#moffat really like

[corallapis]

Faith is an energy, the specific emotional energy the creature needs to live. Every time the Doctor gets pally with someone, I have this overwhelming urge to notify their next of kin.

#eleventh doctor #doctor who #dwedit #dw #* #ok i love that apparently once a season moffat gives us an ep that's like. so. the doctor is a monster & really fucking hates himself <3 #the suitcase full of sweets thing + the dream lord ''the old man prefers the company of the young does he not?'' stop. stop!! #they're all children to him

[somewhere-south-of-neutral]

If I had a nickel for every time Steven Moffat gave a historically aroace male character from a legacy property a female love interest because he believes that, quote, "There would be no tension in [an aroace lead], no fun in that," despite the fact that even when he writes them those romances are the least interesting parts of the character, I would have two nickels, which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice.

#doctor who #sherlock #sherlock holmes #steven moffat #aphobia #arophobia #asexuality #aromanticism #aroace #I actually genuinely love River as a character but with the hindsight of Sherlock the stupid romance really is his mo #I would argue that even with River she is at her least interesting when she's pining after the doctor #honestly I actually like the Moffat era more than the RTD era #then again the Doctor-Rose romance was arguably more egregious than the Doctor-River romance #and the worst parts of the 12th doctor and clara were when they had romantic tension #the funniest part is that Moffat is actually really good at coding these characters as ace #but he still feels the need to shoe horn in a romance and it arguably worsens the writing #anyway; tl;dr: Steven Moffat is an otherwise good writer but he keeps letting aphobia get in the way of good writing

[spydoclovr69420]

It is my saddest take today to say that Thoschei is so deeply doomed by the plot that the closest we can get is allusions to it.

If Thoschei were to happen, if they were to become friends again, they still wouldn't be able to see each other often, or it would ruin the format of the show. If they got together it would be even worse for the ratings (likely) because if the very pretty characters are together, then self-inserts are less likely, which makes people who like that a lot less likely to watch and enjoy the show as much.

These two aren't just doomed by the plot, they're doomed by the format. Without the Doctor out there saving people, they show doesn't happen. If it's just the Doctor and the Master together, then the show is lacking a character to relate to for the viewer.

Basically, the show can never do Thoschei really because it'll break the format. BUT that doesn't mean they can't do flashbacks to when they were young and happy.

Fanfiction is a holy medium.

#thoschei #Anyway just because it can't happen doesn't mean I don't want it to #I want them to smooch and be together because they deserve to be happy #I also want the master to no longer be a tooth but yk what #Now I don't really care for moffat but he gave us TWO Thoschei kisses so I'm ok with this #one of them was even like... on purpose... from the non-touchy Doctor #mypost

[laurenfoxmakesthings]

I just learned of a specific moment in the latest Doctor Who episode (I've been too busy to keep up). And if anyone uses it to essentially go 'See! He can't be ace!' or treat it as a 'win' for queer rep like we aces aren't queer...

Folks, we can tell people are hot. We just don't find them hot to us subjectively on a personal level.

I'm not saying there can't be interpretations, I'm saying please don't use it as an excuse to erase ours.

#doctor who #new who #wild blue wonder #14th doctor #asexual #queer representation #look I was coming of age when tumblr was aphobic and moffat really didn't want the doctor interpreted as ace #fans are probably better at treating this kind of thing with respect now but sometimes not and I have this kneejerk reaction #like let's face it you still treat any sign of ace rep as 'not truly queer rep' #*cough* good omens *cough* #*cough* 13 and yaz *cough* #...for fuck's sake 'no kisses means this relationship is queer baiting' my arse #I'm going back to writing my canonically ace character in my book #david tennant

[variousqueerthings]

genuinely may have to make a tag for river song, because I know I'm a minority in the way I feel about her writing and place in the story, and I really feel so very negatively about the character as functioning to be The Most Special Of The Show and how that diminishes every other character (noticeably not created by moffat).

even the episode order of her first appearance -- library right after the doctor's daughter, yes it feels like the latest in a long list of people the doctor sees die and that's how ten's narrative tends to go, but it's only truly affecting because she is going to be more special than any of the others the doctor has witnessed the deaths of, honest, and you can tell because of the screwdriver and because she "knows the doctor's true name" which is hinted at as being only for the most important person in the doctor's life, and the most important person is not just romantic, it's the person the doctor marries Spoilers Wait And See It's All So Romantic Honest

and they're going to get married and it will be sad, promise, so feel sad now, because this is deeper -- deeper than rose, deeper than martha, deeper than donna, deeper than jack, deeper than jenny, deeper than the master, deeper than any classic companion or nu!who companion... and it's deeper because it's been stated to be deeper for some reason or other, which is the same as writing a narrative I guess

