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wednesdayday · 10 months
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seeing people from all over the world loving a slav band (joker out) is really so important for me, cause i have always been a bit shamed to be a slav person because, you know, the slav discrimination and all that. but seeing that even a slavic band and people can be appreciated and loved really means the world to me and it makes me proud to be a slav
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cringelordofchaos · 2 months
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(tw mentions of n*zis and hitler's slavophobia and a mention of antisemitism)
funny how many nazi signs you can find drawn by stupid kids on the streets in Serbia like dude you know that guy literally hated everyone except very specific ppl. including us
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There's a whole Wikipedia article abt it lmao
(I personally wouldn't call anti-slavic sentiment racism bc being Slavic isnt a race but whateva)
Like dude. That guy wouldn't have liked us. I mean obviously even if he would drawing such signs shouldn't be done at all but u r just stupid on another level.
I'm not trying to make that war period all about us btw. Obviously we weren't treated as badly as many other ethnic groups but hitler still didnt like us.
Whatever. Can stupid ppl at my school stop trying so hard to be edgy. I'm so tired
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aristotels · 2 years
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im gonna go ahead and say it.
discrimination of slavs isnt xenophobia. its straight up racism.
there’s apparently a character in craig of the creek who is slavic and - the joke is - that he’s a dumb slav! ha ha ha! speaks about himself in third person and is a bully, which is so slavic, isn’t it? its hilarious. especially when you consider the history of slavic people, which i’ll shortly summarize here, with some quotes.
xenophobia is thinking someones national costumes are funny, or that their dish smells foul. in slav case, its different. slavs have always been racially discriminated, murdered, enslaved, and whichever history period you take, youll see it.
in fact, its so prominent that word “slave” literally comes from “Slav”. you can read about the root of the word here: American Heritage Dictionary
whatever period you take, you’ll find discrimination of slavic people. especially in nazis and fascists cases. prosecuted on the same level as jews, back then. the difference was that slavs were “too stupid and barbaric” and preys to “masonic jew machine”, and that they needed to be exterminated. here’s more text from wikipedia.
Count Galeazzo Ciano, Mussolini's son in law, and the Foreign Minister of Fascist Italy who was later executed by Mussolini, wrote the following entry in his diary:[9]
Vidussoni comes to see me. After having spoken about a few casual things, he makes some political allusions and announces savage plans against the Slovenes. He wants to kill them all. I take the liberty of observing that there are a million of them. "That does not matter," he answers firmly.
(slovenes in this case not refering to only slovenes from slovenia, but also all slavs.)
one of fascists politics was also forcefully italianizing croatian names during 1920es when a part of croatia was under italian control. yes. people went to prison for not wanting to change their names. ive heard plenty of stories about grandfathers from older people being taken away to camps because they refused to change their names. during that reign, hundreds of croatian schools were shut, and teaching our language was forbidden.
“When dealing with such a race as Slavic – inferior and barbaric – we must not pursue the carrot, but the stick policy. We should not be afraid of new victims. The Italian border should run across the Brenner Pass, Monte Nevoso and the Dinaric Alps. I would say we can easily sacrifice 500,000 barbaric Slavs for 50,000 Italians.”
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Benito Mussolini
nazis had exactly the same stance, with policy of exterminating slavs so germans could inhabit the slavic lands.
from wikipedia:
The Nazis' policy towards Slavs was to exterminate or enslave the vast majority of the Slavic population and repopulate their lands with millions of ethnic Germans and other Germanic peoples.
of course, slav people were also targeted by KKK:
In Canada, many xenophobic white supremacists were deeply tied to their nation's "Anglo-Saxon" culture, specifically from the early 1900s to the end of World War II. The Ku Klux Klan in Canada was prominent in the provinces of Saskatchewan and Alberta, both of which have a relatively high Eastern European ethnic population. Immigrants from Ukraine, Russia and Poland were frequently denounced and targeted.[10]
During World War I, thousands of Ukrainian Canadians were seen as "enemy aliens" as Canadian nativists saw them as a "threat" to Canada's Western European heritage. Due to this, many of them were interned in concentration camps. There was constant discrimination towards Ukrainians who recently immigrated from the Austro-Hungarian Empire.[11]
and even though this is too far away for the western europe to understand, macedonians in greece are still struggling today, with greece not recognizing macedonia as an independent state.
