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tadpole-art · 7 months
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🍁🍂 Iduna 🍂🍁
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jessi-skylark · 2 months
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Frozen concept art - Elsa x Honeymaren having a Natura tea party
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arendelle-archives · 3 months
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The flora and fauna of Frozen!
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Written by: Virtual Winter January 15th, 2024 First edition
For our first new-ish entry to the Archive, allow me to introduce you to the flora and fauna of Frozen. Most fans probably recognise Sven the reindeer and the wolves from the first movie and the sunflowers in Frozen fever but did you know there are over 70 unique species of animals and plants featured, mentioned or referenced throughout the franchise?
In late 2022, I made a very short-lived series on Reddit covering two types of plants and one type of animal found in the Frozen movies. I felt it was time to expand the list a little…
I hope this will be the most comprehensive list of flora and fauna found in Arendelle and beyond ever made and I hope it will be of use to someone! I’m sure there are plenty of artists and writers out there who want to enrich their own Frozen world and hopefully this list can help!
I have arranged the list following a similar structure to my previous project The Frozenverse, starting off covering the movies and novels and then gradually moving into different story-material.
Now, lets explore!
Read the full list → HERE ←
EDIT: You can find the previous three installments HERE!
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meltthefrozenheart · 5 months
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FROZEN 3 and FROZEN 4 are both in development, and I can't wait!
The news sounded odd to me initially, I didn't expect anything like this from Disney Animation, but it became immediatly appealing the moment I realized the GREAT potential a double feature could have for the franchise, most importantly when Bob Iger specified “Jenn Lee, who created Frozen, the original Frozen, and Frozen 2 is hard at work with her team at Disney Animation on not one but actually two stories.”, which would mean:
More time to enstablish new elements, new characters, time to explore new lore and new places without the risk to rush everything;
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A bigger story that can help flesh out our protagonists in their new roles, their new wants and changes they might face, considering how the F2 ending brought many new possibilities;
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A narrative context where the new crysis (whatever it might be) could be explored even better, also allowing to maintain things in a complex prespective just as the Frozen movies like to do, where the matter of "good and evil" not at the center, and things are first of all deeply personal for the characters
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It seems to me that Jennifer Lee always wanted to delve deeper into things, this is why the Broadway Musical was a perfect opportunity for her and the Lopez to expand the characters and flesh out things in the story, also adding new elements that would've been useful for F2.
And when they worked on Frozen 2, they built it as the "second part" of the story, reconnecting almost all the aspects of the sequel to the 1st movie, and the story was clearly meant to be BIGGER and longer compared to what we ended up having because of numerous issues and rewrites. J. Lee and C. Buck didn't want to introduce something that would feel just as "a new adventure", and more about the actual characters evolving, see what they left unresolved, breaking the "Happy ending" scenario of F1, which also led them to NOT give the new human characters (Mattias and the Northuldra) the same relevance given to Spirits of Nature, in order to remain focused on Elsa, Anna and the rest of the gang.
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Now, Lee will most likely not direct or write these two new movies, but she is still directly involved, because it's both part of her job as CCO of Walt Disney Animation Studio and because Frozen is her (and Chris Buck) baby. It will be curious to discover with what idea Marc Smith came out with, but the fact he worked on the 1st Frozen as a storyboard artist and the became Director of Story for Frozen 2 says a lot about him and why Lee trusts him so much, and I'm sure they will follow the approach used with the 2nd movie and carry it on with 3 and 4. Numerous sagas used the two-parter approach, like the books adaptations of Harry Potter, Twilight and Hunger Games series, or more "original cases" like Pirates of the Carribeans or what we are getting now with the animated Spiderverse movies (Across and Beyond). But I think the best similarity (and probably what led to this ambitious choice) is with Avengers Infinity War/Endgame, where the BIG FINALE gets developed in two movies.
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ericmicael · 5 months
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One disappointment I really don't want to have with "Frozen 3" and "Frozen 4": so long after "Frozen 2" the Northuldras are ignored again.
