#odessa drake

[amageish]

So, Felicia Hardy mentions having a girlfriend in Marvel's Spider-Man 2 and this has resulted in a lot of discussion... I wanna talk about it!

One thing I find really interesting about the conversation is that so many articles discussing it credit Felicia's bisexuality to this moment from 2021, where she and Odessa Drake have an on-panel kiss followed by an off-panel one-night-stand.

While this is pretty friggin' gay and good for them, I feel like reducing the story to "Black Cat kissed a girl in 2021 and that's why she has a girlfriend in the video game" is missing a lot of the larger context... so let's discuss some of the history of Felicia Hardy, AKA the chaotic crime bisexual Black Cat.

Felicia Hardy debuted in 1979. Tamara Blake, her "oldest friend" and female lover, first appeared in 1984, only 5 years later, debuting in the Peter Parker, The Spectacular Spider-Man Annual "Cat and Mouse."

Dropping by for a night of "harmless frolic," Tamara robs Felicia, aiming to play a game of cat-and-mouse with her friend. While their relationship is not explicitly romantic in this story, Tamara is portrayed as very close to her ex-partner-in-crime and very familiar with her relationship habits. She is surprised by the reveal that Black Cat is trying to settle down with Spider-Man - and to be skeptical about if Felicia will be able to tie herself down to one man... almost as if she knows Felicia has a pattern of behaviour when it comes to monogamy.

I don't know if this story was intentionally gay or not, but it would be used as a foundation for later queer storytelling about Felicia, so it seems worth mentioning it here!

What is pretty explicit, however, is Felicia's relationship with her partner Diana in the 2002 Spider-Girl series. They are just called partners, not lovers, but the framing and discussion of it is obvious enough that, in my opinion, if you know that gay people exist and can accept the possibility of them being gay, then you probably will read this and go "Oh, yeah, they are gay."

This story does not take place in Earth-616 and is primarily focused on Mayday Parker as Spider-Girl and Felicity Hardy as Scarlet Spider, but Felicity does have two moms - and we love that for her!

Jumping ahead a bit, Tamara returned via flashback in Black Cat #10, released in 2020, and this fleshed out their backstory together. It revealed how they trained together under Black Fox as their mentor and clearly shows them using slight-of-hand to hold hands and canoodle without Fox noticing what they're up to.

This is just a super-cute panel to me. That's such a clever use of slight-of-hand; I love it so much...

The next year, in Black Cat Vol 2 #3, there's a vision of Black Cat surrounded by a harem of her lovers, which includes Tamara and Odessa alongside several of her more famous male affairs.

Shortly thereafter, she kissed Odessa on the lips, as discussed earlier. In case the earlier evidence was not enough for you, Felicia Hardy is now formally unquestionably a girl-kisser. We even later get to see her and Drake's one-night-stand via flashback, in case there was any lingering doubts about what happened.

However, it also doesn't end there. It's not like Felicia just kissed a women, Marvel patted themselves on the back, and now she's been back to dating Peter Parker exclusively. There are plenty of comic characters who have had one defining "queer moment" and mum's been the word on their queerness since then... Felicia, meanwhile, is very loudly bisexual.

Immediately, she got a Pride variant cover in 2021 and has been on at least one cover every year since. My favourite is probably this one from 2022, which is both very poly and also features Peter Parker... I'm sure if you'd ask Marvel corporate they'd say he is just there as an ally, but it's still funny to me.

In 2021, she was the character used for the grand return of Jessie Drake (Felicia really has a thing for women with last names that end with -ake, apparently). Jessie was Marvel's first explicitly transgender character, debuting all the way back in 1992. After getting off to a rocky start, Felicia blows up a building with Jessie's help and they go out for dinner.

(This story was not followed up on as the book it was supposed to lead into got cancelled. Drake has not so much as cameoed since. F in the chat for Jessie Drake).

In 2022, there was an 5-issue mini-series all about Tony Stark and Felicia bonding over their mutual problem of supervillain ex-girlfriends trying to murder them. Of the two halves of the pair, Felicia gets the better deal - Tamara not only teams up with Felicia and Tony to fight Tony's ex, but they do so much flirting that Tony forgets that are not currently dating.

And, finally, in 2023, there was another Felicia story in a Pride issue wherein she hooked up with a pseudo-diety and also worked with Gambit to fuck with some transphobes in the process. Good for them!

This is not by any means a definitive list of everything gay Felicia has done - she famously flirts with MJ and Cindy a lot, for instance - but I hope it provides some larger context to Felicia's sexuality in the game.

