike Perkins; Inker: Andrew Hennessy; Colorist: Raul Trevino; Letterer: Rus Wooton

#Marvel #Marvel comics #Marvel 58163 #House of M: Avengers #Moon Knight comics #Moon Knight #Marc Spector #Iron Fist #Danny Rand #I guess I wanted to give these panels their own post because there’s just….something about them I wanted to discuss more #this is diving dangerously close to «personal opinion» territory (so please feel free to ignore all that follows) #but I guess I just wish this point had been developed a bit more because for the past 5 issues Marc’s refused to change because the cowl’s #«spiritual significant» to him and I’m (again personally) of the idea that something that important to someone is not easily foregone #idk this is probably stemming more from the long conversations I’ve had about «when outward displays of faith become dangerous #when should you start changing what you do? Should you ever? Is it a greater show of faith to continue on despite the danger? #Do you only practice in secret? Or is doing whatever you must to survive a greater show of endurance #living and working to make the necessary changes within the system so that one day you might be able to practice openly in peace?» #sorry for getting philosophical and sorry for being perhaps unfair to a friggin comic book particularly for a minor character #but I’m feeling a little uncharitable because I was dodging violence against women/close up shots of women’s rears this entire series #(if this post looks a little weirdly cropped it’s because I chose to exclude the panel where unlike what Danny + Marc get here #there’s a very male-gaze look at Angela and Felicia undressing) #and again! (at least on that second point because that might have been entirely Perkins’ doing) I might be being a little unfair #but that sort of content doesn’t inspire me to believe that the creators were asking complex questions when they had Marc hang up his #spiritually significant hood but maybe were thinking things like «is spirituality really /that/ significant compared to tactical efficacy?» #something that…gets me when about a guy who has demonstrated that spirituality is uniquely/complexly important to him #anyway this is entirely my opinion on something that is very much up to reader interpretation so please ignore me rambling #(and quite possibly simply blowing things completely out of proportion) in the tags hahaha

[iscariotapologist]

yesterday my therapist asked me if i've ever thought about being a nun......boy ☠️ if you only knew

#he said some other things that i thought were kind of shitty and frankly he's on thin fucking ice with me. but this was funny #he'll ask me if i have anyone to discuss spiritual things with and Well yeah i have a tumblr blog and my big brained mutuals but #i'm not about to explain the concept of tumblr to this semiretired terminally offline buddhist man #me

[mamaangiwine]

Calling oneself a 'witch' does not imply inherent virtue. Two people who use the word 'witch' as a self-descriptor do not necessarily hold the same values. It is a (now) neutral self-identifier, and it means different things to different people.

In fact, there are people who call themselves a 'witch' for use of its more treacherous connotations: They like cursing people for no reason. They like using their craft to disrupt and harm. They like applying their magic to hateful ends. For these kinds of people, that is what being a 'witch' is about; and they feel the word allows them to act outside the realm of human decency.

Do not assume that other people are automatically aligned with you just because they call themselves a 'witch'.

#honestly #same goes for 'wizard' 'sorcerer' and any other spiritual title #we had a Q anon 'shaman' over here in the united states #magic #folk magic #spirituality #magic practitioners #witchblr #witchcraft #discussion #wizards #sorcerers

[itscoldinwonderland]

White western atheist love to try and athe-ize and secularize non-white religions. They will say things like "buddhism isn't a religion and they don't believe in god, it's just a philosophy really" and then a Buddhist will respond "actually Buddhism is a religion and we don't really consider ourselves atheist and we have spiritual beliefs that involve mysticism", then the atheist will try to convince the Buddhist that they don't know their own religion. This isn't even specific to Buddhism, I've seen this with Hinduism and even Judaism and with belief systems like pantheism (which litterally has theism in the name). It's wild idk.

#text post #theism #religion #spirituality #buddhism #im no longer Buddhist but ya that happened a lot to me #the Buddhist way of thinking would say that the opinon of others trying to define your beliefs are not relevant #which is why you wont see many Buddhist engaging in discussion on if buddhism is s religion bc it doesn't matter what you call it #but just so we clear it is..

[crazycatsiren]

Witchblr, tell me one book that has had profound influence on your craft (or any aspect of it), your practice (or any area of it), your spirituality, your witchcraft journey, you as a witch.

I have Modern Tarot by Michelle Tea to thank for becoming a better tarot reader.

#mother witch ramblings #witchblr #witches of tumblr #witch community #witchcraft #magic #spirituality #discussion