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aceofwhump · 1 year
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Hey Ace, hope you have a fantastic weekend! If you are busy then feel free to ignore this ask.
I was wondering, can you think of any scenes in shows or movies where one character is being tortured or hurt while their friend or another character is forced to watch and isn't able to help them? Something like season 1, episode 12 of the Following when Mike gets kidnapped and Ryan tries to help him through the glass. I enjoy this trope because of the comfort and aftercare afterwards!
Hi nonny! That is an excellent trope! I have several examples for you. Enjoy!
Hawaii Five-0 6x01, 10x22
Hudson & Rex 3x09
Stargate Atlantis 3x07
Chicago PD 3x01
Castle 3x13
NCIS 7x01
Supergirl 2x07
Teen Wolf 3x04, 4x01
NCIS: Los Angeles 5x01
Stargate SG-1 5x07
Sense8 2x11 and show finale movie
Legends of Tomorrow 1x05
Killjoys 1x05
Supernatural 1x22
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stargatevp · 2 years
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Sun. 28th of August SG-1 6x01 Redemption (part 1). Host:  @angelblaze
Time:  3pm EST / 8pm GMT / 9pm CEST
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PSA regarding summer schedule: This is a reminder that for the duration of the summer, we will hold only 1 VP per week. You can read all about it in this post.
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gatecast · 1 year
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Stargate SG-1 6x01 - "Redemption: Part 1" Reaction
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cinnonym · 3 years
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Okay, I couldn't resist, here's a little 6x01 angst piece, whoops:
"He's gonna try to kill you, alright?" Lena's voice has taken on a desperate tone as she approaches Kara, fixing her under one of her unbreakable stares. There's an urgency in her that reminds Kara of before - of Mercy Graves and "The safest place for you to be right now is with me", of Kaznia and "There's no need to be afraid, okay?" - an urgency that Kara hasn't heard for a long time, and that rings differently now, after... everything.
"I won't let you turn this into a suicide mission," Lena insists, and Kara's heart flutters at the determination behind her words. "I can't."
She looks like she's about to add something else, her lips parted - stop looking at her mouth, Kara - but then she seems to think better of it and falls silent, letting her eyes, wide and imploring, do the talking for her. It is a stroke of genius, Kara gives her that. She has never been able to resist Lena when she looks at her like that. Like Kara doesn't have to be a hero now, that all Lena asks of her is to be Kara, to be her friend, to be -
"Why not?" She asks, her words sounding weirdly hollow in the wide space between them. She didn't mean to say them - the weight of the world is on her shoulders, after all, today and always - but she cannot help it. For once in her life, she doesn't find it in her to be selfless. "Why can't you let me go?"
She makes sure that the challenge is clear in the way she meets Lena's gaze, locking her in a silent stalemate. Daring her to pull back. To look away. Expecting her to, even. Because this is Lena she's talking to, and if Kara has walls, then Lena has a fortress. And Kara's given her every reason to keep the drawbridges up.
Indeed, Lena's gaze flickers. Her heartrate picks up, thrumming in Kara's ears when she focuses on it, and when Lena shrugs, the soft fabric of her suit seems to crackle like air before a thunderstorm. But she doesn't look away.
"Because I just got you back," she says, voice raw with truth and something more, something like... Stubbornness?
"Lena..." Kara isn't sure if she means to stop her or ask her to continue, but she reaches out without thinking. Their hands touch, and it's like old times - comforting, a little exhilarating, *warm* - but also more. It's history and it's present and it's the glaring absence of future, because Kara is still Supergirl. They both know she will choose sacrifice no matter what Lena is about to say.
"I don't want to live without you," Lena whispers anyway, eyes shining with tears. "I can't."
Kara's heart contracts painfully, a sting similar to that of kryptonite coursing through her veins. "Yes, you can." She squeezes Lena's hand, laying all her feelings into that one touch. "You will learn to."
A choked sound escapes Lena, but her hands disentangle from Kara's before Kara can try to comfort her again. She turns back towards the control panel with a swing of her ponytail that almost slaps Kara across the face, purpose radiating off her in alternating waves with the pain. The something in her voice returns full force as her fingers fly over the keyboard.
"I refuse to."
