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arsenicpanda · 3 years

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Trying to distract you from the elephants and hippopotami (hippopotamuses?) living above you: If you could write S5, what are the major highlights you’d focus on?

An excellent question! So, I’m going to pick some of the speculation/leaks we have and toss the others and kind of guess/go from there. Also, this gets long, like 1.9k words long, so be ready.

- Main Mystery: After the success of Jughead’s novel and the reunited Josie and the Pussycats, Riverdale has become something of a novelty, part curiosity, part tourist trap. But, this season, tourists and Riverdale residents are starting to go missing. Some come back, some don’t, and those who do come back have wild stories to tell about, idk, Mothman or something, we’ll run with that leak. But they also have a weird drug in their system. At least one of the people who disappeared was a government person with top secret knowledge. Idk exactly what’s happening, but Penny Peabody and perhaps Penelope will be involved. Maybe they’re using people as lab rats? Idk, it’s unclear. Everyone will have a piece of the mystery, even if Betty and Jughead are the ones to put it all together.

- Archie: Archie is, in fact coming home from the army, but instead of Not-Boyfriend #3, he’s coming home with Reggie, who also joined the army. Reggie’s dad is dead and has left him the car dealership, while Archie wants to Do Something For The Community In Honor Of His Dad again (also, everyone knows he’d be a shitty car salesman). Maybe we keep the firefighter thing though, idk. What’s important is that he and Reggie are living together in the Andrews house and, yes, we will get Archie’s gay awakening that we all deserve. This is 100% a ship we will explore starting somewhere in 5a. Archie is concerned about the disappearances and knows people being affected by it, same for Reggie.

- Veronica: Veronica went to business school and did business stuff with something new while being distantly involved in Le Bonne Nuit (Pop’s, however, she mainly handed back to Pop, although she does still do something accounting shit for it or something). However, she also started doing some shady shit (not sure what, I know jack all about this, I’d delegate this decision) and almost lost her business/went to jail/got sued/etc. Now she’s back in Riverdale to try to return to her roots with Le Bonne Nuit and being a Legitimate Business Woman. She married a dude who is reminiscent of her mother, kind of a business partner but also a Lady Macbeth type. The marriage is shaky at best because Veronica kind of forced herself into it, thinking that dating a non-himbo might make her happy after Archie (spoiler: it hasn’t). They will have their own apartment in the Pembrooke, and, yes, Veronica will have an office somewhere with the rediscovered painting of herself behind the desk ala Hiram because I deserve to see it. She’ll probably take it down at some point, but it will definitely be up for a while. She’ll have a rival business person (Elio?) who is both somehow involved in the disappearances, and Veronica’s husband will be revealed to have been working with him at some point.

- Veronica/Archie/Reggie: This is our endgame pairing because I deserve it. Veronica will get close to her himbos again, with Archie bringing out her better nature and Reggie bringing out her better business angles. Veronica gets brought into the Archie/Reggie relationship in 5b slowly, might all get together only toward or at the very end of the season. I’d work out specifics later though.

Now, I’m of two minds about Betty and Jughead. I could break them up like the show will or I could keep them together because I do what I want. I’m going to present both cases:

Scenario 1: They stay together

- Betty: Betty is an FBI agent, but she’s also chafing at the restrictions placed on her. She keeps getting in trouble for going about things in a shady way (like, say, ignoring the need for a warrant), and she’s getting frustrated by all the red tape. Currently, she’s being sent to Riverdale because of all the disappearances (particularly the government person) and because, well, she’s from there, she knows it. She has a partner who she doesn’t get along with. She and Jughead made it through long distance at college and post-grad, and they live together...idk, somewhere. She will somehow reconcile with Veronica, unclear how. May or may not quit the FBI to be a PI with Jughead at the end of the season. Definitely fucks up Penny’s shit at one point.

- Jughead: Jughead is a published author and a PI who Betty sometimes uses as a way around red tape and advocates as a consultant; they both love this. His first novel about Riverdale secured Riverdale’s place as That Weird Murder Town Where Shit Goes Down and turned it into a tourist trap; he hates this. He’s on his...idk, third novel, with his second having done less well than his first. He’s having trouble writing, so he goes back to Riverdale with Betty, hoping that returning to the town that first fueled his writing will help him with his writer’s block. Jughead gets sucked into the spooky part of the mystery, going off on wild tangents while Betty pursues legitimate avenues. 100% does not have a drinking problem.

Scenario 2: Betty and Jughead break up (either post 4x17 reveal or due to long distance troubles)

- Betty: A lot is the same here. She’s an FBI agent chafing at the restrictions placed on her and frustrated by red tape; she gets in trouble a lot for going about things shadily in her usual way. She’s being sent to Riverdale as a Riverdale expert to investigate the disappearances in general but, more specifically, that government person who went to Riverdale on vacation. (There may or may not be a more suspicious reason for the government person’s visit.) She is either a single career woman with a partner she doesn’t get along with or she is having an affair with her partner that is falling apart. While in Riverdale, she’s staying either in an apartment, a motel, or her house, depending. She will somehow reconcile with Veronica, unclear how. May or may not quit the FBI to be a PI at the end of the season. Again, definitely fucks up Penny’s shit at one point.

- Jughead: Jughead is still a novelist upset about the effect his breakout novel had on Riverdale. He is also an investigative journalist who’s been sent to Riverdale to investigate this shit OR a PI who can afford to take a vacation in Riverdale, and he’s happy to do it because it might help him with his writer’s block. He has a live-in girlfriend back wherever he lives, and their already dying relationship is going to break with the added long distance difficulties. He’s going to go after the weirder aspects of the disappearances because he thinks that’s where Riverdale’s answers always are. While in Riverdale, he’s staying with Cheryl and Toni. He will definitely reunite with the Serpents, and probably have some friendship moments with Archie as well. 100% does not have a drinking problem.

- Bughead: They will keep ending up at the same places while investigating and slowly slip back into their old routine and habits. They’ll have a murderboard in the bunker where they meet up away from the eyes of the FBI (Cheryl and Toni draw the line at murderboards in their house), and there will be a lot of pining and sexual tension. They will have at least one heartfelt conversation about why things didn’t work out, one instance where they have to make out to try and seem harmless after being discovered somewhere they shouldn’t be, and one heated encounter (maybe sex, maybe just making out) after being in a lot of danger. If Betty is dating her partner, he’s revealed to be a shady fucker after she breaks up with him like three episodes in. Jughead and his girlfriend have a conversation over the phone where they’re both tryin to break up with the other; it’s quite comical. Betty and Jughead are reunited by the end of 5a (episode nine at the latest) and spend the rest of the season rebuilding their relationship. The season may or may not end with Jughead proposing, possibly with a ring he bought for Betty previously but never had the heart to get rid of after the break up, possibly impulsively with one of the rings he always wears, possibly just with a new ring.

- Kevin and Fangs: Kevin is a drama teacher at Riverdale High, and Fangs does...idk, something, maybe he’s also a teacher, maybe he’s a /bein some field who can work from anywhere, maybe something else. They live together, a little off/on, but in a way that suits them and always ends in on. Kevin is concerned about some of his students who’ve gone missing. Fangs is either in the same position as Kevin or he has an employer who’s being shady.

- Cheryl and Toni: Cheryl and Toni both went to Highsmith College. Cheryl runs the Blossom maple business well and maybe something else, and Toni is a successful photographer. As for the twins, Polly recovered and is now raising them somewhere other than this helltown. They’re back in town for Cheryl’s business purposes, although they mainly live...idk, somewhere else. Either other Blossoms are secretly pulling some shit, Penelope has resurfaced, or Cheryl has a business partner who’s doing something shady. Toni sees some shit while taking photographs of Riverdale. Toni should get a storyline/be involved in the main plot, but I’m not sure what. Maybe she’ll investigate with Betty and Jughead sometimes? She definitely has a lot of interactions with Jughead, Fangs, and Sweet Pea though.

