#seneca crane

[emptyjunior]

Still in hunger games analysis mode, do you guys ever think about what Seneca did Wrong. About where he failed at the job he was given.

Because I think what his true fatal flaw was, was he believed it. He believed in the game and all of the propoganda surrounding it.

And this was something that was bound to happen in Snow's kingdom eventually! He made citizens that were clueless and lost in his little cloud nine. You can't make killers out of your arrogant, privileged sheep population!

Seneca Crane believed that the games were about the great show, about making stars and entertaining the masses.

The cold truth that you and I and Snow are aware of, is that the games are one part of the great oppression machine. They're a good political tool to be in control of, they can be used as a punishment to target whoever you need to, you can manipulate the big show on screen in a crude mockery of what's going on in real life! You can crush the spirit of certain districts, you can keep other ones loyal to you. And the victors are an extremely valuable Product that you are endlessly creating, idols and mouthpieces for your horrible propaganda machine.

So that's what the games do! A good tool for a dictator to have, and if you're aware of all the context, then being in charge of them gives you a lot of power.

But Seneca?? Seemed to genuinely believe he was there to put on a big fancy show😭 He was so excited about it, he chatted to sponsors, he did the interviews, he picked themes😭

Like of course he gave Katniss a 12 after her stunt, he wasn't worried about the fire outfits or her popularity at All. Because he thought it'd be good ratings, and it was! That's what he thought the goal was: Get the best, most entertaining story possible.

All those talks in the Rose garden?

This was not Seneca checkin in with the boss, that was the boss saying Hey what the Fuck are You Doing.

Because Seneca truly did not understand at all! How dangerous it would look for someone from district 12 to rise up that fast! (And Snow most definitely understood Very Quickly because he has been dunked on before by a black haired girl from district 12😭)

But even after that Very explicitly clear talk, Seneca kept allowing Katniss chances to tell the Mockingjay story. Because he is a fool, who thought he was there to make tv😭 And did not realise that the silly story they tell in the games, has very real effects on the districts.

Like the metaphor for it could be you hire someone to make you maybe pro-military, pro-war, propaganda films, and that goes great for years until they get a few generations in and the new guys are like "oh we're just making popular films here right?" And let your direct rebel enemy, star in a touching depiction of how great rebellion is😭 And then your movie guy goes "how was that boss? Lots of people watched!" ☠️

#then movie guy head go bye bye #text post #seneca crane #Katniss Everdeen #peeta mellark #hunger games #president snow #ballad of songbirds and snakes #catching fire

[agir1ukn0w]

sorry but snow is such a well written iconic villain and donald sutherland performs him so fucking good it's almost hilarious how i start practically foaming at the mouth every time the man opens his mouth to say something deplorable in those movies, like he's so utterly and despicably wrong about almost every crucial thing from katniss and peeta's relationship to human nature as a whole and yet the second he starts talking about how hope is the only thing stronger than fear and how you have to allow a little hope but control it so its spark doesn't grow into revolution and how it's the things we love the most that destroy us you bet your ass i am on the floor screaming crying throwing up because that is my psychotic mustache-twirling villain RIGHT THERE

#every scene he's in is so delicious and i want it injected into my veins like heroine #as you can tell i'm quite fond of masterfully crafted villains whose monologues leave you breathless #also that part where he just tells seneca 'i like you...be careful' *EPIC CHEF'S KISS*🔥 #'hope...it is the only thing stronger than fear' #'a little hope is effective. a lot of hope is dangerous. the spark is fine as long as it's contained' #he isn't my roman empire but i do dwell on him from time to time and get shivers down my fucking spine #coriolanus snow #president snow #snow #president coriolanus snow #hunger games #the hunger games #the hunger games trilogy #thg #mockingjay #catching fire #katniss everdeen #peeta mellark #seneca crane #suzanne collins #donald sutherland

[lvcygraybaird]