Today, the Greek state does not recognize its ethnic Macedonian and other Slavic minorities, claiming that they do not exist, with Greece therefore having the right not to grant them any of the rights that are guaranteed to them by human rights treaties.
yes. you read that correctly. greece does not recognize macedonian or other slav minorities and can choose not to grant them any rights guaranteed by human rights treaties. read that again. and again.
slavic people are rarely shown in media. because we are not important enough. to the west, we are some silly little people living in the balkans and arguing with each other and going to wars over silly things. the only times slavs appear in media is russian spies or other villains. which you know; slavs are a much more diverse race than just “russia”. and in fact, russia has controlled and exploited many slavic countries.
and when we ARE shown in media, its not much better. i have never seen a proper slavic representation. in literally all the cases of slavs appearing on the screen, they are illiterate, stupid, and cannot speak language.
casa de papel. viktor krum.
craig of the creek.
in every single piece of media ive ever seen, slavs have been portrayed as barbaric idiots. the way weve been portrayed for hundreds of years. in fact, craig goes so far to basically show a slav person being a lapdog to a white american. with the character speaking in third person and being dumb.
we dont fucking speak in the third person. it doesnt make sense in our language. its a racist and stereotypical portrayal, and the best thing is that nobody seems to care. the media has made good progress with stopping to make fun of black, latino and asian people, but you know who you can always make fun of?
slavs.
because you know.
its just some silly little dumb people.
living far away.
and not a race which has historically been undermined, hunted, placed in concentration camps, attacked, and enslaved.
im getting kinda fucking sick of it. yall should reblog this.
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I hate when people - mostly Americans - feel like they have the right to shit on Slavs just because we're white. (Which is not true btw, I know a lot of POC Slavs).
Like, yeah our countries are a bit behind, you know why?! BECAUSE WEST NEVER BOTHERED TO HELP US, THEY ONLY EXPLOITED US.
Yeah, some of us live in horrible conditions without running water and bathroom in the house. Why? Because even now no one bothers to help them.
Yeah, many Slavs don't like foreigners. Why? Because of generational trauma that happened less than 80 years ago.
Yeah, many Slavs are uneducated because they didn't have the opportunity to get proper education.
But we're not primitive subhumans as many treat us. We're not inferior.
And when we speak up about our issues, when we want to educate others so they stop harming us with stupid stereotypes, WHEN WE DEMAND BASIC RESPECT FOR A HUMAN BEING
What happens then?
We're called delusional. We're being said that "we just want to steal attention from actual problems because we're all racist pigs", we're being told that our issues aren't that big, right? We're white, so we have sooo many privileges, we definitely weren't oppressed throughout the centuries
Rant over
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nachoaveragejoe234 · 2 months
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Since I had to block a bozo who defends the hate of Russian civilians, (redjaybathood), here is proof of anti-Russian sentiment towards civilians, it's not propaganda and you ain't a tankie for calling it out.
OK, so I have to respond. Firstly, my criticism doesn't mean "I think Putin's behaviour is the right thing."
Let me ask you something. Why don't you lame Chinese civilians for their government? Why don't you call them names? Their leader is also a communist who threatens other countries. Why aren't Chinese civilians considered tankies? Why don't North Korean civilians get treated like they're part of the problem? Cherry picking.
Next, you're literally doing what the OP and many other people are calling out. Hating the civilians for existing and living in a dictatorship.
And since you freaked that I didnt send the links even though you can look it up yourself (meaning you're lazy), fine. Here we go. Now let's see if you try to accuse me of lying. This is the sentiment that lead to the Japanese internment camps which everyone agrees were wrong, but I know people would cheer for Russian ones. There's a LOT of Russia-bashing, believe it or not.
And serious actual hate crimes and attacks. All called "propaganda" by bigots.
That's arson if you don't speak German.
If a foreign minister needs to call you out, it's not propaganda.
NOTE: Dubs being put on hiatus, Russian non politial products like snacks and drinks being removed or given WARNINGS in stores, none of that happens to other "evil" countries like China. Selective outrage? I'd say so. And literal paragraphs about hate from the Wiki page.