- Sweet Pea: Apparently is here? Maybe lives with Kevin and Fangs? Works...idk, somewhere? Possibly went to community college, maybe works at the hospital as a doctor or nurse or lab tech or something? Maybe is the sheriff? Unclear, but has seen some shit one way or the other. I know he’s not a series regular, but we bothered to bring him back apparently, he has to do something.

- Southside Serpents: Might not even be around? Maybe they disbanded at some point? Maybe there’s a new version of them that’s being shady? Maybe we don’t mention them at all? Unclear.- Alice: Is still here, apparently, living in Gladys’s house. No longer with FP, who has gone...idk, somewhere, maybe lives with Gladys? Alternately, Gladys comes back to live in her house and sparks fly between her and Alice. Probably is being nosy.

- Hiram and Hermione: Doing some shady shit, undoubtedly, may or may not be shady shit related to the plot, possible red herrings. It’s kind of one last hurrah for Hiram because we’re finishing up Veronica’s parallels with him this season. We might get Hiram v Betty at last, though, but then that might be best saved for season 6. Definitely a mirror for Veronica’s relationship though.

And I think that’s everyone? I wrote out Tabitha because we know nothing about her so I have no idea what to do with her. I didn’t break up choni because it really isn’t worth the hassle of breaking up and then getting back together three relationships. I have no idea what the musical episode would be. And I didn’t bother to hash out the plot because I’m not crazy enough to lay out a proper Riverdale plot, but I assure you a bunch of crazy shit goes down and at least one 90s teen/college icon shows up.

#asks #soyforramen #Riverdale #Riverdale speculation #this was such fun thank you for asking!#my thoughts on Riverdale let me show you them #so many thoughts this time

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emetophobiahelp · 3 years

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Close Enough - Season Two

SPOILER-ISH Warning

Season 2, Episode 1A - "Josh Gets Shredded"

Around the 1:40 to 1:45/1:46 minute mark, after getting quickly exhausted from exercising, Josh runs outside, v***** on the ground while leaning on the wall with his back turned. It's audio. Around the 1:45/1:46 to 1:48 minute mark and around the 1:51/1:52 to 1:53/1:54 minute mark, you see aftermath, as there is v**** all over Josh. It's visual.

Season 2, Episode 2B - "Houseguest from Hell"

Around the 17:40 to 17:50 minute mark, Emily's "friend", Becca, experiences morning sickness and v***** into Emily's purse, much to Emily's dismay. Audio and visual.

Season 2, Episode 3B - "Cyber Matrix"

Around the 15:00 to 15:03/15:04 minute mark, Randy v***** on the floor after he and the rest of the main characters discover something wrong Alex. Audio and visual.

Season 2, Episode 5B - "Birthdaze"

Around the 11:25 to 11:44 minute mark, we see a short montage of children at a couple of different birthday parties and three different ones are shown v*******. The first one is at 11:32, the second one is at 11:38, and the third one is at 11:42. All of these are audio and visual.

Around the 15:11 to 15:18 minute mark we see one of the children's fathers (v*******??) after attempting to chug some beer to impress the children. Audio and visual.

Season 2, Episode 6A - "Time Hooch"

There are two v**** scenes in this segment and they're both from Josh. The first time is around the 6:22 to 6:23 minute mark where he does it in a water fountain after drinking too much. The second time is around the 10:20 to 10:22 minute mark where he does it right next to Alex in the front yard/porch of the apartment....probably because of the same reason as before. Audio and visual.

Season 2, Episode 7A - "Where'd You Go Bridgette"

Around the 3:00 to 3:05 minute mark, Bridgette r****** as a result of losing her sanity and experiencing anxiety/stress from having her phone taken away by Pearle. This prompts Pearle to bring her a bucket. We see nothing as it moves on to the next scene. Audio only, no visual.

Season 2, Episode 7B - "The Erotic Awakening of A.P. LaPearle"

Around the 20:48 to 20:54 minute mark, while on a TV talk show, Pearle reveals a secret that causes everyone, (with the exception of her and Alex), to v****. The show host v***** off-screen, while the audience v***** on-screen. And the rest of the main characters, who are at home watching everything on TV, also proceed to v****....and it's on-screen-off-screen-ish....?? Yeah. Audio and visual.

Around the 21:15 to 21:24 minute mark, Pearle and Alex are cornered by an angry mob. Pearle gets Alex to do a specific thing repeatedly as a way for them to escape from the mob. And it makes all of them [the mob] v****. Mostly audio, but a little bit of visual, too.

Around the 21:28/21:29 to 21:32 minute mark, we cut to a book burning in the middle of a street where a number of people are v******* on the ground. A woman throws a book in the fire, falls on her knees and proceeds to v**** alongside everyone else. Audio and visual.

Around the 21:34 to 21:36 minute mark, we cut to two astronauts in spaces who are watching the show on TV, specifically the part where the revelation occurs, and they both proceed to v****. Audio and visual.

Conclusion/Thoughts

Alright, WOW, so Close Enough season two is like....really not safe. There are a surprising number of triggering moments in this season, more so than the first season. And they occur in every other episode, which is just insane. Just ABSOLUTELY wild. This was (still is) pretty irritating, but I did thoroughly enjoy this season, regardless. I hope to those who plan on watching this season manage to find some enjoyment out of this season, too, in spite of these triggering moments. Much love. :))

#close enough #submission

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billandtedsexcellentgaymarriage · 5 years

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here’s my big Opinions On Arrested Development Season 5 B post. sorry if readmores break bc this post is Long.

first off let me say WOWie i watched like all of this way faster than i meant to. oops!

so 5b was OVERALL pretty good IMO. i’mma talk about my issues with it first tho

i think this season would have benefited majorly from being released in 1 wave instead of 2. i won’t pretend to know the reasons behind splitting the season and i don’t care enough to DIG for it y’know? but the mythology of AD and the storylines in the netflix seasons are so convoluted that coming back to this season after just like... 6 months i think (i think i caught up in sept/october?) was a bit tough. it’ll definitely benefit from a rewatch (like all the seasons do TBH) but whew doggie it’s a lot. in typical AD flashback-forward style it does a pretty good job of like, reminding you of various plot points from before tho.

secondly, tobias is insufferable. i think he was fine pre-season 5. i don’t think i cared much for him past season 2 but like i could get a few chuckles and his storyline in s4 while dark was bearable. this season it was just... terrible. murphybrown was the funniest parts of his segments man. i think these reddit comments sum it up:

[text: comment1: Debrie’s storyline is just horrific. I didn’t see any humour in watching a woman completely bottomed out by addiction and failure.

comment2: I agree. I was hoping they’d flex some of Tobias’ medical background to help her with her addiction is a conical type of way, rather than just let him be complacent.

comment3: I know that’s the joke he’s up his own ass with how out of touch he is...But holy fuck it was not only gross, jut horrible]

and yeah... i mean the show is dark and based off of black comedy like 90% of the time I Get It but like debrie’s s5 stuff wasn’t funny.

another thing is general consensus is that the editing/ADR of this season is terrible. and yeah, it is. not really a problem that i had with the season so much as acknowledging a problem other people had. to be fair to the show the OG seasons were pretty rough with this too, AND filming the netflix seasons has been a disaster apparently wrt trying to get around everyone’s schedules and whatnot. anyways. not a big problem i don’t really care about it

IN MY ONION... season 3 of AD is the worst fucking season. i outright hate some of it, dislike a lot of it, and like a bit of it. so like i have no problems with the way s5 has gone because it is not season 3 LOL. anyways. onto the good stuff

without being too spoiler-y the seasons (series?) finale had a callback that must be at least 6 years in the making as the footage is from season 4 and not like green-screened etc. and god it was so worth it.

season 5 made me laugh with pretty much every episode, even w/ how ... dark ... some of it got lol. gay gob (bi gob?) is like, the highlight of the series for me. gob has always been My Fave (actually tied with lucille but w/e) but i think his character got real good around s4/s5. as usual i don’t care about george sr. or oscar bc like, You Know. but i think generally the other character save those two and tobias were really good this season! i even sometimes enjoyed when michael was on the screen!

also like, somehow, they made drawing the bluth family tree 20394x more difficult than previously thought which is such a feat.

i know this seasons suffered from a lot of rewrites (thus the bad ADR and convoluted storylines) but like... i think it came out decent. and was wrapped up rather nicely save for that NEXT TIME ON ARRESTED DEVELOPMENT bit in the finale (b...buster..) so... wig! i think the finale mirrors the s3 finale in a lot of ways (michael and george michael riding into the sunset to maybe have a good life apart from the rest of the bluths vs every other bluth having a good time together until something goes terribly wrong) and that’s not a bad thing imo. for a show that has callbacks and stupid foreshadowing and visual gags that don’t tie in till years down the road... where the plot is always just a roundabout of these terrible people doing terrible things and trying to deal with it... doesn’t it make sense that the end is roundabout too? whatever

all in all if this is the last season (which i doubt s6 will ever happen so ... yeah) i think it’s a fair sendoff to a dumb show that i really like. i don’t think it was disappointing, i don’t think it was bad. i think it was a fun time with a lotta laffs, a few mysteries, and too many tobias scenes.

