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Helena Bertinelli/Huntress Reading List/Completionist Guide
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Helena Bertinelli is the Huntress of Prime Earth. She has existed as a character since 1989, and has appeared in her own series as well as multiple other series throughout the years. Most well known for being a Bird of Prey, she has a long history that tends to be hard to track. Instead of hunting down all of the issues, this guide has every one of her appearances in the attempt to follow her chronologically, but where her movements couldn’t be followed the natural passing of time was used to follow the story. 
This is both a reading list and a completionist guide. This means there will be times when the issue only has a cameo of Helena. For a casual reader this list may be a little much. If that is the case click [here] for a shorter list that can get you started on Helena. 
Moving onto Content Warnings. 
There will be mentions and depictions of Sexual Assault of Adults and Minors, Slavery, PTSD, and Murder. These are some of the big Content Warnings. That being said let’s get started. 
[Start Here]
Huntress (1989) #1, #2 
Justice League America (1987-1996) #26 
Huntress (1989) #3 - #6 
Justice League America (1987-1996) #30, #31
Huntress (1989) #7 - #12
Justice League America (198-1996) #35 
Time Masters (1990) #1 
Huntress (1989) #13 - #19 
Justice League International Special (1990) #1
Justice League America (1987-1996) #42
Justice League International Special (1991) #2
Armageddon (1991) #2 
Detective Comics (1937-2011) #652, #653 
Robin III: Cry of the Huntress #1 - #6 
Justice League Europe (1989-1994) #47 - #50 
Detective Comics (1937-2011) #662
Showcase ‘93 (1993)  #9 , #10
Black Canary (1993) # 9 - #12
Green Arrow (1997-1998) #83 
Showcase ‘94 (1994) #5 
Robin (1993-2009) #6 
Showcase ‘94 (1994) #6 
Huntress (1994) #1 - #4
Robin (1993-2009) #17
Detective Comics (1937-2011) #686
The Batman Chronicles (1995-2000) #1 
Underworld Unleashed (1995) #2 , #3
Batman (1940-2011) #529
Batman: Shadow of the Bat (1992-1999) #49
Detective Comics (1937-2011) #698
The Batman Chronicles (1995-2000) #4
Batman: Shadow of the Bat (1992-1999) #53
Batman (1940-2011) #533
Detective Comics (1937-2011) #701
Robin (1993-2009) #33 , #34
Birds of Prey: Manhunt (1996) #1 - #4
Detective Comics (1937-2011) #703
Green Lantern (1990-2004) #81 
Robin (1993-2009) Annual #6 , #45
Genesis (1997) #1 - #4
Catwoman (1993-2001) #51 , #52 
Spectre (1992-1998) #62
JLA (1996-2006) #16 - #19 
Nightwing and Huntress (1998) #1 - #4 
Batman 80-Page Giant (1998/1999) #1 
Green Lantern (1990-2004) #103
Superman: Doomsday Wars (1998-1999) #1 - #3 
DC One Million (1998) #1 , #2 
JLA (1996-2006) #1,000,000 
DC One Million (1998) #3, #4
JLA Secret Files (1997-2000) #2
JLA (1996-2006) #24 - #26 
Hourman (1999-2001) #1
Nightwing (1996-2009) #26 - #29 
JLA (1996-2006) #27 
JLA/Titans (1998/1999) #1 - #3
Batman 80-Page Gaint (1998/1999) #2
The Batman Chronicles (1995-2000) #19
Detective Comics (1937-2011) #720
Batman: Huntress/Spoiler - Blunt Trauma (1998) #1 
Detective Comics (1937-2011) #721
 The Batman Chronicles (1995-2000) #14 
Robin (1993-2009) #65
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Batman: No Man’s Land (1999) #1 
Batman: Shadow of the Bat (1992-1999) #83 
Batman (1940-2011) #563 
Batman: Legends of the Dark Knight (1989-2010) #116 
Batman: Shadow of the Bat (1992-1999) #84
Batman (1940-2011) #564
Detective Comics (1937-2011) #731
Batman: Legends of the Dark Knight (1989-2010) #117
Batman (1940-2011) #565
Detective Comics (1937-2011) #732
Batman: Shadow of the Bat (1992-1999) #86
Detective Comics (1937-2011) #733
JLA (1996-2006) #28 - #31
Martian Manhunter (1998-2001) #6 - #9
JLA (1996-2006) #32
Martian Manhunter (1998-2001) Annual #2
Batman: Legends of the Dark Knight (1989-2010) #119
Batman: Shadow of the Bat (1992-1999) #87
Batman (1940-2011) #567
Batman: Legends of the Dark Knight (1989-2010) #120
Nightwing: Secret Files and Origins (1999) #1
Batman (1940-2011) #568
Catwoman (1993-2001) #72
Batman (1940-2011) #570
Detective Comics (1937-2011) #737
Batman: No Man’s Land - Secret Files & Origins (1999) #1
Batman: Shadow of the Bat (1992-1999) #93
The Batman Chronicles (1995-2000) #18
