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aceredshirt13 · 4 months

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We'll never get a third Ritchieverse Holmes movie. But if we somehow did, this is what I like to think should happen.

I would absolutely love for the inciting incident to be that, since the reason Holmes faked his death was because he wanted to keep Watson and Mary safe, the reason he has returned from faking his death is because that backfired and Watson and Mary are very much not. Why aren't they safe, you ask? Well, because Moran is on the revenge trail. Typically, he didn't have much personal investment in the killing of his targets, but we all saw how absolutely furious he got when Watson nearly killed Moriarty and escaped with Holmes. Now Moriarty is dead, and Moran has no job, no purpose, no one in the world - nothing, save for anger and grief. He cannot kill Holmes, because he does not know Holmes still lives. But if Holmes took the life of the only person Moran ever cared about, then even if he's not around to suffer for it, he will do the same to him.

Except, naturally, Holmes is around to suffer for it, and this cues the ending scene of the movie where Holmes coyly reveals he's alive, and would pick up right from there. There would be action! There would be shenanigans! Holy hell there would be character drama! Watson and Mary are absolutely going to beat Holmes's ass within an inch of his life, but also Watson is so, so very glad to have him back... Mary's not forgiving him ever for what he put Watson through, but how can she - how can they - bring themselves to be fully angry when he went through this to the end in an attempt to ensure their happiness? Especially when, if one considers the reason he closed his eyes to be for Watson to be the last thing he saw if he died, Holmes wasn't even completely sure he'd successfully fake his death... And they can't just unpack that while sitting in a house somewhere talking about their feelings, because Moran and the remnants of Moriarty's wide-reaching organization are very hot on their heels.

How does the movie progress? Well, I'm not entirely sure. I would love for Moran to get betrayed by those he conspired with, and be forced to work with Holmes and Watson (and Mary, who is adamantly refusing to let these two do all this on their own when her life is as endangered as theirs) on some level, thus forcing everybody - including Moran - to actually talk to each other. I also want to show that Holmes is beginning to get tired of all this - he loves the adrenaline, he loves to exercise his genius, he hates being bored, but he's also tired of the people he cares about constantly being in danger because he knows he can't always protect them. He knows that, because of what happened to Irene.

How does the movie end? Well, I can certainly tell you that. As a significant portion of the fanbase and Jude Law himself will tell you, the Ritchieverse Holmes movies come off very, very strongly as romances. In most cases, I am not the sort of person who advocates for any given ship in a medium to be acknowledged as canon just because a lot of fans like it, especially since that can often lead to disastrous results... but Christ alive, these movies are leaning so ridiculously hard into Holmeswatson vibes that I can't imagine it was an accident. And, well, part of the reason I want Moran to figure so heavily into this movie is because I think there was quite a bit of potential exploration of what exactly his relationship was with Moriarty just in the few tidbits you saw of them together... perhaps through a few flashbacks sprinkled in after Moran confesses what they really were to each other. Because if there's one thing I love, it's parallels. Watson and Moran, the military veterans and crack shots who are so very attached to the often-difficult genius masterminds they love. Unlike the singly-devoted Moran, Watson's affections are torn, because he adores Mary with everything he is, and is constantly fighting himself and pretending he can give up Holmes for her even though he can't imagine a life without both of them in it - but he is no less devoted for it. In different ways, they both cannot see a way forward - Moran cannot without Moriarty, Watson cannot because he cannot choose. So, in terms of an ending, I want Moran not to have to be killed by our heroes, or die in some sacrifice, or take his own life. I want him to have to live, without taking revenge. To figure out some kind of life, now that he's been spit out by the Queen's Army, and has lost the new life he was given now. It's more interesting, and less cheap, especially if this movie serves to build up and add depth to his character. And as for Holmes and Watson, well, it's not 2009 or 2011 anymore, so what's to stop your loose action movie adaptation of century-old, now-public domain stories from just going ahead and having them admit they love each other? (Or, potentially, having Mary admit it for them, to one of them, because she is sick and tired of their bullshit?) Why not let them, after all this is over, finally, finally share a kiss?

And as for the epilogue, I think it would be super fun and endearing if it cuts to Watson and Mary finally moving into that country house in Sussex together. He and Mary love each other, they're happy, they'll do so very all right. Then they get a knock on the door to find that the old woman who lives in the house next door has come to bring them a housewarming gift.

