#more kink discourse

[serialunaliver]

literally super off topic but I think more people (especially young people) should know an actual sugar daddy relationship is part of a kink and not some sort of generosity you get lucky with. it's really just dom/sub but with capitalism. if you're only into it for the money you might end up disappointed when you learn about the other expectations lmao

#one of the more funny kinks to me because it wouldn't exist in this specific scenario without capitalism #new discourse 'what is the communist sugar daddy relationship'

[cosmileech]

Thoughts on proshippers who *are* lolicons?

I have no issues with them! As long as your strictly anti-contact and genuinely put in effort to keep kids out of your spaces, your A-OK in my book.

I also understand that loli stuff can really help paraphiles with their urges as well as CSA victims, so as long as you find genuine relief in it, your cool with me. Its just not my taste.

#i see lolicon as like a kink preference more than a moral debate tbh #proship #proshipping #pro fiction #tw loli mention #tw lolicon #ship discourse

[messiahzzz]

Not sure who made you Gale's Sole Interpretor, but could you fucking chill with CALLING PEOPLE ABUSERS over what smut they write with him? -.- Thanks.

it genuinely took me a while to figure out what you could possibly be referring to, since i didn’t talk about smut fanfiction & abuse anywhere on my socials. i presume it’s this post, yes?

gale’s sexual preferences & kinks

which i started off with:

note: this is merely my read on gale’s sexual preferences/kinks. i don’t want to police anyone on their headcanons or claim they are “incorrect”. since the game doesn’t provide too much detail, many things remain up to interpretation. (and lest we forget fanfiction has always encouraged the exploration of dynamics that may not be present in canon.)

this is the part of my post that addressed dubcon within the game’s writing, not fanfiction:

gale is also not a voyeur, nor a cuck. the entire scene with the drow twins leans way too much into dub-con territory for my tastes. the only way you can get him to participate at all is by rolling a persuasion check with DC 25. in every other dialogue option, he immediately (and explicitly) declines. even if you do manage to pass the persuasion check, he is still very hesitant about participating.

here i talked about the parallels to common abuser rhetoric (i.e. “you just have to try it, you might be into it” after already being told no.):

i am aware that fandom uses the fact that his “orb lit up in telltale excitement” as a justification that persuading him was the right choice, as well as confirmation that he was secretly into it and “just needed a little push" to explore his desires/get out of his comfort zone. that implication alone is very suspect and goes straight into the sort of logic abusers often use. you can be physically aroused by certain scenes, images, or sounds, even while being visibly uncomfortable with the presented scenario. it is a natural response that you can’t often control. which is what he is showing throughout the entire scene: discomfort. he was coerced into this situation, without any prior discussion or an opportunity to talk about his boundaries.

in fact, the devnotes (as well as the patch 6 notes) even explicitly stated that gale is very uncomfortable with this entire scenario. this is nothing new:

gale: "ahem. i hope you're not here to ask about our recent, erm, activities. i'd rather those were consigned to the footnotes out of romance, if it's all the same with you." nodecontext: clears throat awkwardly at the start. the first time you've spoken since having a threesome.

improved player attitudes in the dialogue options when gale expresses discomfort at the drow twins' four-way proposal and removed the persuasion roll.

yet again, what i was addressing in said post is the writing within the game and the interpretations of the game canon — this is not about fandom exploring the smut aspect of this scene in fanfiction. i didn't mention anything along those lines once.

how you choose to examine this scene within the confines of your own writing is solely personal/another matter entirely. as long as you practice common courtesy and tag your work with the according trigger warnings so people can avoid your content/they're not exposed to it without their consent: it’s all good.

#there is a strict difference between: ‘this is how it happened in canon because it conveniently aligns with my kinks’ #& ‘this aspect is intriguing to me so i’d like to explore it more in my own writing’ #on that note: there is nothing wrong with addressing abuse in your own writing either. you do you #just tag your work #dubcon mention #abuse mention #coercion tw #asks #it speaks #fandom discourse #gale dekarios

[kidfur]

ok yea i need to put pro kink back in my pinned.. its a pain i even need to but anti kink people following me is annoying LOL

#wishy speaks #its like #u would Hate me if i was more open abt certain things #and i know i cant expect all my followers to be people id get along with but itd be nice to not suddenly get a dm saying like #hey i cant trust you to not be a complete fucking freak anymore. bye #actually happened when i changed my url btw #like cool man. i do not care #just unfollow and block quietly go away!! #sheesh #ok rant ova #actually adding more tags #i kinda forget sometimes that not everyone is based #far from it actually. on this hellsite #like i step outside of my mutual circle and WOW i cannot stand literally any of you people! #and i Hate saying discourse words i hate shipping discourse especially #but i am ok with saying pro kink. bc kink comes with the whole risk aware consenting adults assumption #and anyone trying to imply kink is anything But risk aware consenting adults is in bad faith #still..annoying that i even have to #tumblr users have a little faith in other people's autonomy challenge? #and yes i Am hoping the person i just blocked sees this. i can be a petty little bitch as a treat. i have a headache i am allowed a treat

