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1x10 | 4x8
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bartowskis · 2 years
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“A lotto ticket? It’s the last thing on my bucket list.”
— RICKY (& NINI) in High School Musical: The Musical: The Series (Season 3, Episode 8)
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clubglee · 2 years
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HIGH SCHOOL MUSICAL THE MUSICAL THE SERIES (2019-)
1.01 | “The Auditions” 2.01 | “New Year’s Eve” 3.08 | “Let It Go”
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soursfilms · 8 months
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“ever since you discovered boys you spend way too much time trying to see yourself through their eyes” - season 1 episode 5
the moment kourtney said this to nini, and when nini sang out of the old, a song about wanting to leave your old town and start something new, it always made it known to me that at the end nini was getting some feminist type of ending. so even if rina wasn’t a thing or even if rini lasted longer, i always had a gut instinct nini’s journey was away from east high and she was going to “choose herself” in the very end. her going back to ricky regressed her character growth. it was made clear by kourtney that nini saw herself through his eyes, and nini herself mentioned she needed to find herself (she literally told ricky these exact words in an argument in the first episodes about how she found herself at camp, away from him) the show perfectly showcased this in the first season and second season. this wasn’t just added spontaneously, it’s been there since season one. to deny that is to admit you never understood her character in the first place. for people to still not see that is beyond me. olivia wrote and sung so many nini songs that depict this (the rose song spells it out perfectly) and yet people still aren’t actually listening or understanding the lyrics, it’s honestly sad.
“olivia leaving” didn’t change anything. these themes with her character have been there since season one. as i just described by taking two examples from the first season. which was written and recorded way before olivia blew up. it’s honestly tiring that people purposely ignore this because they have a one dimensional view of the show and believe they’re right. or that the writer/creator of these characters and show is “lying” as if they know more then the man who created these characters in the first place.
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blues-valentine · 2 years
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Ricky only having one item left to complete his bucket list which is a metaphor of his childhood and passage to growing up. Ricky and Big Red talking about Ricky's birthday and how scary it feels growing up. Nini being the person to give Ricky the lotto ticket at the end (his last item to cross off from the list). This basically confirms that Nini always represented his childhood. Ricky wrote that bucket list when he was a little kid and got it completed with the help of Nini, his childhood. Now he can truly be ready to embrace his life, now he is ready to grow up and leave his childhood behind. Nini was Ricky’s childhood. Gina represents his future.
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thstarsofsilver · 2 years
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i still don’t think we talk enough about how heartbreaking it would be for ej caswell to be not his best self and lose a girl to ricky bowen, then go on a long hard journey of self-development and self-improvement, learning to be a more outward-looking & genuine person and finally begin to gain confidence in his new, better self and STILL lose a girl to ricky bowen.
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amesscott · 26 days
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#RINI: you’re just a stranger i know everything about
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rinisbowen · 9 months
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also... not to be a rini in the tags in 2023 when y'all don't seem to allow that for no good reason but...
the implications of mike and lynne sitting next to kourtney's mom...
the fact that ricky's parents and kourtney's parents have probably known each other since the kids were in elementary school... because kourtney and nini have been besties since they were in elementary school (actual timing unknown), and ricky and nini have been best friends since kindergarten...
so since their kids are best friends with nini they all end up hanging out together a good amount or at least going to a lot of the same events and things and so the parents have probably been like- at least somewhat of friends over the years... and i just. soft. like i know they were probably seated together for convenience of getting the shots, but- in universe it's so wonderful to think about how all these people are connected...
and the fact if we get a moment of them talking... we could get a mention of it being weird being at a musical nini's not in... Yeah. that's not on my priority list of nini mentions, but- could be cute...
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fandom-addict404 · 8 months
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Just watched season 4 of HSMTMTS and besides the fact that there are an incredible amount of plot holes, I’m mad about the fact that they never addressed the issue that I imagine many wanted addresses canonically. And that’s Ricky Bowen’s anxiety. He had a clear anxiety issue, especially considering his problems with change and fear of losing people. I really wish he saw some kind of therapist or has a diagnosis that was discussed in the show. I think it would’ve been great representation and a good way to expand on Ricky’s character as a whole.
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we agree ricky is bi right- i mean, “friends? enemies? … lovers???? 😍” like that look to camera man
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nanceluvbot · 2 years
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cue uma “ you didn’t think this was the end of the story, did you?”
now i know she’s leaving the show but she can always pull a nina dobrev at the end of the series IM JUST SAYING!!!
