#ppl who say the rainbow flag is just for the lgbt community.....

[leolaroot]

i think one of my main issues w that flag too is that they just inverted the colors of the lesbian flag. like use it if u want ig but i agree w you, i’m a bit wary when people use it

yuuuuup and personally i find that telling too. the rainbow flag served as both a community flag for all lgbt ppl to rally under AND a long storied representation for gay men. ive heard the toothpaste flag justified by people who say "we want our own flag tht int for everyone" which i find disrespectful tbh to the legacy of harvey milk. but then for that "own flag" to just be a direct copy of emily gwens flag? 😐 and not just that but they went Okay well the Girl One has pink so the Boy One will be blue. idkkkkk its icky to me.

[nightswithkookmin]

Can we talk about JK selfie that he posted recently. It reminded of the similar selfies he use to post and somehow i felt the same emotion. Was it for JM? Is JM going to Qatar to support his baby? I dont want to be too hopefull but i also want to be. What do u think is he going ?

I hope he doesn't, Qatar is a homophobic country

I'm very uncomfortable with the idea of Jungkook being there let alone Jikook going there. Let's start there. Do you know the Qatar government is setting up spies to arrest anyone suspected of being gay at the games? No rainbow flags are allowed, no gay ppl are allowed there.

In fact, I've been biting my nails- will continue to bite them till he leaves that hellscape safely and unscathed and you want me to support Jimin going there too? Bruh💀

I like to worry about one gay bangtan at a time. Thank you very much. If I had to worry about all of them at once my receding hairline will disappear entirely

Can't rally up rainbow🌈 support for him when he keeps openly endorsing anti gay regimes the mass of us are trying to boycott.

Somewhere last year in India, Pakistan, there were leaders who rallied up on streets to take down his posters and Billboard because they believed celebrating him amounted to promoting LGBTQ in their country.

In certain circles there are tons and tons of hostility towards him, him in particular, rooted in homophobia. I don't know if he is aware of this or just plain don't care. The absolute privilege of it all.

I really hope his security detail is tight out there and he leaves there as soon as he is done.

At some point bts would have to take a stand to openly support the LGBT community by declining offers and projects coming from openly homophobic companies. They ought to make their politics known and they ought to stand by their values and what they believe in.

You can't say you are against racism and then turn around and support an artist that is blatantly racist. You can't say love is love, same love and waltz full chestedly into Qatar. Don't care how much they paying you.

I'm here for him. But I'm out the minute his part is over. Fuck Qatar.

Jimin can support him from his living room like we are all doing. Get the largest TV screen possible, some super duper fast internet, beer and cheer 😊

These little updates ain't meant for us but let's go off

This is what I call a thirst trap please😭😭😭😌

I don't trust any closeup shot of his face especially if there's a bed or pillow in the frame for obvious reasons 😴

It's how Tae will be taking low angle photos as if he wants us on our knees infront of him- I can't

FREE ME BANGTAN SONYEONASTY MINDS😭😭😭

Yall nasty

[clevercorvidae]

that last ask isn’t even meant as critique of the unlabeled flag (bc while I disagree w it, I also understand wanting to feel a sense of community and iconography with other lgbt and unlabeled people that flags give) I just genuinely Don’t understand ppl who don’t realize the rainbow flag is a general lgbtq+ flag at this point like. It’s for EVERYONE. Anyone can use the rainbow flag if they’re lgbt yknow?

man its weird to say you disagree with the flag idk. like you dont get to just disagree with a community of people wanting to have a flag for themselves y'know

#asks #discourse

[stormblessed95]

And add the fact that she has many as young as 10 years old followers, which some of them could be queer and learn what they should do from her, would normalize so many problematic traits, ,jealousy possesiveness cheating on your s/o (for $$$ or for just because) etc. , and this is what they will think of "queer relationship" bc they're in a homophobic environment. An applaud for the crowd pls.

