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sunfoxfic · 2 years
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(and because you love me uwu) reverse unpopular opinion: Marichat
Marichat is the only side of the love square to me that feels genuinely devoid of expectations on both of their sides. Adrinette and Ladynoir are obviously well established with typical dynamics, and both of them know what to expect from the other person while in those dynamics. Ladrien, on the other hand, isn't a side with a whole lot of expectations for how it will turn out, but each person puts a lot of expectations on how they'll conduct themselves, and that turns the interactions into something they're trying to script.
Marichat, on the other hand, is neither established enough in canon nor burdened by either of their baggage, and it ends up that they can interact with the other how they would choose to interact if they were stripped of everything else. And that leads to a lot of nonsensical situations, because while they both feel perfectly comfortable around the other, there's no reason they can say aloud for why they feel so comfortable. Peak comedy right there.
But it truly does allow for them to be calm and collected and normal around the other person, and whenever they interact, it feels like they're having fun. And however much I love the other sides of the love square, that really can't be said for any of the other sides, especially not Ladrien.
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PEAK MARICHAT DYNAMIC RIGHT HERE
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gollivant · 2 years
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I think fanon love square where Adrienette, Ladynoir, Marichat and even Ladrien happen concurrently is honestly kind of amazing, and here’s why:
1) They find each other. Even though they can’t know each other’s identities, they fall for the other person anyway. The idea that they can’t help but fall for each other, that the two of them are just drawn to each other no matter what, is just incredibly appealing to me? Canon says that Marinette and Adrien are meant to be, but fanon is what really does it right. It reminds me of this quote from The Song of Achilles:
I could recognize him by touch alone, by smell; I would know him blind, by the way his breaths came and his feet struck the earth. I would know him in death, at the end of the world.
(That’s also why I think Adrien and Marinette realising who the other person is on their own may actually be the superior conclusion to the love square, but anyways.)
2) Yes, they fall in love with each other again and again, but it’s never the same. Every time they fall in love, there’s a different dynamic because they present a different part of themselves. Adrien is kind and sincere while Chat is playful and dorky, Marinette is compassionate and clumsy while Ladybug is intelligent and capable. And each aspect of their identities is loved, adored, cherished in its own right. By the time Adrien and Marinette finally get together, they love everything there is to love about the other person. I don’t know about you, but I think this all-encompassing, fated love is the peak of romance.
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amimons · 4 years
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Miraculous Sweet-ember (Sept. 16th)
September 16th: The Dark Owl,  Gigantitan & Glaciator
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The Dark Owl was one of the akuma’s who came close to exposing Paris’ heroes and taking away their miraculous. Well too bad for him Ladybug is always a step ahead of the curb. You cannot watch this episode and think that these two don’t trust each others to the fullest. When the situation started looking grim Ladybug hatched a plan. Lucky for her she had the fake miraculous’ she made from the fake villain attack she stage with Chat and Alya for The Owl aka Mr. Damocles. The container they were trapped in was filling up with whipped cream (pretty silly I know) and the only way to prevent it was to hand over their miraculous (well pretend to). 
Even though they covered the camera, The Dark Owl was still able to hear them and with only a short matter of time before the container was gonna fill up Ladybug couldn’t tell Chat was her plan was. She told him to close his eyes and for a moment he believed she was surrendering. But Ladybug told him to trust her and so he did without hesitation. With both their eyes close they detransformed right in front of each other, face to face, but neither of them attempted to open their eyes to catch a peak. I swear I will keep hammering in the trust these two share between each other with my dying breath. Chat trusted Ladybug knowing she will not let them lose their miraculous. And Ladybug trusted Chat not to look at her while she was detransformed. In Fact she even closed her eyes first and didn’t even ask if his eyes were closed...she just knew that they would be closed. The trust is undeniable. 
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Gigantitan centered around one of the many of Marinette’s plan to confess her feelings to Adrien, but this time she was calling in for backup. Marinette finally was ready to open up about her crush on Adrien to the rest of her friends. But they already caught on so it was no surprise to them and they were ready to help her out with it. It wouldn’t be a Marinette plan without being overthought out and a tad complicated. Doesn’t matter because they all love Marinette and since she is always there for them of course they will be there for her when she needs it! 
I love how supportive the girls are and I enjoy their playful teasing they do between the group. While informing them group on the plan, Marinette lays out the plan while Alya provides the preferred dialogue that Adrien would say towards Marinette with a silly Adrien impression. And of course Alix jumps in with a pretty solid roast about Marinette making them all laugh. Marinette isn’t even bothered by the teasing since its all in good fun, something that I really appreciate seeing in girl groups. She is super stroke to have her friends there to help her and they are all dedicated to do their best for their good friend Marinette. We love to see it. 