Nightwing (1996-2009) #38 - #39
Batman: No Man’s Land (1999) #0
Batman (1940-2011) #573
Detective Comics (1937-2011) #740
Batman: Legends of the Dark Knight (1989-2010) #126
Batman (1940-2011) #574
Detective Comics (1937-2011) #741
Batman: Shadow of the Bat (1992-1999) #94
Batman: Gotham Knights (2000-2006) #1
Batman: Gotham City Secret Files and Origins (2000) #1
JLA: Foreign Bodies (1999) #1 
JLA (1996-2006) #34 - #41
JLA: Secret Files and Origins (1997-2000) #3
Azrael: Agent of the Bat (1994-2203) #63 - #65 
Stars and S.T.R.I.P.E (1999/2000) #8
The Batman Chronicles (1995-2000) #15
Batman: Gotham Knights (2000-2006) #7
Batman/Huntress: Cry For Blood #1 - #6 
Batman: Outlaws (2000) #1 - #3
Nightwing (1996-2009) #52
Wonderwoman (1987-2006) #164 - #167
Justice League: Justice League of Amazons (2001) #1
Justice League: JL? (2001) #1
Superman: The Man of Steel (1991-2003) #109
Batman (1940-2011) #586
Batgirl (2000-2006) #18 
Batman (1940-2011) #591 
JLA (1996-2006) #58
Detective Comics (1937-2011) #763
Joker: Last Laugh (2001) #5 
Robin (1993-2009) #95 
Joker: Last Laugh (2001) #6
JLA: Incarnations (2001-2002) #7
Detective Comics (1937-2011) #773
Batman: Gotham Knights (2000-2006) #34, #35 
Nightwing (1996-2009) #75
JLA: Welcome to the Working Week (2003) #1
Batman: Family (2002-2003) #2, #4, #8 
Batman (1940-2011) #609
Batman: Gotham Knights (2000-2006) #37 - #40 
Action Comics (1938-2011) #802
Batman (1940-2011) #617 , #619
Bird of Prey: Secret Files and Origins (2003) #1
Birds of Prey (1998-2009) #57 - #61
Robin (1993-2009) #120
Batman: Gotham Knights (2000-2006) #48
Superman/Batman (2003-2011) #5 
Outsiders (2003-2007) #8 - #10
The Adventures of Superman (1987-2004) #623
Gotham Central (2002-2006) #17 , #18 
Batman: Gotham Knights (2000-2006) #50
Birds of Prey (1998-2009) #64 - #66
Outsiders (2003-2007) #12
Birds of Prey (1998-2009) #67 - #80
Teen Titans (2003-2011) #21
Birds of Prey (1998-2009) #81, #82
The OMAC Project (2005) #2
Birds of Prey (1998-2009) #83 , #84
Detective Comics (1937-2011) #809
JLA (2005-2008) #117, #119
Birds of Prey (1998-2009) #85 - #87
Nightwing (1996-2009) #112
Birds of Prey (1998-2009) #86 
JSA: Classified (2005-2008) #3
JLA (2005-2008) #121
Birds of Prey (1998-2009) #88 - #91
Infinite Crisis (2005-2006) #5 , #7
Adventures of Superman (1987-2006) #648
Villains United: Infinite Crisis Special (2006) #1
52 (2006-2007) #1 
Robin (1993-2009) #148
Birds of Prey (1998-2009) #92 - #99
Nightwing (1996-2009) #127
52 (2006-2007) #34
Birds of Prey (1998-2009) #100 - #103
52 (2006-2007) #48 , #52
Birds of Prey (1998-2009) #104 - #108
Justice League of America Wedding Special (2007) #1 
Green Arrow / Black Canary Wedding Special (2007) #1 
Birds of Prey (1998-2009) #110
Green Arrow and Black Canary (2007-2010) #1
Detective Comics (19337-2011) #837
Gotham Underground (2007/2008) #2 , #7
Birds of Prey (1998-2009) #111 - #115
Countdown to Mystery (2007/2008) #6 , #8, #9
Birds of Prey (1998-2009) #116
Birds of Prey (1998-2009) #117 - #119
Huntress: Year One (2008) #1 - #6
Manhunter (2004-2009) #33 - #36
Trinity (2008-2009) #9, #13 , #14 , #50
Final Crisis: Requiem (2008) #1
Final Crisis (2008/2009) #3
Birds of Prey (1998-2009) #120 - #123
DC Universe: Decisions (2008) #3
Secret Six (2008-2011) #1 , #7
Batman and the Outsiders (2007-2011) #13
Birds of Prey (1998-2009) #124 - #127
Batman and the Outsiders (2008/2009) #4 , #5
Batman: Battle for the Cowl (2009) #1 , #2 
Batman: Battle for the Cowl: Network (2009) #1
Batman: Battle for the Cowl (2009) #3
Batman: Streets of Gotham (2000-2011)  #3 - #6 , #9, #13
Blackest Night: Batman (2009) #2
Batman (1940-2011) #693 - #695 , #697 
Azrael (2009-2011) #2
Detective Comics (1937-2011) #859 - #663
Justice Society of America (2007-2011) #38
Detective Comics (1937-2011) #864, #865
Red Robin (2009-2011) #12
Batgirl (2009-2011) #10 , 11
Birds of Prey (2010-2011) #1 - #4
Batman: The Return of Bruce Wayne (2010) #3
Birds of Prey (2010-2011) #5 , #6
Superman/Batman (2003-2011) #78
Birds of Prey (2010-2011) #7 - #10
Brightest Day (2010-2011)
Birds of Prey (2010-2011) #11
Batman Incorporated (2011) #6
Secret Six (2008-2011) #36
Birds of Prey (2010-2011) #12 - #15
Batman (1940-2011) #713 
Convergence: The Question (2015) #1, #2
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New - 52 
