I analyzed Toby's music... here's the backbones to his songs, and various Toby techniques! I included ways to get started with recording your music! Read more to see 👀
Battle themes
For the music Toby uses in his battle themes, he starts with a 1-2 measure long riff. He gradually adds in more instruments, looping the original track from the intro. A simple tune you can hum to. After adding in several instruments, he adds the bridge of the song. He removes the beginning melody and lets the background music continue for a measure. Then he slows down the song and keeps one instrument. After that he adds a buildup and changes the octave, or adds harmony to the final chorus. At the very end, he adds a finale that ties the beginning to the end of the song.
Background music
For the background music during exploring, he makes the songs easily "loopable" so the beginning fades into the end. He uses orchestra sound fonts and ambient noise. During emotional short cut scenes he uses faint opera vocals as well. Don't forget the random wind whooshing sounds.
Instruments used
Undertale mostly focused on chiptune synthesizers and 8 bit sounds. Toby branched out to orchestra instruments in chapter 1 of Deltarune, and emphasized his piano skills. In chapter 2, he fell in love with the harpsichord that he'd romanced many years ago in his homestuck side gig. Thank goodness he left the weird overused synth pitch bending in his past. Good grief, that was... creative. Toby's been experimenting with brass instruments, which makes sense. Toby played trumpet in jazz band during high school. After his work on Pokémon, Toby's music has become diverse, and each song has a unique twist. Working with other artists was definitely a great step for him! Don't be afraid to reach out to other beginner musicians and collaborate!
Making music like Toby
To make music like Toby... experiment! Create a long-term relationship with the harpsichord and mash notes together until you find yourself playing them over and over, nodding your head in satisfaction. You gotta quickly record the track and tweak it later so you remember what it sounds like.
Simple ways to record music
Music professionals will K1LL me for this one. Here's some ways to begin recording music without buying that 1999$ springo bingo synth board with the doodoofart pro vst producing sound bit 2000.
Using these tips, you can record and change sound fonts! Once you record your track, you can mess around with the sound on your recording device! That's how Toby has so many instruments 👀
Look up videos on YouTube about converting music into wav and mp3 files. Toby didn't know what a wav file was when he began music production! Don't be scared of all these fancy weird words. You'll catch on! There's no shame in going on the web for help. Music production can get very complicated with random errors and shit. (I have cried over my piano before) That's what reddit is for! Frustration is inevitable. Just take a deep breath and STAY DETERMINED. Even if you can't play piano? Watch tutorials and practice! Toby is self taught and doesn't write sheet music!
If you have an electric piano keyboard, you can hook it up to a computer with a cable that's easily found on Amazon. You can also use an iPad pro, hook THAT up and record it in a program like garage band. I recommend investing in studio one 5 on your computer! If you've got studio one... get a vocaloid software bundle and mess around with piapro studio 👀 add vocals!!! There's some cheap vocaloids out there! Toby's worked with some vocaloid producers in the past! Mess around and have fun!
Get creative!
The keyboard is your playground. Toby says that simplicity is important. He mentioned this in the annotations included on the sheet music that came with the undertale collectors edition. You don't need to go overboard with advanced shit to sound professional. Some of the best songs are simple and catchy!
Toby would want you to be kind to yourself and your hands. Be patient. Music takes time! Make your own songs and follow your own path. Create your own style so when people hear your music they know it's you!
A good exercise for you fretted string players when you’re learning a song, play the melody on only one string while repeating the names of the notes out loud. Not just the fret numbers, but the note names themselves either with letter names (I.e. C#, D, E) or using solfège (di, ré, mi)
Do it on all of the strings your instrument has. It’s okay if you need to adjust the melody line to fit slightly if it exceeds the upper or lower range of the string, just make sure it sounds good. Make sure you take note of what strings the melody fits best on in that key
This helps you develop familiarity with the fretboard as well as laying out the melody in a more logical way, allowing you to see where the tonal centers are on each string in that key.
Once you’re able to do that try doing it on only two strings. Experiment with where in the melody and on the fretboard it’s convenient/comfortable to switch strings. Limiting yourself like this forces you to develop an awareness of the ways you like to finger certain sequences of notes.
If you do this for every song you learn in every key, you’ll be well on your way to being able to play anything you want anywhere on the fretboard in any key.