#arrested development spoilers #ad spoilers

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sage-nebula · 5 years

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So I just finished season five of Arrested Development.

That sure was . . . something. Under a cut for spoilers.

To be honest, I was so bored that after the third or fourth episode of 5b I started doing other things. Playing The Sims 4, messing around on my phone, only half watching. The entire batch of episodes only got one genuine laugh out of me (when Buster was trying to make his entrance with GOB at the Bluth Company and his fake hand got caught in the elevator because his timing was off), and for a show whose first three seasons made me laugh out loud every single time, that was disappointing and underwhelming. That said, there’s one aspect of the show that actually made me put down the secondary things I was doing and pay attention, and it’s one that I feel is not getting enough attention.

Lindsay’s true parentage.

Through the back half of 5b we started getting “flashbacks” (really a dramatic reenactment because apparently Imagine did start filming on the project? but also it wasn’t at all a father-son story like Ron Howard said it would be in season four?) to the Bluths childhood at the beach house. These were interesting enough on their own because I always liked the flashbacks in earlier seasons as well (and the actors they got to play the child counterparts of the modern day Bluths were fantastic; in particular the actors for young!Michael and young!GOB nailed the adult actors’ mannerisms), but it’s in these flashbacks that we learn that Lindsay’s biological mother was actually Lucille’s biological mother, which makes Lindsay and Lucille sisters.

And this is just . . . barely touched upon. By anyone.

I was actually super invested during the flashbacks. The fact that Buster killed his grandmother is something else altogether (and then how he nonchalantly reveals later that he did kill Lucille 2 and knew it all along? What??), but the scene with Lucille and Mimi arguing over Lindsay felt so real and emotional that it actually drew me in. Of course Arrested Development is a comedy show, but given that it’s not been delivering on the comedy in seasons four and five as well as it did in the first three, getting to see exactly why this family is so pathologically disturbed was actually very engaging for me. It was the cycle of abuse continuing and carrying out. Mimi abused Lucille in the exact same way that Lucille came to abuse Lindsay. (And Lindsay saying that Lucille was an amazing sister . . . honey, no. She still abused you, and pretty relentlessly.) The flashbacks, and the discussion around the flashbacks, were easily the most engaging parts of the show. (And Michael confessing to the murder was also super emotional, I won’t lie.)

But again, it was barely touched upon. Michael, Buster, and GOB never reacted to the news that Lindsay is actually their aunt. George-Michael and Maeby were never told that, surprise! They actually ARE blood related, and Maeby is his . . . second cousin, I think? Because now the family tree is:

Maeby is the cousin of GOB, Michael, and Buster, which would make her George-Michael’s second cousin, I think. Or first cousin once removed, or whatever the hell the terminology is. But no one thought to tell them this despite the fact that the George-Michael/Maeby subplot was there since the first episode of season one (and I think they kissed in the finale?). I mean, it’s incest regardless since it’s not DNA that defines family but rather the bond, but you still would think that would be remarked upon outside of Buster’s little joke there at the end. Considering the fact that this family’s dysfunctional relationships with each other have always been the core of the series, it feels strange that these new . . . well, developments in their family structure went completely ignored in favor of the FakeBlock plot and other plots.

I don’t know, it . . . was something. And it’s over. And I think that’s probably for the best. Seasons four and five were just not up to the same calibre as seasons one through three, and as much as I did want Arrested Development to come back, now I kind of wish it hadn’t. But it’s over, and I got it over with, so now I can focus on season three of Queer Eye. That’ll make for a fun remainder of the weekend, at any rate.

#i know everyone is talking about blunder but i just had to talk about this #also Buster what the hell #arrested development

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gray-autumn-sky · 6 years

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Gray-Autumn-Sky OQ FF Master List- Updated July 2018

Because of length, this list had to be split into two lists.

Back to Part 1 of Gray-Autumn-Sky’s OQ Master Fic List

Missing Year One Shots:

Missing- Set in the Missing Year, Roland runs away and Regina helps Robin to find him.

A Starting Point- Missing Year. Regina loses a bracelet that Henry gave her and breaks down; Robin witnesses it and is there to comfort her.

The Search- After Regina falls asleep, Robin spends the night searching for her missing bracelet. (Continuation of Starting Point)

Thank You- Regina thanks Robin for finding the bracelet. (Continuation of Starting Point)

Kindred Spirits- On Henry’s birthday, Roland unknowingly comforts Regina.

No Longer Alone- The Merry Men come the rescue when Regina is attacked by Zelena’s flying monkeys, and they remind her that she’s now one of them.

Our Little Secret- Regina is sick with a cold and a fever and Robin takes care of her–despite her protests.

Insatiable- Robin walks in on Regina “pleasuring herself” and is surprised when she asks him to join her; the two try to keep their love affair a secret.

Snow Cones on a Sunday Morning- On a snowy night, Regina is missing Henry and Robin is there to comfort her.

Into the Woods- After being caught by the Wicked Witch, Robin and Regina bicker as they attempt to free themselves.

Don’t Give Up- Regina travels back to the Missing Year in an effort to save Robin’s soul.

Can I Be Your Valentine?- Robin watches as Regina teaches Roland to make Valentine’s cards.

Friends with Benefits Verse:

Friends with Benefits- Once a sexual relationship begins, can Robin and Regina remain ‘just friends?’ Set during the Missing Year.

Morning After- Follow up to Friends with Benefits. The morning Regina is supposed to cast the second curse, she wakes up with Robin by her side. Set during the Missing Year.

Deja Vu- When Robin and Regina meet for the first time in Storybrooke, Regina’s jolted by a sense of deja vu. Set in Storybrooke with flashbacks to the Missing Year.

What Friends Do- Robin can't stop staring at Regina's ass when she wears one of her tight dresses--which she wears, just to get a reaction out of him.

Dancing in the Rain- When Regina has a hard day, Robin shows her the pleasures and joys of the rain.

Season 4A-Inspired One Shots:

Friday Night, Movie Night- Hood Mills Family fluff. Robin and Regina spend a night in with their boys watching a movie.

Filling in the Missing Pieces- Dimples Queen fluff. Robin watches Regina cuddling with Roland after reading him a bedtime story and reflects on the first time he saw them together like this during the missing year.

Lost then Found- An evening spent searching for Roland’s lost stuffed monkey leads to an unexpected marriage proposal.

You Found Me- A follow up to Lost and Found. On their 10th anniversary, Robin and Regina tell the story of how they got engaged.

I Choose You- The moment when Robin realized that he would choose Regina over Marian; set after the library scene with Page 23, but before they knew about Ingrid’s Shattered Sight Curse.

Operation Parent Trap- S4 AU. Noticing their parents are miserable, Henry and Roland plot to reunite Robin and Regina.

As It Should Be- A continuation of Operation Parent Trap; Robin and Regina take the boys home, enjoying some family time and then some alone time.

The Vault- The first time sees Regina’s vault; the first time he realizes that he’s falling in love with her.