Moreover, I hope it shows that queer storytelling isn't always about writing a single gay kiss that generates headlines. A lot of Marvel and DC queer storytelling that goes viral isn't the actual multi-issue multi-comic-run queer stuff; it's the one big kiss or something subtextual that happens to feature MCU heroes with better SEO then people like Felicia have... and I think it's the more under-the-radar stuff that's often more valuable.

#felicia hardy #black cat #spider-man 2 #tamara blake #odessa drake #jessie drake

[beeclops]

Happy 13th birthday, Casey!

#disney channel #marvel #moon girl and devil dinosaur #mgadd spoilers #lunella lafayette #casey maria eva duarte goldberg calderon #jewish #judaism #bat mitzvah #lgbtq #gay #2 dads #odessa drake #sam wilson #falcon #captain america

[roguearchives]

Rogue and Gambit in Marvel's Voices: X-Men (2023) #1 - "The Stolen Night", written by Raphael Draccon/Carolina Munhóz and illustrated by Jethro Morales.

Source: Marvel's Voices: X-Men (2023) #1, by Raphael Draccon/Carolina Munhóz and Jethro Morales.

#Marvel #X-Men #Rogue #Gambit #Odessa Drake #Manacle #Comics

[heckcareoxytwit]

Gambit and Rogue's excellent adventure

Marvel's Voices: X-Men #1, 2023

#Gambit #Remy LeBeau #Rogue #Anna Marie #anna marie lebeau #X Men #XMen #Odessa Drake #Thieves Guild #marvel's voices: x men #marvel's voices #marvel

[goverment-mandated-femslash]

Today's government mandated femslash couple of the day is

Odessa Drake and Felicia Hardy!

#femslash #Odessa Drake #Felicia Hardy #Black Cat #femslash couple of the day

[soniccrash378]

Crackships (Pt. 4)

.Bowsessa- Bowser X Odessa Drake (Moon Girl & Devil Dinosaur)

.Pelsa- Peach X Elsa

#moon girl and devil dinosaur #odessa drake #mario movie #bowser #princess peach #frozen #elsa #Non/Disney #crackship

[docgold13]

#Black Cat #Odessa Drake

[papermoonknight]

Black Cat (2020) Issue 7

#felicia hardy #black cat #odessa drake #black cat (2020) #marvel #marvel comics

[blackqueercharacters]

Odessa Drake

Black Cat Vol 1 (2019).

#odessa drake #black cat #lgbt #black lgbt #lgbt comics #black lgbt characters #lgbt characters #lavandnoir #black queer characters #queer characters #odessa x felicia #marvel comics #comic characters

[thebibliomancer]

So they did get together. I was getting that energy from the way Odessa kept trying to kill Felicia.

#black cat #odessa drake #black cat infinity heist

[felinoir-a]

just quietly thinkin about how fe, a proverbial card carrying and literal branded member of the thieves guild, sends her tithes to new orleans rather than give it to the new york chapter, even after her detente with odessa. remy lebeau at least has a canonically very healthy and respectful acquaintanceship with felicia and leaves her to her own devices (rather than attempt great bodily harm). it is a (minor) source of tension in inter-guild politics, even as felicia does her best to stay out of it.

she's technically not in breach of rules, as the guild is getting a cut of her profits, but it is a blatant snub of the new york guild to have the most talented and prolific thief who resides on the island of manhattan not paying tithe to the local chapter. being in good standing with the national home chapter/headquarters gives her protection on paper as a thief in good standing but ... Odessa Drake and her immediate circle are not happy.

but the headquarters isn't gonna get involved in petty squabbles in individual territories. at least, not until it attracts too much attention and affects business.

#what i would not GIVE for an odessa drake and a remy lebeau #˗ˏˋ meta . ››› 𝙲𝙰𝚃 𝙶𝙸𝚁𝙻𝚂 𝙰𝚁𝙴 𝚁𝚄𝙸𝙽𝙸𝙽𝙶 𝙼𝚈 𝙻𝙸𝙵𝙴 .

[timdrakequotes]

Robin: What do we do now?

Batman: You’re still worried about the strong-arm attack on Ariana’s father’s place? I don’t think they’ll be back--at least, not tonight--but I’m sure that won’t satisfy you. While I see what else I can dig up in Little Odessa--why don’t you go keep an eye on your friend?

