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cephalopod-truther · 1 year
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My main hope for the fourth season of traffic life is that Jimmy doesn't perma-die first. I want him to see the death message in the chat and react, and, while he's distracted (whether by shock or celebration), I want him to get killed by total fluke, like a creeper or lightning strike just seconds after the first person died, thus ending his series and killing him permanently. I just think that this is the funniest possible way it could go down.
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tomwambsmilk · 1 year
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it’s not a story prediction but what do you think the odds are of Greg having the lamest plotlines this season. I feel like they’re running out of ideas for him
I mean, in general Greg suffers from being character number 7 in a show with 7 protagonists, which means he's just interesting enough to have potential, but they don't really have the runtime to delve into him that much.
In writing, there's a technique called "triangles of tension", which is the idea that tension becomes more dynamic when it's spread among three characters with interdependent relationships, rather than just two. Succession uses this technique a lot - you've got Kendall-Shiv-Roman, Kendall-Logan-Roman, Kendall-Logan-Shiv, Kendall-Logan-Connor, Shiv-Logan-Connor (occasionally), Shiv-Logan-Roman (in season 3 especially), Connor-Kendall-Roman, Shiv-Tom-Logan, Kendall-Tom-Logan, Shiv-Tom-Greg, and Logan-Ewan-Greg. (And that's just focusing on main characters - if you expand to supporting characters there are tons more.) You'll notice that Greg only shows up in two of these, and neither of the triangles is really about Greg, properly speaking. Shiv-Tom-Greg is really about Tom, and Logan-Ewan-Greg is about Logan and Ewan's animosity. You can maybe argue for a Kendall-Greg-Tom triangle, which is largely about Greg, but it's never really developed with any seriousness - Greg always defaults back to Tom pretty quickly. The point I'm trying to make is that the complexity of the character networks coupled with the points of focus relegates Greg to being a supporting character in other people's triangles a lot, which is part of why he feels a bit undercooked at times (although you can argue for this being intentional on a thematic level because Greg is meant to illustrate how unsuspecting outsiders can be sucked into this sort of moral decay without much effort on their part.)
Anyways. To answer your question more specifically, I actually have high hopes for season 4 Greg, because I think his 'deal with the devil' in the season 3 finale implies an increased agency going forward as part of his arc (which I think is fundamentally a corruption arc). I think him actively consenting to Tom's offer (and enthusiastically - what am I going to do with a soul anyways?) is likely indicative of a change in how Greg operates in the world of Waystar. Even so, though, I'm not sure they're going to suddenly launch Greg into the forefront at this stage. I don't expect any new arcs or plotlines to emerge, since the season will be busy enough wrapping up everything they've laid the groundwork for previously.
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nysocboy · 9 months
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Two Kelvin/Keefe Problems in Season 4
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Fans have to be worried about something, and with the Episode 3.8 kiss (and 138 previous queer codes) establishing the Kelvin x Keefe romance as canon, they are beginning to wonder what will happen to the guys in Season 4. No one has actually written a word of any Season 4 script yet, so we might not see anything until 2025, but here are the two main concerns:
How can Kelvin continue his involvement with the church?
The family seems completely supportive, and the leaders of the church seem to welcome LGBT people. Only three characters have ever made homophobic statements: Steven and May-May (who did not belong to the church), and Pontius (in Season 1). In the real world, about 50% of Protestants in the U.S. belong to denominations that permit gay clergy, and 75% of young evangelicals support gay marriage. You can specialize in queer theology at a number of seminaries.
I imagine that they'll just make it a non-issue, or maybe part of a plot arc with a bigoted outsider minister.
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Will the guys face Shipping Bed Death?
Shipping Bed Death is a TV Trope describing what happens when a show is centered on "will they or won't they?" or in the case of a same-sex pair, "are they or aren't they?" When they finally say "I love you" or have the climactic kiss, there's nothing left for them to do, and later seasons become snoozefests. The most common example is Sam and Diane on Cheers.
But The Righteous Gemstones is an ensemble show; the Kelvin/Keefe relationship is not nearly as central as Sam/Diane or Scully/Mulder. And it's never really been "are they or aren't they": it's been broadcast, loudly, every season. An occasional kiss will not make much difference.
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autumnmobile12 · 9 months
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I'm relieved Isaac found his way in the end.
I am.
