Nace Countdown to Christmas - Day 16
(From this post of OTP prompts)
Loudly singing together
SOS. Chore wheel emergency.
The text from Ryan rolls in early, with no further context or information as to what this ‘emergency’ could possibly be, so Ace takes the time to stop for coffee for the group, and then makes his way to the Drew household. He’s decidedly unprepared for the sight that greets him.
Music is blaring, the air smells like lemon floor cleaner, and Ryan immediately grabs his arm to tug him into Carson’s office. “You gotta help me, man.”
“Why?”
“They’ve been like this all morning. It’s like they just decided to complete the entirety of the chore wheel today. On a Saturday.”
Ace laughs and hands Ryan his coffee. “Relax, Ryan. Sometimes you just get in the cleaning mood.”
“Never has that happened to me.”
“Well, I think we should join them.” He grins as the next song starts up, Carson and Nancy singing along at the top of their lungs.
Ace rounds the corner and Nancy immediately spots him, pointing at him as she sings. “You can dance, you can jive, having the time of your life…”
Ace responds in kind, getting near enough that Nancy can loop her kitchen towel around his neck and tug him closer. “See that girl, watch that scene, digging the dancing queen.”
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I'm watching Nancy Drew on HBO and they've mentioned BTS a few times! George's sisters are Armys and in this episode I watched (s3, ep2), they mentioned Jungkook! But the subtitles spelled his name as John Cooke lmao. Nick asked the girls if they preferred purple or blue haired Jungkook, but Nick said it was a trick question because the answer was blond. One of the girls then asked when Jungkook'd been blond, and, like, Hello? So many times. Spot the fake Army. These writers do not know their stuff. But of course they mentioned Jungkook! It's almost always Jungkook. If someone mentions only one member by name, it's his name you hear 9/10 times.
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We’re heading into the home stretch! Good news - we’re getting a 20 second trailer for the finale! Thank you to the CW18 Milwaukee for promoting Nancy Drew while corporate was busy cancelling failed imports and promoting golf.
Now, I know some folks have been spoiled *ahem* by the leaked transcript for 412. I have not and will not be partaking - I like my spoilers vague, and I prefer to watch the episode in whole with actors and sets and special effects and music and all the things. But I did spend some time this weekend thinking about what would happen next - and debating it with @likestosolvethepuzzle (whose latest fic you must read), who encouraged me to post this analysis that I primarily wrote over weekend before the transcript leaked.
So read on if you’re interested in my unspoiled take (well except for the usual BTS photos I’ve hoarded from filming, the trailers, and hints on social media from the fine professionals who made the show).
Rewinding back to Episode 8, Nancy sends Ace on his way with the curse jar to go fishing with his father. He complains, but she tells him to go make “messy” memories with Thom (clearly she’s thinking of how she wished she could have more with Kate). Thom apologizes that the captain canceled, Ace drops the jar which lights up and sets off a little wave, and they get wet but no other harm is done. Ace calls Nancy from the Marina - note the establishing shot is Horseshoe Bay, not the Yacht Club or the Claw, so he’s sitting in the parking lot of a different marina, presumably where the fishing boat is docked.
Ace and Nancy have their phone call, and we now know Nancy goes to erase a sin 26 minutes later. The only think she knows is that she saw flames before Ryan rescued her from Jonas Glass, but she believes she and Ace were responsible for Jane Doe’s death.
A few other tidbits that could be clues or red herrings - when Jane Doe was found charred beyond recognition, it was noted that it was in the woods near the coastline. When the ghost tells Ace that she stayed because he said he didn’t want to leave her, she then says no one had ever talked to her or about her that way before. The ghost is also insistent that no one ask her how she died.
OK. A few weird things. The captain canceling but Ace and Thom still going ahead is weird. Why would the captain allow it? Who’s piloting that sort of large-ish boat? And why did the jar make any kind of blip at all, and yet the wave was small enough they only got wet?
We have BTS of what appears to be Thom in the water:
And we had a video from applebanannapear (Ace’s stand-in) of a marina/boat yard with Florence parked nearby, and he’s standing next to someone who looks like she could be Nancy’s stand-in:
These to me look like scenes of the forgotten events of that night, erased by the Sin Eater.
So what I think could have gone down (speculation ahead):
What if the captain of the fishing boat didn’t cancel and was on the boat with Ace and Thom? And Jane Doe could be the captain? She could be lonely and even flirted with Ace, who we know is also lonely - they may even have a moment.
When Ace drops the curse jar, it actually flames up and breaks, and causes a much bigger commotion - maybe even a whirlpool not unlike the ghost’s whirlwind from 411. Then the boat catches on fire. They all jump or are thrown into the water. Ace is able to fish Thom out, but the captain is lost - she gets caught in the flames before drowning.
Ace and Thom eventually make it back to shore. Ace calls Nancy in a panic. She comes immediately. They fight, but Nancy insists on going to the Black Door. Ace may have dropped the curse jar, but Nancy gave it to him and pushed him to go fishing with his dad. The death was accidental but Ace feels guilty - he’s completely torn up with grief. This is the person who would rather die than let Nancy give Daniel West the list.
Thom’s part - I am less certain (and of course all of this is speculation). He’s a semi-retired cop, so he’d want to call it in. Ace would probably be charged with setting the boat on fire - he did drop the jar that caused the boat to catch on fire. Thom might have even fought with him about the jar when he finds out what Ace is doing, causing it to break.