--Tim Drake with Bruce Wayne (Shadow of the Bat #35 – Troika Part Two)

#Robin #Tim Drake #Red Robin #Batman #Bruce Wayne #timdrakequotes

[mid-nightowl]

💖 & 🧠 for the fic writer ask game please? <3

hi hello!!! thank you for the ask!!! :) <3

💖 ahhhhh, tough question! i would say my fight scenes or writing action, whatever word you use to describe that type of writing lol. i once got told my fights were pretty realistic and fun to read, and i ran with it (absolutely inflated my ego ngl), i kind of pride myself on them though it also means they have to be perfect

🧠 oh man, i have a few that are just outlines but most usually have a few drabbles or scenes associated with them that i tinker with when bored. BUT i do have a spider-cat jaydick au that is only worldbuilding notes at this point (and im not actively working on), so please enjoy my notes on that :)

(stuffing it under a keep reading thingy bc its a lot, sorry!)

Spider-Cat Jaydick AU

Working Summary: After the death/retirement of Spider-Woman Barbara Gordon, Gotham hits a dark patch. But unfortunately or fortunately, another radioactive spider bites Jaye Todd-Wayne on a school field trip to Fox Corp/Wayne Tech. Knowing Crime Alley, Jaye’s home (despite being adopted by billionaire Bruce Wayne), is in trouble without a Spider guardian, Jaye decides to take it upon herself to be the next Spider. 

It’s not without its…problems.

Barbara as Spider-Woman Main Cast

Barbara Gordon = Spider-Gwen/Spider-Woman aka Gwen Stacy (Earth-65)

Commissioner Jim Gordon = NYPD Chief George Stacy

Harvey Bullock = Captain Frank Castle

Renee Montoya = Detective Jean DeWolff

Dinah Drake Lance = Mary Jane Watson (of the Mary Janes Band)

Alysia Yeoh = Betty Brant (of the Mary Janes Band)

Kori Anders = Glory Grant (of the Mary Janes Band)

Ted Kord = Peter Parker (aka Lizard, Earth-65)

Luke Fox = Harry Osborn (close friend to Gwen & Peter, Earth-65)

Lucius Fox = Norman Osborn

Jaye Todd-Wayne as Spider-Woman II or Ghost Spider Main Cast

Jaye Todd-Wayne = Spider-Woman II or Ghost Spider (aka Miles Morales)

Talia al Ghul and Bruce Wayne = Rio and Jefferson (Davis) Morales

Damian al Ghul = Billie Morales (younger sibling to Miles)

Willis Todd = Prowler aka Aaron Davis (uncle to Miles)

Tim Drake = Ganke Lee

Stephanie Brown = Starling aka Tiana Toomes

Arthur Brown = Vulture aka Adrian Toomes

Dick Grayson = Black Cat aka Felicia Hardy

Selina Kyle = Black Fox (mentor to Felicia and Tamara)

Victor Stone = Boris Korpse

Donna Troy = Bruno Grainger

Roy Harper = Tamara Blake

Raven = Odessa Drake

Main Villains

Joker & Harley Quinn = Carnage and Venom

Cluemaster (Arthur Brown) = Vulture

Two-Face (Harvey Dent) = Green Goblin or Two-Faced Goblin

The Penguin (Oswald Cobblepot) = Kingpin

Poison Ivy (Pamela Isley) = Doc Ock

Selina Kyle = Black Fox

Bane = Rhino

Black Mask (Roman Sionis) = Mister Negative

Mr. Freeze (Victor Fries) = Electro or Scorpion

Clayface = Hydro-Man or Swarm

Scarecrow = Sandwoman (whose sand causes nightmares from Earth 2099)

Firefly = Shocker

Mad Hatter = Mysterio

Ted Kord = Lizard I (deceased)

Killer Croc = Lizard II

Deathstroke (Slade Wilson) = Kraven the Hunter

Grant Wilson = Grim Hunter (Kraven’s first son and Kraven the Hunter II)

Rose Wilson* = Ana Kravinoff (Kraven’s daughter)

Carmine Falcone/Falcone Crime Family = Hammerhead

Maroni Crime Family = Tombstone

Moxon’s Empire/Lew Moxon = Silvermane

*Originally had Rose Wilson as Deadpool but I think she would work better as Kraven's daughter

Other Cast: (could potential appear or be saved for later)

Jessica Drew (Spider-Woman) = Kate Kane

Cindy Moon (Silk) = Cassandra Cain

Matt Murdock (Daredevil) = Helena Bertinelli*

Madame Web (Cassandra Webb) = Ma Gunn

The Tinkerer (based on the game Spider Man) = Lonnie Machlin or Dana Harlowe

*Helena could either be Daredevil or Glory Brant (of the Mary Janes Band), whether you want to have her as a vigilante or just a civilian

Additional Notes:

Barbara’s main villains were Doc Ock, Vulture, Lizard, Shocker, and Mysterio. The only villains present during her tenure were: Doc Ock, Vulture, Lizard I, Mysterio, Sandwoman, Kingpin, Black Cat, Silvermane, Tombstone, Hammerhead, Electro, Swarm, Prowler, and Shocker. 