All of these are civilians who are being treated like shit on the ASSUMPTION that if you're Russian, you must hate peace. Dictators are not the people. People are brainwashed. You don't have the right to judge the peopleof a dictatorship because they aren't born evil, they're taught to obey the dictator. It happened with Hitler. It happened with Stalin. It happened with Mussolini. It happened with Pol Pot. It happened with Milosevic. It happened with Hirohito. It happens with Xi. It happens with Kim Jong Un. Why is it that when it happens with Putin, and ONLY with Putin, are the civilians suddenly just as problematic as the leader? You can't judge an entire nationality based on a select number of people you've seen who agree (or pretend to agree, as many may not actually agree but pretend. If all you view them as is cowards, but you don't hold the same values to other citizens of dictatorships, you are in fact, a BIGOT and it's not problematic or propaganda or false to say so. I made myself very clear. If you still disagree that's your problem and you are a toxic person. Jesus fucking Christ)
Tell me again how being Russian automatically makes you a bad person and how civilians aren't victims just because they are living in a corrupt country. You judge the entire population based on what fringe nationalists and some brainwashed people say. Blanket statements about an entire nationality or race are NOT okay. Peoplewho criticizes this aren't automatically pro-tyranny. Not that you care or believe that.
As a bonus, let's talk about how America and Canada (my country) used to HATE UKRAINE, and they had Ukrainian internment camps.
Your reaction to this should NOT be "I don't think Ukrainians deserve peace". BOTH RUSSIA AND UKRAINE DESERVE PEACE AND TO BE FREE FROM HATE. THE HATE GOES IN ALL DIRECTIONS. THAT'S THE REASON WAR IS A THING. PUTIN NEEDS TO STOP FIGHTING. PEOPLE NEED TO STOP JUDGING CITIZENS OF A DICTATORSHIP FOR BEING FROM A DICTATORSHIP. THE MORE RUSSIANS THAT CALL OUT PUTIN ANY WAY THEY CAN THE BETTER. ALL OF THESE STATEMENTS CAN AND SHOULD CO-EXIST AND I YOU DON'T THINK SO, YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM. "BUT THEIR LEADER!" "BUT I'M UKRAINIAN" "BUT LISTEN TO WHAT PEOPLE SAY" "SHUT UP TANKIE" "ORC/RUZZIAN AREN'T SLURS THEY'RE TRUE". ARE NOT EXCUSES. The orcs and Ruzzians are Putin and his lackeys, not the people who live in said tyrant's cities. Obviously people should help Ukraine, that's absolutely fine. But people should not do or say anything the people above have said. It's pretty easy to find out of touch comments on Twitter and Quora that blanket the entire population as the same "evil commie tankie orc zombies". People calling out this stuff aren't trying to make a competition of "who has it worse" when in fact war harms EVERYONE.
That's all I can say. Don't like this? Then you should really think.
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aquafantasia · 2 years
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While I do understand why Dracula is a very famous book and very influential in modern depictions of vampires and pop culture in general, I don’t want people to ignore the offensive caricatures of Slavic people present in the book nor how the character of Dracula is heavily coded with offensive stereotypes of Jewish, Roma and Slavic people especially with how the discrimination of the latter two is rarely if ever discussed so please bare that in mind while reading it 
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mountielle · 1 year
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just an FYI: slavs didn't get enslaved, lose their each respective country's freedom, get stereotyped into dumb caricatures made by Europeans wanted to represent us as some horrific beasts that "must be tamed" TO THIS DAY STILL, considered just as lowly during h*tler's regime as Jews and black people, weren't forbidden from speaking our own language and hanging our own flags, and so much more, just so you could either ignore slavophobia or claim that white racism extends to celts and celts only
slavophobia exists, and is very much alive, acknowledge it
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sehiriti · 2 years
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also yeah slavs do experience xenophobia from the west, you lot just never notice until we point it out. because lord forbid my mother having an accent when she’s speaking her third language in switzerland and having to be degraded for a slight mistake and almost having the cops called on her because ‘that slavic woman looks suspicious and i don’t like that’. we are either forced to forget our accent or hide it so well nobody can figure out where we’re from because we are seen as a stereotype. first thing they say when you tell them you are slavic is ‘oh thank god you’re one of the good/smart/pretty ones, not like those villains i know the rest of them are. you’re special, and you should feel honoured i excluded you from your group, because that means i respect you, unless you say anything that might make me feel bad for doing so, then you’re just like the rest of them, whore.’