Embracing Love- Written for OQ Smut Week- Robin and Regina have trouble staying away from each other after Marian returns; Robin and Regina spend the night together at Robin’s camp, just before the Curse of Shattered Sight hits Storybrooke.

Claiming a Happy Ending- Both Robin and Regina find themselves missing each other and Regina decides to do something about it. This was written between 4A and 4B, when I had the delusion that I wanted to be “spoiler free.” I was also ill when I wrote this and haven’t looked at it since, so…it might be a little rough, LOL. (Really, I should delete this.)

Shattered Expectations- Dark OQ smut during the Curse of Shattered Sight; and after the curse breaks, Robin and Regina share a sweet moment together when he helps her change back.

Where Our Story Began- Set directly after Smash the Mirror, Robin asks Regina if he can walk her home and when they get there, she gives him The Legend of Robin Hood–a book that both exasperates and surprises him.

You’ll Always Win- Set in an AU version of S4 where Marian was Marian, was never frozen, and Robin and Regina had to work through that. And Regina confesses she’s allergic to trees.

Reasons (Not) to Camp- Based on the AU above, Regina and Robin spend a night together at the Merry Men’s camp.

The Wrong Choice- After choosing to try again with Marian, Robin can’t shake the feeling he’s made the wrong choice.

Season 4B-Inspired One Shots:

Letters to My Love- Regina discovers a series of love letters that Robin wrote to her while he was in New York.

Rain, Rain, Don’t Go Away- Written for OQ Smut Week- Sex in the Rain. Set during a light rainstorm in NY, Robin can’t stop thinking of Regina.

The Comfort of You- After Robin returns from New York, Robin and Regina take a nap together, alternately reflecting on how glad they are to be together again.

Sweet Dreams- Worried about impending fatherhood, Robin finds himself unable to sleep, and Regina comforts him.

The Light behind the Dark- Robin and Regina attend Zelena’s first ultrasound after returning to Storybrooke, and Robin shares his uncertainty about raising Zelena’s child.

On the Road to Happiness- On the way back to Storybrooke, Robin and Regina discuss what happened in New York with Zelena/Marian, and decide the best way to get their revenge against Zelena is to be happy together.

To See You Smile- While he’s in New York, Robin and Regina have a Skype date.

Season 5A-Inspired One Shots:

Wonderful Tonight- The night of a ball at Camelot, Robin finds himself in awe of Regina. AU

Moments like These- AU. Instead of attending the Camelot ball, Robin and Regina stay in for the night with Roland and baby Neal; Roland inadvertently gets Robin and Regina to open up about their feelings regarding the child Zelena is carrying.

Just the Two of Us- Amid the chaos trying to save Storybrooke from the darkness, Robin and Regina spend a night at home alone together.

Late Night Tea- Robin and Regina have a much needed talk about her being a mother to his child, her infertility and their happily ever after.

One Day At a Time- Robin opens up to Regina about what happened with Zelena and doubts whether or not he’ll be a good father to the child she’s now carrying.

Together- Post 5x10; Robin and Regina cuddle up together in with Baby Hood and finally give that precious little girl a name; all the while, they discuss their memories of Camelot and the off-screen discussion about Zelena’s role in the little girl’s life.

What Remains- Swan Queen BroTp. Regina and Emma talking about what it’s like to have to kill the man they love; afterward, Regina seeks comfort in Robin.

In the Camelot Rain- The first time Robin feels ready for sex again after what happened in New York.

Lean on Me Verse (5A-Inspired)

***This was initially meant to be longer, based on time Robin and Regina being supportive of one another during 5A. However, as the season progressed, inspiration dwindled.

I would love to finish this; so, if you have prompts, please send them! :)

Lean on Me, Part 1- Regina struggles with Emma’s sacrifice, and Robin is there to talk her thought it and offer her support.

Lean on Me, Part 2- After Robin is attacked, Regina admits her love for him.

Lean on Me, Part 3- Robin gives Regina a meaningful gift in Camelot.

Season 5B-Inspired One Shots:

A Vow I Intend to Honor- A short drabble inspired by the deleted scene from the 5A finale; Robin’s motivation for following Regina and the others into the Underworld.

A Father’s Love- In the Underworld, Robin reflects on meeting Henry Sr. and gets Henry to open up about his feelings about losing Neal when he was just getting to know him.

Facing the Past- Robin and Regina visit Cora, who can’t help but try to manipulate the situation; after the encounter, Robin reassures Regina that he loves her just as she is.

Returning the Favor- Robin is missing his children, and Regina comfort him; together, they choose a name for Baby Hood.

Finding Peace- Robin and Regina encounter Daniel in the Underworld, and he helps her to embrace her role as savior.

Unresolved- Post 5x15- Robin confides in Regina about missing and mourning Marian.

The Power of Love- Post 5x16- Robin retreats into the woods to protect his daughter from Hades; but another threat looms, and Regina has to protect the baby from Cora.

Safe and Loved- Set during 5x16- Robin and Regina return to the loft with Peanut and the three of them enjoy a little family time–Regina holds her for the first time and heals her cheek.

I’d Rather Not Remember- Snow, Henry and Robin comfort Regina after she encounters Leopold in the Underworld.

Subtle Comfort- Post 5x19, Regina opens up to Robin about her complicated feelings regarding Cora and Zelena.

With a Stoke of the Quill- A “Fix-it Fic” for 5x21. After watching Regina grieve, Henry rewrites a part of her story.

Light in the Dark- A canon divergent end for 5x21 where Robin doesn’t die and Regina tells him about her struggles with the EQ and how she fears she’s meant to suffer. Robin comforts her and reveals a bit of his own dark past.

With You Always- Robin’s soul stays with Regina after his death because of their connection as soulmates. Slowly his presence becomes stronger (sort of like what happened with Voldemort–as described by the person who requested this).

Season 6-Inspired One Shots:

Unraveled- When the Evil Queen attacks Regina, Robin lashes out at the Charmings.

Acceptance- Follow up to Unraveled. Robin helps Regina to accept the Evil Queen as a part of herself.

Forgiveness- Follow up to Acceptance. Regina processes and comes to terms with her split and being whole again.

Coming Home, Piece by Piece- Slowly but surely, the Hood Mills family comes back together–a S6 AU

Back Where I Belong- A companion to Coming Home, Piece by Piece. Feeling somewhat overwhelmed, Robin reflects on his reunion with Regina and the kids.

Soul Mates- Robin makes a deal to return to Regina and the kids; and is able to come back because they share a soul.

With a Full Heart- And AU in which Robin is alive and was sent away to protect his children from the Evil Queen; and once she’s gone, Regina goes to find him.

Until Tomorrow- Regina keeps in touch with Roland via an enchanted mirror, and during one of their chats, he calls her his mom.

Even Though- Henry notices that Regina is sad at Emma and Hook’s wedding, and asks her to dance.

Dying Wish- How Robin ended up in the Wish Realm

Come Back to Me- Written for OQ Fix It Week. Regina has a plan to bring back Robin. Will it work?

Wedding Day- Written for OQ Fix It Week. Robin didn’t die; and once all settles down in Storybrooke, Robin and Regina get married.

Soft Spot Verse:

Soft Spot- The Evil Queen kidnaps Peanut, and Robin finds them together in her vault.

Soft Spot, Part 2- After finding the Evil Queen with Peanut, Robin sits with her for awhile and the two of them share a tentative kiss.

Soft Spot, Part 3- Regina is upset after Robin spends a night comforting the Evil Queen.

Soft Spot, Part 4- Robin can’t let Regina walk away and he does his best to comfort her.

Soft Spot, Part 5- When Zelena kidnaps Esme, Regina comes to realize she needs the Evil Queen.

Leaping Into Darkness Verse:

Leaping Into Darkness, Chapter 1- Robin feels a little insecure about entering into a relationship with someone who already knows so much about him, and fears he’ll disappoint her, just as as he disappointed another version of her.

Leaping Into Darkness, Chapter 2- On a walk in the woods, Robin suggests Regina’s outfits aren’t conducive to heisting.

Leaping Into Darkness, Chapter 3- Regina gets sick and Robin isn’t quite sure how to care for her.