[aropride]

that post has actually shifted my perception of stupid fucking PrObLeMaTiC MeDiA discourse forever i think i need to chew on the topic for like 8 hours and decide how i feel about it then

#text #i also hate the term 'problematic media' like just say what youre talking about man. is it undernegotiated kink is it racism is it just #outdated terminology SAY WHAT YIURE ACTUALLY TALKIGN ABOUT OR IM BLOWING THIS WHOLE BUILDING UP #also its such an annoying conversation bc theres so much nuance and grey area but you cant get into it without the most annoying people in #the world getting mad at you from literally every side. also when it comes specifically to fandom/ship discourse the terminology is so #unhelpful vague and annoying that it makes me want to slam my head into a brick WALL. i have a whole like. giant post abt this in my #drafts but its like not even halfway done and already 2k words so its more 'rumination' than 'helpful' probably #ugh. anyway. tldr im chewing on this framework later

[writhe]

i really so intensely do not understand the ~ anti kink discourse ~

#i don’t really engage with internet discourse that much anymore but i’ve been seeing tips of this ice berg and it’s so wild hahaha #i always think it’d be fun to write about kink stuff but more as like a zine project #than claiming to be an educator or authority #as a hobbyist. perhaps. nothing against people dedicated to educating / sharing resources tho #but anyway are you ever hanging out and someone suddenly just has an extremely online take you know they read on like twitter or heard on #ticktock or sometning? (tiktok?) but it’s obviously like. not nuanced and it’s just like. a LITTLE weird #and it’s a weird IRL glimpse into some internet hole you haven’t crawled into #i’ve been seeing more stuff on here and i’m wondering if it’ll breach into real life #anyway i think all the seemingly reactionary takes against kink are just like. so bad they’re funny but i’ve also seen very little

[apostate-in-an-alcove]

Saw a pretty odd take on TikTok regarding abuse in the Catholic Church and priest kink. Essentially there's rhetoric that hierophilia/priest kink/religious fetishes etc. contribute to the abuse and harm that the Catholic Church causes and that people with aforementioned fetishes/kinks are guilty of perpetuating harmful narratives.

A lot of people with religious kinks and fetishes are often victims of religious abuse and maltreatment and the idea that, somehow, they themselves are contributing to the systemic abuse in the Church because they get off to kinky roleplay or enjoy smutty religious media is a ridiculous thought. It follows similar logic of blaming victims of sexual assault with rape fantasies of upholding rape culture and normalizing assault.

People are allowed to dislike religion being fetishized and integrated into kink but the fault of abuse in the Catholic Church lies solely on the Catholic Church and its centuries old culture of clericalism and secrecy. An individual finding religious people, items, rituals, etc. sexy in no way has the same institutional power to abuse and harm others the way the Catholic Church and clergy do.

#like mfer I AM someone whose been harmed by the church #i AM a victim of the church. the church FAILED me #i am well aware of the immense social power that priests wield you dumb motherfucker #yall will blame literally anyone but the catholic church #kink discourse #kink discussion #pro kink #trauma based kink #whatever #call me a cumbrain call me what you will #but this was such a bizarre take that clearly stems from weird anti sex and anti kink rhetoric #i don't hear horrific stories of abuse and immediately want to get off on it you fucking morons #kink does not exist in a vacuum true but people are more than capable of separating their kinks from real life

[a-polite-melody]

Uhm, I better not catch anyone at pride wearing a wedding ring or being pregnant. You’re forcing other people to be part of your scene and your sex lives you gross freaks!

This is how you fuckers sound when you talk about the mere existence and/or presence of a leather harness, or flogger, or other form of kink gear being inappropriate by nature. In its very existence. A wedding ring (consummation laws) and a pregnancy are much more symbols of fucking or having fucked than kink gear — goth, punk, and alternative culture often accessorize with kink gear that they may not ever use in the bedroom, for example. If someone simply wearing something or appearing in a way that makes you think that they’re sexual beings should exclude you from pride, let’s apply it evenly, hm?

#my post #kink discourse #pride discourse #I made this post because of that sausage dog in a leather daddy outfit post #having someone in the notes who replied to the question #of if you would ban HIM (the dog) from pride #that yes they would because it’s forcing people to watch a scene #and like… I’m sorry what the fuck??? #do you think people dressing their dogs up are engaging in sex acts with their dogs????? #if you legit think that then that’s the problem I think you should be more focused on #but also it’s a fucking costume #it says nothing #it is not a scene

[haupkmn]

There are a group of people on this stupid fucking website that I DESPERATELY need to grab them by the shoulders and explain that a white uwu smol bean tiktok mushroom frog strawberry cow Shieth fan didn't throw the first brick at stonewall and pride discourse is more or less harmful than you think.

It's all fun and games calling a fictional character a fruit but I promise you that if you go to a gay bar and call any man that you are getting a swift punch to the face and people knowing you don't talk to people outside of high school GSA or the newest anime discord server.