Because before Season 4 dropped, I was really, really concerned that if he was still hellbent on vengeance and he ended up fighting the main trio, the plot was going to go the Curse of Darkness route where Isaac nearly kills Trevor by stabbing him in the back. (Kind of a dumb plot point since it's resolved with a 'btw, Trevor lived' outcome.) And I was 100% sure if that happened, then Sypha was going to take Isaac out the same way Mako took out Ming-Hua in Legend of Korra.
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danepopfrippery · 2 years
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Okay this is my money prediction:
However fast Colin ages hes clearly going to be very close to uncle memo. And we’re pretty sure the last ep has to have something to do with colin’s memories (but we know how wwdits can clown us).
My prediction is Guillermo was planning to shore up funds to live a real life and leave, as both something he is rightfully owed and something he needs to have to go live a real life (moving etc right now is a pain in the ass, imagine if u had 10 years of little money to help it and no job history).
We’ve all believed Guillermo was skimming before and from the victims they ate. But then he had a year assumedly without that money. Nevermind that could have never been enough to live a real life.
I think Colin will prbly help Guillermo with wherever the money is stored, there has to be something from his jobs, any investing, all the years of little expenses. I think its gonna come down to Guillermo having the real chance to flee with enough money to set himself up…
And we’ll prbly be left with him deciding whether hes gonna do it or not
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fandomn00blr · 1 year
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Aside from the very real fear of being sued by Liam Hemsworth and making their future working relationship awkward, why hasn't Joey Batey done a cover of Flowers yet?
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jaystarroyco · 2 years
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i don’t think it’s Logan that dies I think it’s Ewan 👀
I think we’ll get to explore Logan’s own sibling dynamics more which would be. So interesting
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metaphoric-aliens · 2 years
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as much as I am also team handprint agenda for malex, they have been harping on bonnie figuring out how to be a “giver.” I wonder if she’s gonna have something to do with alex’s healing.
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kendallville · 1 year
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What logically could happen to Ken in s04?
I really don't know. At the end of s03 he seems pretty much at peace with the fact that he won't be Logan's successor. I think he might really be ready to let go of this poisonous dream, even though it is was the force of his life for so long. There's some calm resignation about his relation with his dad. It is what it is. There are things he won't get, things he won't hear.
He connects with his siblings for the first time in a long time. And they try to do something together. But now they know what he did. And at some point they will use it.
Logically someone could use waiter's death to blackmail Ken or just send cops on him. Since Logan has been the part of the cover up, it makes sense that not him, but one of the siblings would use it.
For him the best thing would be to come clean, confess, to Boy's parents, to the world or even to Stewy. Take responsibility.
How could Ken be happy? Can he be happy, is there even a possibility?
I would want a happy end for him, really. For me the hug with Stewy could be the last scene of the show. But we know that's not the case in Succession.
What are your thoughts? What will happen to Ken? How will this end?
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milflessinseattle · 2 years
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marcia should fuck ewan in season 4 she deserves a moment to be in a bit of a silly goofy mood
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byler-is-endgame7 · 2 years
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jason is saying that chrissy would never buy drugs. the phrase "straight as an arrow" means honest or genuine. it turns out the jason was wrong about chrissy and that she actually was buying drugs, proving that she wasn't exactly how jason thought she was.
now where else have we seen an arrow?
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HMMMMMM
i WONDER who we've seen who hasn't been being truthful or honest??? mike's not "as straight as an arrow", he's not what everyone thought he was.
not to mention the arrow was YELLOW.
AND this happened as suzie's house where everything was foreshadowed.
