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thetardisisnotourdivision · 11 months

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Nathalie didn't betray Adrien in Chat Blanc. Probably.

Ok right I keep seeing posts saying that Nathalie betrayed Adrien in Chat Blanc and it's bugging me. In the scene just after Adrien transforms, Nathalie doesn't immediately tell Gabriel what's going on, she looks shocked, then upset - when she does speak, she stammers (which she's never done before, this is Nathalie we're talking about here) and hesitates. She seems reluctant to tell him that Adrien is Cat Noir, and looks as though she's realised what they've done. She looks horrified. Edit: she literally looks like she's about to cry, if you look at the animation.

Then, when we next see the "past", it's Ladybug and Cat Noir fighting Hawkmoth - but Mayura isn't there. This episode was pre-Ladybug, so if Gabriel had made a Final Plan, Nathalie would definitely have been involved and Mayura would definitely have been there... But she's not. At all. She's nowhere to be found in any of the scenes. I reckon that she and Gabriel probably got into a fight after she heard him say that the Miraculous would "soon be [his]", like in Evolution, and she possibly left immediately, or stayed to look after Adrien, or possibly even did a runner and took Adrien with her. Whatever happened, she's not there and she's not fighting with him.

While she was assisting Gabriel in trying to akumatize Marinette, which was definitely cruel and unjust, this was not targeted at Adrien - Nathalie seems to have a very logical mindset without thinking about the emotional implications of things, so probably wouldn't have realised how upset Marinette and Adrien would be - to her it's just a plan, we see this numerous times throughout the series. Basically I think she would never have betrayed Adrien - even in season one it's fairly evident that she cares about him far more than Gabriel does. She and Gabriel take the reveal of Cat Noir very differently - Gabriel is triumphant whereas Nathalie looks like she's rethinking every choice she's ever made.

This has just been bugging me and as you guys will know I would happily defend Nathalie Sancoeur with my life so I decided to correct it.

#miraculous season 5 #nathalie sancoeur #adrien agreste #gabriel agreste #miraculous ladybug #chat blanc #chat noir #marinette dupain cheng #Miraculous s3

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muggle-born-princess · 2 years

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Okay, so Thomas and the show argued that Chloé only liked being a superhero for the attention, right?

And while I do believe that it was true since at first, she wanted to please her mother until Ladybug decided to give her another chance,

I believe that deep down, it was more than Chloé wanting attention.

I believe that it was Chloé wanting a true friend. Someone that could help her see the light out the end of the tunnel.

How do I know this?

Look at her reaction when she sees Pollen in "Malekdiator" and "Heroes Day- Part 1."

Also, if you recall, Chloe took pictures of Pollen on Instagram and called her cute, despite not showing up on pictures.

(Can’t find a photo of this. If anyone can find it, please link me to it and I will update it.)

Bonus! Who remembers at the end of “Queen Wasp” after Chloe is deakumatized, she looks miserable when the bee miraculous is destroyed. She knows Pollen lives in there. She believes that she’s dead now because of her.

Clearly she regrets using her for selfish desires.

Then, we finally get to “Miracle Queen” where if you look closely at Chloe, while she does snap at Pollen, it’s more out of angst and pain than legit anger.

If one knows basic psychology, one who snaps at someone who is feeling hurt, stressed, etc..,usually doesn’t mean it.

And that’s proven at the end when Chloe is expelled and kicked off the team.

She definitely looking at Pollen and trying not to cry.

Proven by these images after this.

Hell, even Pollen and Marinette look remorseful for what has happened.

In conclusion, while I do believe Chloe wanted to be Queen Bee for attention (in some aspects), I also do believe that she only wanted Pollen because she saw her as her true companion. Someone that saw the good in her and only got to know the real her because unlike Adrien and Sabrina who are only there for her when the plot says so, Pollen was her only true friend. With Adrien; it’s social status and clinginess; with Sabrina; it’s obviously abusive.