Batwoman (2011-2015) #2
Secret Origins (2014-2015) #8 
Nightwing (2011-2014)  #30
Grayson (2014-2016) #1 - #5 ,Annual #1 , #6 - #11
Batgirl (2011-2016) Annual #3
Midnighter (2015) #3
Harley Quinn (2014-2016) #20
Grayson (2014-2016) Annual #2 
Batman & Robin Eternal (2015/2016) #2 , #3
Titans Hunt (2015-2016) #1 
Grayson (2014-2016) #13 , #14 
Batman & Robin Eternal (2015/2016) #5 
Midnighter (2015) #8 
Batman & Robin Eternal (2015/2016) #17
Grayson (2014-2016) #16 
Midnighter (2015) #9
Batman & Robin Eternal (20115/2016) #18 - #20
Grayson (2014-2016) #17
Midnighter (2015) #10
Batman & Robin Eternal (20115/2016) #23 , #24 
Grayson (2014-2016) #18
Batman & Robin Eternal (20115/2016) #25
Midnighter (2015) #11
Grayson (2014-2016) #19
Midnighter (2015) #12
Grayson (2014-2016) #20 Annual #3
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Rebirth 
DC Universe: Rebirth (2016) #1 
Nightwing: Rebirth (2016) #1 
Batgirl and the Birds of Prey: Rebirth (2016) #1 
Batgirl and the Birds of Prey (2016-2018) #1 - #4
Nightwing (2016-) #9 
Batgirl and the Birds of Prey (2016-2018) #5 - #13 
Nightwing (2016-) #26 - #28 
Batgirl and the Birds of Prey (2016-2018) #14
Nightwing (2016-) #30 , #31
Batgirl and the Birds of Prey (2016-2018) #15 - #22
The Hellblazer (2016-2018) #19 - #24 
The Unexpected (2018-2019) #3 , #4 
Green Arrow (2016-2019) #45
Aquaman/Justice League: Drowned Earth (2018) #1 
Detective Comics (2016-) #1000
Batman (2016-) #71 
Action Comics (1938-) #1011
Harley Quinn (2016-2020) #64 
Batgirl (2016-2020) #39 
DC Villains Giant (2019) #1 
Batman (2016-) #81 - #83
Birds of Prey: Sirens of Justice (2020) #1 
Birds of Prey (2020-) #1 
Batgirl (2016-2020) #50
Dark Knights: Death Metal (2020) #5
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Infinite Frontier 
Infinite Frontier #0 
Detective Comics (2016-) #1034 - #1039
The Other History of the Dc universe (2021) #5 
Batman Secret Files; Huntress (2021) #1
Detective Comics (2016-) #1041 , #1042 , #1046
Robins (2021-2022) #4, #5
Detective Comics (2016-) #1047. #1049 - #1058 , #1061
Nightwing (2016-) #95
Batman: Dear Detective #1 
Dark Crisis on Infinite Earths (2022) #5
Batman (2016) #129
Nightwing (2016-) #98
Lazarus Planet: Dark Fate (2023) #1
[Current Present: July 2023]
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Else Worlds and Others 
Harley Quinn and the Birds of Prey (2020) #1 - #4
Superman and Batman: World’s Funniest (2000) #1 
JLA: Act of God (2000-2001) #1
Future State: 
Future State: Dark Detective (2021) #1 , #3
Future State: Nightwing (2021) #1 , #2 
DCeased: 
DCeaased (2019) #3, #4
DCeased: Unkillable: #1
DC vs. Vampires: 
DC vs. Vampires (2021-2023) #2 , #10 , #11
DCAU: 
Superman & Batman Magazine (1993-1995) #1 , #4
The Batman & Robin Adventures (1995-1997) #19 
Justice League Unlimited (2004-2008) #20 , #22 , #27 , #31 , #36
Batman: The Adventures Continue Season Two (2021-2022) #3
Injustice: 
Injustice: Year Zero (2020-2021) Chapter #1 , #2 
Injustice: Gods Among Us (2013-2016) #6 , #7 , #9 , #11 , 12
Injustice: Gods Among Us - Year Two (2013-2016) #3 , #6 , #7 - #11 , Annual #1
Injustice: Gods Among us - Year Three (2013-2016) #2 , #6 , #9 - #12
Injustice: Gods Among Us - Year Four (2013-2016) #1 
Flashpoint: 
Flashpoint: Emperor Aquaman (2011) #2 , #3 
Flashpoint: Wonder Woman and the Furies (2011) #2 , #3
Flashpoint: Lois Lane and the Resistance (2011) #2
Convergence (2015) #6 , #7 
Tiny Titans:
Tiny Titans (2008-2012) #45
Bombshells: 
DC Comics: Bombshells (2015-2017) #6 , #10 , #16 , #17 , #18 , #26 
Bombshells: United (2017-2018) #36
Batman: The Brave and The Bold:
Batman: The Brave and The Bold (2009-2010) #11 , #14
All-New Batman: The Brave and The Bold (2011-202) #4
Lil’Gotham: 
Batman: Lil’Gotham (2013-2014) #3 , #5 , #6 , #8 , #10 , #12
Scooby-Doo: 
Scooby-Doo Team-Up (2018) #34
The Batman & Scooby-Doo Mysteries (2021-) #5 , #12
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Other Appearances (Crossovers) 
Batman Versus Predator II (1993/1994) # 1 - #4
JLA/Witchblade (2000-2001) #1
Avengers/JLA (2003/2004) #4
Other Characters to hold the name, Huntress: 
Paula Brooks
Helena Wayne
Carol Danvers (Amalgamverse)
Charlotte Gage-Radcliffe
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To the Helena Bertinelli fans I hope you enjoy! 
