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#pro self dx
clownrecess · 1 year
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(Tw for talk of r/fakedisordercringe, ableism, fake claiming, harassment, etc.)
I have had it with r/fakedisordercringe. This subreddit is filled with content that is both ableist and harmful to the neurodivergent community. The posts mock autistic people, systems, people with ADHD, etc. suggesting that people are faking or exaggerating their symptoms for attention. First of all, it's incredibly harmful to assume that someone is faking a disorder just because they don't fit into your narrow view of what that disorder looks like. Autism, for example, is a spectrum disorder, which means that there are a wide variety of ways that it can present itself. Just because someone doesn't exhibit all of the classic symptoms that you associate with autism doesn't mean that they're faking it. (Tell me you're an aspie supremacist without telling me you're an aspie supremacist /hj)
The reasoning that the users of this subreddit often use tend to fall under these categories:
"They don't experience *insert disability* the same way that I do, so they must be faking"
"They post too frequently about their disability, so they must be faking"
"They support self diagnosis, so they must be faking"
"They use xenogenders/neopronouns, so they must be faking"
etc.
Has it ever crossed your mind that maybe not everyone is the same? That not everybody's disability is the same? /nbh
The idea that someone can determine whether or not another person is truly autistic or has a mental disorder based on a few online interactions (or even just a post!) is absurd. Not every autistic person or people with other disorders fits the stereotype of what people expect, and it's not up to strangers on the internet to decide who is "legitimate" and who is not.
As an autistic person, I'm tired of constantly having to defend myself and my experiences. I'm tired of seeing people with disabilities being reduced to nothing more than punchlines for jokes.
A few days ago someone in a youtube comment section accused me of faking being autistic, by saying something along the lines of "Self diagnosed ahh". First off, not everybody can safely access diagnosis. You are so incredibly privileged if you think everyone can. Somebody being undiagnosed does NOT immediately mean they are faking. Second off, I am literally professionally diagnosed.
I am tired of r/fakedisordercringe and the hate, misinformation, and stigma it perpetuates.
Leave disabled people ALONE.
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chaos-in-one · 1 year
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Normalize being professionally diagnosed and supporting people who don't have a diagnosis actually
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shadowsbrainrot · 1 year
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i hate the anti self diagnosis crowd bc it’s so counterproductive and has so little nuance abt how disability intersects w ppl who are already marginalized outside of it. So many ppl either don’t have access to or are not taken seriously by doctors because of misogyny, systemic racism and poverty, sometimes there’s just nothing a person can do than wait indefinitely on a waitlist when their healthcare system isn’t stellar or they don’t have access to anything better. The one thing self dx does is give ppl a community where they can find self help and a sense of belonging w ppl who share their struggle and ik from experience my journey was a lot lonelier and scarier when i was too scared to interact w other neurodivergent ppl on the internet when i was afraid to speak about my chronic pain or my experience as the host of a system, when i was bottling all these things up. nobody can tell you your experience except for yourself and trying to police and undermine ppl who are only searching for answers or a sense of community and belonging is not only stupid but cruel.
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definitivess · 2 months
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there is no point to 'self diagnose' yourself with anything if you have no incentive to seek medical assistance or atleast do any other forms of self help and inner healing. at that point you're simply looking for a label to identify yourself with as if it's a personality trait, and not an actual disability. it's trashy at best, anti recovery at worst.
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thecatspasta · 1 month
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Ok but if you think about it anti self diagnosis stuff is so stupid sometimes
'Hey I have self dxed autism'
'You do not have autism bc a medical professional has not approved this and therefore you are not autistic'
Imagine if you applied that to smth like cancer and then that person later died of cancer. Hey if its not diagnosed then its not real and cant affect you so everyone who died of smth that they didnt get diagnosed obviously did not have that
You can see how thats stupid right?
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astrangerthatlovesyou · 11 months
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If you have AvPD, something you’re going to have to face is that, yes, plenty of people are going to dislike you. They’re going to hate you, they’re going to reject you. It’s a fact of life that everyone faces.