Yes while I do believe that Chloe to an extend did truly care about them both, it wasn’t a real friendship with either one of them because Chloe was never taught what true friendship was until she meant Pollen.

Without Pollen, Chloe would’ve never experience what it’s like to be a hero with Ladybug.

Without Pollen, Chloe would’ve never learned to be a better person with Ladybug.

Without Pollen, Chloe would’ve never felt like what would it be like to change for the good with Ladybug.

Pollen was Chloe’s key to her redemption.

#miraculous ladybug #chloe bourgeois #queen bee #pollen #marinette dupain cheng #Queen Wasp #Malekidiator #Heroes' Day-Part 1 #Cataylst #miraculous S2 #Miracle Queen #miraculous s3 #pro chloe bourgeois #chloe bourgeois deserves better #chloe deserves better #chloe bourgeois deserved better #Chloe deserved better

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miraculous-shitposting-jpg · 2 years

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“NOW YOURE BREAKING MORE THAN JUST MY HEART MARINETTE”

Lives in my head rent free. Now it can live in yours too

#miraculous ladybug #miraculous lb #chat blanc #cat noir #ladybug #miraculous s3

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imadethisforonereasononly · 1 year

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Out of all the close ups of people being Akumatized, Marinettes’ really stands out to me. Most of the time it seems like they’ve just got the red shading around their eyes and maybe their eye lids closed down a little but Mari seems to be genuinely angry and vengeful.

Might be because we’re so used to seeing her happy or sad, and sometimes frustrated but this really conveys some barely contained rage to me.

Credit to the animators for doing such a good job with facial expressions and the character development

#miraculoustalesofladybugandcatnoir #miraculous ladybug #akumanette #miraculous s3 #ml ladybug #marinette dupain cheng #mlb marinette

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pluto-destroy-me · 1 year

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~ Drawing my favourite character from all my favourite shows/games ~

Part 7: Félix Fathom - Miraculous Ladybug

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lilly5 · 2 years

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Gamer 2.0

#miraculous #miraculous ladybug #miraculous tales of ladybug and chat noir #miraculous fan art #ladybug #miraculous ladybug fanart #ladybug fanart #miraculous gamer 2.0 #miraculous gamer #miraculous season 3 #miraculous s3 #miraculous marinette #marinette fanart #marinette dupain cheng

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zoemlblife · 8 months

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Chat Noir - Bakerix (s3)

#chat noir #miraculous ladybug #mlb fandom #miraculous s3

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multy-the-muitiverse · 10 months

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Momentos gays em Lopipai.

Quantos anos Adrien tem?

#weredad #cat noir #miraculous s3 #miraculous #cute #ship #fluffy #furry #adrien agreste #tom dupain

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wield-the-mighty-pen · 2 years

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Now, I would never accuse “Chat Blanc” of being an underrated episode, but I do think that there are two important pieces of information that we learned from this episode that are constantly overlooked. These of course are that Adrien has underlying feelings for Marinette that he ignores and can’t make sense of, and that when Marinette was making fun of Chat Noir back in “Evillustrator”, he noticed.

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anna-scribbles · 4 months

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resolutions

#ml #miraculous #miraculous ladybug #my art #ladynoir #ladybug #chat noir #happy 2024 i offer you a comic for the first time in eons #s3 era ladynoir come back. i miss you. save me s3 era ladynoir #does this really count as not embarrassing? unclear.#i’m so sleepy. thirteen coming sometime in the next few days i promise. i just needed to draw a picture first #happy new years

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wolfhowls · 1 year

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Nuovo capitolo (in italiano)

#fanfic #miraculous ladybug #italiano #miraculous s3 #mlb

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alitherandom · 15 days

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I'm starting to think we need to collectively file a missing person's report for Echo

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mcchi-ken · 3 months

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uhm i guess this ship is sinking (get it) so i better get all of the fanart out the way huh. call it blackbonnet pt.2 christmas clearance. please pleeeeease let this post not be flagged.

also bonus: something i think about constantly