#anti river song #anti moffat #i wonder how this will feel once i get to eleven when the bulk of river song narrative happens #doctor who #dw #the most annoying thing is that i really want to like her -- i think alex kingston is funny and good at acting #genuinely river song absent of the doctor is a much more compelling character to me RIP #the measurement

[raggedy-spaceman]

I am so incredibly pissed off at all the people saying they stopped watching Doctor Who during Matt Smith or Peter Capaldi or Jodie Whittaker but now they are excited to see David Tennant back. I hate this with all my being cause I KNOW that they used David just because they needed to bring people back, and the fact that it worked drives me mad.

Poor Ncuti Gatwa, he deserved his big moment but everyone is just talking about David instead.

#doctor who #the power of the doctor #david tennant #matt smith #peter capaldi #jodie whittaker #ncuti gatwa #chris chibnall #russell t davies #steven moffat #i also kinda see it as RTD asserting his dominance over Moffat and Chibnall by saying implicitly that his doctor is the best doctor but ok #i don’t really care about that #I would like some more respect for Matt Peter and Jodie though #I’m not talking about Christopher cause he made it clear he will never come back and I respect that #mine

[doverstar]

was today years old when discovering that the eleventh doctor wears leather trousers. his trousers are made of black leather. Black leather with the ends rolled up and I. have no idea what to think-

#what do you mean he is wearing BLACK LEATHER TROUSERS #all this time I thought it was denim but I just saw his Children In Need short and? they really are? black leather? #exactly like the books and articles describe. he is wearing black leather #ON HIS LEGS #I genuinely thought oh ha! tweed old man jacket with elbow patches. cotton shirt. braces and bow tie. boots. precious man #denim trousers #BUT NO. NO. hear me. listen to me. that sideways old man babyface is wearing black leather trousers. do you know what that makes him? #COOL. do you know what that also makes him? STUPID #he's even more ridiculous than I thought he was. who does that. like the tweed and the bow tie and the elbow patches were all quirky #all eccentric and geek chic and niche and moffat and the costumers really tried to create a very OBVIOUS caricature #but it worked and it came together to look exactly how it was supposed to look okay. but. BUT. #it is all sitting on top of cleverly-disguised. barely-referred-to. blink-twice-and-you'll-miss-them- #black leather trousers. *inhale with me* matt smith in his mid-twenties dressing as a geek chic alien grandfather. IN BLACK LEATHER TROUSER #NEEEERRRRD #eleventh doctor #doctor who #doverstar's thoughts #text post #funny #read the tags #opinion piece #I guess? #eleven #11 #11th doctor #11th #dw #bbc #matt smith #steven moffat

[quantumshade]

gomez!master is by far the best one of nuwho and I will NOT hear otherwise. she feels so much like delgado!master in that her motivations are not exclusively world domination. even before her redemption arc in s10, she has a complex agenda of her own and sometimes that means her goals align with those of the doctor’s. i love seeing the master team up with companions it’s my absolute favorite thing. her dynamic with clara is absolutely fascinating and i find the “i want my friend back” motivation to be five million times more interesting than the “i want to Destroy You Forever” motivation or whatever it was that dhawan!master had going on

#don’t get me wrong i think dhawan did a fantastic job and his performance was excellent #the way he played the character lent him a lot of depth that the writing didn’t have #but the n*zi stuff really really puts me off. #simm was excellent too but he does wear me out #and like i said i get soooo tired of the I Want To Kill The Doctor For The Sake Of Killing The Doctor #some writers don’t get the difference between fun evil and real evil #the master should be fun evil #chibnall doesn’t get that and even rtd misses the mark with that in s3 imo #i hate to give moffat the dub here but . he did good with the master. i have to say #but we do owe most of it to michelle gomez #doctor who #gomez!master #delia.txt

[grandadtwelve]

the doctor and river song

moon song by phoebe bridgers

#I literally… want myself dead….. #doctorriver #no like you really don’t understand I will hate stephen moffat forever for what he did to her #what a horrible horrible way to live your life #what an awful cruel way to be loved #what a sad story #elevenriver #tenriver #doctor who #river song #eleventh doctor #tenth doctor #yowzah #mios #web weaving #kinda ? #dwedit #Spotify