I'm going to add all my TKlies anons and the asks I've already posted here into this one thread. Just so everyone can be well aware as to WHY she is toxic along with some of the toxic narratives tkkrs push. Then I'm closing this topic and won't be posting anymore asks about it. Rainbow text lady gives me such a headache. I tend to avoid the hell out of anything she does or posts. I'll also split up anons with cute jikook pics because we deserve some happiness in this post too

Anon 2: Every time i see "tkr" and "queer" used in the same sentence, i always think of this girl on twt who exposed herself accidentally. She posted a ss of a chat with her friend with the caption "i love this girl so much" but in the chat the account owner wrote "i wish i was gay, that sounds so fun, and you bitch would be the first girl i'd hit up" ??? But if you look at her bio, there was a pride flag. The audacity maam. Homophobia is so fun, yeah. And we believe you, you're a really queer indeed.

Anon 3: imagine your boyfriend making romantic videos for other person and uploading in public platform just to make you jealous. Boy I would break up immediately

Anon 4: Oh you didn't know? She invented some of coming out stages herself. She decides "TK's current stage" acc to how they behave lately. SI=Stay in, CIO=Coming into open, CO=Coming out. Do the editors of run!bts cutting TK content? TK is in SI stage. Are TK being loud? They're in CIO stage bc they dropping "hints". Did dispatch or any outlet shared a TK related thing? OMG THEY'VE CAME OUT ALREADY!!! THE WHOLE KOREAN INDUSTRY KNOWS ABT THEM!!! Her followers always ask her abt when will TK come out...

Anon 5, relating to tkkrs not tklies: I literally cannot believe i'm typing this right now. Have you seen the drama revolving around 🐰🦁? A specific fanartist better not be named literally drew 🐥getting beated up by🐰bc he was jealous how close 🐥 was to🦁?? And those dumbasses cannot understand that jikookers attacking them bc out of all the imaginary ppl they could've drawn,they chose this path to go? Just bcs it's hard for most tkrs to differentiate b/w fantasy and reality, 🐥 had to be dragged to hell and back everyday. ISTG.

The ask that started this conversation... opinion from an anon about how she doesn't believe their are truly queer TK supporters, only fantasy shippers...

Ask posted about tklies on Twitter about telling young army to come out:

Possible false claims of being LGBTQ ask posted:

I don't have much to add expect this all is all just very very sad. These are REAL people. Not fictional characters to create whatever kind of narrative you want about who they are. I'll just reiterate to stay away from TaeKook_Lives on literally every SM platform, block and report. And make sure you are watching original content when you form your opinions over the guys and to always always be respectful. TKlies topic closed to asks for now. Thank you 💜

#jikook #kookmin #tklies #tklies is the worst #anon #asks

[cowboyjen68]

I really appreciate that you have this blog and take the time to answer all sorts of questions from young lesbians like me. I’m from a very catholic homeschooled community so, needless to say, older lgbt folk are hard to come by. I’m older now and luckily mentally out of catholicism but the community is still all around me. I’ve been able to get into contact with the other lgbt ppl from our small community. It’s funny how parents would talk badly about these kids but all it did was teach me who I was safe to talk to! The first lesbian I knew was in the group. She’s only 26 (I’m 21) but I still call her my lesbian grandma lol. I haven’t meet or rlly talked to any lesbian older than her.

I’m newer to your blog but I wonder did you grow up Christian? If the answer is yes, do you have advice on how to stay confident and sane as a lesbian while surrounded by homophobia within your family and community?

I am glad you were able to break out of some of the down right toxic teachings of Catholicism (and many religions in general). I was raised Christian by default. My parents were mostly secular. Dad never said it but he was an atheist with no time for church or ritual. He would talk about "going to heaven" and "god" but mostly because he was always taught that is how to comfort. Mom went to church many 20 times my entire childhood and mostly just because it was "craft bizarre" day or some other event.

I went to Lutheran Church camp with my best friend. My parents sent me to summer bible camp (likely to get me OUT of a few summer days. The summer camps I went to were all generically Christian. I spent from zero to 9 with our Catholic neighbors a lot because my parents worked full time and Jackie was home. They took me to church and church functions. My brother and his wife became born again when I was in my teens and I went to their (crazy) church and heard their religious opinions A LOT. I have a minor in religion because I was fascinated but the age of 18 how people could buy such utter bullshit (in my mind at 18) and never question the cognitive dissonance between belief and reality.

I was raised in a small town and it was very Catholic and Christian so even with my ability to see the flaws (since I had no real attachment) and went through a period where I was like "Yeah.. Jesus is my friend...he is like this cool hippy guy who will get me to heaven". I saw my Aunt Harriet being cared for in her older age by her church and the community it provided and saw the good side of religions.

