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#nat talk k@ylor
bisluthq · 2 years
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If taylor gave them advice, it'll probably be leave him or something along those lines and it would end up ruining their relationship
Taylor’s entire personal philosophy for years was “it’s a wonderful day to dump him” which isn’t a bad philosophy to have in general but like once you find someone it works with it’s not reaaaaally relevant.
Taylor knows that now - see songs like New Year’s Day which are all “but I stay when it’s hard and it’s wrong and we’re making mistakes” or False God or Afterglow - but it’s something she’s learned to do like more recently than 2014-2015 when she was super tight with Karlie.
Clayd explicitly said like Karlie was pissed that Taylor wasn’t there for her in 2016 when she had a serious problem with Josh so like I just don’t see why we’d think she was dispensing valuable advice back then to people with adult problems except the need to have Taylor be the best at absolutely everything idk.
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bisluthq · 2 years
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Do you think taylor ever gave relationship advice to karlie while karlie was going through all that with Josh?
What would she say lmao like Taylor had literally zero experience in like something like that? By the time they became friends like Josh and Karlie had been together for like a year and a half and Karlie was looking at converting to Judaism. Taylor’s advice - which would most likely boil down to “well break up with him” - wouldn’t be very relevant or appropriate.
I think Karlie has her older friends - Nat V for instance who’d also dealt with being like the trashy Eastern European model marrying the British aristocrat and being judged and stuff for that - who would’ve been a lot more useful for her. Like Nat could’ve been like “here’s how I won the Portmans over” and Karlie could’ve been like “oh cool”. What would Taylor offer to that convo?
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bisluthq · 2 years
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I’m so confused by karlie and Taylor’s friendship... I though they stopped being friends in 2016 when the whole kimye thing went down but i just saw a selfie of them together at rep tour. So if they’re still friends why do swifties hate karlie? Taylor doesn’t hate her
Bestie check this tag but long story short yeah Taylor dislikes her a lot and there were like 2 fallings out (one in 2016 and one in 2019ish). Neither had shit to do with Kimye but the latter one does have stuff to do with Scooter.
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bisluthq · 2 years
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I love how kaylors go STAGED PAP PICS, BACKGRID, THEY CALLED THE PAPS.. When their entire fucking theory is based on staged pap pics.. Like the irony🤷‍♀️
I mean again I think we need to unpack what we mean by staged because fwiw I don’t think the bulk of Kaylor pics were *staged* but they did 100% call the paps a lot and that’s not weird or shitty or whatever but like yeah 🤷🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️ they were selling a Vision™️ tbh.
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bisluthq · 2 years
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How do you think Taylor and Karlie actually feel about each other now? I feel like Karlie still likes baiting insane kaylors because it gives her much craved attention but is ambivalent towards Taylor, whereas Taylor probably genuinely dislikes Karlie for the scooter affiliation and seethes if she goes online and sees gaylors writing about their "queer joy" from 10 years ago that never existed.
This comes with 1) a lot of assumptions and baseless headcanons about both women 2) a gross overestimation of the mathematical or cultural relevance of Kaylor.
Karlie hasn’t “baited” Kaylors since she got pregnant. I’m also not convinced Karlie was ever trying to bait romantic!Kays. She did, imo, try and retain Swifties. Inexhaustive list of examples in which she worked to retain Swiftie attention: posted publicly for Tay’s birthday in 2017, went to and actively documented Rep Tour and posted the Rep Room selfie in 2018, tried to imply Taylor is coming to her wedding(s) in 2018 and had Ash Graham cover for her in an interview by “not revealing the guest list” post fact like Tay DIDN’T go but they didn’t want to say, listening to Lover on main in 2019 and telling Vogue her and Taylor are still really good friends, and like posting her folklore-esque content in 2020 (and going on a like spree of actual cardigans).
Now, why did Karlie do this? Because she wanted to… retain Swifties, many of whom had originally liked her (in the way they like most of Tay’s friends but especially the pretty Barbie doll ones). Does literally ANY of the above imply IN ANY WAY that they’re in a romantic closeted relationship? Absolutely not. Going to a bachelorette party at someone’s concert and trying to say they went to your weddings and saying you’re good friends with someone is NOT in any way saying “we are sekrit wives”. It’s just wanting to avoid drama and retain some of the audience you got from that.