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To this day, the only one they are developing remains a mobile game, "Disney Magic Kingdoms". Even the "Frozen Podcast", which has a large part of its plot taking place in the Enchanted Forest, ignores them and only remembers the tribe in a mention by Kristoff. And in the anthology the story related to them is something from the past that only serves to give Agduna more justification.
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Honeymaren and Ryder have so much potential, their connections with Elsa and Kristoff, and I'm not talking about romance although if we consider the mobile game, it's canon to say that the woman is in love with the Snow Queen and her brother supports the shipp after realizing that Elsa wasn't interest in him. And Yelana, although she is by far the least prominent character of the trio, she met Iduna, are they going to continue ignoring that?
If the franchise really needs support from the Sámi tribe to make content with the Northuldra tribe, I hope Disney will be kind to them.
I want "Frozen 3" and "Frozen 4" to explore new characters and new themes, but it doesn't need to ignore its past (it could even bring the idiot prince back to be beaten by someone else, I don't care) and especially the past that It hasn't even been addressed yet.
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ashleytheartist · 1 year
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if Anna and Elsa grew up in the enchanted forest
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saanea · 1 month
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true--north · 5 months
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Elsa, accepted and cherished
In contrast to the Arendelle, the Northuldra tribe embraces and treasures Elsa's magic. It delights them because Elsa is gifted by Ahtohallan, the Spirits obey her and Nature herself speaks through her; as Yelana said, they trust only Nature. Elsa is the Fifth Spirit promised to them in the old prophecies, she is one of the central figures of their beliefs. Literally the biggest Gift, not the Curse. So Elsa, feeling a spiritual family and destiny in these people easily shares her magic with them; she acts so freely around the people of her Mother. She is willing to serve and protect them and befriend them. It's a shame that these moments were cutted.
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elijones94 · 4 months
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Bruni is cute!! ❄️❄️
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princess-ibri · 1 year
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What do you think happened to the Magic Mirror after the queen's death?
Ooookay! So buckle up cuz in my DisneyVerse the Mirror actually has quite an interesting and detailed backstory, and you just unlocked it xD
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So first, the the spirit within it is actually the demon son of Chernabog and the sorceress Vor, the man called Voland, who long time followers will remember is the Old Soldier, the villain of my Frozen 3 plot.
He was trapped in the Mirror ages ago by an enchantor, the first Storykeeper of Enchancia, who for years kept the Mirror under his own careful watch in the Secret Library. Eventually however the Mirror was stolen by dark forces who managed to breach the library, and fell into the hands of many dark magic users across the years, either by bequeathment, theft or murder, eventually becoming the property of Queen Grimhilde.
After the Queen's death, the Mirror was kept locked away for a time in Snow White's palace, until she and the prince were able to make contact with people who promised to take it to a place to be locked away forever, Spire out on a distant mountain where many powerful and dangerous magical artifacts are kept under watch.
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Unfortunately, on route to the Spire, the caravan gaurding the Mirror is attacked by the witches of the Seven Mountains, the coven to which Grimhilde had once belonged, lead by the self styled Witch Empress Mammona, who for years kept it and learned from its secrets, eventually discovering its full dark lineage.
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The Mirror instructs them to take it to the Enchanted Forest of the Northuldra, a place of great primordial magic, where they will be able to break him free of the Mirror using the latent magic of the place.
Luckily the Spirits that gaurd this particular Enchanted Forest are very against a great evil being unleashed into it, and alert the Fifth Spirit, great mage called Oaván (a native of the Northuldra who is linked most to Earth, and able to transform into animals) and together with the Northuldra move to attack the Witches before they can finish their dread deed.
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A fierce battle commences between the Spirits/Northuldra and the Witches, both of whom call on allies to help in the battle. But eventually, though not without Oaván receiving a mortal wound, the forces of Good are able to route the Witches and halt the ceremony.
Only part of Voland was able to be pulled from the mirror, an undying yet mostly mortal man, left with but a fraction of his power, the rest remains locked behind the glass of the Mirror. Voland the man manages to escape with the last few witches, but the Mirror is left behind.