@inkareds​ I finished the complete guide if you want to check it out. 
If I made any mistakes or forgot something leave a comment, or send me a message. I tried to include everything, but I could have messed up. I will also try to update this as new Huntress stuff comes out, so the list may grow. 
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i can’t believe dc really thought that dick grayson didn’t have enough family members with his dad, his other dad/grandfather, his chaotic good stepmom, the assassin he co-parents damian with, his gay aunt, his four brothers, his one sister and one honorary sister, his four lifelong friends who are more family than his actual family, and his dog. dc looked at all that and said nope, that’s not enough, add one more to the pile please. i can’t fathom it
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barbara what are you wearing
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nightwing's escrima sticks now function as glass cutters 😌
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batarangsoundsdumb · 3 years
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i'm so fucking confused guys
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hood-ex · 3 years
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I don't have the energy to write paragraphs about Nightwing #81 so I'm just gonna jot thoughts down sporadically. Warning: spoilers.
First of all, where the fuck did Heartless get that fire extinguisher from? Literally just pulled it out of his ass.
Dick thinking, I underestimated him, when Heartless caught the escrima stick Dick threw at him made me roll my eyes. Underestimated? What. You literally just encountered him. All you did was throw your stick at him, he caught it, and now you're amazed by his fighting prowess lolol what the hell.
The homage to past Nightwing writers/artists was kinda cool... at first. Then it made me wonder if those are Taylor's favorite Nightwing writers. If that's the case... 🙄.
Dick's head trauma affecting him post amnesia arc is interesting to me. I like seeing the consistency. That being said, Taylor could've put Dick in a coma with the multiple hits to the head he received in this issue on top of the brain damage he already has. Future State Dick had the right idea with the head protector.
I understand the image of Bruce slapping Dick is a meme, but I have no idea why Redondo (or whoever) chose that image when writers like King have already caught heat for portraying Bruce as an abusive dad. And I know that non-comic fans don't think anything of that meme because they're not aware Robin is Batman's son, but for us comic fans who are aware of that fact, I find it in poor taste.
Tim saying, "You have a concussion. You're supposed to be more sensible than Bruce." Uhhh. No? Dick fights crime when he's hurt all the time. Comics don't wait for heroes to heal lmao.
I like that Dick's escrima sticks have lasers.
Babs seeming to monitor Dick and being in his ear all the time is siiigh. I get that she's there to help. But. Can we please have some issues where it's just Dick and no one else from the batfam?
"I'm not wearing a mask." Okay, calm down Forever Evil lmao.
Melinda possibly being Dick's sister is annoying. He already has ties to Raptor via his mom, ties to the Court of Owls, and now he supposedly has ties to Melinda via his dad. It's just weird/too convenient for him to have all these criminal personal connections tied to his family, especially when it's all centered in Gotham/Bludhaven. Dick's supposed to be some random kid traveling around America who gets adopted by Bruce, but now he's somehow personally connected to big players/villains in the crime world? 'Kay. I can accept the Court of Owls thing since that's tied to Haly's Circus, and I can accept the Raptor thing since Raptor was infatuated with Dick's mom. But the Melinda thing is just too much.
If she actually is Dick's sister then that potentially puts John Grayson in a bad light. Either Melinda is older than Dick and John knocked someone up before marrying Mary, or he cheated on Mary and had Melinda after he was already married/had Dick.
All in all, Dick's really not impressing me so far. He gets his wallet stolen in the second issue of this run and then in the fourth issue he's already been unmasked. Can we just stash Taylor's Dick in a mattress store and bring in Future State Dick instead alskdja.