[queerholmcs]

hbomberguy's thesis is Flawed. also i don't remember him ever mentioning gatiss

LITERALLY!!! he spends an hour and fifty minutes complaining about how he hates moffat like he's the only person responsible for the show and his entire beef with the show comes down to "i have only engaged with the material on a very surface-level reading and i think they're clever little detective stories and i want any adaptation of the material to be a detective procedural done as a serial with isolated episodes. how dare you call the show SHERLOCK (in all caps) and then spend the majority of the runtime showing us the characters and not the crimes. also john watson literally serves no purpose and sherlock himself is just an absolute asshole all the time, we know this because he says he's a sociopath and also here are three clips of him being a pedantic dick, i am very good at engaging with media. tsot was a stupid episode because it opens with an insanely overproduced and high-effort scene for the sake of one stupid joke about how sherlock is thoughtless about other people's lives and then most of the episode is just sherlock standing in a room talking, he's not even solving crimes." and i'm like. literally What Are You Talking About shdkshdkdhdk. did we watch the same show. i have never watched someone be so wrong about so many things with such conviction.

#i watched the second half on 2x speed waiting for there to be another Point #but no it really was just “i wanted a crime procedural serial and this was really bad at being one (because it wasn't one)” #like he almost had a point with moffat being a dick to his audience at the end there but the rest of it was in such bad faith #i'm not giving him credit shdjshdkshdkh #ANYWAY. i think that's all i'll say on that. it sure was a way to spend an evening. #and fwiw i do enjoy a lot of his other videos! this one was just like. buddy... you just missed the point from the start huh... i'm sorry...

[expectiations]

"The companions are important!

So stop constantly whining about how River should not be considered as a mere companion!"

Oh, I am thankful we got at least one mention of River during 13's era. But in that context? Like, how is Yaz on the same level as River? Companions are important, yes, but...

...but the Doctor doesn't marry their companions, dress up just for their date nights, preen before going out to meet them, consider them their queen and therefore, equal, tolerate (barely, but it's still there) their tendency towards guns and archeology (and stealing and murdering and marrying others for fun and whatnot), pop-up every time they're called, offer to rewrite time for them, engineer an entire planet just to have more time together, settle down (like actually settle down domesticity and all), and tell them their name

#Chibnall did not just try to undo a huge swath of Moffat's era #give River Song the importance she deserves!! #i really just can't when people downplay her role #like hello?? #did we all watch the same episodes fr #river song #doctor who #yowzah #doctor x river #eleventh doctor #twelfth doctor #tenth doctor #on that note i'm really disappointed with the lack of River representation #doctor who 60th anniversary #thirteenth doctor #river x doctor #i am exhasuted physically #mentally #and emotionally #but i have to go on #because who knows #this might be the year #River gets out of that horrid Library

[rapidhighway]

hey i might be controversial but im not really feeling the 12th doctor so far

#idkk idk what to thinkkk #i finished s8 today #im just nottt feeling ittt #i just think i might hate how moffat writes no matter what it is fdvxcdfdfv #i actually don't know WHAT is wrong because it's like... things i SHOULD be enjoying but im not it feels like its bad #idk idkkkk #i just feel there's something lacking and i felt the exact same way through the entire 11th doctor era #its just even worse now because i guess im tired #like im so desperate to enjoy this doctor like i did 9 and 10 and i just cant?? cant enjoy the companions and side characters as much eithe #idk man :( #i need to watch some older dw stuff and see if im idealizing the old episodes lmao #because i really want to have a fair opinion of this showww #heeeelpp ToT #i think i just dont like the writing? but i dont know enough about writing to actually say what's wrong #theres just something wrong #ouough #i still hold so much hope everyones always so excited about 12 and i was very excited and its just not ittt #ough ok byeeee #ok wait #like i think his personality is fine and stuff is fine it's just.. the stories? the way they present them? i dont knowwww #i just dont really like moffats dw i gues... #SAD

[donttouchtheneednoggle]

this just in: uplifting people just by virtue of their assigned gender at birth in the name of feminism found to be transphobic so now we're just gonna shit on those who CHOOSE to be male presenting bc it's a CHOICE right so we can tell them they're inherently inferior right guys??!!

bioessentialism found to be transphobic so we're jumping straight into gender essentialism which is totally cool as long as it's pretending to be feminism!!!!