With the last ounces of his strength, Oaván takes the Mirror to Atohallan, a place none came come to save the spirits, and locks it away in a tomb of ice, succumbing at last to his wounds.
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And there there Mirror stayed for long years, kept safely locked away from the world. Until a new Fifth Spirit was chosen, Elsa of Arendelle, who with her companions was once more was forced to do battle with Voland, who had been able to recover ancient artifacts that allowed him to bind the Spirits, using their power to assult Atohallan in search of his Mirror and the rest of his powers.
He would be defeated once more by the forces of Good, and the mirror shattered, effectively destorying Voland for all time, though slight bits of his malevolent influence would manage to tumble back into the world through shards of the mirror that were thrown into the air in the final battle. Not enough to cause great evil but enough to do harm to those unlucky enough to come into contact with them...
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(Yes I do have plans for an actual Snow Queen adaptaion tied into Frozen but that'll be a bit yet I still got Godmother Backstories to do x)
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greatqueenanna · 7 months
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Talking about Ryder and his Importance
As said in my Honeymaren analysis, one of the most important lore and world-building aspects in Frozen 2 was the introduction of the Northuldra – a group of people to which Iduna originally belonged that is loosely inspired by the Sámi of Scandinavia.  They are a racially diverse group in F2 that live within the Enchanted Forest and have a close relationship with the Magical Spirits and Ahtohallan.
Unfortunately, the Northuldra do not get a lot of screen-time in the film, however, the prominent Northuldran characters still managed to stand out and be recognizable even with their small roles - one of these major characters being Ryder Nattura.
Ryder is Honeymaren's younger brother, and much like Honey, has a small, but prominent role within the film. He is described as a playful dreamer, always cracking a joke here and there while dreaming about exploring the world outside of the Enchanted Forest. He plays a larger role in Kristoff's story, the two becoming fast friends due to their shared love of reindeer, and helps him gain the confidence to ask Anna to marry him.
In Tribute
I felt it wouldn't be appropriate to talk about Ryder without mentioning the person he was based on. Chris Buck, the Director of Frozen, Frozen Fever, and Frozen 2, went through a terrible tragedy when he lost his son. The song The Next Right Thing is famous for being a song that represents the grief he and his wife went through. The overall themes of F2 were also inspired by this tragedy.
Jennifer Lee also wanted to give another tribute to Ryder Buck, so Ryder Nattura was named. He was also based off of Ryder's hopeful personality.
“We’ve given him more to do because he’s a very light spirit, he’s a very positive character. He’s actually really fun, really, like I said, kind of hopeful.” - Chris Buck
You can find out more about Ryder Buck's story here.
The Wingman
Ryder plays a fairly big role in Kristoff's story - some may say that all he did was suggest a proposal, but I would say he did a little bit more than that, and actually helped Kristoff in finding his own confidence.
Firstly, he helped Kristoff feel more comfortable with his relationship with Reindeer. It's a very small detail, but it's worth mentioning. Everyone in the series, other than Anna, was very critical of Kristoff's relationship with Sven. The citizens of Arendelle always assume the worst, like in F2 when they question Kristoff and Sven acting out his proposal. Even the Trolls call him out on it.
"Like his peculiar brain dear, his thing with the reindeer, that's a little outside of nature's laws!"
However, when Ryder suddenly comes along and starts making his own Reindeer talk, Kristoff is shocked and happy.
Kirstoff: Wait, you talk for them too?! Ryder: I do. Kristoff: It's like you can actually hear what they're thinking? Ryder: Yeah and you.. you just say it! Kristoff: And then you just say it.
It's such a goofy interaction, and obviously meant to be funny, but it also feels so heartwarming at the same time. Kristoff finally found a friend who gets his peculiar interests. You can honestly hear the relief and happiness in his voice when he says "And then you just say it."
I think this interaction actually helped Kristoff slowly start to become more confident, along with the actual proposal attempt.
The proposal is over the top and full of emotion, in which Kristoff says everything on his mind about Anna even before his final proposal. The two proposals are very similar -
"Princess Anna of Arendelle. My feisty, fearless, ginger-sweet love. Will you marry me?"