My brother in law is a minister of Missouri Synod Lutherans. They do NOT like the gays. My brother is a "love the sinner hate the sin" kind of dude. My other brother was a pot smoking hippy with several college degrees (24 years older than me) and he was like.. "in humans homosexuality is unnatural. It makes no sense because we have sex to procreate" So yeah, I heard the crap from outside and from my own world and from those older siblings who were supposed to be my role models. Eventually I figured out, older does not mean wiser or more sympathetic. MY sister is my biggest cheerleader and I never give her enough credit for her willingness to go head to head with other siblings (she is 20 years older) and for always knowing I was a lesbian.. before I did.

In college I surrounded myself with mostly bi women and gay men. I was a bit afraid of lesbians (didn't want to be guilty by association) Many of them came from much more adverse conditions than I did and here they were (especially the gay men) living life out in the world (not that they did not have fear and even self hate and destructive behaviors--they did--but they were doing their best). 

My friends knew I was a lesbian even if I didn’t admit it until after college. But it was that “found family” that allowed me to at least go begin to meet other lesbians and soon that connection to older lesbians let me start  saying the word “lesbian” and go from there. They showed me the many ways we exist and how celebrating being a lesbian was not always waving the rainbow flag at gay pride. Sometimes it was gathering with other lesbians in a back yard or at a restaurant and enjoying the friendship of those who understand.

Basically i learned that I am a lesbian whether the world likes it or not. If I am alone in the woods forever... still a lesbian. I don’t need the opinions of others to know exactly who I am, who I want to be, so I found people who did like who I was. I still love my brother but I don’t need to spend time and energy on him. When I can hang out with a bunch of lesbians and roast marshmallows. 

#religion #family #lesbian #homophobia

[mocweepe]

making my own post bc i h8 talking 2 strangers n dis izn a discussion i want 2 have w/o total control over it in case some1 crosses a line but neway

firstly, were not talking abt an mlm flag here. da toothpaste flag iz a gaylm, n by calling it an mlm flag ur erasing mspec mlm. so neway

no1 iz

saying gaylm Shouldn have deir own flag.

stopping non gaylm from using ne variation of da rainbow flag.

gaylm have jus been using da rainbow flag 2 ID demself as gaylm bc deres history attatched, n dis whole obession w every ID having flags iz starting 2 become very... "put every1 into neat boxes" and choosing a flag dat represents da queer and lgbt+ community as a whole breaks free from dohs boxes

dere r other reasons 4 wanting a separate flag 4 gaylm, obviously, but da idea dat jus bc gaylm r using da rainbow flag 2 ID demselves, it means deyre making it "Just da gaylm flag" or pushing other queer and lgbt+ ppl away from it iz. exactky wtf im talking abt w dese boxes

if ur a gaylm who still likes da idea of having our own flag, das fine. idc. da push away from da toothpaste 1 iz bc iz fucking ugly doh LOL, as well as lazy in iz coloring (all blue 4 ppl who like boys wow so original /s) and copying of da lesbian flag (im not arguing abt dat 😐)

dere r a few others dat still jus kind of. follow da same format as da lesbian flag (2 and 3 gradient stripes on either side of a white stripe) which still feels. lazy and uncreative 2 me personally. if u want an exclusive flag das original and not ugly as shit, id recommend checking out da cinthean flag

hope i explained tings well; ill be sitting over here w dis rainbow flag bc im sexy and i like it best

[ID: the 9 striped rainbow flag, which from top to bottom are: lavender, pink, red, orange, yellow, green, blue, indigo, and purple. end ID]

goodfaith responses only; mutuals only reblog. the first sign of discourse and you will be blocked.

[sweetescapeartist]

MY VIEWS OF BLACK & LGBTQ STUFF

If you don't care about this stuff, skip over it. I don't like talking about this often but at times I speak about it. I'd rather talk about anime & DBZ, but this is one of those times I don't.

I at times speak on stuff that ppl may consider political. I see it as logical or historical. First is...