If someone saying “haha we’re still good friends don’t worry!!!” makes you think they’re dating or married that’s… insane.
Since Karlie got pregnant and Kays got crazier and came for her baby and since ITTG dropped she has abandoned the above.
But y’all there are approximately 10K Kays/Gaylors. KARLIE - not even Taylor - has 10.3 MILLION followers. Kays do not even make up 1% of her fanbase. Now maybe she has some bought followers. Shit let’s call Kays 10% of her fanbase. And so? Like as annoying and crazy as they are can she factor a segment that small into her actual marketing plans?
Next: Taylor doesn’t hate people for Scooter affiliations. She went to Ed’s big wedding alongside Scooter himself and it was all a okay. Her and Ariana have never had beef. There is literally nothing to indicate she gets mad at people for doing business with the man.
According to Perez and Spencer Pratt, Taylor is angry at Karlie because Karlie TOLD Scooter stuff about Taylor. That’s what pissed Taylor off - not Karlie working with him but Karlie running her mouth and telling TAY’s business to him. Before Tay found that out, they were just… people who’d grown apart.
Taylor had gone on Insta and liked Karlie’s wedding pic so she had 1) remembered 2) publicly wanted to show her support.
Like the beef between them that exists now started in 2019 when Tay got Masters info. Before that they’d simply drifted.
Finally (maybe): the “tea” all says Karlie hated Kaylor in real time - the shipping not the conspiracy - and Tay found it cute and funny. This makes sense because Tay was single and then in a new relationship with a gross hetty boy DJ who didn’t mind this stuff and Karlie was in a serious pre-existing relationship and trying to look like marriage material and her serious boyfriend was getting harassment so I don’t think she liked that. She liked SWIFTIES of whom there were far more. Taylor found all the friend shipping cute and hilarious until she realized like these were actual conspiracies and then she backed off.
However, if we want to talk about like attracting Gaylors like Taylor did so into Lover era. Yes, there aren’t a lot of them but she knows they exist because she was terminally online when they were born and encouraged them by regularly liking posts about like silly Kaylor jokes. Taylor then made a gay pride era with “gay pride makes me me” and put a bi pride flag on her head and then she wrote a bunch of love songs about women (male perspective or nah, if you’re worried about people thinking you’re gay you don’t sing a song addressed to a gal from that POV).
Taylor also has had Gaylors - not basement baby Kays tho - at all her in person fan events including the ATW premiere. She had like a big Swiftgron from TikTok (I think but maybe Twitter) at it. Swiftgron… also isn’t real but it CLEARLY does not bother her.
So look: neither are “baiting” anyone and idk that they ever did. Real world baiting is idk what TaTu did. It’s not saying your ex friend went to your wedding. They are on bad terms now. But it has nothing to do with Kaylor lol sorry.
Like y’all there just aren’t enough ACTUAL Kays - “they broke up” ones included - for this to be a relevant demographic to target.
TL; dr - no one thinks about Kays except for them and their obsessed ass antis.
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bisluthq · 2 years
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. Idk what the story is for Karlie and neither do any of you and it’s not important but like acting like there isn’t a story is imo silly. /// Okay but who cares what the story is? We can care about the drama of it all but honestly knowing the story wouldn’t change anything? Karlie still backstabbed Taylor and spilled her secrets to her enemies so even if we have a story it wouldn’t change this fact and Karlie would still be the shitty friend that she is? Idk how knowing a story will change any dynamics since karlie went ahead and did something cunty.
Well yeah it’s just interesting dude lol. Like everything to do with celebs and shit. We don’t know these people so like it’s just… interesting. It’s interesting what all she actually told Scooter and it’s interesting what her take on what happened is and we won’t know most likely and we don’t have to and Karlie is defs to blame for the current situation but it’s interesting and she’s obvi not the Devil incarnate idk.
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bisluthq · 2 years
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I sometimes think Taylor got to know something that karlie did during the whole snakegate thing.. Based on words of a sister comes back in whispers..