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katiemcsuper · 3 years
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some misc thoughts on 6x01:
- really enjoying lillian and her interactions w/ lex. and lex had some good moments/lines (”she killed me first”). jon cryer is great and it makes lex more tolerable even tho i don’t really want him there
- god so much supercorp
- the danvers sisters moment w stealing clothes was really cute nd sweet
- i’m annoyed that they seem to be fully landing on the “kara didn’t share her identity to protect lena” argument. i think kara’s explanation in 5x01 was the most accurate and i think it’s correct that the “protecting lena” was just an excuse bc when examined it doesn’t actually make sense. so it would be cool if they let kara make a mistake and be selfish instead of turning it back around to make kara blameless
- that said, i’m happy that everyone is reconciling. i wish it wasn’t lena just accepting 100% blame and apologizing to everyone without them acknowledging how they hurt her in any way but...at least they’re not fighting
- i really wish they didn’t send kara to the phantom zone. i know part of if is bc of covid and melissa’s maternity leave, and i get that. but, that said, i really wish we didn’t have to have kara isolated and not interacting w the superfriends. hopefully it doesn’t go on super long
- they went really hard with the sc parallels, really strong with both dansen and brainia
- the fucking “lena luthor protocol” was a lot
- i was very surprised with how much i enjoyed the episode, it’s giving me a little bit of hope that this season will be good (which i’m sure will soon be crushed)
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supergay-supergirl · 3 years
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sunflowerb15 · 3 years
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controversial opinion: i thought kara was super flat this episode, she spoke really unemotionally to lena and looked at her with really zoned out eyes, it sort of felt like she was looking at william
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appropriatelystupid · 3 years
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I think I've seen this film before...
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mikereads · 3 years
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“Sometimes I wonder if you really know me, but I know what’s in your heart”- Gabrielle. 
“You want to help people. Whatever else has happened I know what’s in your heart.”- Kara. 
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kiiiiiim · 3 years
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PHANTOM ZONE TRAUMA PT. 2 HERE WE GOOOOOOOO
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galaxy-creationz · 3 years
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So on a... different note, how are we doing fellow Brainia shippers? 
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rodneymckays · 3 years
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Rodney McKay's terribly excellent fashion choices: (1/?)
Stargate SG-1 | 6x01 Redemption: Part 1
Series requested by @a-storm-of-roses
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mrs-bartowski · 3 years
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My dudes. My guys. My pals.
I’m about 10 seconds away from going feral.
So, I’m the kind of unfortunate chump whose brain requires continuity. Meaning, when I started thirst watching Supergirl during its mid-season-2 hiatus and came across the realization that it had crossovers with all the other arrowverse shows, my brain tasked me with watching them all. I won’t put you through a recount of this arduous feat, but it does leave me with the certain advantage of having immediate and full-contextual access to any parallels between supercorp and canon CW DCEU couples.
Normally, this is a good thing, because it’s just another crumb to obsess over. But I just finished watching Legends 6x02 and...I. AM. FUMING.
I literally don’t even know where to start, but know that if you’ve made it this far you’re in for a long ride because my entire being is in Scream mode right now and I’m not sure I’ll be able to stop typing until it passes.
OKAY. So.
Meet Sara Lance (lol jk y’all thirsty gays know who she is I mean look at this flawless human)
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Next, meet her ******* Ava Sharpe (who is literally the definition of white European beauty standards-based perfection because she’s a clone from the future)
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And finally, meet Gary Green. He’s...well, he’s Gary.
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Sara started out on Arrow and is now the captain of the Legends. Ava was the director of the Time Bureau and Gary was an agent, and now they are also members of the Legends. Sara has been there (and been the show’s effective lead) since season 1. Ava and Gary both came in at the beginning of season 3. 
Gary is (as pictured) an absolute fool, but he is also kind of regarded as the one the Legends Must Protecc. The whole team is considered a family, and, while they are not necessarily labeled as best friends, Gary has been Ava’s longest and most loyal companion, and Sara has a way of adopting him because she’s the best equipped to keep him out of trouble.
So, why is all of this relevant to why I want to go feral? Because it sounds a bit familiar, yes? Member of the team that is somewhat a black sheep, doesn’t get included fully or all the time but often comes in with save-the day type shit (even though with Gary it’s more of a distraction than a save because he’s a mess of a man). Close friend to one of our two main heroes and, subsequently, that hero’s closest companion puts them at the top of their Protecc list. Has little faith in his relationships with the team so he is constantly going out of his way to help in whatever way he can to prove his usefulness. And so on and so forth.
Well, 6x01 marks exactly 3 years since Gary’s first appearance, and what did we find out in that episode? That Gary is an alien. And not just any alien - an alien who was sent (by the woman he was traded to) to get close to Sara because she has been labeled as one of the world’s most dangerous creatures. Not to mention, his species of alien feeds on humans (not him of course, he’s reformed, but nonetheless not a friendly species). And we find out all of this because he and his master abduct her.
