#problematic media

[happyflappysystem]

Honestly source shamers suck like bruh fictives can't choose their source. Hell I dunno about other systems but we literally have fictives from content we haven't even interacted with ffs. I love you fictives from problematic sources 🩷 your existence is not problematic just because your creator did some shitty stuff and just know you are more than that🩷🩷

#tw swearing #fictive #fictives #tw source shaming #plural #plurality #fictive positivity #problematic fictive #problematic media #endo safe #pro endo #plural positivity #positivity

[demonic-shadowlucifer]

this is gonna piss a lot of folks off, but you guys are going to have to accept that there is no such thing as "unproblematic" people or media. every TV show, every movie, every book, every music band, every athlete, hell every person in the world, is "problematic" or has done "problematic" things one way or another. If you stop supporting a TV show or a movie or toyline because the creators are "problematic", then you should probably stop supporting every single film, show, book, etc because guess what? the creators behind it have probably done problematic shit. and if we tried to get rid of every "problematic" creator, artist, etc out there, we'd have nobody left. No, I'm not saying you shouldn't boycott or protest such bad things. And I'm not saying you should draw or make content that's genuinely illegal (good lord please do not do that lmfao). Quite the opposite, really. I'm saying that no matter how "unproblematic" your favorite show or celebrity is, you still need to be critical when they *do* eventually mess up (Besides, there's a difference between financially supporting 'problematic' creators and well... just being a fan!).

#problematic athletes #problematic media #problematic #anti censorship #discourse #ish

[tea-withnofixinsplease]

I dunno, maybe Im just old school or what, but if I dislike something, especially if it involves media like movies, genres, or ships... I just don't look at it. Worst case scenario, I mute the hashtag or block fan accounts if it's unavoidable.

However for many people, not only do they dislike something, they actively seek out said media, post their dislike in the "we like this media" section, find specific fans of the media, go to their accounts, post anons about how they're insane/horrible people for liking said media, argue with people in comment sections about their dislike for said media, and hang out with other people who hate said media in Discords, actively planning hate bombing campaigns like a supervillain league?

Babe it is 70 degrees in November, y'all truly have.... This much smoke, for ppl liking fictional characters?????

"X is so problematic Wtf is wrong with you people"

Honey wtf is wrong with You???

1. The fandom exists for it, the hashtag is 600 posts deep, yall are not gettin rid of it,

2. The fanfics and blogs will still be there tomorrow,

3. You sending an anon calling the person a bad name is d e f i n i t e l y not gonna stop them from liking said thing,

You're basically.... yelling at a brick wall

So those hours could have been spent absorbing fiction that you like????? Stress free???? I don't-

You're a loser I think?? What else is there to describe this insane behavior-

#like the only reason I am making this post is because I am baffled by this behavior #there are so many parties goin on just...have a good time?? #I dont even know wat to tag this- #bkdk #dkbk #namor x shuri #shuri x namor #yandere #problematic #idk #problematic ships #problematic media #the arcana game #tag this whatever

[dramamines]

I think people should be allowed to consume controversial media without disdain if they can recognise what problems there are with the media/creator

#ballena rambles #media #controversial #helluva boss #hazbin hotel #south park #problematic #problematic media #like you guys dont stop reading classics cause the author was racist do you?? #ugh if i get backlash for this im gonna be so pissed

[spyanotherday]