There isn’t a form you can beat yourself into that’s going to change that. You can’t bully yourself into being palatable to everyone, you won’t ever even be that palatable to most people, nothing is.
But you won’t get the connection you want if you reduce yourself to almost nothing. There has to be something real for people to connect to.
In the end, you have to be a version of yourself you’re comfortable with when nobody is looking. You are the only person you can’t avoid, make friends with yourself, I promise the rest will come if you let it.
You are important! You deserve to love yourself. You deserve to be yourself. You do NOT have to do anything before you’re allowed to show yourself compassion. As long as you’re not hurting anyone, you’re allowed to be you. You’re perfect.
I love you, exactly as you are, I’m excited to love the person you are when not hiding.
You’re doing great.
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19 years of my life
18 years since someone first noticed I was a bit different
8 years since I tried to tell my mom I felt different
7 years since my doctor told me it was probably nothing
6 years since I started guilting myself into thinking I was a liar
3 years since I started to accept that I wasn’t
2 months since I finally met a psychiatrist to test me
3 days since I was diagnosed with ADHD
1 day of finally starting to accepting myself
You know your mind and body better than anyone else. Lying is intentional. Please don’t give up on getting the care you deserve because you aren’t being heard. Someone is ready to listen to you.
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aspd-culture · 6 months
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Do ya accept self diagnosed people here?? /genq
Yep, assuming you have done your research or are in the process of researching. And I mean, I'm not gonna quiz you or anything. We assume everyone is here in good faith unless given serious reason to believe otherwise.
For those with access to professionals, they very often won't evaluate for ASPD, sometimes due to ignorance, but mostly to avoid forcing a stigmatized diagnosis onto someone.
For many, help around them is stigmatized, and many specialists are out of pocket only and expensive.
A lot of people just do not have the access to healthcare and/or professionals, or need to avoid diagnosis for their line of work.
And many people choose on their own to not pursue an official diagnosis for various reasons, any and all of which are valid.
Who am I to say you don't have ASPD? You know your experience better than anyone else could. If you've done your due diligence to learn the other half of the equation - the criteria, symptoms, development conditions, and differential - then as far as I'm concerned, there is absolutely no reason not to believe you.
And even if it were to turn out that someone who self diagnosed after all their research didn't have it (which honestly is pretty rare), that's okay too! You took the time to educate yourself on a very stigmatized disorder and that's never a bad thing.
As long as you aren't spreading misinformation, whether you are correct or not in your self-dx you are hurting no one.
I literally have no idea why people *wouldn't* support educated self-dx, and I'm genuinely sorry that that is something they have to check to ensure they're safe on pages that are supposed to help people.
Tldr, we absolutely accept researched self diagnosis here!
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Yep, assuming you have done your research or are in the process of researching. And I mean, I'm not gonna quiz you or anything. We assume everyone is here in good faith unless given serious reason to believe otherwise.
For those with access to professionals, they very often won't evaluate for ASPD, sometimes due to ignorance, but mostly to avoid forcing a stigmatized diagnosis onto someone.
For many, help around them is stigmatized, and many specialists are out of pocket only and expensive.
A lot of people just do not have the access to healthcare and/or professionals, or need to avoid diagnosis for their line of work.
And many people choose on their own to not pursue an official diagnosis for various reasons, any and all of which are valid.
Who am I to say you don't have ASPD? You know your experience better than anyone else could. If you've done your due diligence to learn the other half of the equation - the criteria, symptoms, development conditions, and differential - then as far as I'm concerned, there is absolutely no reason not to believe you.
And even if it were to turn out that someone who self diagnosed after all their research didn't have it (which honestly is pretty rare), that's okay too! You took the time to educate yourself on a very stigmatized disorder and that's never a bad thing.
As long as you aren't spreading misinformation, whether you are correct or not in your self-dx you are hurting no one.
I literally have no idea why people *wouldn't* support educated self-dx, and I'm genuinely sorry that that is something they have to check to ensure they're safe on pages that are supposed to help people.
