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X-Men: Before The Fall – Sinister Four 1 (2023) by Kieron Gillen & Paco Medina
Cover: Lucas Werneck
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comicwaren · 8 days
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From X-Men: Forever #001, “A Ghost”
Art by Luca Maresca and Federico Blee
Written by Kieron Gillen
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Orbis Stellaris and Doctor Stasis in X-Men: Forever #1
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sinistermusings · 10 months
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X-Men: Before The Fall – Sinister Four 1 (2023) by Kieron Gillen & Paco Medina
Cover: Lucas Werneck
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geekcavepodcast · 10 months
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Marvel Comics Announces “X-Men: Before the Fall - Sinister Four”
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X-Men: Before the Fall - Sinister Four #1 is one of a series of one-shots will set the stage for Marvel’s ‘Hellfire Gala’ and the ‘Fall of X’ saga. The comic hails from writer Kieron Gillen and artist Paco Medina.
Nathaniel Essex has four clones and it appears that Mother Righteous and Doctor Stasis are plotting...or maybe just enjoying a good wine. “Reeling from the SINS OF THE SINISTER timeline, Mister Sinister failed to reach Dominion and is now answering for his universal crimes. But what of the other Nathanial Essex clones? Who exactly are Mother Righteous, Orbis Stellaris, and Doctor Stasis? What plans might they have for this newly restored universe?” (Marvel Comics)
X-Men: Before the Fall - Sinister Four #1, featuring a cover by Lucas Werneck, goes on sale on July 5, 2023.
(Image via Marvel Comics - Preview for X-Men: Before the Fall - Sinister Four #1)
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The Sinister Four
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1000-year-old-virgin · 10 months
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Where is Miss Sinister?
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Marvel has a bad habit of creating characters and then completely forgetting about them for years.
With all the attention Mr. Sinister and his fellow clones (see Doctor Stasis & Orbis Stellaris) are getting you would think that Marvel would find some way to at least mention or incorporate Miss Sinister into the mix (Claudine Renko)
It's strange that she hasn't even been mentioned during this Krakoa era or even during the Sins of Sinister stories. I hope they haven't forgotten about her existence like they have with so many other great characters.
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wwerthi0 · 1 year
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“Survival of the fittest”
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“Charles was right. In the end there is only one way to find a solution to my predicament...”
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thehollowprince · 1 year
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So now all we need is the Mother Righteous as the Essex of Hearts reveal, and we'll have a full set.
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heckcareoxytwit · 9 months
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A preview of X-Men: Before the Fall - Sinister Four #1
X-MEN: BEFORE THE FALL - SINISTER FOUR #1
FALL OF X IS COMING!
As the nineteenth century drew to a close, the dying Nathaniel Essex unleashed four clones of himself into the world. They’ve been haunting it ever since, while lurking in the shadows. We know what Sinister has been up to. What about the others? In this issue, we delve into their past…and discover their latest atrocity. When they start to…date?
Written by: Kieron Gillen Art by: Paco Medina, Edgar Delgado, Photobunker Cover by: Lucas Werneck Page Count: 36 Pages Release Date: July 5, 2023
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racefortheironthrone · 3 months
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I think I've heard multiple times that Mr. Sinister originally was going to be... some kind of projection of a kid in the orphanage Scott was raised in. Has this idea ever been explored by other writers, be it for Sinister or another character?
Yes, originally the plan was that the kid who had bullied Scott in the orphanage was also a mutant, and had created Mr. Sinister as his idea of the ultimate villain...and Gambit as his idea of the ultimate hero. Hence why Sinister in Inferno keeps calling Cyclops a "sissy" - which is an oddly childish insult.
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Far from exploring Claremont's rough concept (because I don't know how much room to run there is there, tbh), later writers went in a completely different direction - first there was the whole business with Sinister's genetic war with Apocalypse where he was trying to breed Cable as a weapon to take down his creator. The big innovation was Kieron Gillen's decision to reinvent Sinister as a camp Victorian eugenicist - hence the whole idea of "Sinister as a system" and his increasingly baroque use of genetics to turn mutants and the x-gene itself into objects to be exploited - which Hickman ran with in Secret Wars and HOXPOX, and then Gillen et al. refined in X-Men, Immortal X-Men and Sins of Sinister.