Leaping Into Darkness, Chapter 4- High giggly sex by the riverside on a hot summer day

Season 7-Inspired One Shots:

You Can Always Go Home- Henry returns home to Storybrooke with his daughter, Lucy, after the untimely death of his wife, Elena.

Reset - Facilier helps Regina to cast a curse that sends her back to Storybrooke, to just after she and Robin returned from the Underworld.

A Light in the Darkness - Written post-finale. An OQ AU inspired by Lydia and Berto from One Day at a Time in which Robin’s soul stays with Regina after his death. She can see him and talk to him, and it’s almost like she has him.

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“I mean- total darkness. But you open these babies and BAM, let there being light!”

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Compass 1

With the main thematic North being Captain Swan related (but not exclusively), here is a guide to thoughts, speculations, analysis, researches, complains, and dreams spread throughout the blog...

1. It’s all about choice; 2. Keeping Balance in the Full Cycle; 3. The hero of a thousand faces (in OUaT); 4. The inner world challenges; 5.Foreshadowing…?; 6. 5B (Captain Swan) Wishing List; 7.Have they, have they not - yet?; 8. The Subtle Bodies; 9. Once Upon a (Non)Linear Time; 10.Patricide in Once Upon a Time; 11. True Love; 12. Killian and Emma navigating with the stars and finding their True North; 13. Once Upon an Ugly Duckling; 14. Firebird; 15. The Romance of Piracy; 16. Unfinished Business; 17. Pre-season 5B Feelings; 18. Tortured Killian Jones in the Underworld; 19. Guessing a little; 20. An Untold Story; 21. A Ballad for Robin Hood; 22. On Milah and Rumple; 23.Killian’s Choice and CS baby; 24. Killian Jones and Emma Swan deconstructing the high bar; 25.Expectations for CS; 26. What a puzzle to the rest of us is Belle; 27. OUAT in the Underworld; 28.Sleeping Pregnant Belle; 29. It’s all about logistic (real life pregnancy, movie promotion, LGBT romance as a fan service: 5 x 18; 30. 5x18 in summary; 31. Then there is HOPE; 32. On the morality of fairy tales and Greek mythology; 33. Magic Hook; 34. Weighing of Love in the Greek Mythology; 35.Firebird; 36. Unfinished business; 37. A Heart and a Feather; 38. Firebird - Initial Thoughts; 38.Orpheus and Eurydice; 39. The Eleusyniam Mysteries; 40. Zeus and Hades; 41. The balance scale in the True Love Test; 42. Killian and Emma on Fire and the Emerald Formula; 43. I sense light magic in the air; 44. Hope; 45. Last Rites; 46. Misguided Lord of the Underworld; 47. Thoughts on this (complementary); 48. Roland and Zelena; 49. Once upon a spoiled child; 50. Anticlimactic and frustrating finale; 51. The unfinished season; 52. Unfairness, Forgotten and Wasted Plots - Lost Opportunities; 53. Wishing; 54. Restoring the human touch; 55.On the Savior Mythology ; 56. More on the Savior Mythology - a Curse?; 57. True Love?; 58.(Commenting) the parallels with Emma and Killian; 59. More on the savior; 60. (Commenting) Redemption and end game; 61. More on Killian’s hand-hook; 62. More on Killian’s hand-hook; 63. Redemption for Regina; 64. Two Pillars (commenting); 65. Killian’s patience (commenting); 66. The Strange Case of Regina (commenting); 67. Killian and Belle (commenting); 68. On destiny and happy endings (commenting); 69. Parallels; 70. OUAT timeline (commenting); 71. Mamma Snow (commenting); 72. More on Killian’s left hand (commenting); 73. A storm is coming; 74. Green-Green-Green: something I’d never imagine I’d like to see but now I would; 75. Atropos; 76. The 3 keys to Killian’s secret (commenting on a gif set); 77. A Secret Treasure and Killian’s Past; 78. The safest trustworthy place; 79. I wish you were here; 80. On Conscience and Spine (commenting); 81. Zelena; 82. On Regina and the Evil Queen (commenting); 83. About the “dad to be” little speculation; 84. Timeline puzzle; 85. Unanswered questions; 86. Stage Lightning of Nautilus and Underwater scenes; 87. Hamlet on “Murder Most Foul”; 88. Heartless (speculations); 89. Promises, promises; 90. Adder’s fork, the Three Witches (Macbeth) and the Three Fates; 91. The Three Weird Witches; 92. Murder Most Foul - Hamlet characters animation; 93. Murder Most Foul (comments); 94. Murder Most Foul - more comments; 95. I’ll be your mirror - speculations; 96. More reflections on Dark Waters (comments); 97. Convergence (comments); 98. Speculations on 6x10; 99. The Back Door; 100. Narrative structure (comment); 101. Forgiveness; 102. Rumple hurting Belle; 103. Self-delusion champs of the week; 104. On Emma’s visions (comment); 105. Milah; 106. In defense of the writers (comment); 107. Alternative interpretation to Emma’s vision (comment); 108. TLK Mazze; 109. Regina’s black heart; 110. What. A. Mess. - 6x10 first reaction; 111. 6x10 second reaction; 112. There is a Villain for each Savior (comment); 113. What if’s time; 114. Somethings to consider; 115. A “positive” note; 116. Another positive note; 117. It’s all about her; 118. Calmer Killian (comment); 119. Killian’s growth; 120. Case solved; 121. Writer’s reaction; 122. 6x10 Criticism (comment); 123. Plot Hole 1; 124. Plot Hole 2; 125.Lessons Learned (comment); 126. Lessons for now - the imbalance on season 6 of Ouat; 127. My testimony as part of the CS Fandom; 128. Justice; 129. Captain Swan Wedding (comment); 130. On the Black Fairy (comment); 131. On the Villain vs. Hero pairing (comment); 132. Wishes and Prices; 133. Reality of the Wish Realm (comment); 134. Speculation on the Shears of the Fate (comment); 135. Destiny of the Savior (comment); 136. An important issue not addressed yet; 137. On “official” spoilers; 138. On the condition of Regina’s heart; 139. What 6B could be; 140; New year wish (personal); 141. Naming a house (CS Home); 142. 10 (anti) parallels of Hook’s redemption / Regina’s redemption (comment); 143. On Killian facing past demons (ironic comment); 144. Greatest missing opportunities with the splitting plot in 6A ; 145. A little bit of patience; 146. The cycle is almost complete (comment); 147. Speculations about season 7; 148. Thoughts on Jennifer’s podcast; 149. Speculations on 6x15; 150. Optimism about 6B; 151. Redemption Path (comment); 152. A musical… really?; 153. Resistance - A Musical episode may be a Great gift to all of us - I choose to believe; 154. Turning point for becoming a true hero (comment); 155. More on the turning point (comment); 156. A scene lacking of a better explanation (comment); 157. The Wish Realm, in summary; 158. OUAT going full circle (or the role of the Musical Episode (preliminary speculation); 159. Speculation on how to break the double sleepling curse (comment); 160. Forgettable World; 161. Regina’s projection of Hook; 162. Dealing with delicate issues (question); 163. On the reality of the Wish Realm (comment);164. Comments on a Killian Jones meta; 165. Speculations on the dark curse (comment); 166. Speculations on 6x18 spoilers (comment); 167. Speculations on 6x18 spoilers, part 2 (comment); 168. Storybrooke Fashion Week 2017; 169. My deadline (as a fan); 170. More ramblings on the show ending; 171. Anxiety in the fandom (comment); 172. Exercise; 173. Speculations on the end (comment); 174. Praising Bob and Colin’s acting dynamics; 175. On how A&E will deal with Evil Regina (comment). 176. Where have all the hearts gone?.

Texts that may be not directly related to OUAT and/or Captain Swan, but somehow they are correlated to the blog and its thematic.