"Anna, you are the most extraordinary person I've ever known. I love you with all I am, will you marry me?"
Obviously, the second one is more emotional and, however, you can see that Kristoff was just as confident and loving in the previous attempt - showing how Ryder was able to help Kristoff be more open and honest about his feelings by introducing the Northuldran ceremony.
His overall support of Kristoff, without even knowing him that well, also shows his kindness and willingness to help others, even when he is unsure.
Kristoff: I can't seem to get her attention. Or even say the thing. Ryder: Well, you're in luck, I know nothing about women. But I do know that we have the most amazing way of proposing, If we start now, we'll be ready at dawn.
Ryder was an important aspect of Kristoff's development, and Kristoff would've probably still struggled with his feelings if not for Ryder trying to help. While it did lead to a misunderstanding when the two left to prepare for the proposal, this situation was necessary so that Kristoff could better understand his emotions and become a better partner to Anna.
The Dreamer
While a lot of Ryder's personal development isn't explored, we do get a small glimpse of his dreams - and we get to see them fulfilled.
One of the first things Ryder says is -
"Ryder: Free the forest… Wow… I'm sorry, It's just… ah, Some of us were born in here, we've never even seen the clear sky."
Here, we see how Ryder is hopeful to see the sky. As described by him here and within the Frozen 2 guide, Ryder was born in the Enchanted Forest after the Battle of the Dam, thus he never saw what life outside the forest was like. It also describes how he longs to explore the world.
When he finally gets to see the sky, it is wonderful for him to finally get his wish. You can really feel the happiness and excitement in his words.
Ryder: Look at the sky. I just didn't realize there was so much of it.
Future Potential
Ryder has a huge amount of potential as a character. His kind and supportive nature, as well as his big dreams of exploring the world, give us so many possibilities and situations to explore with this character.
As with all the Northuldran characters, Ryder, like his sister, deserves his time to shine and be explored in more depth. I can only hope that the writers also feel this way, and will give Ryder his time to shine, especially now that the whole world is at his fingertips.
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tadpole-art · 7 months
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I am both excited and terrified for Frozen 3,,,despite all of its flaws I really love Frozen 2 but I'm sad about all of the production problems it had and hope that Frozen 3 is given the time to deserves to fully flesh out its story ;-;
I really hope it expands more on the Northuldra, especially since it was revealed in a book that Iduna wasnt originally from that tribe. Theres just so much untapped potential regarding the Northuldra and spirits and Anna and Elsa's connection to it, I'm excited to see where it goes :)
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jessi-skylark · 22 days
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Why does Honeymaren know so about the 5th Spirit?
she’s been vigorously studying the Spirits her whole life. Becoming an expert and recording everything thing for the moment…one day…when the 5th would show herself…
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mythicalbwast · 5 months
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So, we know that there's going to be a Frozen 3 and 4. I hope that they acknowledge in the future films that Elsa and Anna are both the fifth spirit because they're the bridge, it has two sides. But I'm really wondering what it'll be about. Will they take ideas from the novels, finally show Anna and Kristoff being married -- will he finally get a backstop and not be a side character like Olaf and Sven?
It's called Frozen for a reason. And all that really ha was Kristoff went missing. So, it's very easy to have him look for his parents or them look for him.
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Now, I'm a personal fan of Yelena, Honeymaren and Ryder being related to Anna and Elsa. Iduna is seen as a lost member of the family and so most people don't remember her. Hence saying the shall is of the tribe and not specifically their mother. And I would just like them to not be forgotten again. I want to see the conflict, the harmony and how the Northuldrans don't trust trust Arendelle people.
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Elsa and Anna are Nordic, they're in the 1800s, please for everything holy dive down deep into their mythologies. There's so much to be added into the movies to keep the plot alive.
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And for now, I hope Elsa stay single. Or if she does get a partner they are a magic user and her. Someone who's opposite of her upbringing. So she can see she was never a danger and it's the fear out into her head that made her lose confidence. Because we all know the incident is Anna's fault. But because it was done by Elsa, she was different and King Papi scared her she grew anxious and distant. So, if she did get a partner it'd be nice to her to see in another life she wouldn't have had to live so sheltered if her father trusted her. I would say a Jack Frost version or genderbent because it would hit different if they had ice powers too. Someone so happy and filled with life, who brings joy has the same magic as her.