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moonundernostalgia · 3 years
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Nightwing #81 Memes
My reaction to Dick being nerfed so hard on the whole run
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Bruno to everyone that is calling him out for putting that disgusting shirt:
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Me for Babs still appearing in every damn issue:
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Dick when he realizes once again,his blood family is bringing him problems:
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Everyone @ Melinda:
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My reaction to the whole issue:
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Me to Barbara and Tim:
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Me everytime Tom's speaks about Nightwing like he doing a great job:
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True Nightwing's Stans after the last issue..
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My reaction to Babs's shirt:
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Ok, bare with me.
People thought that Nightwing #81 was going to have some sort of Pride message, perhaps having Dick finally come out as Bi?? (I'm people).
That didn't happen, but I still think that we're on the verge of something.
SPOILERS for the chapter I guess, but come on, you've read it by now if you've got this far lol.
So, the ships that came to save the kids on the pier are named after some of the most famous writers in Nightwing's runs (like Tim Seeley, for example) and what was the first one to arrive called?? Devin. After Devin Grayson.
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Why does this matter? Because Devin Grayson is known for publicly stating that she sees Dick as Bi, and is Bi herself.
"Personally, I think he's bisexual. I mean look at his history, there's no denying that he likes women. The way I think about him, he likes everyone, he's sort of a contact junkie."
So, we have a Pride month issue celebrating the previous writers, and the first one named is a Bi woman who saw Dick as Bi... interesting. And hey, Devin is hated; and for good reason. Her writing Sucked, for many reasons, but mostly for how she portrayed Romani people as liars and thieves and did little to no research about the culture, and she's definitely not held up in high regard in the fandom. I mean, she wrote Nightwing #93, you get the gist. It wouldn't make sense that she's the first one to be named unless she specifically had some significance to the issue. It's a Pride month issue. If you squint and think about it too hard, it makes sense.
Plus, before June we got sneak peaks at some of the Pride art for this year. Most of it was as we expected, Harley and Ivy, Midnighter and Apollo, as well as the trinity, but there was one cover that took a lot of people by surprise.
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Don't get me wrong, loving the pole dancing here. But unless this is another classic case of queerbaiting, there seems to be some hints that we may get a Bi Dick Grayson!! Hopefully they don't make him fall into the promiscuous Bi stereotype, though the chances of them even making him queer are very, very low lol.
Tom Taylor, listen to the people!! (I'm people lol)
Anyway, Dick is Bi and I don't care what DC has to say about it 💜
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elliebelliegirl · 3 years
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So Bruce has a new kid to adopt, got it
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Do you know which comics to read if someone wanted to learn more about Stefanie brown and Cassandra Cain?
Batgirl Volume 1 (2000-2006) is the be-all-end-all for Cass content, and it also coincidentally has the best Steph content, so I highly recommend it. Bolding my favorites, but some good reading...
For further Cass reading:
Batman: No Man’s Land (1999-2000)
Batgirl Volume 1 (2000-2006)
Detective Comics (1939-2011) #790, 796
Superboy Volume 4 (1994- 2002) #85
Supergirl Volume 4 (1996-2002) #63 (transphobia tw)
Nightwing Volume 2 (1996-2009) #81
Young Justice Volume 1 (1999-2003) #21
Gotham City Secret Files 2000
Batman: Gotham Knights (2000-2006) #2, #42-49
Harley Quinn Volume 1 (2000-2004) #10-12
Batman: Family (2002-2003) #7
Superman/Batman Volume 1 (2003-2011) #5
Batman and the Outsiders Volume 2 (2007-2009)
Red Robin Volume 1 (2009-2011) #17,19, 25
Batman: Gates of Gotham (2011)
For further Steph reading:
Detective Comics (1939-2011) #647-649, #796
Robin Volume 2 (1993-2009)
Batman: Huntress & Spoiler (1998)
Birds of Prey Volume 1 (1999-2009) #39 & 40
Batgirl Volume 1 (2000-2006) #20, 21, 26, 27, 28, 31, 32, 38, 53, and 54.
Batman: Gotham Knights (2000-2006) #22, #37
Green Arrow Volume 3 (2001-2007) #5
Batman: Family (2002-2003) #2
Batgirl Volume 3 (2009-2011)
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barbie0303 · 3 years
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Spoilers for Nightwing #81
Melinda Zucco being Dick Grayson’s sister is probably going to be the ‘Slade may be Damian’s father’ situation all over again or even worse it could be like the ‘Bruce and Owlman are brothers’ twist from the Court of Owls story. This sucks!!!