LGBTQ

I honestly think its too confusing and I don't have time to try to keep up with all the terms and definitions because I don't care that much. It was supposed to be about unity but all it has done is caused more division because there are too many labels. How many sexual preferences and identities are there? Idk but there's more than the amount of fingers I have.

I don't hate ppl who are part of it because only an idiot hates ppl. Besides, I have relatives that are gay or lesbian. I simply disagree with the act for my own personal reasons. Some of it has to do with being a black man. That leads into racial relationships.

BLACK (& other "races")

Most ppl say racist things out of ignorance or because they like to purposefully be ignorant. I'm multi-racial, so I respect all "races" especially since race is truly just a construct that doesn't actually exist because we are of the human race/species. Do animals divide by race or is it only ppl who do that to take advantage of another person?

And I may be "multi-racial" but I have the appearance of a black man, thus I am black to society. Despite that I have European and Native American ancestry. Think about Latinos. Aren't they just ppl with South American Indian ancestry? The Americas were the land of the natives, so all of the descendants currently are of Native American ancestry. Why is race there to divide?

I choose to learn and not be ignorant and let society tell me what to think about race or sexuality. Their standards change all the time and society will give ppl the illusion of change to shut them up.

Now my thoughts about LGBT in the black community... I don't like the action because I'm straight, BUT I ain't gonna treat others with hate. Naturally, humans have a need to reproduce. There's nothing wrong with being straight because if straight ppl did not exist, there would be no lesbian or gay ppl. We would all die out. Now back to the black community...

Do your reseach of the effect homosexuality has had on black ppl throughout history. Slaves in the Americas specifically (& other places too) were "buckbroken." Don't know what that is?

BUCKBREAKING

Imagine your child is being beaten up by adults or being sold off and you are restrained and forced to watch. Imagine your wife or mother or sister or daughter or son or brother or father or even you yourself are raped in front of everyone by a man or group of men & they humiliate you (or your loved ones) over and over.

Buck - blacks weren't viewed as human & dehumanized.

Breaking - break the will & spirit of the strong with inhumane tactics.

All of this is to break your will power so you don't fight back for your freedom. If you fight back, you will be publicly raped, beaten, sold away from your family, limbs amputated, murdered, eaten by slave owners, and other kinds of torture.

There were many gays involved in slavery & even a trans-woman slave owner increased slavery in the U.S. All of this plus more is ignored. Why don't the LGBTQ community address and try to solve these traumatic issues that still affect the black community today? Because they don't care to fix it OR they are not told about it. (Not every individuals, but the group as a whole. I ain't a fan of groups.)

Even the rainbow flag was used by black ppl first. The Rainbow Coalition. Uniting ppl of all colors to stop oppression. Then the leaders were assassinated by the government, the Rainbow Coalition was sued, then the rainbow flag was adopted as the gay pride flag (a.k.a. the LGBTQ pride flag in current day).

CONCLUSION

I can't side with any group of ppl that disrespects the group I am a part of. I respect individuals who show they are deserving of respect & I don't promote hate. Why treat ppl the same or worse than I & my people have been treated? That's stupid to do so & shows that a person has fears of the other person being better than them, so they attack them. I fear no man. Each individual is better than each other in some sort of way. That's what makes ppl unique. Fearing & hating a group of ppl is just silly to me. Ppl change so I won't hate a person.

I like to know things so history doesn't repeat itself with me. Being informed is very important. Otherwise, you're following someone blindly & you don't even know who you're following. THAT sounds foolish to me.

#just me explaining my thoughts and views #y'all can ignore this if you wanna

[trickstarbrave]

i hate how i am basically as bitter and bitchy as i have ever been but when i was bi ppl tended to lay off the talking over me part more often on bi issues (not always, but more often than not) when i mentioned i was bi.

now that i ID as a lesbian, everyone thinks its okay to talk over me and lecture me on lesbian issues fully admitting they dont understand things or barely, if at all, researched it, but if i am annoyed someone has decided to educate a whole ass lesbian who has to deal with this kind of stuff every day, my anger is immediately turned against me. i am hostile, i am antagonistic, i am unjustifiably rude when ppl are just trying to have a conversation, i should be more open to ppl telling me they personally dont find something lesbophobic as though they are any authority on lesbophobia. 