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Rini + Hugs
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*on the way to the New Year’s Eve party in S2E1*
Nini: Do you have to sing?
Ricky: I always sing when I’m in a good mood!
Nini: Do you have to be in a good mood?
Ricky: Why wouldn’t I be?!
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oliviarodrigostan · 1 year
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✌🏼😆💜✌🏼😆💜
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soursfilms · 2 years
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this is my first post and maybe my only post here because i usually just lurk, like and comment, but portwells and rinis make these three questions/comments a lot especially with recent events, and i just want to talk about them and answer them for you. hopefully this will answer it and give you a different perspective. 
(i don’t mean to come across as rude im just very brutally honest with the way i talk. so if you get easily angry or upset scroll, but im going to tag all ships in the tags because again, im answering questions/comments i see in the tag a lot and im not hating on the ships or characters by any means, im not an anti, im just answering. so if you’re open for an open minded conversation keep reading. i don’t want to hear that you weren’t warned or that i didn’t tag anti * tags because like i said, im not an anti)
one;
“if nini was in season three the season would look very different” *regarding ricky and gina*
the show has established in season two they were no good for each other right now and ricky hated who he was becoming. (which are words that came out of canon ricky’s mouth. a fact.) if you like nini you would also know her arc was about finding herself and doing things for herself. so why would they put her with ricky again in season three? that’s not a second chance that’s their millionth one! jk* i can go on a rant about how the show foreshadowed their downfall since season one from the moment ricky’s mom said “not all couples are meant to be together” but i won’t because that can be biased and im not trying to do that in this post.
ricky’s unresolved feelings for gina were always there. they never had closure. it was only a matter of time until they’d have to circle back to it and address them. the show let rini go in a beautiful way id highly doubt they’d go back to it in season three after they just broke up for a second time. as a nini stan id be pissed if they did. (i love all the characters btw)
tim has said in an interview the rini breakup was planned before “drama” happened. so no, it’s not because of that rini is over. he also said in an interview, when asked about the rina flashback, that it was filmed in season one, so it was planned. also mentioned a comment, that they’re, “seeds being planted for the future” again another fact he said. (like i said, im not here to bash or be petty, just answering your questions with facts. im not pulling these quotes out of thin air.)
i think a lot of you can’t accept that tim federle is obviously going for a girl falls first boy falls harder trope with ricky and gina. which is the oldest teen drama trope in the book. he draws inspiration from old teen dramas, like dawson’s creek (which he has mentioned a lot!) a show where the protagonist ends up with her second love. very familiar situation here, right?
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 “that’s his third choice”
ricky didn’t choose nini over gina because gina was not there to be chosen. SHE MOVED. she ignored his texts, told him to never call her again. so tell me how he was going to “choose” gina? especially when the show runner has said he was “clinging to his past with nini.” (another fact he said in an interview)
they took gina away for ricky to acknowledge nini again. missed a whole episode without her.
when you choose both options need to be available to you and gina was not. 
lily wasn’t even a choice because by then gina was not even speaking to him! she ignored his attempt to partner in 206 and he gave her space. lily was a rebound, he disliked her and the canon show made that clear. 
at the end of the day being around someone you have unresolved feelings for will resurface them. ricky liking gina is nothing new. we knew they mutually liked each other in season one.
he never made “choices” their timing was just never right. 
this perception you all have with being first, second or third choice is very weird? because by that logic isn’t ej gina’s “second choice” because she couldn’t have ricky? yeah okay.
you’re all confusing bad timing for “second options”
second love ≠ second choice
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“what about all this ej and gina development” is simply answered with, that was clearly a plot device ship. you didn’t see their first kiss, didn’t get pay off when they were together only five seconds at the beginning of summer and so much more, it was very evident where it was going…
gina NEEDED relationship experience before she ever got with ricky. she needed to move on so ricky could be the one pining, because that’s how the trope works and they’re filling out all the boxes for it. 
you all hate ricky and gina because you see their season two angst as this unforgivable thing when ricky never hurt her intentionally. she was sad because he was in a relationship and she couldn’t be with him the way she wanted to. the same thing ricky is going through now.
this fandom can’t understand good angst because you expect everything to be sunshine and rainbows and that’s not how teen dramas work. they’re teenagers! they make mistakes! ricky made his but guess what? he’s paying for it now 10X worse. 