Tldr, we absolutely accept researched self diagnosis here!
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redtail-lol · 8 months
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Idk how people will be anti self dx and then call sb a narcissist like so I can't diagnose myself based on my lived experiences and research because I don't have the qualifications to diagnose others but you who also doesn't have that qualification can diagnose people with a disorder you probably barely know about?
This post is not about being concerned and telling someone you know personally that they should look into something to see if that might be the case, that's a suggestion. This post is talking about people who are making videos on YouTubers who get exposed and calling them narcissists like... You don't even know them. Besides they usually won't even show signs of NPD, they'll just be manipulative and maybe have a pretty big ego and sense of self importance but none of the other signs, like an unstable sense of self, need to be praised, or a genuine lack of empathy* are present. And that's only to name a few symptoms, others also rarely appear when these YouTubers get called narcissists for being bad people. A narcissist is not the same as being a bad person, you can't call everyone you don't like a narcissist. Despite the people I'm specifically referring to, this post can also be about anyone calling somebody, even someone they know, a narcissist without having a single clue how the person thinks or what narcissism even is.
*A lack of empathy is not the same as not caring about others. Empathy is the ability to understand how others feel, and to feel with them. A lack of empathy is not a lack of compassion. It does not mean you don't care about others. It means you can't really understand how others feel. You can't read their feelings and you don't feel a certain way just because they feel a certain way. People who don't have empathy can still care about others and people who have empathy don't necessarily care about the feelings of other people. Being able to understand the feelings of others doesn't necessarily mean you give a shit about the way they feel, and you may even find delight in someone being upset if you wanted them to hurt.
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willows-woes · 2 months
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Rant incoming, I guess. This is from the perspective of a QUESTIONING system with UDD [Unspecified Dissociative Disorder], so unfortunately, I can't speak on behalf of people with DID. Pointless? Yes, this is a very niche discourse. I'm making this anyway.
About "DID/OSDD is just a trend, everyone claims they're a quote-unqoute system nowadays."
Okay. This.. this is like "everyone has autism nowadays."
The truth is no. Not everyone has autism. It's just that knowledge about what it is has become more mainstream, more available, so more and more people who thought they were just "weird" realise that they DO have autistic traits.
Same for CDDs [Complex Dissociative Disorders]. Information has become more available, so more people can now realise they might have a dissociative disorder.
"Basically anyone who has over 10 alters calls themselves "polyfragmanted" without knowing what that word means."
No. Just- no. I haven't seen a SINGLE person with under 100 [or in some cases 1,000] alters/fragments call themselves polyfragmented. That's bullshit, plain and simple.
And yes, I know DID/OSDD is more than just alters. There's amnesia in DID, depersonalisation and derealisation in both of them. There's periods of not knowing who you are-- it's a COMPLEX disorder, one that is very lacking in research. I don't consider myself a [potential] system just because I "have fictional characters in my head." Self-diagnosis is VERY often done with significant research beforehand, like weeks, months or even YEARS of research even. Very often, no-- if someone says they are a system, it's not because they have "characters in their head like OCs." It's because they dissociate so often, and so frequently that they feel like they aren't one person anymore. OSDD/DID comes with a shit ton of identity confusion and MULTIPLE identity crises of "who the fuck am I," and it can be a very painful disorder to deal with.
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if you are scared you’re faking it, then you probably aren’t faking it
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a-dotrivenitupontop · 10 months
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just saw someone argue self-diagnosing is bad because “the internalised opinions of the self are flawed at best” like OUTWARD PERCEPTIONS FROM OTHERS ARE ANY BETTER??