lesbians are automatically seen as more mean, rude, hostile, and bitter. unjustifiably so. we’re supposed to take being excluded, brushed over, ignored, talked over, and demonized very quietly and politely. when i talked abt wlw and bi issues it was understandable, i was angry bc i am bi and i have a right to be angry. the narrative was bi ppl are under-represented, the underdogs (and this is true in many instances, they face more violence and its important for ppl to still talk abt bi issues). lesbians on the other hand are seen as having more power, big mean bullies who just say things for the sake of making other ppls lives hell. everyone wants a slice of our culture and history but while still twisting as backwater, narrow-minded, and regressive. i face a lot more kickback from ppl for IDing as a lesbian than i did when i was IDing as bi. 

my pain and anger is up for debate. my right to a pride flag is up for debate. everything from my pronouns to my presentation to my lesbian labels are a debate debate debate. even the fucking word ‘lesbian’ is now up for debate of whether or not i deserve to have it describe my experiences. before i had no problem finding bi pride merch, feeling represented. now i see half the things just conveniently leave out lesbian pride merch, and if i speak out on its right to be there i am loud, annoying, obnoxious, and controversial. dont i know no one wants to research what the “right” lesbian pride flag is? dont i know that ALL lesbian flags are controversial for any reason anyone feels like making up? why am i unhappy other sexualities and gender identities get a flag? the rainbow flag is right there, use that. 

biphobia was a huge issue, but i had an easier time finding ppl willing to speak out against it. outside of fellow lesbians there are very few who want to comfort me or speak out against lesbophobia. outside of wlw, the numbers of people who want to speak out against it are nearly non-existent. no one wants to. lesbians are mean, theyre angry, theyre scary, theyre rude, theyre antagonistic, theyre the bullies of the lgbt community. as a bi girl there were always so many there to offer advice and be kind. now that i am a lesbian all i see is this shit.

i am tired of it. it is genuinely exhausting. even my anger is controversial and mean. yeah im being bitchy bc ur talking over me, but suddenly thats okay. im telling you this information is wrong, but yknow i should be NICER abt the fact youre spreading lies abt my community bc u didnt know better and maybe if i wasnt a bitch ppl wouldnt believe them. i am expected to be polite, calm, impartial, bipartisan. im supposed to consider why ppl might want to be lesbophobic and be nice abt it. even in lgbt spaces. especially in lgbt spaces. and if i fail to be as quite and calm and never angry while being actively talked over, lectured on my own history and issues, i have no right to speak at all. this is why no one likes lesbians, this is why no one takes your issues seriously, all lesbians do is attack ppl and are giant hypocrites asking ppl to listen to them abt their issues without coddling me when i want to politely disagree. 

im fucking tired of it. 

[positivityforlesbians]

Honestly I'm tired of flag discourse, we lesbians could just use the rainbow flag, but sometimes our flags are useful, wearing something with the colors of the pink/pink-orange lesbian flag is pretty subtle (the rainbow sadly is not) and other girls may be able to notice them, it kinda feels like a lesbian secret code 🤣 I just wish they could be more known, both flags are so pretty, when I'm out I'll hang both the pink and pink-orange flags as well as the rainbow one in my room (triple the gay)

Yes ! What especially annoys me is when an org/event/place displays plenty of flags (so let’s say the bi flag, pan one, ace even, aro or demisexual etc) but do not display the lesbian one, we’re the first letter in the LGBT acronym but often we are ignored. Bi people I believe are included in the rainbow one, as well as ppl who call themselves “pan”, so if their flag is shown (and those who are straight with whatever other nuanced label they call themselves) then the lesbian and gay one should be, because we actually are legitimately part of this community and part of the beautiful rainbow flag. I love all lesbian flags too, we actually have three in addition to the rainbow flag as we have the labrys one. So yes, let’s be proud of our flags and our wonderful culture ! 💕

#anonymous #my answers #lesbian safe #lesbian culture #lesbian positivity

[pbscore]

(1)Hey I was wondering if I can talk about that lgbt+ Budweiser post? I don't know I feel like I'm in the minority of aces that are really not liking it at all, mostly as a religious asexual bc corporations have a history of abusing and taking advantage of lgbtq+ ppl esp with alcohol which ruins our safe spaces technically.