people who say that we should not create or interact with problematic media lack basic understanding of how we as a society learn and analyze media. i dont mean that in a 'fiction doesnt affect reality' way, but in a 'fiction comes from reality, is shaped through us as a collective, and is a reflection of some of the deepest, truest parts of people'. if we ignore, if we condemn, if we ban media that has uncomfortable topics, we will never learn. we learn by looking at it and seeing why it is wrong. we hate by understanding it, not by just learning 'oh this thing is wrong so i have to hate it'. maybe for children who aren't ready to learn all of the deeper parts, or lack the comprehension skills to look at media critically. hate films made by bigots are awful, but banning them isn't going to fix the problem. if you don't want to watch them, you don't have to! but it's important for us to see why they were wrong. and see how that hatred spreads into our lives without us realizing it. same reason we study the holocaust (the nazis, btw, burned media that didn't agree with them. i'm not saying that people who say we should ban/hide information on topics that displease them are authoritarian right extremists but i am saying its a worrying connection). and commentaries that are about vile things happening by/to the protagonist (most of the time) are not encouraging the vile acts! if written well and written by the right people, commentaries are an insight to how these people actually think/feel, even if through prolonged allegories. we should not be crucifying some of the greatest social commentaries just because they're uncomfortable, because that is how we lose. if we do not understand, we cannot overcome! this is NOT me saying that people should just write about pedophilia, or incest, or anything of the sort just for fun. i do think that's gross at it's core, but that does not mean the writing/filming/ect is not important for us to look at as a society and go Hm. How Did This Happen?

#anyways. yeah thanks for reading this if you did its just a mindless rant #discourse #does this fit into pr0ship/ant1 discourse. because i really could give less of a shit about that #problematic #problematic media #fiction affects reality #fiction doesn't affect reality #nope.. neither.. but a secret third thing (fiction is a mirror of reality) #this is the kinda shit we learned in english ii and adults on the internet cant even comprehend it. jfc #book banning #media banning #idk what else to tag

[burnkastel]

I love you systems with problematic introjects I love you systems creating 'unpalatable' art I love you systems who feel ostracized from system spaces due to their introjects i love you systems with complex trauma that is understood through art

#∂ϱ ✦ meow [nonedit] #problematic fictive #problematic alter #problematic media #fictive #introject #this isnt to say blogs who dont do problematic sources are bad #personal bounaries are ok! #im not saying ANYONE is bad

[incarnate-nation]

Introduction.

The purpose of this blog is to introduce and spread our beliefs to tumblr users! We are here to educate as well as recruit new members.

All questions may be sent to our ask box or commented here. Reblogs are appreciated.

What is incarnate nation?

Incarnate nation is a neo-religion that was created to unite people who identify as a fictional character. While it is created for incarnates, anyone who identifies as/with a fictional character (ex: kins and fictives) are welcome to join our community.

We cater towards those who enjoy things that are deemed "problematic" by the majority, people who are morally dark, people who identify as/with villain characters and people who have a problematic origin/media/source.

What is an incarnate?

Incarnate means: embodied in flesh; given a bodily, especially a human, form.

Therefore incarnates are people who embody a fictional character(or characters) in human form. In other words, they are actually the real life version of one or more fictional characters.

This experience is simalar to and can be confused for as being a kin or irl but they are not the same.

More info on that can be found here.

The 7 Commandments.

One- Form your own opinions. Ignore the feelings of the majority and think for yourself.

Two- Catering to other people's emotions is worthless if doing so drains yours.

Three- Morality is decided by an individual, not by law or societal norms. Do not let others tell you what is an isn't acceptable. Don't let others decide the difference between good and evil for you.

Four- If someone mistreats you, you have the right to treat them however you see fit. Mercy is for those who fear action. Be your own karma.

Five- Respect those that respect you and no one else.

Six- Do whatever you need in order to get what you want. No matter how selfish that thing may be. People, things, resources, etc only exist to benefit you.

Seven- Earth is only a trial. What you do here doesn't matter. Your existence is temporary and so it the existence of those you help or hurt.

Discord server!

16+ | only open to incarnates, kins and systems.

https://discord.com/invite/zpMEY9HVC3

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#neoreligion #incarnate nation #did osdd #incarnates #osdd system #incarnate #fiction incarnate #fictionkin #fiction kin #plural system #otherkin #alterhuman #did system #kincord #kin community #problematic kin #problematic source #problematic media #discord community #discord server #dsmp kin #mcyt kin

[vivi-ships]

It is not that complicated.

#dead dove do not eat #dddne #problematic media #ao3 #archive of our own #problematic fiction

[elistodragonwings]

"Its OK for people to like problematic media because nothing can be perfect" and "large-scale popularity of problematic media can highlight social blind spots that should be addressed critically" are two things that can and should both exist.