1. Argonauts in Nature; 2. Jason and The Argonauts; 3. The Underground and The Underworld; 4.The Disease of Being Busy; 5. Allan Watts on accepting the darkness of self and others, according to Jung; 6. February, 2nd: Yemanja, Queen of the Sea ; 7. The Griffin; 8. Red Psychology; 9. Orpheus and Eurydice; 10. Ambrosia; 11. The Hero’s Journey in Storytelling; 12.The Emerald Formula; 13.All along the watchtower; 14. Morpheus, the god of Dreams; 15. Seashell oracle; 16. Quotes from Jules Verne (20000 Leagues Under the Sea); 17. The Two Pillars; 18. Names (commenting); 19. Based on Judith Harris, “Jung and Yoga: The Psyche-Body Connection” (commenting); 20. Nautilus: Sacred Geometry and Symbolism; 21. Meaning of Nemo (commenting); 22. Rex Mundi - What is behind Rumple’s book; 23. The Mysterious Island; 24. Portunes, the god of Keys (commenting); 25. A bit of reflection on a strange day (personal); 26. The dance of Shiva (personal); 27. On the “anti” on tumblr; 28. 5 things that make me happy (personal);29. On fandom nonsense; 30. On true love nonsense; 31. The Changelings Folklore explained; 32. The story of Wish You Were Here; 33. Dreams; 34. Fairies; 35. Jung and the Fairy Tales; 36. Us, poor human beings in December 2016 (personal); 37. Heartbreak - a video; 38. What is thinking? (personal); 39. Fandom stuff; 40. Bluebirds; 41. Third Bank of the River.

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TWD 10x10: Stalker - Details

Let’s talk some details! I’ll start by mentioning all the little things we’ve noticed, and then I’ll get into connecting it all. You might want to grab a beverage. This will be kinda long.

***As always, spoilers abound below for 10x10. Don’t read until you’ve watched! You’ve been warned!***

So, we start by seeing Beta jump into the pit via the RV. Both of those are huge symbols. The RV is a symbol of time that we’ve often associated with Beth. And Beta pretty much went into a dark tunnel…and emerged through a grave. Hmm. No better resurrection symbol than someone digging their way out of their own grave, Dean Winchester style

Then there’s Rosita’s dream. Seriously creepy, no? I knew from spoilers that it was a dream, but if I hadn’t, I definitely would have been freaking out. The thing is, it foreshadowed Beta walking around Michonne’s house, looking for Gamma. That part LOOKED just like Rosita’s dream. So that was a foreshadow of what happened later.

I couldn’t help but notice that when Daryl is following Alpha, he starts out in the dry riverbed. He gets up out of it, but then Alpha comes and he hides in it again. Then later, he attacks Alpha and the other Whisperers right next to the river. I’m wasn’t sure exactly what to read into that at first, but I’ll come back to it.

And Alpha actually led part of the horde out of the caves. It’s not very many—maybe a dozen or two dozen walkers—but they’re with her and the other Whisperers when Daryl attacks them by the river. Again, that’s important.

Also important to note that this season is moving relatively slowly. They made a point of saying in this episode that it’s only been 2 days since Siddiq died.

When Gamma tells FG to get her a map and she’ll point to where the caves are, I slowed it down to look at the map. It pans by very fast. I notice some Xs, but there are lines through them, which makes me think they might be train tracks. I can’t read all of the writing, but near the cave location, it says “unsafe zone.”

I also noticed the caves are 14 miles away. On the one hand, I thought of episode 14s through the seasons. Often Sirius/Beth related characters die in those episodes (i.e. Lizzie/Mica, Noah, Denise, etc.). Or this could be pointing toward ep 14 of this season. We’ll have to see what that brings us. But I looked it up in terms of biblical symbolism, and I found this:

All sound like Beth related stuff to me. And if the caves are 14 miles away, and that represents salvation and deliverance, that’s just another indication to me that Connie and Magna are just fine. They’ll survive the caves. Perhaps be “saved” by someone. ;D

My fellow theorists and I have been discussing the whole Rosita/FG/Eugene dynamic. At various times, we’ve felt that one or all of them might die. I felt that way this episode, too. The symbolism around them is so muddled, and they’re all so interconnected, that’s it hard to say. For one thing, when FG leaves Alexandria at one point, he gives Rosita his hat.

He does return to her after that, but it kind of felt to me like when Carl passed his hat to Judith, you know?

A group leaves Alexandria at the end for Hilltop. Rosita goes with them so she can see the doctor (apparently there’s still a doctor there) so I’m assuming when she arrives, that’s when we’ll get the scene with her and Eugene. But she also keeps talking about her fear that both she and Gabriel will die, leaving Coco an orphan. I don’t know if that’s a foreshadow or not, since it’s very on-the-nose, but it may be.

There’s also a part where Rosita looks up at the windmill and the camera focuses on it for a moment. People are speculating it’s a death omen because Siddiq woke up on its platform not long before he died. I think they might be onto something there, because in the opening credits, we see three turns of the windmill along with Rick’s bridge scene. And while we know Rick isn’t dead, the characters in the show believe he is.

I was also thinking that it might indicate a Whisperer trick. When it happened with Siddiq, Dante was in Alexandria, messing with his head. And in this episode, the Whisperers lured Gabriel and many others out of Alexandria so Beta could enter and get Gamma. But this is still conjecture. We’ll have to see how it plays out.

The gas station:

Everything is red, yellow and blue. There are “wings” on the main sign that look a lot like the Phoenix wings in the moonshine shack. And Alpha passes and old, analog gas pump with some interesting number on it. I’m seeing 32, 8 and 26. Not positive what to make of those, but 3+2 = 5 (for S5, perhaps?). 2 + 6 = 8, So that’s two 8s, which might indicate 16, or just the 8 years it’s been since Coda.

@frangipanilove noticed a rack full of car air fresheners. Just the kind of thing you’d find in a gas station. But what shape do fresheners often take? That of CHRISTMAS TREEs. So yes, there are Christmas trees in this scene. We also noticed some old soda coolers (think of @frangipanilove’s blue cooler theories. It indicates the Sirius/return symbolism.)

Also, there was a yellow mop bucket behind Daryl at one point.

And one of the walkers had fungus growing on its legs. We saw the same thing in Still and with Morgan in 6x06. I don’t know if I’d ever researched this before, but I looked it up and found THIS article that makes for interesting reading. This kind of fungus on trees suggests that the heart of the tree is rotten. That makes sense because each time we see them, the characters are in an emotionally bad place. Daryl, after the prison fell. Morgan, before Eastman helped him. And Daryl here, as also evidenced by when Alpha asked him if he could see past the darkness, and he answers, “No.”

He also uses a fire extinguisher to kill one of the walkers, which is also a Beth symbol.

Overall, it also reminded me of the burnt out greenhouse we saw in 6x06.

And I do have to say that I found the amazing things Daryl did with his leg injury to be…less than realistic, lol. Really not bashing anything, but he was putting all kinds of bodyweight on that leg with the knife still in it. And when he pulls it out, the thing spurts as though he’s obviously hit an artery. We don’t see that he has any way of bandaging it or treating it, yet somehow he lasts the night like that without bleeding out. Yeah, injuries like that REALLY don’t clot all by themselves.

But hey, it’s Daryl and obviously I don’t want him to die, so I’m cool.

And of course the other option is that it’s purposely unrealistic for symbolic reasons. That’s the kind of thing I’m trying to figure out. Like maybe this is meant to be a symbolic parallel with Alpha being Dawn and Daryl being Beth, and the spurt of blood represents her getting shot in the head and—against all odds—surviving. I’m not sure that entirely works out. Just throwing the possibility out there. But if it did, then Lydia could dually represent Beth saving Daryl and also someone else—like maybe Morgan?—who saved Beth after she was shot.

There’s another really interesting shot that instantly jumped out at me. At one point, we see FG preparing to leave Alexandria. He gets into a box and unwraps two, red shotgun shells. It was really the color that caught my eye at first. Next to it is a silver pendant with a cross on it. It’s not in the shape of a cross. The pendant is round but has a raised cross etched into it. (It’s actually the crest from his original church in S5, which is probably purposeful.) So it reminded me of the cross Beth wore around her wrist in Coda and of course there are those bullets. Annnddd… FG is a Sirius character. So once again, does this portend his death? I’m not sure.