Or else I think they already drifted apart naturally and the whole scooter stuff happened. Maybe karlie posting that tea thing. And Taylor felt she sided or helped scooter.. And saw it as a betrayal
I just think whatever happened both of them felt betrayed and hurt. They moved on.. I know how bad on can feel when a friendship ends on bad terms.
But I also what to know the story behind "yes I got your letter" Stuff.. You think karlie reached out to tay after folklore because karlie was desperate to make it look like they were friends.
So based on the people who’ve like spilt tea on this - Perez and Spencer, Clayd, the Page Six article presumably from or approved by Karlie’s people, and the behavior of their various friends (Tay’s ones like Ash and Claire and Karlie’s Ash and shit too) here’s what I rate happened: they drifted apart as people do but were still on okay terms. Karlie came to Rep and invited Taylor to her wedding and Tay couldn’t go because she was in Australia and I don’t think especially wanted to but like did congratulate Karlie (she even went and liked her wedding pic ergo searched her up the day after).
Then Karlie did something that facilitated the masters sale. Spencer thought it’s on accident but who knows tbh.
And that’s when Taylor went scorched earth.
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bisluthq · 2 years
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Guys let's put the hate to the side for a sec, karlie had a golden retriever bf who worships the ground she walks on , stuck with her even though he could've just left, would absolutely anything for her and who is lovey and dovey publicly with her and is basically her prince charming. So imagine if you were this insecure 20 something pop star who's insecure in so many way, was depressed and just wanted to be loved to the point where she was willingly to do anything and go through anything for it and didn't understand why nothing was working. and you were seeing this happen couple who even though were going through hell they still chose each other every single moment of every single day and were willing to put up with all of that crap just to stay together..how would you feel? As a human being who just wanted to be loved and respected, how would you feel seeing them?
This is what I’m saying - Joshlie clearly had what Tay wanted. And the overcoming obstacles was sexy as fuck for her back then. She was constantly romanticizing stuff like that.
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bisluthq · 2 years
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Taylor obviously saw it as karlie trying to bring her down dude that’s why she got a song? Running her mouth to her business enemy is something to write songs about it’s beyond friendship betrayal at that point it’s legit someone trying to sabotage her. Knowing Taylor who thought people wanted to ruin her career in 2016 she defs thought karlie was doing the same hence the song. I don’t think if karlie and Taylor were that close taylor would’ve left her alone during that rough patch of hers with josh. Taylor didn’t give a fuck and that’s fine I think karlie stopped giving fucks about her too but she just kept going for clout and swiftie cash.
Nahhhh dude because the betrayal didn’t happen in 2016 it happened nearer 2019 around the masters thing. They were on okay terms in between - Tay even gave her and her sisters those Rep tickets. Taylor *did* drop her in that hard patch because Taylor had her own problems and most likely wasn’t being a good friend for OBVIOUS reasons. When you’re contemplating suicide no matter how much you love your friend you’re not gonna counsel them through “sucks that his mom is such a monster” because no one cares about their friends enough to do that.
ITTG and Closure don’t sound like “I don’t care at all lol” songs sorry.
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bisluthq · 2 years
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I don’t think Taylor wrote song because karlie was involved like if karlie would’ve just left her side like hailee did during her cancellation she wouldn’t have gotten a song either. I think Taylor wrote a song because she backstabbed her with scooter who Taylor hates so fucking much. And also karlies level of backstabbing is way more than kendall’s like that’s kendall’s fucking family lol and karlie just ran her mouth infront of a friend about taylors fucking business and shit that seems more fucked up and intentional sabotage than what kendall did with that childish insta post.
Idk I think if she genuinely didn’t care about Karlie as some of you are alleging no backstabbing would upset her and also Karlie wouldn’t have had intel to blab about. Super casual friends can’t backstab you dude. And super casual friends don’t have keys to your home (as Karlie did). Like I *acknowledge* I’m projecting but imo some of you are very hesitant to the idea that Karlie and Tay were close and hurt one another deeply and had a toxic vibe and I think that’s rooted in how much y’all have decided you hate Karlie.