Except it's not an old woman. It's Sherlock Holmes dressed as an old woman. He has gone into early retirement to keep bees, and he just so happens, by pure coincidence, to have bought the house next to theirs.

Watson and Mary are exasperated. Then they probably think it's really funny, while still being exasperated. And ultimately, what Watson needs to realize is that there is something in this world that is insistent upon keeping these three together. If all of them can put up with each other - as they have shown they can just manage to do, this whole movie - and if all of them care for each other - as they have shown they undoubtedly do, for this whole movie - then no matter what he was sure was the "correct" and "right" thing to do before, he does not, and has never had to choose. Holmes doesn't have to steal him away from Mary any more than Mary has to steal him away from Holmes, because the great lesson of the Ritchieverse Sherlock Holmes movies ought to be that sometimes, polyamory is the best solution. And they all live in Sussex together, and quibble incessantly, and remain there for the rest of their days.

P. S. The number one thing this movie is absolutely, positively not allowed to do is kill off Mary. I don't care if she dies offscreen in the books, these movies did not have so much of their character conflict be Watson's inability to choose between her and Holmes for that to conclude with the immensely cheap act of offing her - not to mention that that would mean killing the only remaining major female character left in the series, and that these movies are so far removed from the ACD canon anyway that they can literally do whatever they want.

P. P. S. I don't have anywhere else to put these since I'll certainly never finish an entire screenplay concept for this without help, so here are a few disconnected, inaccurate-screenplay-format snippets using this idea that I jotted down on my phone way, way, back. Enjoy?

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Opening shot: pigeons.

It’s early morning, and a man sits on a bench with a small bag of birdseed. He takes a handful of it, and reaches out to them. They flock around him with enthusiasm, some perching on his arm and hand.

The pigeons know him, clearly. It is SEBASTIAN MORAN.

He turns to look over his shoulder.

Moran: Hey, Professor, do you -

He stops. There is no one beside him.

Something hardens in his face.

He continues sprinkling birdseed. But his movements are listless, and it is clear the act no longer brings him much joy.

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Holmes: It appears that Moriarty’s death, while ultimately a public service to the human race, has unleashed a far greater and more unpredictable danger to you than I could have imagined.

Watson: A danger?

Holmes: Indeed. And so long as I was believed to be dead, I was sure you and Mary would be entirely safe from it.

Watson: What - ?

Holmes: But I am now very much aware that that isn’t so, and so I have returned.

Watson: What danger, Holmes?

Holmes: Sebastian Moran.

Watson: Sebastian Mor- What, Moriarty’s right-hand man?

Holmes: The very same.

Watson: But why would he come after us? His superior is dead, he hasn’t got any orders -

Holmes: This has absolutely nothing to do with orders, Watson, and everything to do with the precarious and emotional nature of the human condition.

Watson: For the love of God, Holmes, can you just explain -

Holmes: I mean to say that this is entirely personal. Moran did not just work for Moriarty, he cared for him. Though to what extent, I haven’t the slightest idea.

Watson: For Moriarty?

(A disbelieving chuckle.)

Watson: Delusional bastard. I can’t imagine Moriarty cared for a soul in the world.

Holmes: And he may not have. How fallible man is, hm?

Holmes: Nevertheless, I believe that the colonel is seeking revenge. And if he cannot get it on me, then he will not stop until he has slain everyone I have ever cared for.

Holmes: Thus, my return from the grave. But I’ve already said that, haven’t I?

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Holmes: No. No more deaths. No more lives lost because of me.

Holmes: …Not after Irene.

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Moran: You should have died like the dog you are.

Holmes: Perhaps I would have, if I hadn’t known that Moriarty’s dog still lived.

Holmes: I had - foolishly, perhaps - thought that were I to die, Watson and Mary would be safe. A life for a life - my life, for Moriarty’s. No more.

Holmes: But you weren’t content with that. Were you?

Holmes: You wouldn’t stop until you’d killed everyone that meant something to me, even though I wasn’t there to see it.

Holmes: What will you do, if you succeed? What will you have left? It’s not as if revenge will bring him back.

Moran: You’d do the same if you lost your bloody Watson, wouldn’t you?

