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#racism in media
black-is-beautiful18 · 2 months
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If your fav white character can have godhood status without anyone objecting and having to prove themself then so can characters of color.
If your fav white character can one shot somebody then so can characters of color.
If your fav white character can be angry then so can characters of color.
If your fav white character can be the savior then so can characters of color.
If your fav white character can be loved unconditionally THEN SO CAN CHARACTERS OF COLOR.
Y’all constantly want characters of color to struggle and that’s a problem. They can never just exist. They can never be powerful just because. They can’t be anything without y’all questioning why they have the right to be that way. It’s racism. Point blank period. Constantly questioning why marginalized characters aren’t struggling, why they get to show off their powers and just be is racist. The fact y’all don’t hesitate to do it either makes it even more obvious. Like what do you mean Storm not struggling does a disservice to marginalized characters??? Or that Hazel despite being super powerful doesn’t deserve to be in the seven??? Or that Bree is annoying when she is a grieving 16 year old???? What do you mean by that??????
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gritsandbrits · 1 year
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No but the fact sloppy hollow got cancelled after they k'd off abbie bc half the audience were black women and watched it for her alone & dropped the series after that
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papillaee · 4 months
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People don't realize that calling faunus names associated with animals WOULD be fine if there wasn't any faunus racism and if it wasn't established that using those fucking names is considered offensive in canon. And the fact that they established this in canon but still make human characters use these words against faunus to be cute and funny is contradictory and tone deaf. That's why a lot of characters end up sounding like fucking racist jerks even if that wasn't the writer's intention.
If crwby just made faunus a simple and quirky animal people race, they could just do that. It would be fine. But they chose to follow the fictional racism route, which is a plot device they clearly don't have the maturity and critical skills to follow.
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dragynkeep · 11 months
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Black people in RWBY either gets sexualized or demonized I fucking hate it hereeeee
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& added on because i had no further space but the company behind this show is incredibly antiblack. there was documented abuse of a notable black woman, including telling her to kill herself & writing the n slur around the workplace that continued until hr famous father had to get involved & call them out.
miles has said the n slur. other employees have done blackface & also said antiblack slurs. various antiblack stereotypes have also been employed in the show, including the basis of flynt's entire character.
as well as centering all of these black characters around their white counterparts. they are not allowed to exist in their own space without becoming a white characters subservient, villain or thrown off screen.
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katherinakaina · 5 months
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Think what you will of Daniil Dankovsky but his story is NOT a white savior story. Not even a little bit.
And it's peculiar, isn't it? We are so accustomed to white savior narrative, so when we see a character who's in the perfect spot to become one, but doesn't, we read him as hostile. How can you see this struggling population and NOT decide to lead the revolution to save them? Are you a heartless monster?
Racism in Pathologic is not its strongest storyline. But it is fairly realistic. It shows all aspects of discrimination. Starting with slave labor segregation and lynchings and ending with prejudice microaggressions and cultural appropriation (*coughs* Stamatins) simultaneously with cultural genocide. We see how the whole society is shaped by this conflict and there's not a part of it that isn't affected by colonialism. Once again the town on Gorkhon is our world.
And into this centuries worth of history arrives a dude on a completely unrelated mission. And he is appalled by what he sees but what is he going to do? Singlehandedly solve racism? Maybe one day, but here and now he has a bit of a more urgent situation at hand.
In the end Daniil seems to be resenting the town. Not as much as to destroy it just out of pure hate. But he will not go out of his way to save it either. And he thinks (I think he is correct) he has a valid reason why it should be destroyed (still, it shouldn't be).
People sometimes read his hatred for the town as his disdain for the local culture but the culture is racist! Most of the town is segregated white settlement. Most of the people Daniil interacts with are white racists and he hates them.
He doesn't believe in local myths but why would he? He was not raised with them and he does not fetishize them either (*coughs* Vlad the Younger). He does believe in local medicine and his own vaccine is based on Isidor's methodology (that's why Rubin actually creates it, not Daniil). So he is willing to adopt the practices that are useful but now I gather people will say he exploits them (which is a more interesting point, I'm surprised that I've never seen it made before).