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bisluthq · 2 years
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How? Like an absolute queen? /// No sis we mean it’s just not Taylors vibe at all. Josh isn’t someone Taylor would want to be treated like a queen by because his ways of treating karlie like a queen are in total contrast to the ways Taylor defines as being treated like a queen 🤷‍♀️ Josh isn’t a bad partner and Joshlie is a happy couple but I doubt they were a happy couple in Taylor’s books and hence she wouldn’t be jealous because she’s different to US who see Joshlie as cute but she gives the vibes to not see that kinda relationship as cute. That’s doesn’t mean Josh isn’t treating karlie as a queen like he absolutely is and the in laws are not even a part of the story here. Karlie would 100% bitch about josh to Taylor and Taylor would be like “then dump his ass🤷‍♀️” but she low-key would know karlie wouldn’t because she’s kinda in love and kinda gold digging so idk how she’d be jealous yk?
Because I think Taylor BADLY wanted a longterm relationship to the point of putting up with Calvin’s shitty ass. Like she was absolutely jealous of friends in super secure relationships and Karlie being with Josh since she was 19 would be even more intense imo because Taylor was slut shamed so badly and really hated that about herself and felt masses of shame. Like obviously she thought it was dope to have a steady partner who loves you from 19.
And like her and Josh got along besties.
I don’t think she fancied him but she didn’t think he sucks lmfao she thought he’s quite Neat™️ and like recommended apps and shit to him.
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bisluthq · 2 years
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I don’t think she was jealous of Karlie like for me there’s NO WAY or NO WORLD in which Taylor Swift would be jealous of Karlie Kloss. So I’m just gonna disagree hard with you lol. She’s definitely jealous of some of her other friends or other people at some point but Karlie nah so I’ll disagree
Ehhhh I think that’s exactly the person she was jealous of lmfao. It was a toxic friendship dude. That’s why it fucked out. And it was VERY intense and deep and meaningful and idk why y’all always try to act like they weren’t besotted with one another and weren’t hurt by one another. They literally were.
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bisluthq · 2 years
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I don't know why a legend (as you say) would be jealous of Karlie Kloss, even because she was with Calvin most of the time that kaylor was still friends, but that's ok, if you and the select group of Karlie's fans in this blog think this is true be happy about it lol
Because she’s a legend but she’s also a normal girl idk. Obviously she has insecurities (a ton of them tbh). I don’t know why you’re so bothered by the idea that Taylor, a girl who is on record as very insecure about her body, and about her relationship track record, and who really wanted to be part of the fashion cool kids at that point, would be envious of a girl who is incredibly thin and toned, has a very stable personal life, and is a fashion cool kid.
In turn, Karlie was obviously jealous of Tay’s social skills, her popularity, and the amount of attention she generates.
Like I don’t see the controversy.
It was a toxic friendship for both, obviously.
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bisluthq · 2 years
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I agree with the jealous part, but not about karlies relationship because karlies relationship with Josh was always so rocky and exhausting I imagine and as her friend she probably got to see that side alot and saw how at alot of times it was bad and tiring. So why be jealous of that yk?
Because Taylor wanted badly to have a longterm boyfriend dude like she got with Calvin while friends with Karlie and shit. She defs got “you can work through stuff and it’s worth it” from her but misunderstood the assignment. Joshlie had issues but it wasn’t like… Tay’s crummy ass relationships tbh like there was something to hold onto. Of course she was fucking jealous. Not that she’d want Karlie’s man but she wanted a man she’d want to hold onto.
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bisluthq · 2 years
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Why would TAYLOR be jealous of karlie?
Body and boyfriend 🤷🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️ and fashion cred because she badly badly badly wanted to be in that crew.
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bisluthq · 2 years
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I actually she thinks about taylor ALOT and probably regretted everything she's done even more when she read those lyrics about it
I really doubt it dude because the friendship sounds like it got toxic as those burn too bright early 20s friendships SO often do. I 100% thought I’d never stop thinking about my ex bestie when we had our friendship breakup and it did hurt for years but like I literally only think about her when I talk Kaylor friendship here. It’ll pass tbh and for the two of them I think it… did.
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