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So, yeah. Plus, either way, I need them to expand Elsa's powers. Like she controls ice and snow and she was born with these powers. I know she can become more powerful than she is. Literally need her to become a tank. Okay, bye.
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meltthefrozenheart · 4 months
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Frozen 3 & Frozen 4 core conflict might be something really cool
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The first movie dealt with Elsa not being able to control her growing powers out of fear, most importantly after she struck Anna, which lead to their separation and isolation.
The second movie dealt instead with the past conflict between Arendelle and Northuldra, which enraged the Spirits and endargers the kingdom in the present, with Elsa having the responsability to solve the situation, followed by Anna who's afraid at the idea of losing everything she got in the 1st movie.
In both cases, it's a deeply personal situation, and in both cases it mantains the sisters and their relationship at the center.
And, most importantly, it's something that translates itself into a far more complex situation, where there isn't a matter of "Good Vs Evil" and Fear is the true villain of the story.
With a single story split into two movies, there could be the possibility to flesh out things even better than before, maybe facing the prespective of a war, or a cataclysm of some sort.
Surely it will be tricky to see where to lead the characters exactly, of course looking beyond what we know for sure by the F2 ending, between Elsa having found a purpose for her powers and looking after the Enchanted Forest, and Anna, now Queen of Arendelle, being finally engaged to Kristoff.
Considering they seem to be aiming at some sort of "final chapter" situation, and considering how personal things need to be for the protagonists, I would hope for some form of challenge by bringing back this treacherous piece of sh*t:
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ericmicael · 17 days
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10 CURIOSITIES ABOUT FROZEN 2
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1 - The Northuldra Tribe and the plot of the dam was inspired by real life
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In 1979 the Norwegian government decided to build a hydroelectric plant on the Alta River, but this would completely harm the salmon fishing and reindeer grazing that are the livelihood of the Sámi Tribe. They tried to oppose the construction, but were ignored and in the end the dam was built. But the protests they held were a major turning point for the tribe's relationship with the Norwegian government, which began to look more closely at the tribe even though it continues to commit various negligence towards it. In "Frozen 2" things were more drastic with King Runeard, Anna and Elsa's grandfather, creating the dam with the sole purpose of weakening the tribe and then managing to exterminate them because he considered them a risk to his throne due to their proximity with the spirits of nature and magic.
2 - Kristoff is technically a Northuldra before Anna and Elsa
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It is no coincidence that Kristoff got along so well with the Northuldras and that people started to theorize that he is part of them since Kristoff is a Sámi or at least he was in the script "Frozen 1". In the film's script he and all the ice harvesters are called Sámi, which as I said at the beginning is the Northuldra Tribe from F2. As far as I know there is no confirmation in the franchise that brings the sides together (ice harversters and Northuldra), but considering that the Sámi Tribe is known for being a combination of different types of tribe, even having more than one language wouldn't be too wrong, and actually not unheard of since Anna and Elsa's mother's original tribe is different from the one she is shown participating in in F2 since her original tribe and family were completely wiped out when Iduna was 5 years old.
3 - Bruni or Sally
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In the novelization of "Frozen 2" Olaf is in doubt about what name to give to the fire salamander, the options being Bruni and Sally. In the end he doesn't choose any of them and the book itself starts calling the salamander with the name Bruni. This is not the debut of the name Sally, in the Christmas short called "Olaf's Frozen Adventure" the stocking that Olaf hangs on the fireplace has the name Sally on it. And also about Bruni's name in the book "Dangerous Secret's: The Story of Iduna and Agnarr" which is a book that tells the past of Anna and Elsa's parents, Iduna calls the fire salamander with the name Bruni decades before Olaf choose this name for the Fire Spirit.
4 - Halima and Ryder have names inspired by real people
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Halima, who is Mattias' love interest, shares her name with her voice actress Halima Hudson, and Ryder, who is Honeymaren's brother, shares his name with Ryder Buck, who is the deceased son of director Chris Buck.