It's also important that those posts that are like "wait until people find out people at gay clubs aren't having discussions about what ships are valid but fucking hard and doing ket" are VERY true but that most queer people are trying to stay together and making every "gay" thing cutesy and sanitized is not helping in the slightest.

#malasada break! #discourse #kink at pride #lgbt #ship discourse #not pokemon #okay to reblog #there's more I want to say but it is 2 in the morning and I have work tomorrow and I am very tired

[losergendered]

what does pro-para mean?

means that you support/dont stigmatize people who experience paraphilic attraction (any attraction deemed outside of the norm. this ranges from things like the big three to things like foot fetishes to things like latex. its a huge huge huge huge range). many of these types of attractions are disordered.

#assuming this is a genuine question btw and not a 'gotcha' where you try to get me to say that i support something that i dont #basically its a broad (imo flawed but its the psych system so obvs its flawed) category #that includes pretty standard fetishes/kinks more niche fetishes/kinks and then paraphilic disorders as well #which. AGAIN. not the fault of the person who has the paraphilia #in fact most are completely harmless. like people always think of the big three but like. it literally just means 'abnormal attraction' #anyway DONT drag me into para discourse. most of the time the discourse is just anti-sex or anti-mad #or its people trying to argue that minors can consent (they cant) #IN ANY CASE sorry im codifying this so much i just dont want people putting words in my mouth #ask to tag #asks #discourse #?

[hopefulbuthelpless]

it is 2024 and people are still putting kink at pride discourse on my dash????? are yall not tired because im tired. if you put that shit on my dashboard i will unfollow you and i dont care which 'side' youre arguing its all so dumb and pointless amen

#like i go outside so i dont actually care. none of this is a real problem. #ooooh puritanism oooooh everything is so child friendly now are you seriously telling me queer kids have more options for community events #than adults. like is that actually your argument. be so serious #also. yall need to learn what logical fallacies are. i see people literally using the words slippery slope to argue. yall are NOT REAL #also also it is not my fault conservatives are homophobic. nobody who's arguing abt kink at pride is a conservative lawmaker. on either sid #legitimately kinda annoying as shit to see people saying "look this may not bother you but it bothers me' being told oh so youre a fascist. #youre a christian fascist conservative trying to appeal to the cishets. #thats fucking awful as shit! like can you try for just a second to actually understand the words someone is saying #anyway the people arguing FOR kink at pride are honestly far more annoying god bless #i dont even necessarily disagree but i Would punch you if you were talking w me irl kinda behaviour #all this to say. im done w this discourse. its pointless and im tiredddd are yall not tired #say it with me: capitalism is not the fault of the kids!!! corporatization and sanitization of queer identities is not the fault of kids!!! #if youre mad at walmart be mad at walmart not the teenagers theyre marketing to.

[worldsquietestjojosfan]

there are 2 roommates

"is that incest? yuck. well actually theyre only half brothers so its less yuck and more hot. btw did you watch that dog-fucking anime? its so weird who let this exist. i watched the entire thing. its not bad if you ignore the dog. you should watch it"

"you watch anime too? beware of pixiv. i heard theres anime csem on it. "

#and then theres me who is the third roommate #im not allowed to judge anything ive seen everything #the three of us are in like 3 different stages of otaku #im at the top. seen it all and im not even gonna pretend to be disgusted. yeah its there. yeah im a freak. chilling #then is roommate 1. she reads the same stuff in danmei but pretends to find it weird in anime #and then is roommate 2. shes not even talking about l*lis. shes straight up misidentifying all anime women #im definitely more vanilla that roommate 1. shes still in her denial phase tho #speaking of l*lis have you ever seen twitter people get into fights about what is a l*li? its really funny. i mean the l*licons #actually wait im also confused. is l*li a relative aesthetic or a concrete aesthetic? #like if i draw in a more cute style and i draw one girl even cuter are they all l*lis or is only that one a l*li? #wait. i shouldnt make fun of that discourse. im also ??????????? #every time i try to judge i always get put back in my place #thats how i gained 90% of my interests so just gotta stop so i can stop taking Ls #“who would ever be into this kink” me. me 2 days after saying that. SHUT UP. STOP SAYING THINGS #some words #i only censored l*li because last time i remember it was a banned tag here? #i forgor #i dont live here

[tearfest]

open to: m/f/nb. plot: best friends kid, sons friend/girlfriend/boyfriend, one of her students' older siblings/parents, etc! posted with beta!

ㅤㅤ" honestly, it's totally fine! you're pretty much on my route. " she's lying, but only to be polite, which apparently makes it okay. she keeps her eyes forward, lucky to have something else to stare at other than them. " besides, i've read a dozen articles on how carpooling is good for the environment. " small talk had never been her strong suit, which is ironic considering she does it on a daily basis when parents both drop-off and pick-up their kids. " just two friends saving the environment. "

#open starter. #indie rp #indie smut rp #indie kink rp #this lowkey sucks i know </3 #˚₊· ͟͟͞͞➳❥ minseo: discourse. #i just need more things 4 her!