(2) But as a muslim queer person, when people hear i’m muslim they ignore and try getting me to drink even though i’m underage. It goes back to people ignoring wanting to take advantage of especially lgbtq+ youth .we should be focusing and protecting the community for the better. At the end of the day they’re an corporation that wants to take advantage of lgbt+ people, bc they just want money and most likely dont give a fuck about us!

First and foremost, I would like to say thank you for sharing your perspective because I think that this is a really important point of view to consider when we talk about big corporations using our community to make profits. I think that you sharing your own unique perspective on this issue is not only very brave but also very important to understanding the intersections of identity that we have in the LGBTQ+ community. 

I agree with you 100% on everything you said and I also believe that at the end of the day, a big corporation is a big corporation trying to make profit at every turn so it’s best to “appreciate” their stance but not engage with them further than that. 

The reason I reblogged that version of the post specifically was because I felt that a lot of people who feel similar to how you and I feel, should also consider the very slim amounts of nuance when it comes to situations like this; a big company showing ‘support’ for our community that may not be very genuine but it still spreads awareness and acceptance in a way that a lot of underground LGBTQ+ run companies can’t. 

Basically, big corporations can reach a mainstream audience (which includes closeted and questioning folks) that are not as educated on our community as we would be. 

Do I like that it’s an alcohol company doing the most work? No. 

Do I appreciate the non-alcoholic venues and education on the community (which will certainly not be perfect) that they are choosing to fund and put on for Pride Month? Yes.

“Budweiser listed 9 or so UK pride groups it actively talked to and groups all at London Pride. Then made an education thread about the pride flags that included bi, trans, ace, pan, generfluid, and non-binary flags all in respectful ways that didn’t undermine other labels.”

Source: https://www.gaystarnews.com/article/budweiser-pride-in-london-cups-rainbow/ 

I, personally, found it interesting (in a skeptical way) to see them go as far as they did to include more identities than just lesbian, gay, bi, and trans as a way to ‘spread awareness’ but as you said, it’s still taking advantage of our community during the only month of the year where we are most visible. 

I also agree with @fuckyeahasexual on one point where they said:

“I’m not a fan of the “but lgbt people drink more and drinking is bad so this is double bad” takes. It very much reads, to me at least, as “addicts can’t control themselves, don’t reward them with token gestures or support in adding acceptance or awareness.”

As someone who is surrounded by a high amount of addicts where I live (statistically speaking, I really do live in one of the areas most known for a high amount of drug addicts and alcoholics), I do agree that treating recovering LGBTQ+ addicts in an infantilizing way during pride when many of them are more than capable of stopping themselves, is not actually going to help them. 

Complete prohibition of alcohol at public events does not suddenly stop the issue of LGBTQ+ folks being effected by alcoholism because there are plenty of other places they can get it, which leads to more dangerous issues (addiction to hard drugs, homelessness, etc). 

The root of these issues is homophobia. It will always be the root of so many issues plaguing our community and I find that once the stigma of being anything but straight/cis becomes less of an issue, you have less and less LGBTQ+ youth seeking out dangerous ways to cope with the oppression that they face. 

They also made another good point that I think needs to be shared more often if we are going to actually help the addicts in our own community: 

“Saying their should be alcohol free spaces is good and important, but prohibition will not help addicts.”

With all that being said, at the end of the day, I still agree with you and with fuckyeahasexual. Both of y’all bring up points that I think are important to showing acceptance and tolerance towards ALL folks in the LGBTQ+ community. 

I agree that we NEED non-alcoholic spaces for religious LGBTQ+ folks, for LGBTQ+ youth, and for neurodivergent LGBTQ+ folks who don’t like being in loud and overcrowded areas (like me). 

I also agree that completely banning alcohol at public events where there are adults who are capable of controlling their intake will not help the addicts already in our community who are trying to recover because the issue is not the alcohol. It’s the deep-rooted homophobia that forces a lot of LGBTQ+ folks to find and seek out other (often dangerous) ways to cope with how they’ve been treated. 

I believe that both sides to this situation can coexist with nuance and well researched understandings of how recovery from addiction works as well as well researched criticism towards big corporations attempting to ‘look good’ during Pride Month as a way to cash in on an already vulnerable community. 

Again, I do appreciate everything you have to say and I support how you feel 100%. I ain’t gonna debate your point because I think it’s necessary for your point of view to be shared and considered when talking about situations like this.