Nancy takes matters into her own hands and goes to the Black Door - she loves Ace, and feels responsible- she won’t let him suffer. She’s miserable, doing something she never thought she’d do - but she does it for Ace. They may even have an angry almost love confession - but it falls short of triggering the curse, because the Sin Eater only erases the memories of everyone involved. It doesn’t negate the sin itself, and Ace is still alive.
And why is the ghost drawn to Ace? They actually made a connection before she died, and her charred body washed up on shore near the woods. He may have made her feel safe on that boat before the accident. He may have “caught” the curse (as many have theorized), and that’s why he can hear and see and even touch her. And her claim of her hair wrapping around her mouth, feeling cold, and the sky disappearing are consistent with burning and then drowning. And she doesn’t want Ace or Nancy to ask her how she died because it’s too painful, and perhaps because she doesn’t want Ace to suffer with the knowledge.
I believe the Drew Crew will find out what really happened in this episode - Henry Zaga posted photos and reels from Capilano Lake. I believe this is the reservoir location, and they are able to use the poisoned water to help Nancy remember the sin and reverse the memory wipe.
Speaking of Henry, Tristan is certainly back in this episode. He posted from the woods and a few locations. I was leaning toward this being him as well in director Kristin Lehman’s monitor - although it could also be Ace.
So we know from the two stills we got for this episode that we’ll see Ace and Nancy together plenty. But boy Ace does not look happy - he doesn’t want to give up his ghost I suspect. I know we all expect them to break the curse, but from Ace’s POV he and Nancy are separated forever. Cannot wait to see it all unfold (pain and all). Celine, the writer of this episode, reminded us that there will be heartbreak and there will be truth. She also shared a devastating playlist I’ve had on repeat - “Bigger Than the Whole Sky” is killing me. As much as we all want Nace together and loving, I’m expecting a journey through fire here (literally) before we get our HEA next week (cause we will).
I’m super intrigued by how Nancy and Tristan will interact - are they still romantically inclined? Or was Tristan almost biting her as the Sin Eater a mood killer? And what did Nashua mean about them walking the path many times before? Reincarnation seems to be a theme this season. @flythesail and @reviewdiaries have written excellent analyses about what it could mean.
We’ll also get a Spring Festival on the beach (which they filmed in the snow), and the return of Red and Birdie (according to IMDB). I don’t have room to post it, but one of our favorite crew members Sangalicious had an IG story at the time that referred to the festival. Geraldine Chu also posted from the snowy location - looking forward to Birdie and Jesse together again. The beach they filmed at is the same one from the bucket ceremony - is there a supernatural confrontation, or perhaps something between the believers and non-believers of the supernatural?
From the trailer, we see Nancy waking up (perhaps with her memories returning?), and the Crew recoiling in horror in the Yacht Club basement:
We also glimpsed who most of us think is Tristan confronting the figurehead of the Endeavor in the same location (yes I analyzed Henry and Alex’s cheekbones):
Are Tristan and the figurehead connected - and is Nancy too (read @flythesail’s analysis for more on that)?
Finally, I’ve been debating if the Claw baby shower Riley shared a glimpse of is actually in this episode and not the finale as we see George and Nick in the wardrobe from this (412) episode’s stills. Jen Vestuto said it’s not what we think it is - of course we all assume it’s Carson and Jean’s baby since her awkward confession. Could it be Ryan and Red’s instead? Or did she mean it wasn’t for a Nace baby? Is there something timey whimey going on since not that much time has elapsed (or has it?) and it really is in the finale? Is Jean’s unborn child a potential next Sin Eater (yikes!)? We’ll find out soon! See you on the other side.
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expanding on the last post: What The Crimson Peak Costumes Are Made Of (I Think)
Lucille:
Blood Drop Dress (red party dress)- silk taffeta
Black dress- silk-velvet bodice and overskirt, silk taffeta underskirt
Blue dress- see above
Winter coat- wool
Robe and nightgown- silk habotai/china silk with a silk moire sash (moire pattern only visible in one BTS pic I've found so far)
Deleted scene undergarments- cotton sateen corset (I hope, given the wear to it), matching silk taffeta petticoat
Edith:
Buffalo Bookworm Suit (suit for her publisher's office)- silk taffeta
Park outfit- pleated silk habotai shirtwaist, silk taffeta skirt, belt likely a celluloid faux buckle and wool braid strap in-story and resin faux buckle + synthetic braid strap IRL
Carter's Office outfit- see above, just a different shirtwaist and with a silk tie
Buffalo nightwear set- cotton nightgown under a silk-velvet robe
Ball gown- silk satin with some sort of tulle underskirt briefly visible near the beginning and end of her dance scene
Heartbreak Dress (dinner party dress)- pleated lightweight silk, possibly habotai? but heavier than the fabric of her shirtwaists
Buffalo coat- wool
mourning dress- silk taffeta (the designer claims this is her wedding gown, but bereaved brides were HEAVILY pressured to leave off mourning on their wedding days, and I can't imagine the wedding and Carter's funeral would be on the same date anyway)
Allerdale coat- wool
Briefly-seen lingerie and net dressing gown- cotton or linen combinations which later appear in the sex scene, cotton sateen corset, dressing gown of what I imagine is crocheted silk cord + silk habotai
Nancy Drew Dress (canary-yellow dress)- silk satin
Allerdale nightwear set- silk satin robe with a pleated silk habotai nightgown underneath
Allerdale cape- wool
Thomas
Pretty much all of his outfits are wool suits over silk brocade waistcoats and linen shirts. with the exception of his formal outfit for the ball and dinner party, which appears to have a cotton shirt, white vest of a material I can't quite make out, and silk bow tie
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