So yes, Daniil doesn't abandon everything to save the Steppe culture and liberate the Kin. He believes that the town's foundation is rotten to the core. The plague is a metaphor for fascism and it keeps coming back. We have to start anew. The master's tools will never dismantle the master's house. And Daniil is willing to bulldoze all of it.
You could even say that in some galaxy brain take way he IS a white savior, because he destroys the entire system. But no. The future utopia led by the Kains does not look like a multiracial democracy. It seems like the Kin were pretty much severed from their land and culture even more, if they even survived at all. It is not good. I disagree with the utopian ending.
Daniil is not a character who can do it alone. A white guy will not be able to consider everything when it comes to the perfect future. He can't figure it out. He is not a savior. It is not because he's malicious. But oh boy does he have shortcomings.
Give him a girl friend and a steppe friend. I bet they'll be able to get along.
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catsfurrealzx3 · 2 months
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LET'S TALK ABOUT ZECORA!!!!!!!!!!
So we all know that the season 1 episode 9 of My Little Pony is the one where the ponies first meet Zecora, a mysterious Zebra that the whole of Ponyville finds frightening. I'm sure many of you are aware that it's a blatant allegory for racism, and for a children's show it does EXTREMELY well. It shows how fear of the unknown is such an extreme part of the human brain, as well as describing how this fear can be dangerous and even fatal. When the episode begins, five of the Mane 6 are already decided on their stance against Zecora, so when Twilight (who's more educated on the subject, and therefore more open to suggestion/changing of opinions) enters the scene, she's immediately bombarded with information from her most trusted friends about how evil Zecora is. She's skeptical at first, and tries to convince the others of her standpoint, but as the episode moves on, her opinion changes -due to miscommunication- to match that of her friend's. When the Mane 6 finally take a moment and actually talk to Zecora, they find out that she's been trying to help them throughout the entire episode, and due to their fear, they heard and understood none of what she was trying to say. The whole episode goes on a deep dive in explaining fear of the unknown, the connection between knowledge and judgement, and even how children are often significantly more open to change and new standpoints (E.G. how Applebloom is the first character to actually reach out to Zecora and find out who she really is). My point is, if a children's TV show created 14 years ago can do such an educated and intelligent analysis on racism (and bigotry in general) and still make it easy to understand for little kids, then we could ALL be doing better. We SHOULD all be doing better. Do better.
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heymrsamerica · 2 years
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Honorable mentions:
The last SAMURAI- white.
Prince of PERSIA- white.
Just shut up.
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the-path-to-redemption · 10 months
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I swear to fucking God if the meta reason why Adam's face was branded and Miles' stupid fucking comment about it was in anyway related to the Disney version of the Beauty and the Beast story, where the most popularized, shitty take of "the prince was turn into a monster because he was a brat", I will release rats into their office to rip the cables to shreds.
If Adam's branding, his fucking torture and permanent disfigurement was in anyway because they wanted to stick to the Disney version where "he got disfigured because he was a brat who fought back", I will send hornets into their fucking vents. Do fucking NOT.
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keybearer92 · 1 year
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I Think Im done with the Interview With Vampire/ Anne Rice Subreddits
Outside of informational posts and people theorizing about the show and characters I think Im over the cesspool of individuals that are on those threads. Especially with posts like this.
This was my response to this thread because I just couldn’t take it anymore
The obsession a lot of these folks have with the characters being white is something I find just plain weird. Now its to the point people want to fancast characters, overlooking talent because of a skin tone. It’s just downright disrespectful to the actors who only want to give their best performances for these characters. Just blatantly ignoring all the love and care that has gone into making this show a reality. These folks truly dont deserve ANYTHING.
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cbrownjc · 1 year
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What do you think of the Twitter discourse that they are gonna stop watching the show if lestat becomes the main character or that he doesn't deserve redemption.