What really caught my ear in the scene where Gamma talked to Judith was that she used the words ‘remember�� and ‘forget’ very close together, and I wondered if we would hear all the titles from 5b/Dale’s time speech. We didn’t, at least not in this scene, and I didn’t notice them anywhere else. But it still struck me as interesting.

There’s an “echo” theme in the episode. The other outpost that tells them there’s horde coming, but it’s a ploy and all the people from that station are actually dead, is called “Echo Station.” And when Gamma talks to Judith she says she has only echoes of memories of her previous life. I’m not entirely sure what that’s all about but I just thought that we’ve had nothing if not echoes of Beth over all the seasons since S5.

She also says that she and her sister made very bad decisions after the virus broke out, and then met Alpha (evil) and Judith says that if they’d met her mom or dad, Gamma wouldn’t be in this situation. So that’s just another way that Gamma and her sister are opposites of Beth and Maggie. They ended up in a good place because they met Rick, rather than following an evil, brutal leader.

Judith also says, “you don’t look like a monster to me.” Seems like we’ve had the monster theme in past several episodes.

When Beta goes into get Gamma, he says something kind of interesting. She’s arguing with him that Alpha lied about what this place was. He says it doesn’t matter. She’s Gamma’s Alpha and needs to be obeyed. Then he says, “You think you’re still alive. You were dead the moment you came to us.”

So the Whisperers actually believe they are dead. They don’t want to live as the living do. But we could relate that back to Beth’s theme of “you call this living” and a few others.

Later, when he gets her outside of Alexandria, taking her back to Alpha, he says, “You will fall. You will rise. You will walk with your sister again.” Yikes. Talk about a resurrection/sister theme. And you know, Maggie is returning, so… ;D

I gotta say that Judith shooting Beta was pretty damn awesome. You know, in the way Judith is pretty damn awesome.

There’s also the fact that Alpha wanted Lydia to kill her. So, we could call this a suicide arc of sorts. And when Alpha wakes up in the morning, she says she’s no longer weak, which is a parallel to Beth. I thought of that while watching it. Just the fact that she talks about not being weak anymore and Beth’s “I am strong,” you know?

People in my group noticed that they used some Dutch angles (with the camera askew) when Lydia walked in. Another reason to believe she’s a proxy for Beth returning.

And then there’s also Alpha singing. I don’t have tons more to say about that, but we all know why her singing is significant. And again, all the dialogue just jumps off the screen at me. “Kill me.” Lydia says no. Then Alpha sings. And says “They’re waiting for you to lead.” Beth anyone?

Lydia carved into a table, “your way is not the only way,” right? Well, the shape of the letters looked a LOT like the graffiti from S5 that says, “Wolves Not Far.” We’ve already talked about how the Whisperers were forerunners to and foreshadowed the wolves, but I started thinking about that idea more deeply. Like maybe that writing, while it did foreshadow the wolves (cuz obviously) also foreshadowed the Whisperers.

And think about that. We first saw that that graffiti in 5x09, which Beth was in, and there was an 8 next to her. Now, 8 years later, the Whisperers are here. So, by extension, Beth should be too. Back to that in a minute.

I thought it was interesting that Alpha says to Lydia “I want you to…” And then she passes out. She doesn’t get out the word, “stay” until morning. So, Lydia never heard her mom ask her to stay. Lydia would have just heard the first part of the sentence and assumed it would be a negative request, like “kill me and lead the whisperers.” But she wakes up and says “stay” and Lydia and Daryl are already gone. It just struck me as very tragic. And at first, I didn’t see it as a TD thing, but I’ve reconsidered.

Even when Daryl wakes up and talks to Lydia at the end, it struck me as a possible Beth parallel. Daryl says, “You just been out here this whole time?” Sounds like something he might say to Beth.

Finally, at the end, when Alpha starts reciting her end-of-the-world chant, it pans out. This is the top of the gas station from a birdseye view, with the road next to it. I immediately felt like maybe we should be reading into this shot somehow. I just didn’t know exactly how. The blue colors and greenery might indicate Beth. But I had to put together more thoughts about episode before it really made sense to me. It’s part of the hell theme, which I mention below but won’t go into in a lot of detail here. (The gas station = hell or dark tunnel, and the curving path shows that the character’s arc changes course because of the hell they endure.)

Okay, so this is most of the details I noticed. But the thing is, the details are actually incidental. Or at least, they’re just there to prove the bigger parallels.

I feel like this entire episode is one big foreshadow/parallel.

And it’s probably not possible for any of us to put our fingers on everything it points to, but the more I think about it, the more interesting it becomes. I’ll try to lay a few of them out for you.

1. So the most obvious thing this represents for me is what I talked about yesterday. It’s a replay of Coda and sort of a re-telling of Beth and Daryl’s arc. Daryl stabbed Alpha in the shoulder and then sustained an injury to the head, just as Beth stabbed Dawn in the shoulder and then was shot in the head. Also notice how this happens by the river (water = Beth). So Daryl represents Beth in this analogy and we then see him staggering around, injured, and in a very dark state of mind. I’m willing to bet Beth went through something similar after being shot and left behind. Or it could be literal, as we know there was a walker horde involved. So Daryl fighting off Alpha’s walkers and trying to survive could literally represent something Beth went through once she woke up, surrounded by walkers.

In that case, Lydia represents someone coming to help/save Beth. We don’t know who that is, but I’m sure we’ll find out eventually.

2. This also represents Daryl’s arc after losing Beth, though in that case, it’s emotional. After she got shot, he was sort of stumbling around in the dark emotionally, and unable to come out of his depression for a long time. With this interpretation, Lydia sort of represents…herself. Because Daryl didn’t truly start to come out of his depression until he started parenting her. So Lydia did help save Daryl emotionally.

3. I still think this represents something for the future as well. I think Lydia represents Beth returning and saving Daryl in some way. Will it be physically? Emotionally? My money’s on both. I think one thing this foreshadows is Daryl going into a dark state of mind again for some reasons, so even if she saves him physically, she’ll also save him emotionally by default.

And that brings up some interesting questions about Daryl’s crossbow, I gotta say. My group has been discussing this the past few days. We thought it was odd that Daryl dropped his crossbow before going into the cave in 10x08. Because he still had arrows and he had no obvious reason not to bring it with him. Now, of course it would have been VERY cumbersome when crawling through the tiny passages of the cave, and the writers knew that, which is why they had him drop it. But DARYL couldn’t possibly have know that, so it didn’t make much sense. It was obviously something the writers had him do with something in mind. And now Lydia has found it and brought it back to him.

A lot of us have had head canons about Beth doing something like this over the years, so again, this makes me…kinda happy. ;D

4.This obviously represents the hell/dark tunnel arc. I may end up doing an entire, detailed post about this, but here’s the basic gist. We already know the gas station represents hell, because in S4, the gas station Daryl and Michonne’s group went to had the word “hell” written on the marquee.

So I often talk about the dark tunnel symbolism representing the characters having a great trial, and that’s true, but you could also describe it as them going through their own personal hell.

So no matter how you slice it, we once again have a representation of what happened at Grady (stabbed in shoulder, injured in forehead) followed by the trial/hell/dark tunnel. For Daryl, for Beth, for Alpha… it works across the board.

It always starts with either a terrible injury, a death or a death fake out. Or sometimes literal imprisonment to a villain (i.e. Negan, Alpha, etc.). That’s followed by a period of time in which the character struggles through deep emotional darkness. (The dark part, as Maggie said.) Then, when the sun rises again, everything is okay. And what that “okay” looks like depends on what the first event is. If it’s an injury (think Carl’s eye in S6) then the person finally recovers or starts to recover, but it’s obvious they won’t die. If it’s a death fake out (think Glenn in S6) they show up alive. Other times, it might mean the death of the character themselves. (I’m thinking of Sasha. Yes, she died in S7, but she died so the group would have a fighting chance to win the war. And she was okay with that sacrifice. So we saw a sunrise.)