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Glaciator...yes obviously I’m going to be talking about the rooftop scene(s). It’s a big deal okay! After Chat Noir missed his opportunity to confess his love to Ladybug (in a serious manner) he was ready for his second attempt. Planning on wooing Ladybug with a romantic atmosphere on a rooftop, Chat Noir invited Ladybug to hang out with him off duty. But Marinette had plans that night with her friends to get some ice cream from André the ‘magical’ ice cream vender. She was really anticipating Adrien showing up so she told Chat she busy but he said she could stop by if it ends early. Oh ah the irony...they unknowingly ‘stood’ each other up because they were both busy trying to have a romantic night with their crush oop-. Honestly I’m here for that drama even if it pains me.
Both feeling defeated and heartbroken the unexpected happens, Chat Noir joins Marinette on her balcony for a lonely hearts club meeting. But in all seriousness I think it’s sweet that Adrien gravitated towards Marinette when he needed comfort. He clearly values her and when he found out that her hearts was also broken (oblivious to the fact it was caused by him) he immediately wanted to cheer her up. It was also with this Marichat moment where Marinette finally found out that Chat Noir really had earnest romantic feelings for Ladybug. Before she was convinced he was just playfully flirting with her which is why she carelessly deflect any flirtation. It was a big moment of realization for her. When the time came that Ladybug finally joined Chat on the roof after the Glaciator battle, she knew she had to tell him where her heart lies. Chat finally learns that Ladybug has feelings for someone else and that is why she cannot return them. He doesn’t complain about it, he doesn’t get angry, he accepts her feelings and calls her a friend. Overall our two main characters got a lot of clarity during their rooftop moments that significantly impact their dynamic.  
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About Sweet-ember:
For the month of September I wanted to spread some positivity and praise Miraculous Ladybug on the things I’ve appreciated/enjoyed from the show.
Everyday I’m going to select one particular moment, event, theme, etc. from an episode of Miraculous and shared what I liked from that episode. Each post will discuss 2-3 episodes (from season 1-3; 78 episodes in total).
Whether its something big or small there is something positive that I can take away from every single episode of Miraculous.
Please feel free to add a moment from these particular episodes that you loved to this post as well!
Salt towards the show, characters, ships will not be tolerated!
Sweet-ember posts
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littlemisssquiggles · 5 years
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So I'm currently head-over-heels for The Dragon Prince and I don't think anything will pull me out of this obsession for a long time. While I'm crying over this show, what did you personally enjoy about the quality of the plot and the characters in general? I'd love to hear your opinion from your amazing writing while I (im)patiently wait for season 3.
Hey there Snowflake. Sorry for the late response. That’sactually a really good question. Admittedly, what first drew me into The Dragon Prince series was the fact that it was created by the one of the originalHead Writers for Avatar:The Last Airbender.
A:TLA will always remain a gem inmy all time favourite animated series list so knowing that one of the men responsiblefor shaping its story branched out and made his own thing immediately peaked myintrigue. It was basically the same sentiment Ihad when I first heard about RWBY being a fan of Monty since his fan made animations like Dead Fantasy.
It’s kind of hard for me to describeexactly what it is that appeals to me the most about the writing for The Dragon Prince. I guess if I’m being completely honest here, what I love mostabout this series are itscharacters. More importantly I love how theseries writes its characters and treats them.
This might be an odd question to ask but have you ever been invested in a series where you got the sense that atsome point the show-runners just forgot how to write for their own establishedcharacters? So instead we get moments where characters behave out of characterbased on what the series has established as their personality and you get thesense that they are only acting this way for the sake of pushing the plot regardless of whether or not the characters’ actions makes sensein the context of who they are as…well…a character?
I’ll give you an example soallow me to deviate here for a sec. Are you familiar with a series calledMiraculous: Tales of Ladybug and Chat Noir? In case you don’t know, it is aFrench 3D animated series following the heroic conquests of Ladybug and ChatNoir---two teenage heroes tasked with protecting the city of Paris from thenefarious masked villain known as Hawkmoth who uses butterfly-type monstersknown as Akuma to infest unsuspecting citizens; feeding into their negativeemotions to transform them into supervillains who Hawkmoth then task to stealLadybug and Chat Noir’s miraculouses which are the source of their power.
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There’s also the titbit where Ladybugand Chat Noir are each other’s love interests, both in and out of costume. Ladybug isactually a young girl named MarinetteDupain-Cheng, who in her civilian form is in love witha boy in her class named Adrien Agreste. However unbeknownst to Marinette, hercrush Adrien is actually Chat Noir---her partner in crime-fighting and as Chat Noir, Adrien is inlove with Marinette as Ladybug.