The two examples that stand out to me are Harry Potter and Attack on Titan. Harry Potter means a lot to its fans, so it's understandable that many are disappointed by it now. It is also worth pointing out that many fans were not simply liking the media despite it being problematic, but were in fact oblivious to those aspects for a long time. Aspects like the portrayal of slavery, antisemitic stereotypes, and implied sexual violence as justice.

Attack on Titan may not hold the same personal meaning that Harry Potter does to it's fans, but it did grab attention with its unique action and drama. I think it's worth questioning why it's fascist values around how it portrays heroism and violence weren't more obvious to most from the very beginning, to say nothing of the antisemitism that eventually becomes a main plot point.

It's hard to know what to do with this awareness. As someone who found both HP and AoT offputting from the first time I encountered them, I understand how easy it is to get angry at everyone else for not noticing the terrible things they normalize. Especially everyone else who says they care about these same issues they apparently can't see.

We can't make people see content as problematic when they're not at a place where they can understand it. We can't, indeed, even shouldn't, try to ban or prohibit problematic media. Because what we can encourage is critical thinking and self-reflection. To use these things a place to explore our own subconscious biases and assumptions. Our own blind spots and lack of knowledge. I may have found AoT morally repulsive from the start, but I had to actually read most of the manga and read others' analyses of both the text and fascism in general to understand what I was actually reacting to. I had to accept friends' love of Harry Potter to recognize that being unaware of a problem is itself it's own category of bias and privilege.

We need these things to challenge us to do better. We can't learn and grow without having things that expose our weaknesses. And hopefully as we grow and progress, the popularity of truly egregious media will decrease. But should it ever go away from public view completely, how will we learn how to recognize it, to protect ourselves against propaganda?

And how do we deal with the rage at realizing we live in a society that broadly doesn't see what we know to be harmful?

#problematic media #media #fiction #social justice #critical thinking #propaganda #fascism #harry potter #attack on titan #analysis #bias #elisto

[redd956]

"I accept that there is problematic elements in a piece of media I like" and "This piece of media is very interesting and holds many amazing elements" are coexisting concepts

#media consumption #problematic media

[proudfreakmetarusonniku]

hate how problematic is used as a blanket term for everything that’s not perfectly up to date with modern social mores like it removes so much nuance because there’s degrees to everything that it erased.

like. i love rocky horror so fucking much but it has not aged the best in some aspects and i can totally understand why people might not like it because of that. but it was also a very deliberately queer movie made by queer people very obviously making fun of the way society saw queer people at the time (and still do now unfortunately) that had a message of acceptance that was utterly radical at the time, with gender nonconformity and open queer sexuality very explicit. the community around it was a safe haven for queer people at the time and it's influence on the queer scene is massive because it was a massively popular avenue for expression, and not only that but it was an open space for sexuality and expressiveness in general which was still awful even for cishet men and women in the seventies let’s be honest. it’s impact on media and on society has been, for the most part, very positive and well intentioned. I’m not saying it doesn’t have issues, and it doesn’t have negative impacts, but it’s been beloved so long because it was a well intentioned and incredibly progressive film for it’s time that still honestly hits home a lot in some ways even today.

and like, that’s obviously not the same thing as work that has had no positive impact on the world, works whos bigotry is virulent and poisonous, and works created by hatemongers spending active money on hurting people (yes, i know richard o brian has regressive views on trans people, but as far as i know money isn’t literally being donated to fund hate groups from that which is the issue with people like jk rowling.)! it’s absolutely not the same as works that, for instance, deliberately and unironically demonise the queer community. it’s honestly pretty problematic in itself to say a work by queer people very much making fun of their own oppression is the exact same as their oppressors making work about how they deserve to be oppressed. these are clearly very different! a film half a century old having views that were very progressive back then but just aren’t now is something that you should think critically about, but it’s an important part of history and it’s something that can absolutely be still worthwhile to many queer people because it was genuinely made with the intention of lifting up the community! stuff like troubled blood was made solely to oppress us, to keep us down and marginalised, and has no literary and positive impact. while, superficially, you could say these are problematic- and for the same reasons, even!- actually doing basic analysis makes it obvious that one is a result of changing social mores mixed with what was obvious fucking parody of how stupid the stereotype is, and one was written because jk rowling wants trans people dead and unironically thinks we're murderous loonies- the very thing rocky horror was making fun of.