This is even after it was established that louis is an unreliable narrator just as the books and now they keep saying that if Louis' events turn out to be false it's racism
It's really putting down my excitement all this toxicity
Hey Anon,
My quick advice? Stay off Twitter.
That's pretty much it. Because I frankly don't care what those over there saying these things think. I haven't really given it any thought or paid any attention to what's being said over there.
I've said it once, and I'll repeat it: people looking for absolutes when it comes to these characters? And some kind of cautionary tale or something wrt the story? This was never going to be the show/story for them anyway. All the vampires in Rice's world are all various degrees of immoral, toxic, and unethical. They are monsters. Beautiful monsters. But monsters. Including Louis.
And if people don't want to see or accept that at this point? Well, then, they probably should stop watching. Because no, I don't think those facts about these characters are something that should ever be changed.
And frankly, trying to chalk Louis up to being an unreliable narrator as racism is just, to me, looking for an excuse to not see any of these faults in Louis' own character IMO.
And look, I understand. Sometimes we, as black people, can be overly sensitive wrt black characters' portrayal in media, with good reason. Racist stereotypes, sidelining black characters in stories, etc. To this day, they are things that are rightly talked about and called out. Because they do still happen.
But sometimes, on rare occasions, it can also lead to not wanting any nuance whatsoever wrt black characters too. For a way to avoid any deeply significant character faults that can't just be waved away.
And Louis, as a character, has those types of faults to a T.
That's always been his character. The race change has added more layers to Louis' character (particularly his pre-vampire life traumas). Still, the core of Louis' character from the books - the snobbish hypocrite, the catholic guilt, the most human yet ruthless killer of them, the unreliability of his story as a way to deal with his depression and guilt - remains the same in the show. And that is not racism.
And frankly, I don't think we'll need to get to the Lestat POV-focused Season 3 for those truths about Louis to be hammered home even more wrt his character. Season 2 will do it just fine (if you know the ITWV story.)
I know this all has to do with EP5. And just let me be clear no, I don't think they are going to say Louis lied about the fight or something. The majority of the fight was shot from Claudia's POV. So it DID happen. But we never got Louis' POV about it as it happened - only the very end when he was taken into the air and the aftermath. So there is something purposefully being kept from the viewers about it. But whether it happened or not, isn't it. Again, it was shot from Claudia's POV, so it did happen. The unreliable narrator part of Louis isn't going to be used to declare that it didn't. Only that there was something about it that Louis was holding back from talking about.
Just like many other things he held back on talking about (when he wasn't outright rewriting things to cope with them i.e., Claudia wanting to burn Lestat and Louis attacking her, in a manner similar to Lestat, to prevent her from trying to).
Anyway, if a viewer wants to forgive Lestat or not for what happened, that will be up to them. But that should not dictate whether the show should adapt the books in the vampire chronicles that are told from Lestat's POV or not. If some people don't want to watch those stories, fine, again, their choice. But those books shouldn't be tossed aside just because Louis isn't the main POV character anymore.
We already know there are no plans for Louis to disappear entirely from the story in the tv adaptation of those books (which is a plus given how little he's in some of them - looking at you, Memnoch.) And anyhow, Lestat is already a main character on the show. It's just his POV that we haven't gotten to hear/watch yet.
And do you want to know something? "Redemption" for Lestat doesn't mean he's going to stop being monstrous altogether or something. Hell, one of the lessons he learns after his adventure in the book Tale of the Body Thief is that not only is he a monster, he would have chosen it if given the choice. He enjoys being a vampire - being a monster.
He and Louis' relationship will be better, less toxic, over time, yes. Their time apart will help them both so that, when they finally do come back together, it'll be much healthier than it ever was before. That will be redeemed, as it were.
But if some non-book readers are under the impression that Lestat will become some moral figure wrt his redemption? Haha, no. That's not what that means.
So yeah, anyway. If some of those people stop watching after Season 2, fine. They can do what they feel is best for them. Don't worry about it. I'm not and don't.