now ej is making his mistakes, which is actually what season two did to ricky. he was the “villain” and you all hated him (when he was just going through a lot) and then, here comes ej being put in a more positive light and being the “prince in shining armor” to gina’s story. (i can go on a rant about this and the writing and the double standards you all have for those two characters, but i won’t…)
at the end of the day they all “deserve” love. and im sorry but we can all see where the writing for this show is going towards and a lot of you are being bitter about it, which understandable, (i understand not liking seeing ej’s character be the one used for this development for the main character’s benefit) but missing the point completely to fit your narrative. calling rina a “third, second, etc choice” or “wouldn’t happen if nini didn’t leave” or “fan service” is just false and extremely petty. you can say you hate the ship, but making up false statements is ???
especially when i can pull different scenes from season one and two that debunks those arguments that “ricky never cared for gina” he was glancing at her in new years, basically told gina they were each others confidants in 203 “we do that for each other” etc. obviously they weren’t strong because he was in a relationship just like gina’s feelings aren’t strong now because she’s ALSO in a relationship. however, that doesn’t take away the fact they were always left unresolved, for the both of them.
and this is all i have to say on that!
we all have our opinions but some of you think and believe your opinion is a fact when it’s not. i just debunked these comments/arguments for you with facts and you don’t have to agree with me or like the ship (you can ship whatever. you can hate rina, it doesn’t matter.) but a lot of your opinions aren’t a fact when it’s not what the canon show is telling you.
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blues-valentine · 2 years
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Ricky’s love for Gina is so different from his love for Nini. And this is a good thing because his love for Nini was very selfish and insecure. Ricky's actions towards Gina reflect his growth.
S1 Ricky projected everything that was going on with his parents onto his relationship with Nini. He thought his dad was wrong for not fighting to save the relationship with his mom. He did not understand at the time that people change and grow apart. He put everything into gaining Nini back despite her own happiness. He ignored how she said the HSM musical was important for her, how she said being at camp helped her come out of her shelf. He ignored the times she asked him to step back. His mind was focused on getting her back and even had a master plan in getting her to break up with EJ. He wasn’t the reason for their break up but he tried and was happy for it. That was what love meant for him. He thought fighting to get Nini back despite them growing apart was the right thing to do for him/them. He was selfish.
I’m not saying Ricky didn’t love Nini. He did. They loved each other, which is why they got back together but their relationship has never been about them not loving each other but about them not longer being compatible. A lot of people don’t get that getting back with her stopped Ricky's character development. He got back with Nini, so what’s next? Things are still changing and he is still resisting it. This made Nini reluctant to share things with him. She felt stock in her relationship with him. Ricky tried to be supportive of Nini but the farther away she was going – the more paranoid he got. The nail in the coffin was the song and deleting Nini's comments because the idea of her achieving her dreams and leaving scared him. He knew he was wrong which is why he admits he didn’t like the person he was becoming in order to keep their relationship. Ricky letting go of Nini was finally accepting the inevitable. Neither of them were progressing in that relationship. It hurt but it was necessary for Ricky to understand that.
2A Ricky was so in his mind about Nini that he didn’t notice how much Gina was suffering. The switch in 2B Ricky was instant after he let her go. He helped Carlos write his song for Seb and became a lot more involved with the theater. Nini and Ricky had one of the best closures and their relationship after that felt more natural. Ricky had the time to organically move on from Nini. It’s been months since their break up and both of them are so much better for it.
S3 Ricky is literally fighting to not go back to how he used to be ("I'm never going back to who I've been. I'm taking my time, won't be defined by who I was back then."). S1 Ricky would’ve done anything to sabotage Gina’s relationship with EJ at the first sign of trouble. He would’ve used him playing romantic leads with Gina to insert his feelings onto her like he did with Troy – this Ricky apologized to Gina for being too intense during rehearsals. This Ricky doesn’t want his feelings for Gina to be known. He is literally helping both of them fix their relationship despite how much it hurts him. Ricky's love for Gina is selfless. He knows this musical means everything to her. He is doing everything in his power to not become disruptive in their relationship and her big break. He is putting her needs before his own – something he didn’t do with Nini. He is not only showing up and staying – but making everyone else around him show up for her, including EJ.
Ricky is a way more mature version of himself. He is becoming more empathetic and receptive to other's peoples needs and feelings. He is finally stepping back (and watching) for Gina. He might be hurting inside but he won’t tell. This Ricky is the Ricky that could’ve been ready for Gina on S1. He left her slip through his fingers because if only he was ready then, they’ll be together by now. S1-2 Ricky was not ready to be with Gina – this Ricky is. Nini was Ricky's first love but not his only love. Gina is the love Ricky needs because she is the proof of his character finally accepting change.
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