The whole point of the series is that thesetwo knucklehead teen superheroes are in love with each other but as each other’s counterparts while being completely oblivious to the truth abouttheir respective identities. It’s a brilliant concept and if all of that sounds like something very interestingto you then it is.
Despite what I’m about to say, keep inmind that Miraculous is a really goodshow . In spite of my current misgivingsabout it as someone who has been with its since its first season, I would still recommend it to anyone curious about giving it a watch.
It’s a delightful cute show. I justhave some things to say about it but this is only myopinion . Even if you might appreciate mythoughts and views on certain things, my opinionis NOT law.  My opinion is only a representation of mythoughts and feelings toward a piece of medium I indulge in. It’s not a reflection of the overall quality of the medium. Those views are up to you. 
Forgive me if I sound like I’m ramblingnow but I genuinely feel it important to give that small disclaimer since wekind of live in an era of free speech where others use their opinions to lambastothers on why their opinions are right or wrong; based on their opinion.
I am not one of those people. You areallowed to like or dislike something regardless of whether or not you agreewith my opinion of it and vice versa. All I ask is for respect of my views and I shall give that of yours in return.
That being said, let’s talk Miraculous. Andin regards to how on earth this ties into TheDragon Prince, we’ll get to that surely.
At the start, Miraculous was one of my favourite animated series especially as a fan of 3D art and animation.I also couldn’t get enough of the whole Ladybug and Chat Noir love story especiallywith all the multiple pairings that branched out from this one couple---Ladynoir, Adrinette, Marichat and Ladrien. It was silly but adorable all the same and I ate up the fluff like the hopeless romantic I am. 
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However; as the seasons went by, itultimately became rather difficult for me to remain truly invested in seeing these two characters achieve their goals since I couldn’t relate to them anymore. 
It’s glaringlybothersome to me now how everything is just always handed to Marinette/Ladybug, our so-calledbeloved protagonist; even when her actions of the day might prove that she doesn’t deserve it. And it certainly doesn’t help when this is done at time at the expense of Chat Noir/Adrien who is often kept in the dark when he’s supposed to be the deuteragonist who shares relevance to the plot as our main heroine.  
It’s hard for me to care aboutthe relationship between Adrien and Marinette/ Ladybug and Chat Noir anymorewhen the show constantly contradicts itself on wanting to show their relationshipmoving forward while also backpedaling in other episodes (for example: episodes such as Animaestro and Oblivio from the current third season).
This makes any progression the plotattempts to pull for their development feel pointless in the end and after three seasons of this tango, as a Miraculer, I’vesadly lost interest in wanting to see our two heroes get together.  This is sad because that’s technically the backbone ofthe show. Fans know that Ladybug and Chat Noir are going to get together because theplot has established that from the get-go and constantly reminds the audiencethat this is going to be a sure endgame. But where it ultimately fell short for me iskeeping me invested in the pairing. While I’ll admit that I was fully on board forthis ride when it first started, now after three seasons, I’m tired. The whole ‘Oooh! Will Ladybug and Chat Noir fall in love both as superheroes and civilians? Will they learn each other’s true identities’ song and dance has become stale for me and even the introduction of imposter love interests doesn’t help.
It only serves to kind of sour the pot for me. Why bother developing these fake relationships when you’ve done the equivalent of nothing to help progress Marinette and Adrien’s relationship both as themselves and as heroes. Season 2 started us off with something that could’ve been potentially great if furthered in its current season but so far, Season 3 hasn’t done much to service the development left behind from that last season.
All things considered, I still like Miraculous andI’m still going to keep tuning in for future episodes since thereare other aspects and characters within the show that I liked enough to keep medevoted.
I still like Adrien very much as one ofthe supposed main two characters (even when the show might make you thinkotherwise). But in regards to LB and CN’s whole song and dance with their so-calledlove story, it’s hard to cheer for a relationship between two characters whenthe show constantly flip flops on what their relationship is supposed to be.
One minute they are destined partners; made for each other because they are meant to be important to eachother. Therefore, their strong dynamic is meant to be proof of what makesthem work as both a team and potential lovers. Next minute Ladybug is a ‘strong, independent heroine who doesn’t needChat Noir’ and he’s painted as more of a liabilityto her than an asset---the loveable yet fumbling bumbling idiot sidekick whosesole purpose is to be a dude inthe distress for the sake of pumping up Ladybug’salready plot-inflated ego all the while gullibly kissing her ass even duringmoments when she treats him terribly.