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egopathic · 2 years
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american neolibs refusing to hide their fascism anymore.
from r/shitliberalssay
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greayworks · 2 years
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Remember that people in Russia have been protesting against Putin for years with 2020 having on of the largest protests after rigging yet another election, he’s stolen the vast majority of their wealth, has turned the country into a authoritarian police state where thousands who speak out have been arrested.
But people in Russia have continued to protest for LGBT rights, to end corrupt elections, and for the war to end, you just haven’t noticed cause it didn’t effect you.
I get that most people on tumblr may not get what it’s like to be born into a dictatorship and are in general a ignorant people, but seeing people on here justify their racism by saying stuff like, “All the Russians fleeing actually pro war and racist, they just don’t want to fight” or “They should have just overthrown Putin” is genuinely disgusting and a borderline repeat of the Red Scare
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gwydionmisha · 1 year
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The [Queer] Politics of Eurovision
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aristotels · 2 years
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Every anti-Slavic/anti-Eastern European depiction in North American media I can think of (not counting the spy movies like James Bond and Austin Powers)
Rocky movies - Ivan Drago is just "the big bad Russian" and we're meant to take it seriously.
Taken - Basically "Big Strong Eagle Daddy Must Save His Damsel Daughter from The Albanian Mafia Barbarians".
Hostel - Slovakia is full of people who'll scam, lure in, and torture tourists at will
Are You Afraid of the Dark? (Canadian) - I love this show, but the episode "The Tale of the Nightly Neighbours" doesn't sit right with me because it basically portrays the new Ukrainian family moving in next door as Satanists who hide their evil plans during the day but at night hunt people down for their dark magic. Luckily, they never pulled a "Slavic cult" thing again, so the series is good but if you want to watch it, skip that episode so you don't insult yourself.
Emily in Paris - This show is known for mocking everybody who's not American and straight: French, gay, Chinese, Black, Latinos... and Ukrainians in season 2 with Petra being the joke.
Monster High G3: Turned Draculaura and Abbey into Filipino and Indian which isn't the problem, but made them Americans when they're supposed to be Romanian and Russian. It was cherry picking because the other character racebent was made Colombian when she was Australian. But the Slavic girls are Americanized. Suspicious...
Hannibal Lecter is a Lithuanian cannibal, but this may not bother you depending on who you ask.
Orphan: Esther arguably promotes anti-Estonian sentiment with her being a psychotic serial killer who escaped an asylum and has the body of a child, which she uses to manipukate parents. She even (IN HER KID BODY!!!) takes on the role of a femme fatale in one scene.
I have found multiple good or more positive portrayals of Slavs that I can tell you in another post but I just wanted to get this off my chest. AYAOTD is specifically bad because this can easily make children discriminate against Eastern Europeans. In that episode, it's not like "they're evil demons/witches who happen to be Ukrainian" it's almost like "we do that in Ukraine, that's normal". They even say themselves they're from Ukraine. Yeaaaaahhhh.
thank you for your input!
i havent seen good/positive portrayals anywhere. all ive seen has been very negative usually, or even if theyre positive characters (like in casa de papel, where there was a serbian guy who was great) theyre still portrayed as not speaking english (spanish) and being basal or dumb.
i've added some more examples to my post https://aristotels.tumblr.com/post/690582106573799424/discrimination-of-slavs-isnt-xenophobia-its
and there is the thing that made me write the post, craig of creek where the russian boy speaks about him in third person and is a dumb big bully, which is really offensive.
btw if anyone has any more examples, let me know or tag me. i really want people to start taking this issue seriously.
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Fun fact, most xenophobia and racism (slavophobia) that I experience online isn't from white people
Some POC act as if me being white means that they can be xenophobic and discriminative towards me :)
And no, it's not "payback" for what my ancestors did (actually they did nothing. Historically, Slavs have nothing to do with slavery I mean they do cuz slavs were the first slaves ever but yk what I mean) it's just slavophobia and sense of entitlement.
Like bro, why when I spoke up about my issues, oppression and discrimination as a slav on tiktok, people (like I said, mostly POC) had to run to my comments, call me race-related insults, tell me that my culture is boring and not even worth of appropriation or that my traditional food is disgusting or that slavs are not capable of understanding "real oppression" or that we never been oppressed. Why? Because we're white (which is not true, I know many POC slavs)
Also I'm not saying that all POC are like this or that I don't experience Slavophobia from white people
rant over
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