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#pride discourse
fuckyeahasexual · 2 years
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jadwiga-abremovic · 6 months
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"WhY ShOuLd InTerseX PeOple Be In The Acronym"
Well, for one thing, "preventing lesbianism" is still a reason why doctors do clitorectomies on newborns.
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manyminded · 10 months
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unfriendly reminder that just like pronouns =/= gender, relationships =/= attraction. a gay man can date a lesbian. in fact, he will. and y’know what? that does not invalidate either of their sexualities in any way.
you do not have to be attracted to someone to have a relationship with them. sure, it helps, but like any emotion - that shit fades. it ebbst and flows. if you want a stable relationship you have to choose to stay together, choose to care for one another. you do it consciously. it’s not an emotion. it’s not an attraction. it’s an effort.
and you can’t be mad about it. this stuff will happen wether you like it or not. aros will date aces lesbians will date gays and it might not even be dating, either. it can be sexual or a qpp or platonic or LITERALLY ANYTHING. it doesn’t fucking matter. people don’t fit into neat little boxes. people will have relationships that don’t make sense with their labels, either to you or to anyone. And you have to not be a dick about that. Okay? Okay.
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cripple-punk-dad · 2 years
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Someone will say something reasonable like "TERFS shouldn't be welcome at pride celebrations because they commit hate crimes against trans people regularly"
And then terfs will say "Actually that's homophobic why are you saying lesbians shouldn't go to pride."
Like fuck that. Fuck that. Lesbian does not equal terf.
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thesevenumbrellas · 2 years
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Idk how to break it to y’all but straight people go to pride all the fucking time
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prince-of-liafail · 4 months
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also people should stop expecting irl spaces to be as curatable as your online spaces. it isnt fucking healthy or the slightest bit realistic.
you can decide you're not interested in ever going to a kink meeting. that is perfectly fine. no one can or should force you. you can, however, also deal with seeing a handful of pups out and about for one (1) weekend a year. you will live i promise.
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i-eat-nail-polish · 1 year
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As we are getting closer to pride month, drop for your favorite stupid pride discourse topics that you’re tired of hearing for the 19th pride month in a row
Mine is Kink at pride discourse
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a-polite-melody · 2 years
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Uhm, I better not catch anyone at pride wearing a wedding ring or being pregnant. You’re forcing other people to be part of your scene and your sex lives you gross freaks!
This is how you fuckers sound when you talk about the mere existence and/or presence of a leather harness, or flogger, or other form of kink gear being inappropriate by nature. In its very existence. A wedding ring (consummation laws) and a pregnancy are much more symbols of fucking or having fucked than kink gear — goth, punk, and alternative culture often accessorize with kink gear that they may not ever use in the bedroom, for example. If someone simply wearing something or appearing in a way that makes you think that they’re sexual beings should exclude you from pride, let’s apply it evenly, hm?
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catgirlcommunism · 2 years
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Op blocked me so i cant rb the original post again, but its important and needs to be said again.
Yes, queer has been used as a slur against people, but treating it solely as a slur is TERF rhetoric. Queer is powerful in its vagueness. Sure i could call myself a sapphic polyamorous polysexual demigirl(?) If i really wanted to, to microlabel myself into oblivion, but if a stranger asks i can just say im queer and leave it at that.
Refusing an umbrella allows bigots to try to drive wedges between different types of queer people, and using queer prevents that. A united front for queer liberation terrifies bigots, and thats a good thing!
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snappysprinkledog · 2 years
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Just a memo: sex repulsed aces who don't just not want sex but also don't want to hear about it or interact with it aren't your enemy and aren't equivalent to the quasi-puritanical people calling queer people 'freaks' over their sex lives if they're not necessarily comfortable hearing chat about things that relate to sex or have implications of sex like kink, they're people who have boundaries with their sexuality and that isn't an infringement on you and they're not the ones trying to attack who's 'allowed' at pride they're just existing in a way they're comfortable like everyone else
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jewishdragon · 2 years
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While the discourse/hot takes about “no kink at pride” are flaring up again and that’s bad but my brain was relieved, and thought “at least I personally haven’t seen people blaming asexuals for being the main proponents of it this time!”
Now of course I’m furious that people think that kink doesn’t belong at pride. Or are actively trying to ban it. Kink is a big part of pride and always has been as far as I’ve experienced it and learned of pride’s history!