>>Barbara knew Kraven the Hunter was active and a villain via Dick, but never fought him personally. 

>>Barbara mainly fought her big three: Doc Ock, Shocker, and Lizard. She also handled a lot of mafia/gang related crimes, in conjunction with her father’s work. 

>>Barbara’s toughest battles were with Lizard I (mainly emotional) and Doc Ock.

Jaye’s main villains are Green Goblin/Two Faced Goblin, Kingpin, Mister Negative, Venom & Carnage. The villains present during her tenure are: Doc Ock, Vulture, Lizard II, Mysterio, Sandwoman, Black Cat, Kingpin, Shocker, Electro, Rhino, Venom & Carnage, Kraven the Hunter, Grim Hunter & Ana Kravinoff, Prowler, Swarm, Mister Negative, Hammerhead, Tombstone, and Silvermane. 

>>Jaye mainly fights her big four: Two-Faced Goblin, Kingpin, Mister Negative, and Venom & Carnage. Jaye also handles a lot of gang related activity but for different reasons than Barbara--whereas Barbara acted very much like a police detective, Jaye was trying to protect Crime Alley (aka Barbara worked with the police and Jaye does not). 

>>Black Cat, Doc Ock, Lizard II, and Ana Kravinoff are technically “villains” but Jaye has good working relationships with them. 

>>Jaye’s toughest battles are Venom & Carnage and Two-Faced Goblin (mainly emotional).

>>Jaye was adopted around 12-13, and grew up with Bruce and Talia (and later on, baby Damian), but also Uncle Harvey, Bruce’s best friend. Harvey, unfortunately, will be attacked and scarred by Tombstone (Maroni) and become the Two-Faced Goblin. 

>>Unclear if Jaye knows Willis is Prowler. 

>>Madame Web and Starling are newest additions to the hero community in Jaye’s time, and did not meet Barbara. Starling (Steph) knew of her because of her father and Madame knew her through her clairvoyance, but neither of them had ever met her face to face or interacted with one another.

And the lil drabble that started it all:

Out of all the leftover characters and remnants from Barbara’s time as Spidey, Black Cat is the only one she doesn’t mind.  Granted, he’s still a pain in the ass.  But, he also doesn’t try to kill her. Maim? Maybe, if she gets on his bad side. Use as a cat scratcher? More times than she can count, for no reason beyond “he was bored.”  He’s never gone for the jugular though and that she can appreciate.   And even she can admit, Barbara had good taste in men.

#ask game #ladytauria #fanfic ask game #thank you so much for the ask!!! <3 <3 #i went through like four different versions of teams and characters for this au before settling on this version #the og very first version had peter parker as barbara and mj as kori and green goblin as luke and lucius fox #there was another version where tim was harry osborn and green goblin jr; jaye was peter and barbara was spider-woman jessica drew #so many possibilities #and dont get me started on the teams #the champions were the closest to be settled with nova = kyle rayner; viv vision = miss martian; young cyclops = kon #i refuse to do the avengers team thou #that's too much work #i still think rose as deadpool would be hilariously perfect but who knows #artemis and bizzaro are going to be in this too just not quite sure as heroes or civilians yet #thank you for giving me the opportunity to ramble about this au #i put way too much thought into it for having zero scenes of actual writing lmaooo

[ktsghost]

Nightwing version of that black cat pride cover

[id: The right image is a Marvel: Voices comic cover. It shows Felicia Hardy lying in the center of the screen, with Peter Parker and Odessa Drake lying on either side. Felicia’s left hand is next to Odessa’s face and her right is on top of Peter’s. The left image is a redraw of that cover with Dick Grayson lying in the center of the screen, with Kory and Wally on either side.]

#dc #dick grayson #koriand'r #Wally west #nightwing #starfire #the flash (wally west) #dickkory #bird flash #my art

[jerseyluck]

Batman (1929) #515/Troika Part 1 Readthrough

Alright to get into the Halloween spirit, might as well start off the next classic DC readthrough I am going to after I finish Suicide Squad: Kelley Jones/Doug Moench run on Batman. And annoyingly the run starts at Batman #515 which is the start of a 4-Part crossover. This is Batman: Troika.

            The first thing that has to be established is that this is the status quo of the book. This is the “first” story to feature Bruce Wayne being in the cowl since he left Dick Grayson to take over so he could go on vacation. And the reason why Bats needed a vacation, is that he just went through Knightfall: the story where Bane breaks Bruce’s back, so Azreal takes over as Batman and goes a little mad (even breaking the no-kill rule). So, this story is meant to settle the status quo back to the usual one.