Sara finds out in person while Ava and the rest of the Legends solve the mystery on their own. Now, I’ve drawn a lot of comparisons between Lena and Gary to make a point about the time frame and nature of their relationships, but let’s take a look at Sara, shall we? For starters, she’s been “dead” either literally or supposedly about...what, 15 times now? If you think that’s an exaggeration, here’s the link to her fan wiki which says she’s been presumed dead 10 times and actually dead 5. The sg writers tried to sell season 5 as “the fight for Lena’s soul” but Sara LITERALLY LOST HER SOUL when she got resurrected in the Lazarus pit. 90% of Sara’s character development has been based on her certainty that she is too close to death and evil and destruction (getting possessed by a demon, perhaps, had something to do with this?). She was an actual literal assassin and she has left civilization out of anger and pain to go back to that life once before.
She has always believed that she is too dangerous to have real love or relationships or friends. And now she has found and built and led this family through time and space and she’s done so with this goofball by her side that is endearingly attached to the love of her life. So, how does she react when she finds out Gary is an alien? Well, clearly, she goes down a dark path, right? She cries and screams and talks about betrayal because she’s had such a hard time with feeling like she only ever puts the people she loves in danger and now here she is finding out there’s been a human-eating alien in her family for three years that was tasked with observing her and keeping her in check because she is exactly that dangerous?
Yeah...try again. This is how Sara reacts:
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And then there's another scene that apparently no one even bothered to put on YouTube where you can see the pain in Sara's eyes when she asks him “why me?” You can see how hurt she is that after 3 years she’s just finding out that their friendships is based on lies and that she has trouble keeping her faith in it. But in both of these instances where are the “crocodile tears?” Where are the fearful, shaky confessions from Gary about his fear of losing the only people who have ever really loved or cared about him and desperate justifications about how he just wanted to protect them and keep them in the dark so his master didn’t come after them? Where is the outrage from Sara about how everything Gary has reassured her about over the past three years when she was scared to let the damaged-soul assassin inside of her out was a lie and he doesn’t get to tell her who or what she is again? Where is the determination from Ava to make Gary pay for not only lying for three years but for ABDUCTING THE LOVE OF HER LIFE TO HAND OVER TO A FLESH-EATING ALIEN??????
Nowhere. Those things...they’re nowhere. There’s anger. There’s pain. There’s doubt and heartbreak and fury. There’s betrayal and helplessness and desperation. But there is no scene with Sara standing on a balcony and Gary looking up at her longingly because he wants to talk to her about the secret and he knows it will change everything between them. There is no scene with Sara and Ava lamenting over what this means for Gary and the team and the world because he’s no longer the person they knew. There are no romantically-scored scenes of them looking teary-eyed at the pictures they took together or reassurances that the others’ intentions are good and trustworthy now that the truth is out in the open. There is nothing to imply that the last several years of friendship are now entirely suspect (damaged, frayed, clouded, maybe, but definitely not voided) because Gary kept this secret to protect them. And Gary isn’t made to feel obscenely guilty or shameful because his intentions were good and he only did what he felt he had to. But most of all, the world doesn’t feel like it’s going to end.
And I’m not talking about we’re now scared Gary will take his master’s side or Sara will suddenly decide that she never wants an alien to fool her or hurt her again so she’s going to make sure he doesn’t have the choice. I’m just talking about the way they address each other. There are no sobbing tears or laments over the biggest mistakes of their lives - even though it’s quite possible Gary could see this as his. There are no screaming matches over betrayal and mistrust and years of doubt and confusion. There will be no episode dedicated to going back and seeing what could have happened - what kind of danger they could have avoided from the alien(s) controlling Gary - had he told them the truth sooner because that’s the only way to save him and the world. There will be no episode where he has to single-handedly save them multiple times as some example of redemption. There will be no adamant looks and declarations about how the team knows his intentions were good and they forgive him. There won’t be any of that. Because Sara is not in love with Gary. And Ava is not in love with Gary. And Gary is not in love with either Sara or Ava. They’re just close friends. Family. Loved ones who mean a lot to each other but whose betrayal and seeds of doubt don’t bring on emotions whose force and ferocity could be acceptable for finding out the apocalypse is nigh.
I have many, many more feelings about this but right now I’m going to go write things that will make me feel better and not things that make me want to gather every writer from every CW show in a line and run down the line smacking them all in the face while the Legends writers watch and cheer. But I’m fuming. THIS is what it looks like when a years-long, heavily weighted lie is revealed between close friends/family. So, in conclusion, Supercorp endgame or die.
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I guess if it makes me a bad person to say I had zero issues with Lena killing Lex then I am a bad person.