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Nightwing 83 Review
guess who isn't weeks late this time. my opinion of the series is going up a little bit. it's still not great, but i'm not actively put off by it anymore the way i was after 81. not going to tag as spoilers, but be warned that they are under the cut
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i’m sure you all are well aware of this but now, but dear god i love bruno redondo’s art. like, an unhealthy amount. the pink and blue is getting to be a theme with either him or just this run, but i am definitely enjoying it. the movement in this cover is clearly obvious, but well done. you recoznize right off the bat that the cover was drawn to drag your eyes down the page until you get to the bottom, but you enjoy the whole ride there. 
also, redondo’s way of drawing a character in stages of action so we can see just how much they’re doing in a split second of movement is quickly becoming something i like to see drawn with dick, and any other character that has that sort of ease of movement and body sense, like cass or sin or maybe a super. 
and he’s in action the entire time! there’s shot drawn just to show off a shirtless comic book character, the way nightwing is so often subjected to. he’s shirtless because he’s changing his clothes, and that’s all we see, no more and no less. very practical, very well done. i like it.
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he looks so cute right here oh my god. the little squint, the hair curls. it’s adorable.
but also like. unless melinda has specifically outfitted the door spyhole so that the person on the other side can’t see dick looking through it (and in all honesty she might have) then everyone on the other side can see dick looking through that door. 
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bringing your attention back to the “i can’t see melinda’s fbi file oh no!! it’s redacted!! whatever can we do!!” stupidity. redacted files are child’s play for oracle, and definitely doable for both dick and bruce. so that’s bullshit.
now, melinda apparently grew up with the maroni family, then took down part of the family from the inside. the maroni family is a large and notable presence in gotham, one that bruce pays a respectable amount of attention to. he definitely would have grown suspicious when two members of the maroni family were taken down, and with some investigation, he would have discovered melinda’s plan. and it should go without saying that the majority of things you see batman doing? dick can do it too.
it’s not so much that i don’t like how clever the villains/antiheroes are getting. i don’t like how dc heroes are increasingly written as less intelligent. they seem to be relying on pure fighting skills or luck, which may be the case for a couple heroes, but has never been the case for most of dc’s big name heroes, the bat family included. it’s irritating to me to see this sort of stuff pop up as a major plot point when i know that, if dick or bruce had been written with the amount of skill and power that they canonically possess, this entire mess would have been sorted out years ago.
unrelated but dick and melinda have the same hair
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this may just be me, but i was always under the impression that dick doesn’t really have a “double life???”
yes, he’s talented enough to create enough differences between robin/nightwing and dick grayson’s mannerisms, way of movement, voices, and speech patterns so that it’s very difficult to put the two together.
but nightwing has never been separate from dick grayson, not the way bruce and batman is. he’s always leaned more towards clark in that aspect: his hero persona is an exaggerated, stately, larger-than-life version of who he really is. there’s no second persona, no real “dick grayson identity” and “nightwing identity.” they’re the same person with the same goals, ideas, and skills. one just pretends to abide by the law, and one gives up pretense of that.
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oh good thank god. if he’d trusted her right off the bat (hehe. bat.) i would have slapped him upside the head. at least he’s still got instincts.
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gosh the colouring on this is cool. the red has enough purple and pink tones to it that it doesn’t abruptly ruin the tone of the artwork. but it’s definitely glaring enough to take the reader outside of this personal moment they had slipped into between dick and melinda, to put them back in the present where they’re reminded that oh yea there are people hunting dick down. 
the next panel keeps this up too, in a less severe way. melinda’s bodyguard shows up (i forgot her name sorry :[ ) and subtly places us in the middle of an action scene rather than a private, personal scene.
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laughing so fucking hard have our little vigilantes grown so accustomed to breaking into places that it doesn’t even register as a crime anymore??? tim coming in through the fire escape to pick bernard up for their date and being very much confused as to why bernard is freaking out.
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i really like melinda’s shirt and now despite all the work i have to do and the fucking conference i have to host on monday i want to spend hours scrolling through clothing shops online trying to find this shirt. the mock neck/neckline is so cool i want it
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so roland just assumes that a very dangerous vigilante who is highly talented in combat and a very dangerous bodyguard who is also highly talented in combat had a fight that ended with this very dangerous bodyguard being tied up and she looks completely fine? roland just assumes that her having no visible wounds or bruises means that they got into a fight and she lost that easily? uh. aight then
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dick what are you doing. legitimately what the fuck are you doing. why are you posing oh my god. you are injured and tired and in absolutely no position to go hand to hand with one of main enemies. jesus christ run away or head to lower ground or something. don’t just stand around letting the floodlights show exactly where you are.
i don’t understand what he’s trying to do here??? blockbuster fully bought the story that dick fought them both, won, tried to get info out of them and failed, then hightailed it out of there. he didn’t have to draw roland out for a fight.
but it does look cool. the way the light just highlights his silhouette and the blue parts of his costume does look badass. he does get style points in my book for this.
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w h a t  d i d  i  f u c k i n g  t e l l  y o u ,  d i c k ?
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very classic superhero line and it does sound like something dick would say in a fit of righteous rage but also it makes me laugh so hard because all vigilantes think they’re so powerful that the law doesn’t apply to them. dick vigilantism is illegal. you’re acting above the law and pretending it doesn’t apply to you. hypocritical much?
it happens so often in superhero movies, tv shows, comics, whatever and it makes me giggle every damn time.