(Holmes is, rarely, silent.)

Moran: …And I don’t know how to do anything else.

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Moran: …You’re wrong.

Moran: Nobody was kind to me. Not until I met the professor.

Holmes: But of course. It behooves a smart man to take good care of his tools -

Moran: You don’t know anything! It was real, what we had!

Moran: …It was real. I know it was. Because he told me that he didn’t even want to like me, at first, let alone…

(He trails off, as if thinking better of it. But then he shakes his head with a bitter chuckle.)

Moran: …What’s the point? I’ll hang for all the murders I’ve done. Another felony won’t mean much.

Moran: I loved him. And you’re the reason he’s dead. So I’ll kill everyone you love, and then I’ll kill you, or I’ll die trying.

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Okay, that's it. If for some reason you read this far, thanks for sticking around! And if you have any personal thoughts on a third Ritchieverse Holmes movie, I'd absolutely love to hear them. See ya!

#rdj holmes #ritchie holmes #sherlock holmes #john watson #mary watson #sebastian moran #james moriarty #holmeswatson #holmeswatsonmary #moraniarty #and well i suppose i should tag this the almighty #johnlock #i honestly think all my screenplayish tidbits are waaaaaay too on the nose lmao #but i didn't want them to sit on my phone forever #but man is this a movie i'd love to work on if it somehow existed #even though there's no way it could given how much older all the actors are #i've seen and heard about numerous continuation concepts #but i always thought it a shame that they left out the fact that moran is still alive and kicking #and the fact that moran clearly cared about moriarty is such fun and barely explored territory in the movie #and appeared in none of the continuations that i could see #(sure it's entirely possible to interpret it that moriarty was just using that care)#(but i think that's boring)#(much more interesting to have your ruthless terrifying criminal mastermind villain be capable of genuine care)#(after all he canonically cares for those pigeons doesn't he?)

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whitenoface · 1 year

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Louis:

Also Albert and Wiliam: 🥹 our baby brother 🥰😊❤️ who can do no wrong 😌😇 the ✨ 𝓁𝒾𝑔𝒽𝓉 ✨ to our darkness 💕

#louis james moriarty #albert james moriarty #william james moriarty #yuukoku no moriarty #moriarty the patriot #they really are older brothers lol #when william said he’s untainted #and in the next scene louis stabs a man and burns him alive 💀#im rolling

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visageofstars · 10 days

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My favorite character is Jim Moriarty. My King, performed by Andrew Scott. I associated myself with Sherlock Holmes for many years until I rewatched BBC's Sherlock and took a closer look at Professor Moriarty. I love listening to Stayin' Alive on the way to the university for classes, and for you, some time ago, I prepared an edit on YouTube (you know how to find me).

#decor #literature #painting #vintage #music #jim moriarty #andrew scott #sherlock #bbc sherlock #professor moriarty #stayin alive #character #my favorite

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consult-sherlockholmes · 1 year

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You're still alive? 😬

-JM

Well after all, I am staying alive.

#Staying alive #Rp #Roleplay #sherlock roleplay #sherlock rp #Jm #jim moriarty #Moriarty #Bee gees #stayin alive

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random-bakwaas · 7 months

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never getting over the fact that jim moriarty's ring tone was stayin' alive

#it's such a him thing i'm obsessed #stayin alive #jim moriarty #bbc sherlock #sherlock

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bloomxng-per4wxnkle · 1 year

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Chapter 76

#HII I AM ALIVE #look at Louis in the new chapter 😭😭#yuukuko no moriarty #moriarty the patriot #yuumori #louis james moriarty #manga coloring

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ragnarachael · 1 year

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dear GOD, ragnarachael isn’t DEAD?

wow, hi team. how have we all been? well? better than me, i hope? well, this is your update post on me since i’ve really been MIA here since, what?? september when someone stole my kinktober writing?

content warnings for things under the cut, because i’m not an asshole and am warning you about how life has been: parental death (again baybee!), shit mental health vibes is generally what this is, and mentions about america being a fucking shithole <3

since june 2022, i was in this...funk. all the abortion bans, my job not turning out how i expected it to, more shit about america going batshit crazy and turning upside down, my dad LITERALLY commenting on my weight very often.