So thank you for sharing your feelings with me and I hope you don’t mind if I post this publicly for other people to see and mull over. 

#asks #long post #pride #this is important #prfaits #i hope this makes sense??

[lesbianologist]

long rant ahead (length warning).

note: i’m not mentioning anyone specifically. this is a personal rant and also some experiences i’ve had in this “community”. also, t3rfs don’t touch this fucking post i swear to god.

okay so i am kind of really fucking sick of this performative allyship for lesbians from non-lesbians (anyone who isn’t a lesbian) and the lateral aggression towards lesbians when we speak out about how we’re treated by y’all. i’m really fucking tired of it!!!!!!!!!! i’m talking about how i’ll see a post with 21k notes talking about how Cool and Amazing ™ lesbians are and how y’all are supposedly all Protect Lesbians At All Costs but y’all will be the first to turn around on tumblr or on dating sites and say shit to us like:

“i’m not a lesbian but this doesn’t seem like lesbophobia to me”

“i’m not a lesbian but i don’t think you should be getting mad about this”

“can’t you all just fit under the rainbow flag? why do you need to be distinctly recognized?” (usually y’all will include pan, omni, poly, flux, etc flags!!! fyi!!!)

“yeah but you’re gay so why not just say you’re gay instead?”

“you date nb people... isn’t that just queer though?” (gross misundertanding of nb identities and alignments) / “why don’t you identify as (some other term) since it also covers nb ppl?”

“i don’t think they purposefully excluded only lesbian” (even though every other sexuality is included in a cutesy comic about sexualities)

“don’t you think the word lesbian is a bit aggressive?”

“isn’t the word lesbian a bit regressive?”

“are you sure you’re a lesbian?”

“but you’ve had sex with men before?”

“prove it lol”

“it’s not like lesbians are even oppressed anymore though”

“bisexual/pansexual lesbians exist”

“lesbians have monosexual privilege”

“LGBTELG lgbt except LG” (which was a reblog that was later deleted)

“the Evil LGs”

“LG elitists”

mommy/daddy issue stereotypes

false stereotypes about butch and femme lesbians (eg. “femme means feminine”)

“why do/n’t you conform to gender roles?”

“lesbian used to just mean wlw so lesbian should include wlw who have attraction to men too because lesbian meaning exclusivity to w/w attraction is lesbian separatism” (shitty phrasing but the argument y’all make is that lesbian used to include all wlw so it should just go back to that or whatever the fuck) (tbh this one also makes me the angriest lmao i am a lesbian, and bisexuals aren’t lesbians; we are both distinct beautiful different whole identities)

yes, those are all statements i’ve had said to me or read online (all on here). gOD i could fucking go on and on and on about the fucking lesbophobia i have experienced in this shitty “community” (or whatever it is now honestly) the funniest part is? Y’ALL SEE NO PROBLEM WITH IT. you’ll fully scrutinize a lesbian’s identity down to the core and turn around and joke about us as if you have the fucking right to. not to mention the fucking hypersexualized art of lesbians (eg. lesbians with little to no clothes on; way to go with hypersexualizing us!!) i see on here with like people represented as identities in posts. you give ZERO thought to how it harms us, at all. it’s all cute and dandy to make fun of us for being “clueless lesbians haha uwu” but you won’t recognize that the reason we’re “clueless” isn’t because we’re stupid, but because we’re fucking terrified of violent homophobia. we’re terrified of being beaten and raped and murdered. we’re terrified of the possibility that saying “i’m a lesbian” can entice some men freaks into trying to “correctively” rape us or, god forbid, bludgeon us to death for rejecting him. we’re terrified that the girl we call cute or ask out or whatever might just have her boyfriend waiting to beat the shit out of us (ESP when it’s gnc, trans, and/or butch lesbians) OR ask us to have a threesome with them since lesbian is literally its own “porn category”. idk i just really wish people would stop pretending like “the LGs” or more aptly described by some of you demons on here “the Evil LGs” (or even more aptly, lesbians in general) aren’t marginalized too. frankly i see a lot of lateral aggression lately from the rest of the community towards LG people, especially lesbians. you’ll claim to be our sisters, and then simultaneously do this shit to us. we’re supposedly sisters or family or whatever, but we’re always fucking painted to be the aggressors, and yet you all constantly do it to us and get away with it. if you read all of this and the only thing you gained is getting defensive then you missed the fucking point and you need to sort out your lesbophobia.