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dont-tell-them-i-died · 8 months
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au where everything is the same but instead of losing their powers the umbrellas all get completely different powers like a day after they get to the rebooted universe. And these are the powers they would get
Luther: basically what Sean Spencer pretends to be
Diego: the ability to plant thoughts or emotions in someone else's brain
Allison: she actually still has the same power since she was the one to press the button
Klaus: the ability to transfer any inanimate object from where they are to where he is but only if nobody is holding it
Five: being aware of the fact that he's in a show but not being able to do anything about it other than looking at/talking to the audience without anyone noticing like in that show fleabag
Ben: having control over the weather
Viktor: the ability to freeze people in place like in freeze tag but only up to three at a time and it lasts ten minutes
Lila: can talk to animals and convince them to attack anyone to the best of their abilities, but only one species at a time
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gxthicupid · 10 days
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𝗟𝗘𝗚𝗢 𝗠𝗼𝗻𝗸𝗶𝗲 𝗞𝗶𝗱 𝗧𝗛𝗘𝗢𝗥𝗜𝗘𝗦 + 𝗣𝗥𝗘𝗗𝗜𝗖𝗧𝗜𝗢𝗡𝗦
𝗡𝗘 𝗭𝗛𝗔 𝗔𝗚𝗘 𝗧𝗛𝗘𝗢𝗥𝗬
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I know this theory has been talked about a lot, but I would like to put my own thoughts and opinions about Ne Zha’s age. Of course, Ne Zha died at the age of 12, yet in the series; considered to be a somewhat spin-off/sequel to the Journey to the West novel, he appears to be physically an adult.
Understandably, some people wanted to defend the idea of Ne Zha physically and mentally grown since Journey to the West by using other country’s beliefs of Ne Zha depicted as an adult, however, other countries still depict Ne Zha as a child, and the crew for LEGO Monkie Kid revealed he was canonically a child during Season 4, Episode 5 “The Court of the Yellow-Robed Demon”. This leaves to the question of how he managed to appear older. 
I have been pondering on the idea for quite some time, and while going through several posts of people’s headcanons, references from other media depicting the other characters from Journey to the West, I have come to a conclusion. 
To support this theory, I will be using Macaque as an example to answer the mystery behind Ne Zha’s sudden ageing in LEGO Monkie Kid. It has become abundantly clear Macaque has a missing eye, and in the Season 3, Episode 8, “Benched”, while trying to retrieve the third Samadhi Ring from Tang, for a split second, the tip of his tail becomes slightly white. 
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While going through fanart, people often depict Macaque, having glamorised his looks in order to hide his features (i.e., his scarred eye). Saying that, I believe Ne Zha has adapted to glamorise his child form into an adult form, possibly from wanting to fit his mental age physically and feel comfortable. Macaque so far, hasn’t shown his true form for a prologue time, I believe Nezha can hold his adult form without any difficulty. 
𝗠𝗞’𝗦 𝗠𝗢𝗧𝗛𝗘𝗥 𝗠𝗢𝗥𝗔𝗟𝗜𝗧𝗬 𝗧𝗛𝗘𝗢𝗥𝗬
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Season 5 of LEGO Monkie Kid is bound to show Nuwa, or MK’s supposed mother, on the show. Most people are wanting Nuwa to be a loving and caring mother, however, I do not believe that will be the case considering the direction the show is taking on MK’s backstory.
In the Season 4 special “Emperor’s Wrath”, the Kings of Hell in the Underworld are shown to be devising a plan for the upcoming events for Season 5, and personally, I believe Nuwa will be some sort of secondary villain associated with the main plot in Season 5. 
I am predicting that Nuwa has some strong connections, or at the very least, is acquainted with the Kings of Hell. Perhaps in the past, the Kings of Hell held a grudge against Sun Wukong after erasing his name from the Book of the Dead.
They weren’t able to change the pages since the paper magically link to the people whose names are written, and possibly, recreating a new set of paper will negatively affect the other people’s mortality; which the Kings of Hell are not willing to risk. 
Leading to the Kings of Hell requesting the aid of the creator of humans, Nuwa, since the residents of the Celestial Realm are not going to approve such a dire plan without the approval of the Jade Emperor.
Maybe the Kings of Hell gained Nuwa’s interest throughout a promise with a type of reward at the end of deal, and making her create a lifeform with equal or stronger power than Sun Wukong.
From the flashback in Season 4 Episode 6, “Show Me The Monster'', there were several stone statues of various animals before the creation of MK (hinting there were several attempts to create the perfect lifeform). 
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The idea of creating MK as a mystic monkey probably links to the Journey to the West novel, in the chapter where Macaque shapeshifted into the Monkey King and deceives the other pilgrims; and before the reveal of the Six-Eared Macaque, it was stated that the imposter was close to Sun Wukong’s power level, which, I’m assuming, Nuwa took note.  
Since Season 4 has hinted that Sun Wukong had some sort of connection with MK before he was created, I am predicting that he possibly knew Nuwa as a friend before she became an acquaintance with the Kings of Hell. Nuwa used that relationship as an advantage to analyse his skills and powers, while discussing using Sun Wukong as a pawn to help MK to be trained by the Monkey King, in order for MK to unlock his powers later in life. 