But my point is, the fact that I felt any relief goes to show how insidious and widespread the finger pointing at ace people for this was.
I’m not tagging this with anything other than what I think is needed for people who blacklist tags and don’t want any mention of discourse on their blogs (which is totally valid. Curate your space).
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bottomoftheriverbed · 2 years
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Just to say I feel infinitely safer around kinky queers than I do around Respectable Gays™
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twlvie · 2 years
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not even going to be nice about it anymore if you're participating in shitty intercommunity discourse right now you're actively harming the fight for our rights and i'm putting this in the tags because i'm fucking right. stop believing that other queer people are the enemy and focus on what really matters right now. i and many others in the US are on the verge of losing our transition rights and it's the same in the UK, but you morons are arguing about fucking stripes on a pride flag or some inane shit. get real problems or grow up
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bucksboobs · 2 years
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Hey so like reframing the HIV/AIDS epidemic into the "worthy" and "unworthy" victims is literally as old as the AIDS epidemic and you can't talk about stigma surrounding HIV/AIDS without speaking on WHY it was so heavily stigmatized so saying that gay people are "centering themselves" to the detriment of The Real Victims is like... Reaganite level homophobia.
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transmascrage · 2 years
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My hot take about Pride discourse is that, if this debate got out to the general cishet public, corporations and cishets would definitely support the 'no kink at pride' position.
They did that with the Internet porn ban as well, promoting laws that lump porn and queer people (talking about sex ed and our experiences) together to "protect the children".
Obviously, the real reason is that they think queer people are degenerates.
Corporations who partake in rainbow capitalism would definitely go "Well, WE want to protect children! Go on, bring your child to Pride so you can buy more stuff, we'll keep the evil kinksters out!"
Maybe cishets would start taking their kids to Pride like we're zoo animals, they already to that with gay bars.
Or maybe they'd even make their own Pride, where they only sell sanitized LGBT products and Pride flags with Disney logos on them.
And since other companies and cishet people would definitely prefer corporate Pride to actual Pride, they might push for the former to be the ONLY Pride.
And then we'd be forever stuck with rainbow flags with company logos on them, held up by white cishet models with a perfect body (just to fuel the already rampant EDs in our community a little more).
How LGBTQ Pride Month became a branded holiday
Cishets treating Pride like a zoo exhibit
Cishets in gay bars
Queer people skipping Pride because it had become "too corporate" (This article is from 2016, meaning queer people felt it was so bad, that it was enough to skip Pride even after the Pulse shooting.)
My point? I want Pride to FREAK cishets out, so they don't even think to set a foot in it unless they're already allies, so they don't think to march in the parade to advertise their company, so they don't even cross our line of sight unless they're allies.
Pride is not the space where anti-queer people are going to be educated and become allies, and it's not meant to be one!
Anti-queer people hate Pride because it's possibly the only event when we don't have to pander and cater to the cishets "who just don't get us, no matter how hard they try."
There are so many other occasions where anti-queer people can become allies, like going to the local queer support group.
Pride is OUR celebration and OUR demand for rights. Imagine if you spent your time catering to your friend's wishes and on your birthday, they asked you to change the theme because they don't like it.
Final thoughts:
Pride should have a child-safe area, not a kink-safe area, because Pride shouldn't cater primarily to kids but I understand that kids and adults might not want to see kink.
Also, can we stop pretending teenagers don't feel horny? Not saying they're gonna fuck at Pride, what I'm saying is that they probably come from puritan families who tell them jerking off is a sin, and they probably need to be told feeling sexual attraction and being a "sexual freak" is okay. I know that, because I used to be one.
People aren't fucking in the streets (that's already illegal, guys) so stop using that as an argument.
Cops don't belong at Pride, not even gay cops.
Corporations don't belong at Pride. They can seek their shitty rainbow stuff in their stores, but they can't be at Pride.
And lastly, kink belongs at Pride.
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evelynstarshine · 2 years
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were making queer and LGBT about identity, not shared experience and its creating weird discourses. A bigot who beats someone up because their queer isn’t going to care about how they identity, so I’m not going to care about how they identity and what terms they understand before I defend them or love them ok? Queerness is about standing up for each other, not just those of who got their information and terms from the ‘right’ dictionary.
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