Like, are we all forgetting that Kara was trying to save Lex, he managed to wiggle his arm free and fall. And sure, he did that so he could escape but Kara did not know that. She didn't make any effort to try and catch him and she totally could have. She has superspeed.
She chose not to and I'm not upset with that at all. Kara also spent what I'm assuming is weeks if not months thinking that she helped kill her best friend's brother and felt no type of way about it (at least what was shown). And when she finally finds out that Lena killed Lex, she still doesn't care! She wanted to burn a hole through Lex's head during crisis and I guarantee you if the monitor hadn't stepped in, she would've done it. And no one would've made a single noise.
But Lena isn't a hero so automatically her killing Lex, a psychopath hellbent on genocide and world domination mind you, will still be perceived by some people as "bad" and her being "evil". Like yea she killed the man who turned the red sun, murdered dozens of people, took advantage of red daughter and then discarded her like trash, experimented horrifically on aliens, was about to blow Argo up just to kill one person (and I could go on and on) and I'm supposed to be reprimanding Lena about that? Yea no.
I bet you if it were Alex or Kara or even J'onn, they wouldn't say a damn thing. Because they're heroes and therefore infallible. But everything Lena does, good or bad, is under scrutiny. How dare she be flawed and not self righteous like the rest of them.
Remember Alex killing Astra when she could have stabbed her anywhere nonlethal and still save J'onn? She claims to be an expert on xenobiology, I'm sure she knows exactly where to stab a Kryptonian without killing them but we barely talk about that. We also don't talk about her trigger happy attitude towards Julia Freeman and other aliens on the show.
Also remember J'onn killing Manchester Black? Not because he was causing problems but because the man taunted him with a vision of his family. Now that was genuinely disturbing. Even Kara was like wtf?? But it's brushed under the rug. No one talks about it because J'onn is a hero. That death was not at all justified. MB was a heartbroken man grieving in all the wrong ways. He needed help. Plus J'onn disarmed him!
And yes, Lex was unarmed too when Lena shot him. But he's already proven that the prison system is a joke and that he can and will continuously try to eliminate Kara, aliens and Lena too because he feels betrayed by her defiance. Short of yeeting him into the PZ, there was no protection. Plus he knew SG's identity and would've used it to escape like he tried to in 6x01. Only this time they'd be fucked cuz Lena would not have had myriad and J'onn doesn't seem to have the balls to mind wipe people by force even when necessary.
The only death Lena caused that I felt sad about was Adam. But even that, tragic as it was, was not totally on Lena. Sure the procedure and setup and even the recruitment was shady asf but Lena was 100% transparent about the risks when she didn't have to be. And she shouldn't have let the guy convince her to do it when she wasn't uncomfortable but she did and that's not fully on her. He was a consenting adult fully aware of the dangers.
I'm not saying that killing Lex didn't backfire because it absolutely did. But that's due to shitty writing. Lex was not needed during crisis. He wasn't. You have Lena and Brainy, arguably the smartest people in the Arrowverse and barely utilize them? Especially Brainy, the 12th level intellect Coluan from the future.
And unfortunately killing Lex on top of finally being forced to see Kara's secret, made Lena snap and spiral. So if it's to avoid that then yea, Lena shouldn't have killed him. But let's not pretend that Lena killed a saint or even a halfway decent person. His own mother who was championing his craziness before also tried to killed him and was unapologetic about it.
Lex was a huge problem that needed to be eliminated. Putting him in prison is equivalent to letting him go. Only a DEO prison might've worked but that can't happen because he's a human and high profile. You can't just make him disappear like that. So he would've returned to murdering more innocent people and tormenting aliens, an already demonized group. Lena handled it like she does everything else and while I was shocked, I wasn't mad about it. As Katie said in that interview, Lex deserved it.
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occidentaltourist · 3 years
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To me SG lost any kind of through line for character and relationship beats long ago. The Alex Lena scenes this last ep, I enjoy them when I think of that friendship from fics or fandom hc but from the show itself? Makes no sense, but both are canon. Same thing happens with SC sometimes, the dynamic in 6x01 gave me whiplash after s5 but I loved it. So it all comes down to how one wants to see it and take from screen. Because it's a mess everything is kinda valid
You’re right, and maybe the best way to watch the show is just to look at the moments in isolation with no expectation they’ll connect coherently to anything else, even the same characters or their relationship just an episode ago. I thoroughly enjoyed Alex and Lena’s science partners scene that way. :)
They typically do a bit better with the Luthors, at least with each other if not anyone else. But yeah, maybe time to lower expectations for Kara and Lena’s friendship too. 
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