idk man i just guess it fucking sucks to see a lack of critical thinking and i think it does a lot of harm. throwing out things that have genuinely really helped the queer community in the past entirely without critical thought is bad, and treating actual hate speech the same as stuff that’s aged poorly and has some outdated ideas only helps normalise calls for active oppression as merely a mistake, a bad idea, something that’s a problem on the same level as outdated but well meaning portrayals. i honestly think it’s playing into the hands of people who want us gone to do that, as they can paint hate speech as something the general public can tolerate, like they can media with outdated opinions and poor but genuine messaging. and these are just examples, this happens all the time. sometimes to shit that genuinely didn’t do anything wrong- I will never not be mad at the obviously homophobic and transphobic backlash against steven universe getting mimicked by people who are well meaning because it was wrapped up in the words of it being problematic. and that’s why critical thinking on this subject matter is important- else people will try and use it to manipulate you.

#i guess this is discourse? sorry #Disk horse #media criticism #problematic media #transphobia tw #Queerphobia tw #homophobia tw

[ashbelero]

“Why Don’t You Eat Me, My Dear Wolf?” - In Defense of Enjoying Problematic Manga

So, I’m an avid manga collector. I read everything from seinen to shoujo, “Cute girls doing cute things” and “Everyone dies a horrible death” manga, popular and underrated titles and things that are garbage but I love them anyway. I’m a frequent poster on the Manga Collectors subreddit, and I decided to show off the manga I had preordered like six months ago which arrived a month after their official release. When I took that picture, I’d only previously read one or two of these volumes.

Eventually someone will ask in the comments how I liked this volume or that volume, which brings me to this conversation… or it would, if the person hadn’t deleted their side.

The book they asked about was “Why Don’t You Eat Me, My Dear Wolf?”, a boys’ love title with a fantasy setting. This is the book in question. I’d only read one or two chapters when they asked me about it.

When I order manga, I’m typically using the Previews magazine (seen pictured in the corner in the first photo) to check which volumes would interest me. Many times, I’ll order some that I’m not 100% sure of because I get a good discount through my comic book seller and if I don’t like the book, I’ll resell it for cover price or lower. “My Dear Wolf” was one of those I wasn’t sure of. All it gave me was a brief description, the rating, and the cover picture. I’ll be honest, I love fairy tale manga and I’m a rabid monsterfucker. The art is stunning. But when I saw the back of the book, I actually began to worry.

The description was what I saw, but there wasn’t anything mentioning the character’s actual age, and the back illustration made me pause. That’s clearly a child. Not my thing.

However, this isn’t my first manga rodeo. I know from experience that regardless of whether it’s Japan or America, manga depicting overtly sexual scenes of children is NOT commercially published by major companies. Whether it’s Made In Abyss or Loveless, nothing is ever actually explicitly shown or implied to happen to characters at that age. The Previews magazine doesn’t even print ads for straight-up hentai manga in its main book (you have to order the Adult Previews or request it from your local comic shop). Knowing this, I decided to read it anyway.

And there are some questionable scenes. The character is seen nude from the back once or twice, in the context of a bath or something. There are implications of the onset of puberty and the awareness of sexuality when he’s probably twelve or thirteen. A dick is never seen regardless of the character. Nothing overt is shown or said. It’s still slightly uncomfortable for me personally, but it’s nothing offensive. Even if it were, I have the ability to close the book and pop it back on the manga sales subreddit with the others. Someone would buy it.

I gave that person my honest early impressions when they asked me how I liked it. Now that I’m done reading, I actually greatly enjoyed the story and the smut only happens when the character is an adult — still not totally happy with the grooming vibes but eh. And the author did seem to have tried to avert these implications with a “we age more slowly here in the forest so it’s actually been 100 years” line in the last chapter. Maybe a cheap cop out but it made sense for the story and enhanced the romance for me.