Reasoning why I believe Sun Wukong isn’t aware of Nuwa is supported in the Season 4 special, “Emperor’s Wrath”, when Azure Lion was defeated, Sun Wukong questioned him who set him free from the Scroll of Memory, and Azure Lion had no recollection.
Supporting this theory, judging the age of MK when he first met Pigsy in Season 4, Episode 6, “Show Me The Monster”, he seemed to be around the age of 5 years old, which when he should some remembered of Nuwa or Sun Wukong to some degree, but it’s possibly she must have erased MK’s memories. This might be an ability that she might use in Season 5.  
Nuwa must have deceived Sun Wukong somehow to convince him to protect MK when he proves himself to have potential to become Sun Wukong’s successor, not only to allow MK’s abilities to develop and become stronger, but she might also use MK to spy on the Monkey King from afar.  
To support this theory, I will use the 5th Anniversary LEGO set of Monkie Kid, as Nuwa is seen to be in disguise while running a jade shop in Megapolis. Perhaps she purposely dropped MK off at Pisgy’s Noodles and lived around the city to observe MK and waited until he was ready to wield the staff. Sun Wukong must have done the same, but without the knowledge of Nuwa’s plan with the Kings of Hell (To learn Sun Wukong’s weaknesses for the sake of devising a plan).  
In the pilot episode of LEGO Monkie Kid, “A Hero is Born”, MK needed to deliver some noodles to a customer, but ended up dealing with the Demon Bull Family. Perhaps Nuwa also purposely made MK make the trip so that he can find Monkey King’s staff and allow MK to meet Sun Wukong and start training because Nuwa might have a deadline to finish her end of the deal, before the Kings of Hell will take action in Season 5.
𝗢𝗧𝗛𝗘𝗥 𝗠𝗬𝗦𝗧𝗜𝗖 𝗠𝗢𝗡𝗞𝗘𝗬𝗦 𝗣𝗥𝗘𝗗𝗜𝗖𝗧𝗜𝗢𝗡
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Connecting to the last theory, I believe there will be a likely chance that Season 5 will introduce the other mystic monkeys from the Journey to the West novel. Judging from the direction of the LEGO Monkie Kid series, there will be new characters introduced other than Nuwa, considering that Season 5 will focus more on MK’s past, and him learning how to control his monkey powers.
For those who aren’t aware, in the Journey to the West novel, it is canon that there are a total of four mystic monkeys, which includes Sun Wukong (Spirit Intelligent Stone Monkey) and Macaque (Six-Eared Macaque Monkey). 
The other two are known as the Red Butt Horse Monkey and the Pass through Arm Ape Monkey (using the translated names from the Chinese characters).
Since the series does slightly alternate the Journey to the West lore, perhaps the Red Butt Horse Monkey and Pass through Arm Ape Monkey were created before Sun Wukong and Macaque, and the idea of MK being a new mystic monkey existing in the LEGO Monkie Kid show does bring their attention and they will contribute to the main conflict of Season 5 (Perhaps they know much more about the upcoming conflict with the Kings of Hell and MK’s monkey power awakening).
This prediction might be a bit of a stretch, but since MK’s monkey powers will most likely be one of the main focuses for the plot of Season 5, I believe these two monkeys are willing to become an influence; both negatively and positively.
Reasoning for this prediction is connected to the fact that the Red Butt Horse Monkey is known to have the ability to avoid death and lengthen its life, which I believe might lead the show to make an alliance with Nuwa and the Kings of Hell. 
Meanwhile, the Pass through Arm Ape Monkey might be helping MK through his glitching when it comes to his monkey form, and might have more knowledge about dealing with  MK’s problem than Monkey King.
To support this theory, in Season 4, Episode 7, “Pitiful Creatures”, when Wukong first sees MK’s glitching, he looks like he doesn’t look like he know how to deal this side-effect of unlocking the monkey powers, considering that Sun Wukong and Macaque were already created as monkeys and were able control their powers. 
The Pass through Arm Ape Monkey might have known of MK’s existence through the battle against Azure Lion in the Season 4 special, “Emperor’s Wrath”, as the sky and the whole world was breaking apart, and since the Pass through Arm Ape Monkey can manipulate the moon and stars.