Now there's a really complex story going on with the original Nathaniel Essex, the four suits of Mister Sinister, Orbis Stellaris, Doctor Stasis, and Mother Righteous, and their life-or-death competition to become Dominions that really ran with the ideas Hickman introduced in HOXPOX.
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bigskydreaming · 6 months
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I hope that after Fall of X is over and we get into the Rise of the Powers of X era, we get a new Destiny map, like the one we got in Immortal X-Men #3. Watching how many of the possible futures Irene mapped play out or get ticked off as no longer being possibilities was a fun element and I really hope we get something like it moving forward. Especially since Irene said all the previous futures she foresaw vanished the moment the Moira Engine was destroyed, and its a whole new ballgame now.
Except, also, its not.
Because her visions of the future were always a completely different thing from the futures that ALREADY happened, thanks to Moira's past lives. The futures we saw through Irene's eyes, like the Empire of the Red Diamond in Sins of Sinister, or the Expanse.....those are null and void now, with the last viable one left from her original map being A New Krakoa.
But while most people concluded that Rise of X was going to follow Fall of X, the specific callbacks to House of X and Powers of X are key. This era is technically called Fall of the House of X, and the next one is Rise of the Powers of X.....meaning that the futures MOIRA already saw are going to become more relevant. House of X was always more focused on the present day, and mutantkind facing their Earth-based enemies like Orchis. Powers of X still always showed a united mutantkind....but those issues were focused on the future, longterm threats facing mutants. Specifically, the Phalanx and the Dominions.
And especially with Mother Righteous seeming close to attaining Dominion status with what she's doing in Immortal X-Men, and Sins of Sinister Year 1000 confirming that at least one of the four Sinisters does attain Dominion status and Mother Righteous being the most likely contender (the writers all like her too much for it to be anyone else. Nobody cares about Orbis Stellaris, and only Duggan gives a shit about Dr. Stasis)...
That to me suggests that after Fall of X we're FINALLY gonna have a breather from Orchis and the constant focus on human bigotry and the new Krakoa will (along with a newly united Arakko, their new direction reaffirmed after Lodus Logos and Storm's faction wins the Genesis War) shift as they turn their focus towards more cosmic storylines. And part of why I think Mother Righteous is the one who'll win Dominion-hood is because the Phalanx are already out there as a Dominion-tier threat and they've put too much work into building up the mystical side of the X-books to pump the brakes there now....so mutantkind will be facing the threat of a mystical Dominion via Mother Righteous, and the cosmic Dominion threat of the Phalanx.
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And this was the original Destiny map, and we saw where the bottom branch of it led, all the way to The Expanse, which is what resulted in this future:
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The Legion XII branch was a non-starter (my hunch is its what would have happened if Legion took Mother Righteous' deal back in Legion of X #2, but the second he turned her down and she offered the Spirit of Variance to Sean instead, that timeline got snipped).
The Reign of Apocalypse likely got snipped via Apocalypse's own choices to shift his priorities down the road that's led to him changing his name and approach to Revelation now.
Cassandra Supernova was likely a timeline teasing the plotline Orlando was setting up in Marauders, for Nova to escape from Threshold and plot her revenge through the ages...
Nimrod Extinction Event, and how often it recurred as a possibility, is self-explanatory, and so is Krakoan Dissolution. And the Spark Inquisition is IMO where things might have led if they hadn't detected Onslaught's influence and he'd gotten his hooks into the Altar and corrupted what they were building there.
And of course, all of those possibilities were snipped for good the second Judgment Day happened, and committed the timeline to only following one of the branches that branched off AFTER that point....