But otherwise, there’s not much that I could complain about with this story that couldn’t also be said about two of my other favorite series.

Aside from the more severe romantic undertone, the themes in “My Dear Wolf” are pretty much the same as “The Girl From The Other Side” and “The Ancient Magus’ Bride” together. Both have young protagonists - Shiva from TGFTOS is implied to be about six, and Chise from TAMB is fifteen at the start of the series, where she is explicitly stated to be betrothed to the titular love interest. The way that Uru behaves towards Taro in “My Dear Wolf” is no more explicit than either of these other series, save for the ending. Do I have problems with the story? I mean, yeah. But boiling it down to the core ideas means I would also have to condemn these other two series, which are considered masterpieces.

Even if the themes in “My Dear Wolf” are implied to be sexual, though… so what? Fiction is fiction. It’s a good story, and it’s staying on my bookshelf. My only real complaint is that it’s a single volume and there won’t be any more.

And I wanted to tell that person how much I liked it and how much I would recommend it to those who liked this sort of thing, until I saw that they had deleted their own comments, likely because they feared judgment.

So for that person, and many others, here’s my review. I liked it. And though I would preface it with some warnings for those who need it, it’s still something I wouldn’t mind taking off my shelf to show a friend.

#manga review #why don’t you eat me my dear wolf #boys love manga #BL manga #problematic media

[hesitationmarx]

when someone says __ fans or __ shippers or __ apologists DNI (in the context of media/fandom) do u mean don’t talk about that thing on ur posts or at u? or do u mean if i’m entertained by something u find problematic i literally shouldn’t interact? bc i’ll respect that too but i don’t love it as a trend

#uh #proship #anti anti #if that means what i think it does #problematic #problematic ships #problematic media #ngl yall r starting to frustrate me #ur dying on molehills out here #ur allowed to like something and hate its creator #ur allowed to portray FICTIONAL CHARACTERS doing fucked up shit #yes even whatever ur thinking #next yall gna hang me bc i think Lolita is a good book #im too old for this site ffs #sry if this hurt a feeling i dont want to hurt feelings #just drunk and annoyed and it is MY BLOG

[iamxuechengmei]

I don't care that Eddie died, I didn't care about him at all, why the stranger things fandom worships his sorry ass is beyond me. And why do so many people think he's autistic and trans. He's a shrimp and can't fit all those identities in such a tiny useless body. Fuck Eddie with a forklift for all I care

#eddie munson #stranger things #stranger things eddie #eddie stranger things #steve x eddie #steve harrington #billy hargrove #mike wheeler #darce montgomery #joe keery #joeseph quinn #nancy wheeler #autistic steve harrington #autistic eddie munson #autistic billy hargrove #autistic burnout #autistic masking #problematic media #cottagecore #jiang cheng

[callofdutylorist]

Call of Duty's Problems

It's important to know the problematic factors to media we consume, and then deciding for ourselves if it crosses the line. Just about everything we can consume in media is problematic in one way or another, nothing is perfect and it's gross and puritan to believe things should be.

But that doesn't change the fact that we still have to acknowledge those problems, and be critical thinkers about it.

I love Call of Duty, but I would be crazy not to admit that it has a dark side, even in recent games.

(I'm not debating the ethics of the FPS genre)

Propaganda

ID: photo of common USA military advertisement, called The Calling.

Being a Triple A video game from the United States of America, it isn't too shocking to admit that US Military propaganda has found it's way into the franchise. After all, Call of Duty depicts the United States' military, and they are very particular about how their image is perceived back home.

Like in many militaristic nations, living the United States lots of military propaganda is shoved down your throat.

Universities and high schools often have recruiters hanging about and running programs of their own. Young adults are tailored to get constant advertisements from military branches. The usual...

Media presenting the US military in bad light is often suppressed in the United States' own sneaky ways. This includes Call of Duty.

Repeatedly Call of Duty has been called out for participating in US propaganda, as well as often being used as a tool by the US military for conditioning teenagers. Some major cases of this include but are not limited to

Participating in a major decade long project of creating a gamer to soldier pipeline

Helping fund military advertisements

Depicting certain historical actions of the United States in skewed pro-US perspectives

Many of the older games including lots of anti-Russian, anti-Latin American/Hispanic, and anti-Asian plotlines. This has gotten better overtime, but it is not completely fixed.