It could be the reason why the Red Butt Horse Monkey told Nuwa and the Kings of Hell about MK’s powers.  
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I don’t have anything else to say about this theory/prediction. However, if the series doesn’t show them, there HAS to be some influence, Easter eggs, etc. connecting to these mystic monkeys.
𝗠𝗜𝗦𝗦𝗜𝗡𝗚 𝗗𝗘𝗠𝗢𝗡 𝗕𝗨𝗟𝗟 𝗞𝗜𝗡𝗚 𝗕𝗔𝗖𝗞𝗦𝗧𝗢𝗥𝗬 𝗣𝗥𝗘𝗗𝗜𝗖𝗧𝗜𝗢𝗡
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Aside from Sun Wukong and Macaque having their pasts explored, the series does have the Demon Bull King appearance in these flashbacks since he was once a member of the Brotherhood, first revealed in Season 4, Episode 2, “New Adventures”, as everyone is discussing who will be the next Jade Emperor after overthrowing the current one.
From this single flashback alone, DBK was shown to be a good guy, fighting alongside his sworn brothers for they thought was right, and it does beg the question: What made him change his morality from good to bad?
In the pilot, Season 1, “A Hero is Born”, he is first introduced as the main antagonist whose goal is to conquer the world, and suddenly Sun Wukong traps him under a mountain despite DBK being his sworn brother. This minor detail is very unusual considering that in Season 3, Episode 10 “The Samadhi Fire”, showcases Sun Wukong, Demon Bull King and Ne Zha helping to separate the Samadhi Fire from Redson as a child.
Judging from this scene, the event must have taken place post to the Journey to the West, as the Monkey King isn’t wearing the circlet, as most of the flashbacks which are taking place in the Journey to the West shows him wearing the circlet given from Tang Sanzang. The pilot does show Sun Wukong wearing the same suit of armour as in Season 3, Episode 10 “The Samadhi Fire”, and it's strange how the Monkey King went from helping the Demon Bull King to fighting him. 
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Either something happened between the events of removing of the Samadhi Fire and the events occurred in the pilot, or off-screen there was some conflict between the two, but set a temporary truce to help Redson with the Samadhi Fire.
The most assumed event that could pinpoint the morality change of the Demon Bull King would be when he and Princess Iron Fan met during the battle against Heaven. However, I highly doubt that. Since this event took place before the birth of Redson, and if Demon Bull King and Sun Wukong didn’t have conflict during this time period, then this accusation would be inaccurate. 
This wasn’t a theory or a prediction, however, I REALLY do feel like talking about this since it’s been bugging me for quite some time. I hope that Season 5 will be able to resolve this plot hole and perhaps it might correlate with the main plot of the next.
While I do hope, I also doubt it since the Demon Bull Family has not had much screen time in recent seasons. But simultaneously, I bet there will be a chance since the new 5th Anniversary LEGO set does display Redson working at the BBQ restaurant in Megapolis, so maybe a slim chance. 
I was going to talk about Peng and Erlang working together in Season 5, considering the current conflict with the Monkie Gang and Peng, and due to the fact that Erlang is a cousin? Brother? Or a family member of the Jade Emperor according to the Journey to the West novel, and wanted to avenge his death.
(Probably ignore this one, this was a last minute theory)
But I didn’t know what else to talk about and it does seem like the two will be working on their own.  
Anyways, I hope you all enjoy the theories that I have come up with. I haven’t gotten the chance to re-watch all of the episodes of LEGO Monkie Kid, so I mostly relied on my memory. Leave some comments about your thoughts and theories of the series or what will happen in Season 5.    
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nysocboy · 4 months
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Season 4 Big Bad
In every season of The Righteous Gemstones, an estraged friend or relative shows up. They drive the plot, becoming either the season's Big Bad or a red herring: Gideon (Season 1), Junior (Season 2), The Montgomerys (Season 3).
What estranged person do you think will show up in Season 4? Another of Eli or Aimee-Leigh's siblings, or another of Jesse's sons, would be repetitious. Maybe Kelvin's college roommate (and ex boyfriend), now a Jerry Falwell-like homophobic spokesperson? Or one of Baby Billy's ex-wives, a famous Gospel singer who claims that Aimee-Leigh stole her signature song?