And let’s just appreciate that, if Lydia in this episode does represent Beth’s return to Daryl, she arrived in the night, kind of during his darkest hour. By the time the sun rose, they were away from the darkness, away from Alpha, and…together in the sunlight.

And the more I thought about and put together all the components of this sequence, the more I realized just how MANY times we’ve seen it. Like I said, I’ll do a more detailed post later, but it’s amazing to realize we’ve been seeing this all along, but for the most part only picking up pieces of it at a time.

(The reason I said the thing above about Alpha not finishing her sentence until the morning being a TD thing is that it’s a representation of someone “falling asleep” as it were and waking up along. You could say that this was Alpha entering the dark tunnel, much as Beth did--through injury--and when she wakes up, her family (Lydia, in this case) has left her behind. Right after that, we see the graffiti-like writing. We saw it with Beth in 5x09, right after Coda. And we’ve already seen plenty of parallels/anti-parallels between Alpha and Beth. Just saying.)

Let’s talk about Beta invading Alexandria for a moment and then I really need to shut up for today.

This is obviously a different sequence than the gas station, but I feel like it foreshadows something yet to come. First of all, it reminded me a lot of the Wolves invading Alexandria in S6. And I’m not saying that foreshadowed this (overall, this thing with Beta was less epic than the wolves) but I feel like both of them perhaps point toward something yet to come.

Let’s look at it with some distance. We have a major resurrection symbol (Beta crawling out of the grave) followed by an invasion in which Judith and RJ were in danger and many people died. So, I wonder if there will be a larger invasion where this is the case.

And honestly, it looks like this might happen with Alpha’s horde next episode, so maybe it just points to that. We’ll have to see.

But there’s also the resurrection symbol. So, I’m wondering if it points to a resurrection happening during this invasion. (And understand I’m just making observations here. I have no idea what it’s pointing to.) And maybe, given that Beta is evil, I’m making this symbolism too positive. I don’t know.

Also remember though that Beta is an anti-parallel for Daryl. (We saw him fighting with two knives in this episode, like Daryl does, so I was reminded of that.) And when Beth is resurrected physically, Daryl will be emotionally too. So there’s that.

So this is super conjecturey (totally a word) but remember what I said above: the first episode in which we saw “Wolves Not Far” was 5x09. Beth was in that episode, along with tons of symbolism about what might have happened during that missing 17 days, and what we think was trying to say that she would return in 8 years (in other words, now, in TWD timeline). And now, the Whisperers are here, which is probably what the wolves foreshadowed. (There were also interesting clocks in that episode, and the deeply foreshadowing radio voice broad casts. Yes, I need to do another post to show you guys this stuff. It’s just too much to put here today.)

So I guess what I’m thinking/hoping for is that at some point, the Whisperers will invade Alexandria en mass (or one of the communities; if this does point to next episode, pretty sure that’s happening at Hilltop) and during that invasion, Beth will show up to “save” everyone.

Now, here’s hoping this totally goes down next episode. My good friend @frangipanilove would be ecstatic, as ep 11 is the one she always focuses on, and here’s hoping she totally right. (Cuz, you know, that would mean Beth’s return next week. ;D)

But it’s also possible this is bigger than what’s happening in ep 11 and it will be more of a season finale sort of thing. Or… I could be interpreting this totally wrong and it won’t go down this way at all. This is just the stuff rolling through my head since watching 10x10.

One other thing: my fellow theorists and I talked about how we think this is setting up for three returns. Father Gabriel made the three reference to Gamma, and you could argue that Lydia got a return in this episode. She wasn’t really presumed dead or anything, but we hadn’t seen her in a while.

We also know Maggie will be back sometime soon. So that would be two returns. The third would of course, be Beth. But then there’s also Connie to consider. So who knows?

Yeah, this episode was totally packed with stuff. I doubt I’ve even truly hit on everything here. Lots of hidden gems. And next episode just looks, you know, totally badass. So I’m excited to see what comes next.

Thoughts?

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There's a part of me that kinda hopes we don't get a season 6 because the show is almost unbearable now

I am conflicted. Any Stef and Lena I want whatever Teri and Sherri think is best for them. If they want the money, the job, then I hope they get it. If they don’t then I am sure that’s one of the things that comes into play as Peter said.

Anonymous said: By the way Aaron is talking to Callie. It makes it seem like he only sees her as the girl who saves the world. He doesn't seem to believe in her when it comes to art. AJ does. I loved their talk.

AJ doesn’t tell her what to do, he doesn’t want her to use lame excuses to not try something. And when she’s doing reckless thing he tells her. Aaron wants to control things, for whatever reason he thinks he know better for her.

Anonymous said: So Stef is chaperoning the "prom" with Tess while Lena stays home? What kind of dumb fuckery is this? I'm sensing no Stef and Lena interaction ONCE again, and my interest has greatly waned in the season finale. Son of a bitch.

It’s such stupidity. I can’t even tell you. Do they really think that people want to tune into a season finale to see Tess and Stef hang out together? I just don’t know what to think anymore. I am happy I don’t watch live anymore. I would be too angry. I had a dream about the damn show: I was trying to watch it and something kept me from doing so. I caught one spoiler (Stef and Lena dancing) that made me determined to stay spoiler free. Eventually, I did start catching the episode and Stef was at prom but it was a bit more like a high school reunion, and it wasn’t about Tess. It was about how Stef felt in high school. She started to revert, feel what it was like for her in high school. And then I couldn’t watch the rest, but assume that Lena came in to help Stef worked through it, they danced and had a grand kiss. I am grateful that at least I got to “watch” this version of the show in my dream.

I hate that new sneak, when have they shown us that Stef is “so bothered” by Tess reiteration of her sexuality? I swear it’s such poor writing. This whole situation is so contrived that I am actually concerned they are going there.

Anonymous said: I really hope they don't turn Aaron abusive. Callie would probably stay with him and keep getting abused. Then she would end up getting really hurt. It's common in abusive relationships because their too scared to leave.

If they were going for realism they would. We know realism only applies to Stef and Lena. I think Callie will break it off before that though. I really need her to stop letting boys tell her to value herself.

Anonymous said: It's looks like Stef might be arresting Ximena but I don't think it's what it seems like.

Yeah, she’s probably saving her from ICE.

Anonymous said: let's talk about how the fosters IG page shared ANOTHER picture of the mom's from that photo shoot 😍 i am so curious as to how many pictures were actually taken that day. they had outfit switches, there are so many different angles, i cannot. i of course love this one as well.. anytime they are holding each other it's just like butta (as teri says)

This photo shoot has been the best gift. It has kept on giving. I thought they were done but nope, we got the most coupley picture they have ever taken! If only the show was as good. I think they had so many locations that they must have tons of pictures. Hopefully they’ll keep sharing through season 5b!

Anonymous said: Do you know The Bold Type ? If so what do you think of it ... I mean if you can tell, since it's not The Fosters related. I remember one day someone asked Teri and Sherri if there were going to be steamy scenes between Stef and Lena, they laughed. Today I think that TBT is breaking with that double standard on Freeform. Of course Stef and Lena have been naked in bed but I still think it was well covered. And in TBT they don't seem afraid to make these girls kiss all the time.

Two things here, season 2 is very much in doubt for this show. The one girl isn’t a regular. Those things alone would keep me from jumping on this ship. I am fragile lol. I did watch it before the kids arrived. My wife is half-iranian so she very much liked the couple and was enjoying it. I am not a great fan but I am happy that there are so many couples to choose from. As far as the scene being more graphic than Stef and Lena, not really. I didn’t actually see much more in their scenes. The kissing is cause they’re a new couple. Also the show is on at 9 and the time slot does make a difference with censorship and what you can watch. One of the things I liked about Stef and Lena is that they were naked on top of each other. That’s pretty unusual.

Anonymous said: I know you're busy with your family but I was wondering if you knew where I could view Teri's interview with Queen Latifha?

I will upload it on my youtube today. As soon as I am on my home’s wifi.

#i thought i answered these questions #but i couldn't find them on the blog #so i guess i never did #Anonymous

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