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pretty decent comeback but before i start seeing people writing blockbuster as a thug i’m going to remind you that he made a deal with a demon for genius level intellect. if this turns into another bane situation i’m going to be a little miffed. he’s a smart man, which makes him a dangerous and infinitely more interesting enemy for nightwing.
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this is so horribly in character i want to scream. (or. at least. it lines up with one of the versions of nightwing i have in my head.) he’s running right towards the bullets, miraculously doesn’t get shot, while making a sort-of pun. i hate this so much. i love him.
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this is cool. this art is really really cool.
he leaped from a building right towards a helicopter that’s actively shooting at him, but none of the bullets are touching him. none of the corruption of the city can touch him no matter how hard it tries, because he’s too good to be corrupted. Comic Book Logic Can Be Good Sometimes Actually.
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batman’s belt what??? swiss army knife who?? sorry, i only know nightwing’s bright blue escrima.
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this is one of my favourite things about heroes with exceptional abilities, even more so if the hero is human. the things they can do are so far beyond the realm of normal human abilities that it’s equal parts terrifying and awe-inspiring every time they act.
he just used modified grappling wires to hook to the door of a moving helicopter, swung around the helicopter safely without hitting the blades, gained exactly the right momentum to swing upward again right through the opening of helicopter, then fought and tied up the men before they had any idea what was happening. that’s near impossible to do.
it’s stuff like this where i just sort of sigh in contentment. no matter how many times they leave out dick’s detective skills or conveniently forget that he’s actually a master planner and team leader and make him out to be this forgetful dude who makes everything up on the fly because of his “circus roots,” at least they won’t ever take away dick’s sheer physical ability honed to perfection. 
the art, too! in a few panels, dick’s drawn a little lightened or blurred. he’s moving so quickly and fighting so efficiently that he can barely be seen by the enemy. he’s got perfect form all the way through.
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and THIS!
there was a helicopter that had five men shooting at him with what looks like machine guns. most people would be dead. some would run away, and be nimble enough to survive without fatal hits. there are very few people, even in fucking comic books, who can look at that hopeless situation and turn it around so quickly and thoroughly that he benefits from it instead.
i just. love nightwing.
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it was funny the first time as a comic reader aware of the meme. it’s really not anymore. why the hell would you, in universe, be wearing a shirt that has a picture of your boyfriend being hit in the face by his father. 
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okay that was funny. 
look at lil bitewing, so concerned for her human!!! love her sm. 
also a question as to the timeline of things. is nightwing happening before or after urban legends? 
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i was so distracted by dick wearing a robe and briefs and nothing else that i didn’t register the second part until later. he slept for two days?? babs, baby, he recently had a very traumatic brain injury. why do you sound so nonchalant?
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@TIM X COFFEE SHIPPERS GET FUCCCCKKKKEEDDDDD
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ngl i totally forgot about that dude oops
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this comic is giving so many reaction pictures. you know how you always use the worst possible picture of your friend for your friend’s contact picture? i’m just getting so many of these.
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leslie!!! the titans!!! lucius!!! dick going to go see old friends!!!! the titans!!! this part made me so irrationally happy it really did. gar being the one to just. offer dick solutions with open arms. this was the best
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i wish i could just copy and paste this entire scene, but that would take up way too much space, so i’m just going to talk about it instead. 
you gave me my name, nightwing, and you gave me some of the best advice i’ve received in my life: beautiful little throwback to nightwing’s origin. you’d be surprised at the amount of people who don’t know where the name came from, or who don’t know how much clark means to dick. and the fact that dick still looks up to clark as a hero, recognizes that clark isn’t always perfect and yet continues to hold him in such high esteem, and still looks back on advice that clark gave him fondly just warmed my heart so much.
for a man who has fearlessly stood up to darkseid, bruce will do a lot to avoid a conversation: “grrr. i’m the BATMAN. i’m so DARK and MYSTERIOUS. nobody knows the true me. no one ever will. i will be LONELY for the rest of my CURSED LIFE. such is the price of a hero. ignore my farmer himbo husband in the background”
but i don’t think there’s anything heroic about being a billionaire: another nod to how much dick follows clark’s example rather than bruce. yes, this was a very poignant and important criticism, and i think it’s wonderful that this was published in a pretty popular comic book. but the thing is, there is a way to be a heroic billionaire, but only in fictional universes. the way bruce, ollie, t’challa only ever use their wealth to help people. they donate massive amounts of money to charities that they themselves create so they know exactly how the money is being used. they hire people who aren’t likely to get jobs anywhere else and pay them much more than what a base living wage is. they use their power to help push progressive laws and social change. they are helping. 
dick doesn’t fully see it that way. he spent more than half his childhood the son of a billionaire, but still believes that one could be more heroic when one doesn’t have obscene amounts of wealth. whose example do you think he followed to come to that conclusion?
superman looked up to alfred pennyworth?: i mean yea alfred may have been a wildly irresponsible guardian and one hell of an enabler but goddamn if he didn’t love his kid.