With the second Nimrod Extinction Event likely being if Orchis succeeds here and now, The Broken Sword being what might have happened if they hadn't figured out Brand was a traitor and her influence over SWORD had been left unchecked (with the Brand-as-a-traitor discovery notably only happening AFTER Judgment Day).
And of course Sins of Sinister is the branching event that led directly into The Empire of the Red Diamond and from there, the Storm System, with both those branches being snipped off the second Moira broke the Moira Engine in the future and Mother Righteous' spell broke it in the present. And we don't have any info yet on what the new future looks like, because we haven't seen Destiny map out its possibilities yet.
But all of that leaves us with the one remaining possible timeline branch, given that we know thanks to well, genre basics, that mutantkind are not going to be wiped out in Fall of X and the second Nimrod Extinction Event is not the outcome here.....leaving....A New Krakoa as the last of Destiny's mapped outcomes. With Fall of the House of X leaving Moira and Xavier out of prominence and favor, and the whole Quiet Council having resigned as of the Hellfire Gala, post FoX, Krakoans are likely going to elect an entire new Council, this time chosen by the people rather than handpicked by the three Founders.....
And then it'll be a brand new ballgame with no futures we've seen so much as a hint of yet, because as of the end of Fall of X, its a completely blank slate.
Despite ALL the foreknowledge, prophecies, time-travelers and precogs in play this era....
Sinister with his Moira Engine (gone)...
Moira with her past lives (the knowledge in them rendered null and void by the simple basic fact that Moira only betrayed mutantkind because her past lives had her convinced that mutantkind ALWAYS loses and Omega Sentinel, who came back from the future of Moira's current life, Life X, only did so because in HER past, mutantkind WON)....
Destiny with her map (followed to completion)...
Etc, etc....
All of that advance intel has all been used up as of now or altered past the point of usefulness. Same being true of all the future knowledge of everyone who was worried about Orchis winning and wiping out mutantkind here, if in fact mutantkind does not end up wiped out, which we know they won't....which means Kid Cable's concerns, etc, are no longer viable.
Tabula Rasa time.
Except for one last time-traveler. The only one left who might have future knowledge that's still relevant, because her future is the only one that still has a possibility of coming true....
Omega Sentinel.
With a possible map of what's to come, in...Rise of the Powers of X.
Because, after all, her future....is the one where mutants win.
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comicwaren · 2 months
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From Dead X-Men #001, “Earth Intruders”
Art by Jonas Scharf, Bernard Chang, Vincenzo Carratù and Frank Martin
Written by Steve Foxe
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gotham-at-nightfall · 11 months
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The Four Suits of Sinister!
Mister Sinister (♦️), Doctor Stasis (♣️), Orbis Stellaris (♠️), and Mother Righteous (♥️)
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kierongillen · 1 year
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How involved with the creation of Orbis Stellaris, Doctor Stasis and Mother Righteous were you? Given that they all debuted in other books but tie so closely to Sins of Sinister and your Immortal arc, I'm curious as to whether Jonathan Hickman set them up, or you/Al/Si/Gerry came up with their roles and connections.
Very much enjoying the horrible awfulness of SoS.
Thank you.
Stasis was Gerry's plot. Si suggested that there clearly should be 4 Sinisters. The writer who debuted each Sinister was their primary architect - Al for Orbis, Si for Mother.
I'm really not sure of the exact providence of the structure beneath them - Magic, Mutant, Cosmic, Magic. Gerry gave the first piece with Stasis always being conceived as a Sinister who uses human-derived stuff in the same way that Sinister exploits mutants. I think suggesting the other two may have been me, but It was also something that was talked a bunch in the room. I was the one who did most the writing on the connections - as you say, Immortal is the connective tissue of all of this, with issue 8 as the rosetta stone.
Jon didn't generate any of this, though he was the one to suggest doing Sins as an event, building off where I left things at the end of Immortal's first year.
Apologies if I've got any of the above wrong. Don't trust me.
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lovecatsys · 11 months
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why is Orbis Stellaris the only one who has a normal skin tone. Actually I have so many fucking questions about the sinister four lol
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