            We open the book on Batman’s biggest foe from the 80’s: former Soviet operatives/assassins. We got KGBeast, we got the Night Rider, we got random bald lady with a red star on her head, and we got former Soviet colonels. When the Soviet Union fell, they decided to unite and form a Russian Mafia, Troika, to take control of Gotham’s underworld.

            Anyway, the group falls in conflict over ideology. Dark Rider (who in his last story got radiation poisoning from a failed scheme to poison Gotham) is angry at his fellow comrades for falling to America’s capitalist excesses. Rider just wants to leave a mark by using a nuclear device the mob has obtained.

            Meanwhile in The Batcave, Batman shows Robin (Tim Drake) and Nightwing his new crimefighting outfit. And you better believe it has the classic Kelley Jones’s Bat horns. Yet Bruce is sad because Alfred is currently on vacation/break.

            But it is no time for rest because Batman gets an alert about nuclear trouble and connects it to recent activity in Little Russia section of Gotham. And to make it personal, the Troika threats Wayne Industries, killing two members of the security team.

            The next scene is the first scene with Bruce and Gordon together since the events of Knightfall. It is fun to see casual in his underwear Jim Gordon, and we get a moment of understanding between the two pals. But the main thing is that Gordon confirms that there is likely a nuclear device in Gotham and puts Bats on the hunt for the Dark Rider.

            Back to the bad guys, we see that the Troika has decided that it is best that KGBeast takes the place of leader of the mob and Dark Rider should be killed. But we get a sickly Dark Rider confirming that he has hidden the bomb elsewhere.

            The story then cuts back to a guy in Little Odessa about to bomb the store that Tim’s girlfriend, Ariana Dzerchenko, lives at. The dynamic duo stops him, but the bomber runs through the window of Ariana. The girl is scared that a random chase is happening at where she lives, but the most human moment is Tim lamenting that he can comfort his girlfriend without blowing his secret identity.

            In more action-packed beats, Troika goons fail to ambush the Dark Rider, so the villain is off to get revenge. He prepares to shoot one of his fellow gangsters, but Batman is not the type of guy who will just assassinations happen.

            So, we get a beautifully drawn fight between Batman and the sickly Dark Rider. Rider gets some punches in but falls because of his radiation sickness. However, Batman is distraught that in his efforts to stop violence, he saved one of attackers on his girlfriend, Colonel Vega.

            This is part 1 of a 4-part crossover that goes through several of the Bat books at the time. (Yes, I will cover the rest of it.) And it really gets the reader interested in the returning status quo. Moench tries to give the reader information on the Russia mob and most of it gets through. The threat of a nuclear explosion in Gotham City makes for a compelling story for Bruce to return to.

            And now for the main reason why I chose this book: Kelley Jones manages to draw some horror themed images throughout the book. We really get to see the horror of man dying the radiation poisoning through all the scabs on his body. A+ work! And very few people can draw Batman looking huge because of the cape flows. I am excited to see where Jones goes (especially when he gets to play in more supernatural side of the DC Universe).

            6/10

#batman #nightwing #dick grayson #robin #tim drake #kgbeast #jim gordon #dc comics #kelley jones #doug moench #read through

[starblazeit]

updated bat fancasts :3

jon bernthal— bruce wayne

eva mendes— selina kyle

jesus castro— dick grayson

diego barrueco— jason todd

won kunhang— tim drake

kedar williams-stirling— duke thomas

carter rockwood— damian wayne

kiera allen— barbara gordon

lauren tsai— cassandra cain

odessa a’zion— stephanie brown

brianna hildebrand— harper row

deaken bluman— cullen row

NOTES

jon bernthal as Bruce has been like a secret pleasure of mine for forever and then I found out they’re both Jewish I was like yeah I’m just ahead of the game

most of the ppl are still the same as my old post but some pics have changed to ones I think fit the character more

damian fc is the actor that was gonna play him on wfa and he’s so adorable I couldn’t NOT include him

Barbara/ Kiera Allen would be a great oracle and I figured it’d be best to cast whoever would fit best as oracle and not batgirl since I’m also including the other members of the group , and she’s a wheelchair user!

Odessa and Stephanie is just right in my heart. Yeah.

Might do more characters later like the foxs 😊😊💪

#batfamily #fancast #dc #batman #dick grayson #jason todd #tim drake #duke thomas #selina kyle #damian wayne #barbara gordon #cassandra cain #stephanie brown #harper row #cullen row