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murdererofthumbs · 11 months
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Seeing reactions after this episode is actually slightly hysterical? It proves that this fandom can be so blind-sighted by characters relations, that they forget what show they are watching. Like, I have always been a self-proclaimed Roman-girl, because I find him compelling and extremely psychologically interesting, and like all of these characters, to a certain extent, I do empathise with him on the level of trauma that he went through. But why the fuck are people surprised that THIS is how he behaved in this episode is beyond me. Oh, suddenly Roman is dead to you because he behaved in the way that was very much consistent with who he is? That’s who all of these people are, like come on, what do we think we are watching here? You didn’t really think he will suddenly become a defender of democracy because it serves a greater good of the country? He was the one to fucking choose Mencken as a president, he cherry-picked him for Logan, because he knew that their views align, that Mencken will be a smart business decision. This whole thing is a transactional procedure - they needed to get someone who will be willing to serve their corrupt interests. Roman doesn’t see a problem in having fascist as a president, because he will never be touched by the consequences of having that kind of man in power. He is very much safe at the top of the mountain, and who the fuck cares what will happen to the peasants at the bottom of the chain? In this way, he imitates Logan the most, because in the end of the day, people are units to him, to all of them really, some of them are just more willing to admit this than others.
Also, like, “uuu, Roman was such a misogynist to Shiv this episode, he just didn’t listen to her at all”. Look, can we stop being delusional here for a second or is it some sort of selective memory situation? Roman is a misogynist. Kendall is a misogynist. Shiv, in fact, has a lot of internalised misogyny going on, and her being a woman never stopped her from pushing other women under the fucking bus, so let’s be real here for a second. And that is not to be said in defence of Roman, frankly nothing what I’m saying here is supposed to justify his behaviour in this or any other episode, but it’s more of like… reality check? I know that Roman’s self-destructive spiral and semi-decent behaviour at the beginning of this season might have clouded certain aspects of who he is, but please, go back to season 3 and count all the instances of him throwing misogynistic and, frequently incestuous jokes and innuendo, at Shiv? How many times he undermines her position on the basis of her being a woman? Or how Kendall, for that matter, uses similar arguments in 03x02? All the siblings use aspects of each other as weapons. Kendall is undermined because he is unstable, because he is a drug-addict, because he has a tendency of flying off on the cloud of mania, and crashing in the heap of depression. Shiv is crossed out because she is a woman, because she frankly has no real experience in the firm (which, although people might be super angry about that, because she is such a “girlboss” apparently, but this is a factual argument), because of her relationship to Tom and tendency to take several sides at the same time (with not much thought put into it). And Roman is frequently undermined because he is a freak and a pervert, because “there is something wrong with him”, because he is the weakest dog that is most easily manipulated, who crumples like a wet tissue if only to receive a bit of affection. They all weaponise their “weak” points against each other, because this dog-eats-dog mindset is focal to who they are as a family, to how they were brought up, to how Logan wanted them to be. So please, let’s not be surprised, when Roman suddenly uses misogyny as an argument against Shiv, because it’s not sudden at all, and it’s always been there.
I think what we have on our hands, is the same situation we had in 03x07 during Kendall’s birthday (and previous episode with Mencken), where some people are so outraged by Roman, and by his ability to shove the knife where it hurts, that they suddenly cross him out completely. Again, all these characters are bad people, there was never any doubt about that. They are compelling because of the complexities of their familial relationships, because of their childhood trauma and the consequences that this trauma has on them as adults. But they are still completely reprehensible as human beings, and I think some viewers forget about that and then get outraged when show about awful people features awful people. And I’m sure, either in next or final episode, something will happen and Roman will become sympathetic again, and he will regain his position as a “poor meow meow”, just as he did in the finale of season 3. Its always a fucking carousel with this character and people get sucked in and have their eye’s covered just to realise that nothing really changed, and nothing will change, because in this show people, at their core, remain the same.
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danepopfrippery · 2 years
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Ive made a lot of predictions but im making and standing by this one: however 4 ends, its going to end with Guillermo and Nandor having it out about how they feel. We might not get a lot, in fact i doubt we’ll get more than a kiss (if that) before the cliffhanger whatever it may be.
I remember watching the 3 finale and being like ‘omfg they are doing this’ but they stopped juuuuust short of it
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