#IM SORRY im sorry #i genuinely really enjoyed the trans rep in the first half 9/10 #then they just HAD to tue rose being trans into the plot and then do some weird steven moffat ass feminism thing #no he would not have got it if he was still a woman!! #he's the same fucking person she's standing right in front of youuu i want to scream #doctor who spoilers #rtd trued and i massively appreciate him trying and not shying away from rose's identity #but he overshot like massively #and ngl it was really bloody hurtful #mine #sorry this is probably too much im not mad they're uplifting women and very definitively including trans women in that #but they can do it without shitting on other people #negativity #vent tw #doctor who #also is rose meant to be a trans woman or nonbinary transfem? #i mean she can totally be both go girl but there seemed kinda mixed messaging #a lot of girl and woman and then at the end randomly throwing in nonbinary and neither #but again she can totally be both just seemed a bold choice for first trans character to not definitely be one or the other #but go off rose #hnngh im sorry but this just feels like the david not wesring jodies costume thing x1000 #one slap in the face after another

[gnougnouss]

Finally getting around to watching that "Sherlock is garbage and here is why video" and hearing him say that "ultimately he was just a guy" about the doctor in RTD era is a REVELATION. THAT'S where all of you get your stupid ass takes I see.

Foud the culprit. The popularity of this video has done untold damage to the dw fandom on this website istg

#doctor who #i am hate watching btw #this is making me wanna rewatch sherlock actually #stick to sherlock on ur sherlock hating video dumbass u clearly should rewatch dw #because what u think RTD era was about is not actually what RTD era was about #characters in RTD era every 2 seconds : he is like a god. So much more than us #the doctor in RTD era every two seconds : I am a god. #the narrative in RTD era every two seconds : give him godlike powers #yall mensa candidates : he really was just a guy fr. Unlike in the moffat era

[hiddenramen]

the thing about elementary is that i don't understand what precisely they wanted to do with it. it feels very much like a reaction to bbc's sherlock, which is fine, whatever, there's room for all kinds of holmes adaptations, but the choice to make them a man and a woman was so weird on like. multiple levels?

making the watson character a woman wasn't really like, revolutionary. watson is somewhat of a caretaker role and the gender swap makes it read even more so. holmes is still a british white dude. honestly it would have been better if they'd kept watson a man and made sherlock a woman, but it seems like they wanted to preserve sherlock as a lead with sex appeal to women, and even amp it up, which again is like. a choice but okay

but then on top of that, we have to contend with the johnlock problem, which is: if we make them romantic then we look homophobic, even though the show is written like they're going to be romantic. but if we don't make them get together, our show comes off as.... heterosexual queerbaiting? at that point, which is the funniest possible corner to write yourself into. and at this point we've made sherlock a sexy lead for women so they don't even get to use watson as an audience surrogate. just baffling choices

#elementary as a show is just a barrel of bad ideas that everyone let happen out of spite for steven moffat #which is fine i guess but it is funny #though in all fairness and to stave off the mob and their torches there were aspects of elementary i genuinely really liked

[variousqueerthings]

the thing is I do quite like individual stephen moffat episodes, I think they're good episodes. they get less good when you start to see patterns of writing and how he has a tendency of beating a dead horse + ongoing sexism which may be missed in one episode, but becomes very clear through repetition, but if one considers them as one-offs they're Neat bits of writing. it's when he tries to make it longform that it all falls to pieces for me and reverberates back. his lore is a mess and consequently so are his characters if one spends more than an episode or two with them.

#anti moffat #im rewatching doctor who #the measurement #we're at silence of the library and meeting river song #and she's quite a different character to who she becomes later in the show but already got some Stuff that rubs me the wrong way #i would call this moffat's issue with creating someone 'worthy' of the doctor #he talked about that before in terms of madame de pompadour #and so river song Has to become The most interesting most badass most capable most witty most knowledgeable etcetc #has to know everything about the doctor that nobody else knows + have all the same adventures as the other companions #so it's no longer their adventures with the doctor and their stories - she's shoved on top of them to be better than all of them #so none of them were worthy enough -- not compared to her. and then ofc later on she's part timelord as well to really hammer it home #unfortunately river song on the show never worked for me #she ticks every box of things i dont like about moffat's writing and it only becomes moreso as the show continues #but maybe in the audio dramas where she's got more personality -- i have been curious about it