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I humbly apologize in advance if thereare any fellow miraculers reading this response post who might feel veryoffended by my comments toward Miraculous. I’ll admit. My words are indeed harsh. Sorry. But... I still wishto stand by them because they are a blunt representation of my current stancetoward the current state of writing within the show.
I used to reallylike how Miraculous portrayed itscharacters. Loved it even. For three years, Miraculous was my top favourite show and fandom. But following the end of itssecond season, I don’t know how to feel about it anymore. I still like it but its characters man---my interest in their growth is dwindling. 
I guess the biggest gripe for me with Miraculous atthe moment is that I don’t feel as if the characters have really grown at allsince the show first started. Even after two full seasons going into its thirdrun; despite the plot thrusting them into scenarios that one would assume would help them to change (for better or worse), these characters---at least our main ones feel thesame. I know the show has done things to show progression for its charactersespecially in terms of relationships. However it all feels meaningless in the end.
And the flip flopping doesn’t help thiscase. At times, I felt as if Miraculous was being written by two different typesof writers. One who wants to show these characters growing from the people theyused to be because they are meant to while another just wants to keep thesecharacters in the same tropes they started off with. I’m not sure if any other Miraculershares the same opinion but that’s how I feel.
That being said and getting back ontrack, it’s the complete opposite with TheDragon Prince. In this show, I can tell that theplot actually does affect the characters and they react to them in ways you might expecttheir character to react to it given their established personalities. I also lovehow the Dragon Prince has this nice balance to it.  It knows how to juggle its more and heart-wrenching serious moments with its comedy in a way that rarely feels jarring. At least to me.
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In TDP, I get the stronger sense that thesecharacters shapes the story in the world around with their adventures and individual experiences being veyr important to the narrative as opposed to the contrary where the story is this and these characters are molded to fit whatever story the writers feel to thrust them into; if that makes sense. And this all boils back to just how much I lovethe characters of this show. I don’t think there is a single character in theTDP cast that I don’t like.
I even have a soft spot in my heart forthe supporting side characters who our Dragonic Trio occasionally interact with during their travels. This is why I was so relieved to see Grenfinally be freed in Book 2. It’s about time my beautiful strawberry man gotfreed.
The DragonPrince is so great that I even care about itsvillain characters as much as the heroes. Even though Lord Viren and hischildren: Claudia and Soren are painted as the antagonists to our Dragonic Trio, I like that there is so much more to them than just that. On the contrary, there are aspects ofthese three that makes me think they’re not villains. Particularly Lord Viren. The guy isn’t just the classic mustache twirling bad guy. He has layers. Depth. 
I understand that Lord Viren is supposedto the bad guy however; he’s not entirely bad. There is a good side to him and its evidence in his relationship with the royal family. You cantell that Viren genuinely cared for King Harrow and had great respect for Queen Sarai since she saved his life. 
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I guess what I’m trying to say is thatthe characters of TDP feel real to me. They don’t feel like just characters in a story. They feel like peoplewith experiences that their audience can relate to. Connect with. The Dragon Writers know and understand their characters as people and know how to write for their characters and because of howwell they’ve portrayed them, it makes me as the viewer more interested in theirstories as the main plot carries on.
I pray that the Dragon Writers keepthis up going forward with the remaining books. Sometimes show-runners start to suffer from writer’s fatigue and/or forget how to write for the verycharacters they created the longer the plot is stretched to the point that the series comes to feel like it lost direction at some point (coughsVoltroncoughs). 
I hope this won’t be the case for the Dragon Writers.Two seasons in and these guys continue to keep me loving their world and Icannot wait to see these characters be fleshed out further in the upcoming book. The Dragon Prince Book 3 cannot come any quicker.
I can’t wait to see what Rayla and Callum’s adventures with Zym across Xadia will be like. I still can’t believe they separated the Dragonic Trio. Usually you have to wait like…what…three-four seasons to get the squad ripped apart but nah…The Dragon Prince did that in season two.
Still in shock over that. But as much as I’m going tomiss Ezran in the party, I’d by totally lying if my Rayllum shipping heart isn’t beyondecstatic to see what these two duo adventures together will belike. Particularly following Rayla’s near confession.