As easter rapidly approaches, I have a Tip for string musicians. The #1 thing I've learned as a violinist who frequently plays 2nd/lower harmony parts with organ & brass is to completely disregard any dynamics, and play fortissimo all of the time. No one will hear you if you play mezzo forte, mezzo piano, and especially piano, and it will really mess with your confidence when you're standing next to your mom who played trumpet afterward and she's getting tons of compliments and you're getting none because no one could even hear you over her and the organ. So yeah. PLAY OUT!!!! Use open/higher strings as much as possible!! Brass is LOUD, and most organ stops are meant to sound like strings, so you need to play as loud as possible to be heard. After a few times, I got the memo and just played super loudly, and got compliments after! (not as many as my mom still, but that'll happen when you have a mother who is basically a professional-level trumpet player...)
What instruments do you play and what is your musical background? (How long have you been playing said instruments etc, how did you learn them) And any tips for aspiring composers?
i play the piano (in some middling capacity LOL), and i'm currently trying to learn how to play acoustic guitar (though it is a miserably slow process!).
in terms of musical background, general musical education in school aside, i'm pretty much self-taught - i don't know much music theory, nor can i read musical notation. but i do everything by ear, so i don't really need to know all these things B)
i started dabbling in music when i gained an interest in playing around with the piano my family has in their house back in like... 2013? 2014? and then i got picked up by my late music teacher in school to play in a band of rookies around the same time, though i'm a little fuzzy on the dates.
i played in the band for some 4-5 years, improving my piano skills and learning much about the music entertainment world. in the latter years of playing in this high schooler band, i picked up composition on the side, initially starting on silly little tools like Mario Paint Composer (silly famed NES game!) and later Advanced Mario Sequencer (this was my introduction to how soundfonts worked - i cobbled together a custom one myself once!). sometime in late 2018ish to early 2019ish i migrated to FL Studio 20, and have never looked back.
as for tips for aspiring composers... i swear i must've answered this somewhere already! but i guess repetition doesn't hurt. especially since this question has been in my askbox for ages LOL
i can surmise what i've learned in two lessons:
FIND OUT WHAT WORKS BEST FOR YOU! making music is not a linear single-file process by any means. almost everyone makes music in some different method and way. even when comparing myself to fellow composers, i find that our musicmaking processes differ greatly. don't be afraid to experiment with different digital audio workstations (DAWs), or various musicmaking programs. pick one, give it a shot - if it doesn't work, well, it is what it is. unorthodox ones are just as valid as mainstream ones! hell, i started out with Mario Paint Sequencer. that program looks like this! and yet people can make masterpieces with it. if you're looking for a good sort of middle-ground DAW, your best bet is probably SoundBridge - it's free, and it follows the general rules of other DAWs such as FL Studio or Ableton. there's also a few handy starting plugin tips in a previous post here!
KEEP GOING AT IT! musicmaking and composing are not easy processes. they often take time and persistence. but what i've found when working with the Deepwoken OST is, if you keep consistently chipping away at something, you eventually get good at it. set aside a certain amount of time each week for composing, - say, 1 hour? 2 hours? 30 minutes each day? up to you. and just Cook! don't worry about the end product, don't worry about the destination. get lost in the process of making. imagine you're making music for yourself, and not any audience. that, in my opinion, is when the best music is made. and like the lithuanian saying goes, "lašas po lašo ir akmenį pratašo" - or, "drop after drop, and water cuts stone". if you find the tools you're comfortable working with, and you keep working with them, you eventually get good at using them. B)
Tip for composers: visual EQs are your friends. Specifically, using them to balance out the transients (high and low sounds you might not immediately pick up on) can really help your mix sound better.
Case in point, that WIP I posted? I opened up an EQ and found that it had A TON of sub bass from the kick drums, which is why it sounded all muddy. Reduced those low frequencies til they were even with the rest of the instruments, brought out the mids a bit for the snare, and added a tiny amount of spice to the top end, and now it sounds dramatically better.
with these simple tips, you can go from a novice to a professional almost instantly! just do any of this:
improve literally any song by adding a sax solo
make your drums faster. no like, faster
HARMONIZE MORE, THEN MORE, THEN MORE, then stop
add a second sax solo (hot)
just fuckingn like, take a knife and really fuck up your CD then record the playback of that and sample it
go into the woods at night alone with a tape recorder. sit down and press record. do not open your eyes. you'll know when the right time to stop is. the forest will tell you.
if you cant tell pitch from just sound, this website records your voice and then tells you what pitch you are singing in! It is very helpful to find notes for melodies if you are not good at reading music like i am
From what the site says, there is no way they can store your data or your recordings! So it is safe to use from what i can tell
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