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avpdpossum · 2 years
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“your self-diagnosis will never be as good as a professional diagnosis” yeah, my self-dx isn’t “as good” as a pro-dx would be, it’s better!
most psychs have spent maybe a few days maximum learning about the absolute basics of my diagnoses, while i’ve spent years taking in every bit of information i can find, including lots of information from the same sources they’d be using and more — chances are i know more about my diagnoses than the average psych ever will
psychs who do have more knowledge got that knowledge from deeply stigmatizing sources, and most have never bothered to learn from the people who actually live the experiences they claim to be experts in (ex. “npd experts” who actually just specialize in “evil abuser disease” or people like martin kantor)
a psych will never be able to know what’s going on in my head the way i can because they can’t read my mind, so even if i was able to articulate my internal experiences really well (which i’m not — i’m a semiverbal avoidant with often disorganized thoughts/speech; explaining something like that is hard if not impossible for me), hearing it secondhand can’t compare to the 20 years i’ve spent living it
the vast majority of psychs operate based on sanism and profit motive — they’re more than willing to take obscene amounts of my money, only to deny me a diagnosis based on not meeting some shitty stereotypes or say there’s no point in giving me a diagnosis if i don’t want a cure or give me the diagnosis and then have me put in a psych ward because my diagnoses make me one of those ~scary mentally ill people~ that none of them want to deal with
a misdiagnosis from a psych could potentially lead to me being put through intensive therapies or put on medication for the wrong thing, which can have very bad results, and the label might stay on my medical record even after being proven wrong; if my personal assessment is wrong, nothing happens — no one gets hurt, i just go “oops, nevermind”, keep whatever useful things i learned from it in my “toolbox”, stop using the label itself, and move on with life
coming to my own understanding of how my brain works and using the labels that actually make sense to me means i actually get to have some autonomy for once — i get a community of people who understand my experiences and a better understanding of how to manage my symptoms and accommodate myself, without having to fear things like forced treatment or intensified discrimination
the idea that my neurotype makes me incapable of self-awareness and introspection is ridiculous — some people might feel that way about their own situations and need to rely on outside assessment as a result, but that experience is not universal
my understanding of my own mind is NOT second-rate compared to a psych’s, and i don’t need to put myself at risk just for a stranger to tell me what i already know
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purpurrock · 4 months
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"Diagnoses are a privilege. Hard to come by. Sometimes dangerous too."
Youre,,, you're almost there!!! You've almost got it!!! :(
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asdcats · 10 months
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We've been sorting through things from the attic since we're being evicted in about a month. And today we went through a box of my things. In there I found sone all school stuff, and my old Brownies troop box and bag along with all the work books we were given.
Honestly looking through some of it just made me feel sick. Like on a page of dreams we had two of my five dreams were that people would stop being mean to me and I'd make a friend (not more friends that I'd have one friend). That was a dream I put on the same level as being a freaking pop star (another dream I wrote).
Also my hand writting was god awful (i honestly can't tell if i wrote anything when i was five or ten), I thought my birthday was on the 81st on November when I was like eight or nine, I couldn't even spell words like memory when I was eleven (I spelt it memary). But I couldn't get diagnosed with anything (no matter how hard my mum tried) because "there wasn't enough proof" (my mum started collecting evidence when I was six) "they're not severe enough" (I'm 25 and still struggling) "they're borderline autistic" (even if that was a thing how does that stop me from having dyscalculia, or dyspraxia, or dysgraphia?)
I want to cry and scream and vomit. I want to grab the people who were meant to help me and ask them why didn't they? Why did they deny me the help I needed? What did they gain by watching me struggle from holding me back? What would they have lost by helping me? Even just giving me a reason as to why I was struggling?
I WAS A FUCKING KID! WHY WOULD NO ONE FUCKING HELP ME!?
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astrangerthatlovesyou · 11 months
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Having a PD and DID is wild because I’m just sitting here eating strawberries and then I remembered people think people like me are scary???? 
I’m scared of everyone and have a bunch of soft, traumatized gays in my head, and if people knew what caused that they’d think “criminal”?? 
I know that realistically, the fact that people with disorders usually caused by trauma are the most demonized is really disturbing and ableist, but it’s just absurd to me that people looked at my disorders and went “yup, terrifying. You see that bitch that cries when they have to talk to strangers? We should be afraid of them.”
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