you don’t need my input. you’ve thought it all through: ooooooh this line made me grin. for so long, dick’s treated clark as a mentor and a guiding figure. he’s still seen as a kid, an up and coming, snot-nosed titan with dreams of a better world. clark still thinks of him as a kid, despite watching him grow up. but this little line was something i think dick needed sorely to hear. he doesn’t need anyone’s guiding hand on his shoulder, he doesn’t need to ask for permission. he doesn’t need clark to support him the way he did when he was a teenager. he’s all grown up now, and he doesn’t need clark’s help. i imagine it was a bit of a surprise for dick to hear that. 
honestly, i couldn’t think of a better role model: ohhh but it doesn’t stop there. clark just straight up turns the tables on dick. imagine you’re dick, and you’ve looked up to this one hero your entire life, and then one day he turns to you and says that he thinks you’re so kind and smart and worthy of a person that he wants you to mentor his son!? goes to show just how much clark trusts dick.
i swear to god dick probably cries every time he hears clark compliment him because bruce is so rare and sparing with his praise that clark giving him the slightest hint of approval is just a dopamine rush.
also, now deathstroke and superman have both asked nightwing to mentor their kids. the juxtaposition is fuckin hysterical. imagine either of their reactions when they realize what kind of company they’re with
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lets talk colours for a second, because i absolutely adore how classic colour tropes have been subverted in this comic, and in this general run really.
warm tones have usually (usually, not always) been associated with light and comfort and friendship and,,,,,well,,,warmth. whereas cool tones are usually used to unsettle, or make a scene seem colder and put the reader on edge. this varies if a comic only uses cool tones, or only uses warm tones, but if a comic uses both, this is generally well-used.
that isn’t the case in this run.
dark red, orange, and other warm tones have been used to symbolize danger, action, attacks. hot pink isn’t usually included in this colour group, but it’s definitely part of it in this case. in contrast, scenes that have cool colours give us the impression of slipping into a comfortable, calm scene with babs, tim, the titans, and other allies. even the beginning scene with superman has this blue, but then it transitions into something more golden coloured. dawn broke over dick, as his new idea came to light, and that was reflected in the art (and the sunrise setting.)
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have there ever been times when dick’s longed for the comfort of his mask because he didn’t feel confident as dick grayson? i can’t think of any. i may be wrong, but this struck me as pretty ooc.
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am i just??? gay and reading this all wrong??
cause i was under the impression that when someone says they are grateful for your friendship you don’t immediately kiss them. 
or is this like. normal straight mating rituals.
i mean he’s smiling afterward but still babs aren’t you supposed to at least make sure it’s okay first? you guys broke up a while back after you said something along the lines of “i want to be coworkers with you and nothing more because i don’t trust you or feel comfortable around you as a civilian anymore.” like lmao after you say something like that to someone i would assume that you don’t have the permission to just kiss them whenever you want.
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show of hands who else got real sad when they realized dick was talking about himself in this.
sure, he could be referencing the things he’s seen blockbuster pull, and the children on the streets. but “i’ve seen money used for enforcement,” sounds a little too close to dick’s entire life being destroyed by one man threatening the circus to pay protection money for me to completely ignore. and “i’ve seen the poorest and most vulnerable blamed and punished rather than assisted” becomes a lot worse when you remember dick was thrown in juvie for a couple months until bruce was able to obtain legal guardianship, and in there, not a authority figure believed him when he told them his parents were murdered.
he’s lived this before.
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a. mother. fucking. typo.
fucking why
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i mean i’ve stated my distaste for the batfamily groupchat before but like. this is reaching new levels of ridiculousness. jason sounds like he was written by a fanfic writer. tim sounds like he was written by a fanfic writer. steph sounds like she was written by someone who doesn’t know the first thing about steph and wanted to include her for “family points!!!!!” damian’s supposed to be completely off the grid, and everyone’s searching for him. i do love the way cass texts tho.
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well god fuck now i’m crying
dick got a phone call, a sorry, and a thank you out of bruce. i feel so much secondhand happiness for him, if that’s a thing. we’ll just ignore the way bruce looks ugly af and focus on the good parts okay?
and again with the colour symbolism here!
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i’m either going to love this or hate this. who knows, we’ll see.
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something something hearts something something pink is an evil colour something something. i need to know more about this guy but there’s definitely symbolism there. 
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is it just me or does this dude look like the backstabbing traitorous absolutely motherfucking piece of shit villain that killed tadashi hamada in big hero 6?
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this is gonna sound very cursed indeed, but the whole tony zucco has a daughter plot is giving me flashbacks to the whole voldemort has a daughter plot from the cursed child
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Haley/Bitewing in Nightwing (2016) #81
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halogamma · 3 years
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me looking at pussy gate memes: :)
me seeing nightwing #81 spoilers: :0
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butwhyduh · 3 years
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Spoiler for Nightwing 81
Why the fuck would Barbara wear this shirt??? Like here’s a funny reminder that your dad is abusive?? She would never do that. I get the fact that it’s a meme but it’s real in their world ffs.
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