THE HUNGER GAMES (2012) | THE BALLAD OF SONGBIRDS AND SNAKES (2023)

#thgedit #tbosasedit #thehungergamesedit #coriolanussnowedit #coriolanus snow #president snow #lucy gray baird #seneca crane #parallels #thggifs #thgverse #the ballad of songbirds and snakes #tbosbasedit #mygifs #mygifsets #myedits

[tending-the-hearth]

thinking about tbosas/hg parallels:

how arachne crane and seneca crane both were killed because of their own hubris and the fact that they never viewed the tributes as anything more than animals/playthings

highbottom and haymitch both having reputations of being constantly drunk/drugged and getting laughed at for it but in reality they’re like that in order to deal with the trauma of leading so many innocent children to their deaths

sejanus and peeta showing mercy to a person in their district and that moment changing the course of their lives to the point where they both join a rebellion because they recognize the realities of what the capitol is doing

ALSO sejanus and peeta being pulled into a rebellion because of their desire to help a woman from disctric 12 be free

#the ballad of songbirds and snakes #the hunger games #the highbottom and haymitch parallels make me feral #tbosas spoilers #aranche crane #seneca crane #casca highbottom #haymitch abernathy #sejanus plinth #peeta mellark

[mockingjay-sings]

THE HUNGER GAMES (2012) dir. Gary Ross

#the intro of the first movie is just so chilling #the hunger games #hunger games #caesar flickerman #seneca crane #katniss everdeen #prim everdeen #moviegifs #thgedit #filmgifs #mockingjaygifs #gifhungergames #thg #thg edit #the hunger games edit #hunger games edit #primrose everdeen

[maryonaccross]

Very random but I have this Hayffie headcanon where Effie falls pregnant with Haymitch’s daughter somewhere around the 61th hunger games (about two years after they started sleeping together) and freaks out because she wants to keep the baby but knows that it will be send to district 12 if people find out who the father is so she sorta breaks things off with Haymitch and marries Seneca Crane which works out great because the girl ends up looking like Effie and lives the first 14 years of her life as a capitol citizen ( I like the idea of her and Seneca being quite close and her being a daddy’s girl because I find the concept of a man who coordinates the murder of children for a living and then goes home to play with his daughter quite interesting from a psychological perspective).

She’s devastated when he’s killed after the 74th hunger game and only finds out who her real father is after the rebellion (she’s around fifteen by the time it ends).

And after that there’s the whole ‘Haymitch voting in favor of a capitol children hunger games’ thing which I know he only did because of Katniss and not because he genuinely supported the idea but I feel like him having a ‘capitol child’ himself would give that decision even more nuance and would be interesting to explore.

Idk I just remembered that one shot in the first movie where Haymitch is looking at the dressed up capitol children gathered to watch the games with something akin of disgust and that’s where the idea came from

#the hunger games #haymitch abernathy #effie trinket #Seneca crane #haymitch x effie #hayffie #hayffie headcanon

[lapushbaby]

random seneca because it seemed too fitting

#hunger games #the hunger games #thg #catching fire #peeta mellark #katniss everdeen #seneca crane #thg katniss #katniss and peeta #the hunger games katniss #thg peeta #the hunger games peeta #josh hutcherson #jennifer lawrence

[vee-nyx]

now that i’m reading the original latin of the pharsalia i don’t think i’ll ever be over suzanne collin’s genius when she wrote thg. there’s traces of lucan EVERYWHERE but my favorite by far is cato’s story, especially this quote:

“the gods favored the victor; cato the lost cause”

because, truly, the gods of the arena (i.e. seneca crane & co) favored katniss & peeta while cato favored the games, despite their dwindling popularity and hatred within the districts.

then there’s plutarch, the embellishing historian, telling true stories with extra spice to subtly influence his audience’s thoughts. seneca, the respected philosopher and friend of the emperor, forced to take his own life as punishment for conspiracy. coriolanus, the general who treated commoners and his tribunal so badly that they eventually threw him out of rome. enobarbus, the cynic who played both sides in the war between antony and caesar.