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fromchaostocosmos · 6 months
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Attention Creatives
You need to stop with the stories, plot lines, background info, and such in your works that are things like:
The Holocaust and the Atlantic Slave Trade were not really about that it was really a cover for vampires to have a way to access to mass feeding farms found in example like The Strain and Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter
The Spanish Inquisition was really about vampires trying to find witches that could control them story line thanks to True Blood.
World War 2 was because of Greeks gods fighting with each via Percy Jackson.
There are shit-ton more examples of this kind of thing and it is disgusting.
The Holocaust and the Atlantic Slave Trade specifically in regards to United States part of it all and the horrific treatment of enslaved African peoples tend the most commonly used ones, I have found.
That said it does not mean other ethnic cleansing and genocides are not used as well as other major events and tragedies for very specific marginalized and/or minority groups.
These types of stories devalue our on going pain and trauma as well as degrade the memories of both the living and the dead who suffered through those horrors and the many who did not live to see it end.
Our trauma is not a sandbox that you get to play, our history is not something you to play pretend with.
All of us from the various communities that survived these atrocities, these crimes against humanity, these terrors we all each and every one us carry still the scars. Not just scars, but also still healing wounds.
We carry in us the stories of our people, the joys and the sorrows, the hopes and the fears, and we carry the dead so that they may live on in some small way.
You have no right to that, you have no right to pain, to our joy, and most importantly you have no right to recast the reason for it all.
I am so sick of it and it needs to stop.
And this is not even delving into deeper how deeply gross so many of the implications of these storylines are if you think about for just a little bit and the nasty stereotypes they help to reinforce.
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tododeku-or-bust · 1 year
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The fact that it's 2023 and we're still in the single digits for some minority groups when it comes to awards and representation and what not in TV/Movies is baffling to me. Like we're still saying "the first ____" in fucking twenty twenty three. Maybe we do just need a wave of "forced" diversity bc ain't no way the screen been around this long and we've spent the majority of it still looking at majority white people
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gritsandbrits · 2 years
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Sesame Street was literally made for black and nonwhite kids in mind how the FUCK do you ignore your own target audience?????
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wetwareproblem · 1 year
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Anyone else getting deeply suspicious of the spread of that movie trope where a white dude is cured and absolved of his racism by the relentlessly forgiving kindness of a non-white person or family?
Like. I just saw an ad for a Tom Hanks movie that straight-up sounds like "Manic Pixie Dream Girl for racism," and... I dunno. The whole thing just feels like an exercise in building reasons that racism is "not that bad" or "not his fault" and shift the responsibility for fixing it onto the victims.
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dragynkeep · 9 months
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White girl with piss-poor Chinese name formation and pronunciation, with a tan-skinned aussie dad with the same issues and a Celtic-named mother that's dripped with orientalism aside, how is Yang dripping with orientalism herself?
that's really just it is that yang suffers being the biproduct of raven's orientalism & absolutely no genuine thought being put into taiyang being asian himself beyond a name.
one thing i find somewhat annoying is that any merch for yang featuring an asian language is in japanese, not chinese. we don't even know the characters for her name so actually pinning down a concrete meaning is impossible, her name itself doesn't follow the naming conventions — it should be 2 - 1, not 1 -2 & chinese surnames are not hyphenated for this reason — & overall she just. has very little beyond this name to show that she is meant to be in any way chinese.
which is frustrating because all the orientalism regarding yang & other "asian" characters on the show will inevitably lead to some rwby ghoul unearthing monty's dead body as a defense to it: as if racism against one's own is not something that happens & that for a majority of this show now it has been written & produced by white creators.
i would love for yang to have more chinese influence to her design & character: i love when i see it in fanart! but as is, if you showed anyone this character without her name & asked them what race she was with her blonde hair, light eyes & deathly white skin tone — asian is not the one they're going to say.
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thenixkat · 1 year
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Also fuck Kubrick for killing off Dick Hallorann. Racist ass mfer. 
Dick fucking lived in the book, saved fuckers, and became Danny’s new father figure.
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