Representing common US media stereotypes

Call of Duty is mostly very open about this, especially in recent years, as they have gotten in trouble for it before. However this isn't a problem sole to Call of Duty and can be seen in the majority of popular military based media in the United States, including shows, movies, podcasts, YouTube channels, and video games.

One game infamous for going against this, as well as going against the glorification of war in the media is Spec Ops: The Line if you're interested.

Harmful Historical Inaccuracies

Being simultaneously a historical fiction, sci-fi, and realism fiction it's expectant that Call of Duty would take advantage of history to tell a story. That's not the problem here.

The problem is when it's not there as part of the story, but instead a straight up historical inaccuracy that's supposed to be a fact. Call of Duty has done this multiple times.

Sometimes it's not only a historical inaccuracy but also a very harmful one, such as propagating skewed US history, lying about important fractions of history, or sweeping major events under the rug.

The most infamous and recent of this example is the highway of death presented in Modern Warfare II (2022).

The IRL Highway of Death is in the Middle Eastern country Kuwait, and was a site for major war crimes committed by the United States. The Highway of Death received its name during the Gulf War. The highway, outside of Kuwait City was viscously bombarded by artillery, ships, and especially air craft by the United States.

The US claimed there was a convoy there that they had the right to destroy, but their excessive force destroyed over 2000 vehicles with photos showing the vehicles to primarily be civilian ones. It was an intense massacre that doesn't even scratch the surface of other US crimes in that area.

How does Modern Warfare II portray it? Well it's a subtle singular line spoken by the characters, claiming that the Russians did the Highway of Death.

This is a major dodging of responsibility, and anti-russian/eastern propaganda. For obvious reasons it made many people (especially Slavic players) furious.

It isn't the first or only example of this in Call of Duty games, or FPS games in general, but it's a significant one.

This article from the Polygon does a very good job talking about the Highway of Death Controversy -> [x]

Activision-Blizzard

Oh Activision-Blizzard... What a mess!

If you're unaware, Activision-Blizzard is a large video game mega corporation in the United States. It has ownership of tons and tons of iconic video game series.

And it's had tons and tons and tons of controversies.

Even right now it's major controversy is Microsoft buying it, which would make it into a monopoly of video games as Microsoft owns many series, and electronics (including the xbox console)

In the recent years and past Activision-Blizzard has had many problems with its workplace, video game finance decisions, and more. This includes a lot of employee misconduct, including infamous cases of sexual harassment in the workplace.

(Jesse McCree -> Cole Cassidy)

It's also been caught with lower pay for female employees, gives incredibly difficult deadlines for video game devs to meet, and generally is known to treat its employees like shit.

Call of Duty itself has been guilty for a lot of this activision-blizzard behavior too.

The sole companies themselves have done tremendous work in increasing diversity, and workplace safety in both their casts, developers, and even inside the games themselves.

Call of Duty is currently praised for this as it has made great strides, however this doesn't cover up how terrible Activision-Blizzard is to people. In fact it should be a major worry as Microsoft and Activision-Blizzard can easily regress that progress in name of bigotry, capitalism, and the United States.

What does this mean for Cod fans?

Unfortunately, like most major video game corporations, we are enjoying at our own risks. This is not a "LeTS BoYCotT cOd!" or a call to abandon the franchise.

It's instead a call to bring awareness that this is nowhere near a perfect franchise, and a franchise with many significant problems and a long history.

I'm going to continue playing the game of course

And you can too, except with a little bit more knowledge

#call of duty #cod #activision #activision blizzard #microsoft #video games #video game #problematic media #monopolies

[demonic-shadowlucifer]

"Not financially supporting shitty creators also means not watching or engaging with their creations at all, even through pirating!" ...tell me you don't understand pirating without telling me you don't understand pirating.

#pirating #problematic media #like... dude #pirating means the creator DOESN'T get money from it #saw a post like this and it pissed me off #discourse #ish