like, one of my mutuals (pussysoupforthesoul who deactivated after receiving a lot of lesbophobia, racism, misogyny, etc) wrote about this kind of toxic behaviour pretty frequently, and the amount of people in the “community” who would vehemently defend their lesbophobia was frankly repulsive. irdc anymore how WoKe you pretend to be. just stop talking about lesbians as if we have systematic privilege over y’all when we’re still being murdered in concentration camps in russia or being targeted in hate campaigns or being correctively raped or disowned by our families. stop talking about us like we’re some separate, evil entity that’s plotting against the rest of the community or some separate group of angry dykes just whining.

literally just.... please stop.

#personal #vent #tw lesbophobia #tw misogyny

[browneyes-asiandragon]

i cant do readmore on mobile so sorry

I haven’t ranted in a while so here goes lol.

I went to Paris pride today and it was an amazing experience. However, I was really disappointed by the lack of official representation. The attendees were diverse as hell, but all the floats and vendors and shit ONLY had the rainbow flag and that kinda pissed me off.

Pride month has left me with a bad taste in my mouth this month, because of the amount of infighting and “discourse” surrounding every group of LGBTQ+ people except cis gay males. This whole fucking month has been nothing except excluding lesbians, terf issues, pitting bi and pan people against each other, the ace/aro discourse, ace ppl being homo/lesbophobic, discourse over the word “queer”, etc etc etc. It’s ruining the meaning of pride. None of us are united. We don’t feel like a family.

Fucking. Get your shit together. We need to be united bla bla bla Abraham Lincoln quote etc etc etc. But for real. It’s a real nasty time in history right now for everyone LGBT. We need to unite. Stop excluding lesbians and their flag. All the flags are relatively recent that’s not an excuse. Stop trying to exclude bi ppl. Ace and Aro people aren’t straight. Trans people are real and valid. People who wanna identify as queer should be able to. Ace people, gay PDA isn’t opressing you.

I’m just. Mad. It’s 3am. I don’t give a shit.

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All Updates here:

to clarify, ace people can be heteroromantic and aro ppl can be heterosexual and if they wanna identify as straight they can I was referring to people saying that ppl who identify as ace and aro don’t belong in the community because “they’re straight”. Big pardon it’s 4am and I’m bad with words. To conclude People who are both ace and aro are LGBT. Get some reading comprehension please.

This is my personal rant and I also never claimed I was intelligent. Happy Pride c:

#ryz rants #long post #discourse #q slur #im trying to tag this as well as possible so anyone who doesnt wanna see this doesnt have to #cussing tw #ace discourse #ignore this

[pettyvamp]

listen i know companies are not our friends and they dont care about uh blah blah blah whatever but this month they are pandering to us and bc the entire lgbt community wants to forget lesbians and forget our flag and forget to make art with us and forget to make products with us it also means that companies leave us out too. i can find straight ally pins on targets website and people can find rainbow, bi, trans, and pan flags in stores there but yet nowhere have i seen a single thing solely representing lesbians and you know what im tired and that shit does hurt after a while. it seems like no one wants to make specifically lesbian products and im so fucking tired of people making excuses for when were left out. like yeah i get that "you can support actual lgbt ppl who are selling lesbian merch" but like listen to me real quick. i cant order anything online bc my parents will see it but i can go to the mall or even to pride with my friend as an """ally""" and if given the opportunity to buy something while there i could have it and just hide it. but here i am stuck with people who dont want to acknowledge that i exist when its literally the first fucking letter of the acronym like fuck i had more actual products i could buy when i ided as pan which isnt even in the acronym (not saying pan ppl arent valid or dont deserve merch too just like theyre not literally the first letter yet still forgotten) im just im so tired and im a fucking water sign dominant person and were 6 (technically 7 cause its 1am but you get what i mean) days into pride month and ive reached my fucking breaking point where i start caring and im just disappointed im so fucking disappointed honestly

#this is a mess im tired and sad ok #just give me lesbian representation #its not that fucking hard