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I’m curious to see how that will affectthe way Rayla interacts with Callum from now on. I’m mostly just excited to see blushingRayla awkward about her crush on Callum. As of Book2, I think it’s safe to say that Callummight be over his crush on Claudia. Or perhaps his resentment over hers and Soren’s betrayal currently outweighsany former romantic feelings he might still have for her. Feels bad m’dude. I don’t ship Callum with Claudia at all but that doesn’t mean I want Callum to hate her.I really like Claudia as a character and I want the best for her and Soren too.My children are going down a dark path and I don’t like it. Especially Claudia. I still stand with my theory where I don’t think Book 2 will be the last timeClaudia will use the extreme form of dark magic to aid with Soren’s paralysis.I still think Soren is still permanently paralyzed and that Claudia’s spell isonly a temporary fix meaning that Claudia may have to keep performing Viren levels ofdraining magic from other magical beings to keep her brother stable…which is going taint herso much. I just hope that in the end, Soren will be the one to save his sisterfrom her own damnation.
At the end of the day, Soren and Claudia love each other and will do anythingfor each other. If there is anyone I trust to save Claudia should she ever loseherself to dark magic (which let’s just face it, will tragically happen down the line); it’s Soren--- thevery person she’s doing this for. Damn! The Writing for these two is so good! Megaprops to the Dragon Writers for writing such an engaging, strong brother andsister dynamic and sibling love and loyalty to one another without making it borderline…well…incestuous.  
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I don’t want to see Claudia fallto the dark side, guys. Despite being a firm user ofdark magic like her father, Claudia is actually the opposite of her chosen element. I feel as if Claudia was willing to theput in the effort to awakening her arcana as Callum did, she could possibilitybe another Sky Mage like Callum or perhaps an Ocean Mage. Or maybe an Earth Mage? Who knows. It’s all just theories and speculation of mine for now.
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Speaking of which; next up is Ezran. I’m excited to see what his travels will be like. Ezran is so young yet he’s sodown to earth and possesses a level headed maturity and outlook on the world around him that one can appreciate.Ezran will make a great king some day and if Book3 is the kick-starter to that part ofhis arc towards that goal then bring it.
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I am ready to follow Prince Ezran on his own separate journey back home with Smexy Dreadlock Man (I’m sorry his name escapes me at the moment but his handsomeness doesn’t).
This also makes me curious if Ezranwill ever get to meet the young queen---the daughter of the Two Queens who gavetheir lives along with Ezran’s mom. I’m actually really, really interested inseeing Prince Ezran meeting QueenAanya.
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I kind of low-key ship Aanya and Ezran. Yes, I know they haven’t met at all and we have zero idea of howthese two would get along should they encounter each other. Nonetheless, theidea of Ezran and Aanya coming together intrigues me because of how perfect itwould be should it happen.
I love the idea of Ezran someday possibly marrying Aanya with thetwo joining their kingdoms. After all, theQueens of Duran sought out King Harrow during their crisis in the winter andKing Harrow was willing to open his kingdom to the People of Duran.
Sure Viren tried to fight against it atfirst but Harrow stuck to his guns. Both Ezran and Aanya are currently the very young heirs to their respective thrones expected to lead their people. Aanyahas already begun her ruling and now Ezran is on his way to reclaim his throne. Bothlost their mothers who sacrificed their lives for their people. If Ezran andAanya meet, I think they can hit it off and make great friends. While I doubt romance willbe a thing for them since they are still children, I still want these two tomeet and form a close long-lastingfriendship that could one day potentially lead toa union that unites two kingdoms like their parents did long ago. But that’sjust me with my theories.
I’m hoping that Ezran’s adventures withSmexy Dreadlock Man will lead to him possibly passing through Duran while alsoencountering BirdHarrow along the way. That’s a reunion I’malso looking forward to.
And yeah, that’s pretty much all I haveto say for now on The Dragon Prince and its upcoming season. 
Fair notSnowflake, you’re not the only one excited for Book 3. Maybe you should follow Tim Kamiski on Twitter. I believe he’s an Art Director at Wonderstorm working on TheDragon Prince Game. He released a poster art for Book 3 that looks hype.
It’s a shame we’ll possibly have towait till early next year for Book 3. But until such a time, I hope my response toyour question was a good enough one to help you ride the Wonderstorm till the next season, fam.
~LittleMissSquiggles(2019)
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this episode was so FUN, like the marichat scene had peak fanfic marichat dynamic and everything marichat actually is 😭. it had kagami and marinette. ADRIEN AND GABRIEL. a little of kagami and adrien’s friendship after their break up. chat noir’s development. this episode would honestly be my favorite if it wasn’t for the ending. it seemed like we finally would get a “change”, something that would change the same dynamic we have since 2017 but that wasn’t the case unfortunately. Either way, im so SO grateful for this episode, it finally showed marichat’s true colors lol and fun dynamic and they did it in such a fun way too! 100% would recomend this episode to anyone who isn’t caught up with mlb and wants to give it try again!
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