it just. wasn’t good for me as a fucking person, and i needed to step the hell off of stuff and things. i also felt like if i kept posting here, you’d all be angry that i’m not writing fanfiction AND SO, i existed on my queen blog until that fixation died off slowly and weaned into the gvf fandom (so shocking, i know)

BUT ANYWAY, here we are. 2023, and i’m actually in worse fucking condition than i was literally in september.

the good: got a new, better paying job and started march! i love it there, i can dye my hair and have fun piercings! i got a small tattoo when i saw family in december! finally saw greta van fleet live in march and am seeing them again in july!

the really fucking bad: my dad passed away yesterday morning.

yeaaaaah. fun, yes yes.

as we’re aware, not my first rodeo, lost my mom 4 years ago (as of the 4th), so how poetic he kicks it two days after her. CLEARLY this means i’ve gotta figure out my whole life situation now that it’s just me, my cat, and my turtle. of course, this is only the first 24-48 hours, this week is going to get more and more shit probably by the hour.

but now that i feel comfortable posting on here for the moment, this means exactly what you’re expecting me, a fanfiction writer who you for some reason all really enjoy reading from: i am going to be going on a hiatus. don’t know how long, i just know that yeah, no, i am.

i consider this blog, ragnarachael, my general blog for fanfiction. it’s where i’ve posted all of my writing on this site for the forever i’ve been here, and i plan on kinda keeping it that way. unless i start posting gvf fic, then, well. you can find me over on the blog i’ve been camping out in since like a few months ago, @celestialsolstice. i’ll either post any and all gvf fanfic there OR on my AO3 account, if anyone is magically interested in that.

i’ll be chilling out on here for the rest of the evening maybe if anyone sends in an ask, ANSWER, asks i’ve received and kinda revamp my blog, because while i love eddie..that fixation has passed on <3

SOOOOO tdlr: rachael’s life is back to how it was in 2019 and she’s not gonna write/post any fanfiction for a hot good long minute because she needs to now get her shit together.

if you’ve read this long into the post, thanks! it’s appreciated! and sorry (but not sorry) for explaining myself sooner. i know i owe none of you literally anything, but i do feel bad for just Ghosting. if you wanna follow me, chat around, enjoy my shitposting ways and suffer with my gvf content, seriously follow @celestialsolstice because that’s the blog i am, like, literally always logged in on nowadays.

anywhosies. gonna go make the blog look pretty! i’ll be here if you wanna scream and shout at me!

#rachael that's so personal of u #SHOCKING NEWS! RAGNARACHAEL FOUND ALIVE!#(not her father tho)#(sorry i had to make the joke)#anyway! hi besties i've missed the vibes here dearly and i hope you all are happy to hear some communication from me #i know i've been like. radio silent and well my mental health never got over half the shit i was feeling with this blog so #ya <3 #damn i shoulda pulled a moriarty from sherlock #did u miss me???? (literally do not feed my ego)

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lenofiga · 2 years

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I wish they'd add Kadoc to My Room. I want him to react to all these Servants we summoned, tell us his likes and dislikes, give us magecraft lessons & tips, have dedicated voice lines for each Crypter (other than what he mentioned in Traum), call us out on our bullshit. The possibilities are endless

#it's been a week let me post this #my boy is alive #MY BOY IS ALIVE!!!!!#even moriarty lily has a line for him lasagna please

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luna06newman · 2 months

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Moriarty is Staying Alive on tumblr 🕺🪩

#sherlock holmes #bbc sherlock #i am sherlocked #jim moriarty #james moriarty #professor moriarty #andrew scott #staying alive

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lilies-are-azules · 1 year

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I want to know more about the man that took care the Moriathree after the fire, had a very skilled veteran as a butler, AND somehow convinced Albert James Moriarty to have a tea party in the Moriarty house.

I refuse to believe Lord Rockwell is just some random dude, especially after the last point.

#yuukoku no moriarty #yuumori #he must be at least a decent man #I mean he is still alive so...#but seriously im so curious about lord Rockwell

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davishater · 4 months

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Breakfast head canons with the Moriarty family to give me a break from a story I'm writing that I've planned to be 4,000 words!

I've thought about this, and the Moriarty's are rich so I feel like most of them would have a more balanced breakfast than everyone else across London. I found a picture that lists a lot of the more popular breakfast options for Britain and I labeled who I think would eat what.