#not mcu #not sw #just the ramblings of a classical studies student #thg #the hunger games #suzanne collins #cato hadley #seneca crane #coriolanus snow #plutarch heavensbee #pharsalia

[witchesroad]

i realize that the film pretty explicitly stated that seneca thought katniss earned her tribute training score fair and square, but i’m still in favor of the interpretation that the gamemakers gave her an 11 as a way of putting a target on her back. the careers loathed her from the moment she diverted attention away from them at the tribute parade, but outscoring the entire pack truly marked her for death. no way they were going to let a girl from an outer district out-play them at their own game and live.

#thg #the hunger games #tbosas #the ballad of songbirds and snakes #meta #katniss everdeen #seneca crane #the careers #career pack #glimmer #marvel #cato #clove #we know that this is what happened in cf after she made the seneca dummy #but i like to think it happened here too

[inwhichiramble]

I’m reading TBOSAS for the first time and I cannot believe the parallel of Brandy’s body hanging from a pole at Arachne Crane’s funeral, and then Katniss hanging the mannequin of Seneca Crane in Catching Fire. Who told Suzanne Collins that that was okay 😭

#bosas #ballad of songbirds and snakes #BOSAS spoilers #the hunger games #the hunger games spoilers #thg spoilers #Arachne Crane #seneca crane #coriolanus snow #katniss everdeen #ya books #dystopian #ya dystopia #tbosas #the ballad of songbirds and snakes

[snakiyaki]

i love to think that arachne was so vile as a capitol child that it literally cost her life and even snow aknowledged how awfull she was, and then 64 years later arachne's descendant seneca essentially starts a revolution because he can't bare to be that evil

#tbosas #coriolanus snow #thg #seneca crane #arachne crane

[gaytor-golf]

me, watching opla with my sister for the first time: mihawk looks really familiar

my sister: :0!!!!!

#live action one piece #the hunger games #hawkeye mihawk #dracule mihawk #seneca crane #funky beard club :p #one piece 2023 #opla

[incorrecthungergamesquotes]

Plutarch: I can make your life very difficult. Seneca: How? Plutarch: How?! Seneca: Plutarch: Uuuuuh-

#source: how i met your mother #incorrect quotes #plutarch heavensbee #seneca crane

[enixamyram]

One of my favourite things about Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes is the little easter eggs. Like the familiar last names of students you realize are ancestors to some familiar characters!

#The Ballad Of Songbirds and Snakes #Arachne Crane #Livia Cardew #Lucretius Flickerman #Hilarius Heavensbee #Seneca Crane #Fulvia Cardew #Caesar Flickerman #Plutarch Heavensbee

[catindabag]

One of my friends kept asking me who the heck is Arachne Crane’s mysterious down-to-earth older brother in my TBOSAS Crack!AU. So I introduce to you ✨Aeneas Crane✨. The only Capitol Noble who was forced to live and sleep inside a doghouse because his parents are evil.

And because they only love their precious Arachne and no one else.

PS: Aeneas is also Seneca Crane’s grandfather.

[Read this for context]

This is his bedroom since he was a child.

Meanwhile, this is Arachne’s bedroom.

Yeah, I know. Their parents should be arrested.

#tbosas #crack post #crackship #snowjanus #snowplinth #coriolanus snow #president snow #sejanus plinth #lucy gray baird #arachne crane #seneca crane #the ballad of songbirds and snakes #ballad of songbirds and snakes #thg #hunger games #the hunger games #suzanne collins #alternative universe #thg fic #thg incorrect quotes #tbosas fic #tbosas incorrect quotes #crack treated seriously #thg fanfiction #thg series

[fishlesh]

seneca crane but more fashionable

#digital art #art #hunger games #the hunger games #seneca crane #hunger games fanart #fanart