5 - Santino Fontana and the redemption of Hans
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Santino, who is the voice actor for the villain in "Frozen 1", even gave an interview saying that someone from Disney, who he obviously can't say who he is, told him that his character would return and I will have a redemption arc… Considering that the character since "Freezing Fever" has become the franchise's most recurring joke, appearing only to be humiliated as in the special "Once Upon a Studio" and in "Frozen 2" Elsa refers to him with the phrase "unreedemable monster" I have my doubts as to whether the person who said that to Santino really was someone from Disney or was playing a joke on him or was from a version of the script so early that perhaps the Northuldra Tribe didn't even exist yet.
6 - Lady Halverson and Woodsman
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Speaking of the initial script we have these two figures, the first apparently was Mattias' initial love interest who, instead of being Halima, was a soldier in his battalion and the second is the mysterious being who transforms into a reindeer. We don't have any information about the two characters other than the video that can be found by typing: "Frozen 2 (2019) _ Queen Iduna _ Deleted Scene _ Exclusive Clip (HD)" and some art, and nothing else. "Woodsman" is just a nickname.
7 - Some of the deleted scenes were discovered or not
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The production of "Frozen 2" was so chaotic that it generated a documentary where it is revealed that there were several moments deleted from the film, to this day there is not much about it, but we have some books like "The Enchanted Forest". "The Enchanted Forest" is an adaptation of the film, but it is not a very faithful adaptation so much so that there are several differences… Could it be that some of these differences are deleted scenes? There is the origin of the wagon that the group goes to the Enchanted Forest and even new lines between Elsa and Honeymaren, and this was one of the moments that is mentioned as being cut in the documentary. I'm not going to make a guarantee, but perhaps some of these books that portray "Frozen 2" in a slightly different way are actually earlier versions of the script before the cuts? Theories.
8 - Elsa's romantic life in "Frozen 2" and Kristen Bell
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Although the theories and campaigns to give Elsa a girlfriend we have nothing official in the second film about Elsa's sexual orientation with Jennifer Lee herself, director, saying that the Snow Queen had a lot on her mind and wasn't ready. But going back to the deleted scenes, there are theories that Elsa would initially have romantic moments with Honeymaren, but they were deleted (in "The Enchanted Forest" the moments between them are new and just new dialogues) but there are some conceptual arts left like these two where Elsa presents intimately magic for the other woman in two stages of the film's development. But there is still this art where she does the same to Ryder which makes Kristen Bell, Anna's voice actress, enter this story, in an interview given to "SiriusXM" again the topic was "Elsa's girlfriend" with Honeymaren being mentioned, but Kristen Bell will mention the theme and ends up saying at the end that Elsa is free to choose and even has more than one option in the Enchanted Forest with her mentioning Ryder. Out of curiosity, the brothers Honeymaren and Ryder have already competed for Elsa in the mobile game called "Disney Magic Kingdoms" where they both try to take the Snow Queen for a walk through the forest, but Honeymaen arrives first, frustrating Ryder who still has to put up with the game itself. mocking him since the name of the mission was "barking up the wrong tree". Later, a festival takes place in Arendelle in this mobile game where Honeymaren offers herself as a saleswoman, wanting to do this just to please Elsa, and Ryder, upon realizing her feelings for the Snow Queen, decides to help… from rival to cupid.
9 - Anna would ask Kristoff to marry her
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In one of the deleted songs Kristoff would talk about his feelings, but in the end it would be her who would ask him to marry her. The song is "Get This Right" and the entire scene, still in progress, can be found on YouTube.
10 - Elsa's death
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There is a rumor that in the film's original script Elsa would not thaw and would end the film frozen dead, giving a hint that she could return in the future. The main clue would be this concept art where Elsa appears unconscious, thawed with Nokk and if you paid attention to what I said, the main proof that the film would end with her frozen is an art of her thawed. There are still those who use the fact that she couldn't stop the wave as proof since the castle was originally going to be rebuilt, but I honestly don't believe it.
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