I think Milo would like to start off the day doing the same exact things everyday, so he'd only ever eat one thing.

Eli would eat anything that he can mix a lot of different foods together.

Teo would eat anything he can turn into a sandwich.

Winter would eat anything that's light, but filling.

Alice would eat anything that has toast, pastries or anything that fits the "popular school girl" breakfast aesthetic.

The Moriarty's have a specific time of when they're supposed to get up and go to breakfast, but not all of them show up on time.

Milo

Wakes up early and does paperwork, or reads before breakfast is ready.

Always shows up to breakfast first.

Shows up as soon as breakfast is being set on the table.

Shows up to breakfast fully dressed and ready for the day.

Doesn't reply when Eli greats him.

Doesn't necessarily care about the taste of his food. In fact, he doesn't care for eating, he only does it to keep up his strength. As long as his food isn't burnt and it gives him the strength he needs to get through the day, he's satisfied. He only ever cares about how his tea is made.

Always silent during breakfast, unless he announces a meeting for later in the day (never waits for Winter to show up whenever he announces a meeting).

Eats everything off his plate.

Usually finishes eating shortly after Teo, if Teo and Winter aren't fighting.

Eli

Usually shows up a few minutes late to breakfast.

Greats everyone when he sees them.

Works out before breakfast.

Usually shows up fully dressed, but sometimes he shows up in clothes he works out in.

His siblings always complain when he shows up to breakfast without showering (especially Winter, cause the smell immediately gets her to wake up).

Biggest eater of the family and always enjoys his meal time.

Also eats everything off his plate.

Usually stays at the table until everyone is finished eating, unless he's busy that day, then he leaves the table after Milo.

Teo

Usually shows up right before Eli. Sometimes walks in the dining hall with him.

Most of the time, shows up to breakfast fully dressed, but his hair is usually a mess.

Wakes up early enough to take a shower before breakfast, so his hair is usually wet and messy.

Tends to fight with Winter, or make a snarky comment when Winter shows up late.

Usually eats everything off his plate, but occasionally can leave a few bites of his meal.

Usually excuses himself from breakfast first, if he doesn't fight with Winter.

Winter

Always shows up to breakfast late.

Usually shows up to breakfast when Teo and Milo are finishing their food, or when they're already gone.

Almost every morning, she shows up half asleep and wearing whatever she slept in.

Grunts as a reply when Eli greats her.

Usually ignores Teo when he makes a snarky comment about her always being late to breakfast, but fights back whenever he's picking a fight with her.

When she's younger, she doesn't usually finish her food, but as she gets older, she eats more and more, so she doesn't leave as much food on her plate.

Smallest eater in the family.

Always the last one to leave the table.

Tends to go back to sleep after breakfast and everyone has to pitch in to find her, cause she finds a new place to sleep everyday.

Alice

Younger

Shows up with Winter while hanging onto her arm.

Usually shows up in a nightgown cause she only had time to wake up Winter, who's a very heavy sleeper.

Cheerful in the morning.

Happily greats Eli back.

Usually eats whatever Winter is eating.

Eli encourages her to eat all her food, so she tends to eat a little more than Winter.

Eats all of her food.

Leaves the table whenever Winter does.

Older

She shows up by herself and shortly after Milo.

Most of the time, shows up fully dressed, but sometimes shows up in pajamas cause she didn't feel like changing clothes, yet.

Says, "Morning" more naturally whenever Eli greats her.

Quieter in the morning, but speaks when spoken to. Also speaks when there's something important going on.

Usually eats something different than what Winter is eating and more to her liking.

More picky with her food and doesn't always finish, but still ends up eating more than Winter.

Always leaves the table way before Winter. Sometimes finishes her food before Teo and Milo.

Masterlist

#ron kamonohashi deranged detective #deranged detective #ron kamonohashi forbidden reasoning #ron kamonohashi forbidden deductions #milo moriarty #eli moriarty #teo moriarty #winter moriarty #alice moriarty #moriarty family head canons #this is like if they all were still alive #and if the crazy drama that's been happening isn't there #deranged detective spoilers #ron kamonohashi deranged detective spoilers #ron kamonohash forbidden reasoning spoilers

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